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Vaping In The News – May 5th, 2018

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Vaping In The News covers media stories on smoking, vaping, snus, heat not burn, e-cigarettes, tobacco control, public health, government regulations, policies and more.

“The largest threat to Public Health is an informed consumer.”



The Nicotine Fiend ~ E-Cigarettes and the FDA ~ E-Liquids Misleadingly Labeled or Advertised as Food Products ~ Reduced Harm Report ~ Pediatrics Journal Tries To Cover Up Errors ~ Lower Nicotine Cigarettes ~  Poison Control Centers’ Data Puts E-Cigarette Exposure Risk in Perspective ~ Vaping less harmful to lung fluids than smoking, study shows




The Nicotine Fiend

Via Lindsey Stroud!

The Nicotine Fiend


E-Cigarettes and the FDA

Without question, no one markets cigarettes or e-cigarettes more to children than Tobacco Free Kids. No one.

“From a consumer standpoint, please put your money where your mouth is so we can continue to buy from you, the responsible vendor/shop/ and manufacturer. ”
~ Albert Michael Harper.

E-Liquids Misleadingly Labeled or Advertised as Food Products

You can’t fix stupid, but the FDA will.

E-Liquids Misleadingly Labeled or Advertised as Food Products



Reduced Harm Report

I’m not sure I ever linked Planet Of The Vapes specifically in my blog  – but believe me, Mawsley is one of the best bloggers on the other side of the pond  – who is reporting on things happening on my side of the pond.

Reduced Harm Report


Survey numbers pending.


Pediatrics Journal Tries To Cover Up Errors

After Publishing Refuted Glantz Article

Pediatrics Journal Tries To Cover Up Errors After Publishing Refuted Glantz Article


Kat Timpf

(From Fox News, The Greg Gutfeld Show, National Review.)


Lower Nicotine Cigarettes

I can’t make this up. Ready? Lean in a little closer – cover your eyes if you must.
We’re talking about combustible tobacco.
 
And lastly, scientists found no evidence of adverse health effects as a result of smoking 22nd century’s very low nicotine cigarettes.” ~ Page 6
 Take the blame out of their hands? Among other things:
 
“We cannot and will not quote front run at the FDA by commenting in detail on our MRTP ongoing initiatives. Rather, we will let our MRP applications to be crisped out itself from the FDA review process.”
What the hell is “crisped out”?
I’ve covered this before where they’ll “just lower your nicotine” and here where organized crime heads LOVE this idea…here.
If you like, their transcript of the meeting is below the attribution in full.
attribute the transcript to Seeking Alpha

22nd Century Group’s (XXII) CEO Henry Sicignano on Q1 2018 Results – Earnings Call Transcript


Poison Control Centers’ Data Puts E-Cigarette Exposure Risk in Perspective

Brad Rodu.

Poison Control Centers’ Data Puts E-Cigarette Exposure Risk in Perspective


Vaping less harmful to lung fluids than smoking, study shows

I consider it my job to find things, good and bad, to keep readers who’ve been with me all this time (thank you) and to new readers consumers stumbling across my blog… informed.

I tell you about my findings – sometimes with arrogant commentary before-hand – and sometimes not. You’re welcome!

Note the date of the tweet below – by “The James”  – is from 2016. They had a tweet where there were “two” studies. Didn’t find that right away…

I sent multiple tweets about this “study” (if I remember correctly, there were two) and still haven’t recieved a response to date. Must not be important.

However, I FOUND ran across something Ohio University did…. about “vape fluids”. Not that I’m finding it on an official release by the government or any “health” groups…

“particles in e-cigarette vapor do not affect the normal functioning”

👇

Vaping less harmful to lung fluids than smoking, study shows




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Have you told the F.D.A. what you think about flavors here?

Tobacco Harm Reduction For Life

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Research:


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Your comments are NEVER filtered, always encouraged and welcome on this blog. There is definitely more to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

Vaping In The News – March 31st, 2018

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Vaping In The News covers media stories on smoking, vaping, e-cigarettes, snus, heat not burn, tobacco control, public health, government regulations, policies and more.

“The largest threat to Public Health is an informed consumer.”



FDA WANTS COMMENTS ~ E-cigarettes and the obsolescence of combustion ~ Petition ~ Topeka “Tobacco 21” Ordinance Turned Down by Judge ~ The difference between a snafu, a shitshow, and a clusterfuck ~  The Road To Criminalizing Tobacco Product Users ~ Chef Stan’s Cookbook ~  U.S. Health Groups File Suit To Expedite More Smoking ~ An Open Letter ~ Rethinks Attitude… ~ Keep Smoking We Need The Money ~ California Catastrophe ~




FDA wants comments

Comments are being accepted on the regulation of flavors….on their (in my opinion) already decided rules.

Submit yours, then have everyone in your email list do it as well. Then, have them have everyone on their email list do that as well…

Regulation of Flavors in Tobacco Products


E-cigarettes and the obsolescence of combustion

“…substantial proportions of the population wrongly believe that e-cigarettes are as dangerous as combustible cigarettes…. Unfavorable press coverage, negative campaigns by e-cigarette opponents, and lack of training of health professionals may explain this situation.”

E-cigarettes and the obsolescence of combustion


Topeka “Tobacco 21” Ordinance Turned Down by Judge

Adult choices are adult choices. I wonder why the “Tobacco 21” movement isn’t going state by state rather than each individual local city/town… 50 times rather than hundreds of times… publicity – public opinion – wasting valuable time for those opposed?

A #CrankyOldBroad whispered in my ear – if they get the towns, they can manipulate the states… and most – if not all – of these “Tobacco 21” moments are including e-cigarettes… take all the time you need with that…… Either way, Topeka said “NO“.

Topeka “Tobacco 21” Ordinance Turned Down by Judge


Petition:

Reject Proposed 75% Tax on NJ Vapor Industry – it’ll take you less than 2 minutes.

Reject Proposed 75% Tax on NJ Vapor Industry

Directly related:

Have you ever wondered WHY they wanted to classify nicotine as “tobacco”? Because smokers paid that tax, not tobacco companies. Now, not that I like smokers still paying tax, I DON’T. Not any more than liking people NOT smoking paying the tax.

However, because they can impose tobacco taxes on a NON-tobacco product like e-liquid…. (and tops, and batteries according to National Tobacco Day)

Nothing says #KeepSmokingWeNeedTheMoney, #PonziScheme and “return on investment” like bonds that “were based on assumptions that cigarette smoking declines would not exceed 4 percent annually.”

Sounds like it’s about health, eh? 👇

New Jersey to refund junk tobacco bonds for $3.2 billion of high-grade paper

Kentucky is doing the same thing.

Tobacco taxes are just part of the conversation…. We have holes in state revenue that we have to fill. How we do that is going to be how we get out of the session.”

Sounds like it’s about health, eh? 👇

Kentucky lawmakers meet privately with tobacco lobbyist as cigarette tax discussions continue


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The difference between a snafu, a shitshow, and a clusterfuck

This explains the nature of the e-cigarette fight to a “T”.

I don’t normally use “cuss” words on my blog – because it seems to me I can get my point across without them – allowing new readers to see the point and cuss themselves….

Also, this would be the first time I’ve had all out “PG” rating to a link on my blog, and because of the nature of it, I’m happy to do so.

The difference between a snafu, a shitshow, and a clusterfuck


The Road To Criminalizing Tobacco Product Users

Sounds like it’s about health, eh? 👇

The Road To Criminalizing Tobacco Product Users


Chef Stan’s Cookbook

Again…. overcooked!

Chef Stan’s Cookbook


Anti-Vaping Groups Sue the FDA to Reinstate the 2018 PMTA Deadline

Recommended reading from Jim McDonald here:

Anti-Vaping Groups Sue the FDA to Reinstate the 2018 PMTA Deadline


And Carl:

Anti-Tobacco Groups Sue FDA Over Vape Ban Timing. But Why?


U.S. Health Groups File Suit To Expedite More Smoking

Admittedly, Jim and Carl were better, now via… me:

U.S. Health Groups File Suit To Expedite More Smoking


An Open Letter

Via David Dorn

An Open Letter to PHE and other “supporters” of ecigs and TRR. (Tobacco RISK Reduction)

AND from David:

David was someone who emailed me early on while conducting my survey (2014) explaining I had nicotine strength (and addiction) all wrong… I didn’t have any higher than 24… he explained strengths went higher…much higher. He explained why.

From the “pleasure principle” to many other things, I learn from this man, I appreciate this man.

Rethink attitudes…


Californian Catastrophe

In the world of funny, this is sad, and this is funny. Not because I was one mentioned within –  because it shows the power of a headline and the lack of intelligence from anyone immediately involved taking it upon themselves to jump on the stupidity bandwagon… and this is why we can’t have nice things.

It is also why, when I as a consumer, do not understand something, I ask someone smarter than I am to explain it. Of course, that practice is evidently not a familiar thing to do among professionals….they just toss it out and… well, I’ve taken up way too much of your time:

Californian Catastrophe


Please, tell the FDA what you think.




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If you own a vape shop and have photos that I can use of customers who are trying to switch, or have switched similar to the one above, please email me directly with those (and the legal ability to use them) to vapingit@outlook.com.

Add names – company name –  number of years the customer smoked, flavor chosen…etc… and any credit you may want for the photo as desired.

 




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Research:


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Your comments are NEVER filtered, always encouraged and welcome on this blog. There is definitely more to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin


 

Vaping In The News – March 17th, 2018

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Vaping In The News covers media stories on smoking, vaping, e-cigarettes, snus, heat not burn, tobacco control, public health, government regulations, policies and more.

“The largest threat to Public Health is an informed consumer.”



Smokers Deserve Improved FDA E-Cigarette Regulation: Pass Cole-Bishop ~ Report from the WCToH 2018 conference in Cape Town ~ #WCTOH2018 (5 of them) ~ Italian Authorities Raid Vaping Expo, Seize Product ~ IQOS?(2 of them) ~ Tobacco Product Taxes Are Regressive. And Punitive.~ The FDA wants to reduce the nicotine in cigarettes to “non-addictive levels” ~ How Will FDA’s Low-Nicotine Cigarettes Affect Vaping? ~ FDA’s Low-Nicotine Cigarettes Rule Is A Dire Threat To Vaping ~ Bonus Section!


Think of the children™.


Smokers Deserve Improved FDA E-Cigarette Regulation: Pass Cole-Bishop

Dr. Rodu…..

Smokers Deserve Improved FDA E-Cigarette Regulation: Pass Cole-Bishop


Report from the WCToH 2018 conference in Cape Town

Interesting slice of info.

Report from the WCToH 2018 conference in Cape Town

………..and………..

The Cult-Like Stupidity At #WCTOH2018

Because Dick Puddlecote is extremely aware…

The Cult-Like Stupidity At #WCTOH2018

………..and………..

Tobacco Control’s Orwellian Statement Of ‘Human Rights’ From #WCTOH2018

Carl, Nuff said…….

Tobacco Control’s Orwellian Statement Of ‘Human Rights’ From #WCTOH2018

………and……….

Tobacco Control Addicts

I think I’ve found the same level of snark I try to get you to enjoy with my blog… I need to blog more…

Tobacco Control Addicts

……..and……….

‘Oh, what a lovely war’ – on reason itself

Outstanding….via Paddy Costall

‘Oh what a lovely war’ – on reason itself


I don’t understand, David! Ruffling feathers isn’t… yes it is. #Louder.


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Italian Authorities Raid Vaping Expo, Seize Product

Don’t you come in here trying to get the government to lose money… more to it that that.

Italian Authorities Raid Vaping Expo, Seize Product


My favorite #CrankyOldBroad has found an accomplice….


IQOS: Good Thing, or Bad?

From Paul, a review of sorts… can’t wait to try one…

IQOS: Good Thing, or Bad?

The In-Between

LOVE this as well…. different perspective.

The In-Between


Tobacco Product Taxes Are Regressive. And Punitive.

Again, Carl…

Tobacco Product Taxes Are Regressive. And Punitive.


The FDA is accepting comments for “standards” in combustible cigarettes.

I’ve covered “lowering nicotine” here and here. “Addiction” is here.

“Tobacco Product Standard for Nicotine Level of Combusted Cigarettes”


The FDA wants to reduce the nicotine in cigarettes to “non-addictive levels”

Of course they do.

The FDA wants to reduce the nicotine in cigarettes to “non-addictive levels”


How Will FDA’s Low-Nicotine Cigarettes Affect Vaping?

Required reading for you who’ve made it this far down…

How Will FDA’s Low-Nicotine Cigarettes Affect Vaping?


FDA’s Low-Nicotine Cigarettes Rule Is A Dire Threat To Vaping

One more time. And really, listen as you read.

FDA’s Low-Nicotine Cigarettes Rule Is A Dire Threat To Vaping


FDA Creates Cigarette Confusion- Calls For Science To Back Up Policy

It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man’s fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination.

It is an area which we call The #KeepSmokingWeNeedTheMoney Zone.

FDA Creates Cigarette Confusion- Calls For Science To Back Up Policy


This isn’t like “lowering nicotine” hasn’t been tried before…

from 1989:

“The ultra-low-nicotine cigarette is the latest entry in an increasingly feverish race among tobacco manufacturers to stop a decline of 2 percent a year in cigarette consumption in the United States. (Sound familiar?)

”It’s a pretty common, patented process that we’re all aware of,” said Douglas Keeney, chairman of C. A. Blockers. He said his company had experimented with eliminating nicotine, but had abandoned it as being too slow and unwieldy.”

Low-Nicotine Cigarette for Philip Morris

And here if necessary to continue the very silly point….

Very Low Nicotine Cigarettes




Lowering nicotine in cigarettes “bonus section”.

I don’t think I’ve ever given out a bonus on my blog… so there’s that. I take my position blogging as a consumer seriously. While I appreciate my regular readers, I also want smokers who are curious (or afraid) to find answers. I ask questions; how will a new idea to reduce smoking and dangers from inhaling smoke (like IQOS above) by choice “work”? Are they better? Are they the same?

Along those lines, same goes with the ever-popular “reduced nicotine” claim.

As far as “other chemicals go”….. “experts” (a term I’ve finally come to admit is rather funny) aren’t saying a reduction of anything but nicotineif they are making that claim, PLEASE let me know.

Moving on – You knew this was coming. So – I have to ask. This morning, Cliff Doug – “VP for Tobacco Control, American Cancer Society, and faculty, University of Michigan School of Public Health” answered my 1st question “What exactly will be different from 1989?”.

Being a smartass with his response, which I do appreciate, I asked the question again… (***politely for the record***) with obvious repercussions if he answered. We both knew that…..

Cliff Douglass himself recently unblocked us on Twitter – for some strange reason – maybe he likes a challenge. Challenge accepted.

I wonder if he’s calling someone? Is he unavailable suddenly for comment? Must be something like that. He left me standing on the edge of a ….

Cliff simply…..hasn’t answered yet. I won’t hold my breath, but the sound of silence is deafening.

After all, all he was just tweeting about is what would have a dramatic impact on public health.

I’ll blog about that this week along with David Goerlitz and more… you’ve been warned.




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Medical, Research, Science Professionals:

Research:


Politics:

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Your comments are NEVER filtered, always encouraged and welcome on this blog. There is definitely more to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

Vaping In The News – March 10th, 2018

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Vaping In The News

Covers media stories on smoking, vaping, e-cigarettes, snus, heat not burn, tobacco control, public health, government regulations, policies and more.

“The largest threat to Public Health is an informed consumer.”

Smoking Is ‘Falling Like A Rock’ ~ HnB and vaping – We’re on the same side! ~ Public (Health) Image Limited ~ 75% tax on e-cigarettes ~ Are There Metals In Vapor? No Need To Worry ~ Battery-related burns 2016 ~ The e-cigarette industry: The most unfairly treated industry in history ~ The First Amendment ~ Why NNA supports all forms of tobacco harm reduction ~ A Terrified Industry ~ How Low Will They Go? ~ Just Who Is Actually Marketing Vapes To Children? ~ IQOS: Good Thing, or Bad? ~ Lawmakers in Connecticut Consider Cigarette Tax Increase ~ Starve them into submission




Smoking Is ‘Falling Like A Rock’ In Iceland Thanks To The ‘Blessing’ Of Vaping

Say it isn’t so…

Smoking Is ‘Falling Like A Rock’ In Iceland Thanks To The ‘Blessing’ Of Vaping


HnB and vaping – We’re on the same side!

I’m not sure you’re aware…

HnB and vaping – We’re on the same side!


Public (Health) Image Limited

Last week Jester published (and highly recommended) this blog.  This week, a follow up. Excellent.

Public (Health) Image Limited


A Billion Lives & The Winston Man: The Exclusive Interview

A Billion Lives & The Winston Man: The Exclusive Interview


Mic Drop.

A political front group tries to call out Derek Yach.


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Keep not smoking, we need the money.

This is very annoying.

The State of New Jersey is considering a 75% tax on e-cigarettes


Battery-related burns 2016

*Note* the actual and “National estimate” columns within…..

Covered before here, practice battery safety.

Stop setting yourselves on fire.

Electronic nicotine delivery system (ENDS) battery-related burns presenting to US emergency departments, 2016


Tobacco control and the tobacco industry – a failure of understanding and imagination

Clive…

Tobacco control and the tobacco industry – a failure of understanding and imagination


The e-cigarette industry: The most unfairly treated industry in history

Among others, this is also true.

The e-cigarette industry: The most unfairly treated industry in history


The First Amendment Applies to the FDA Too

Louder.

The First Amendment Applies to the FDA Too


Why NNA supports all forms of tobacco harm reduction

Because it’s reduction in harm:

Why NNA supports all forms of tobacco harm reduction


A Terrified Industry

This week, #WCTOH2018 was tweeting themselves silly with taxes, regulation and saving themselves.

A Terrified Industry



Related from Carl:

How low will they go?

How Low Will They Go? The Irony From The World Conference On Tobacco Or Health


Just Who Is Actually Marketing Vapes To Children?

Just Who Is Actually Marketing Vapes To Children?


IQOS: Good Thing, or Bad?

As I’ve said somewhere before in my blog, I will (and look forward to) trying the IQOS when it is available in the U.S.A.

Paul has.

IQOS: Good Thing, or Bad?


Lawmakers in Connecticut Consider Cigarette Tax Increase

Of course they consider it.

Ladies & Gentlemen, Lindsey Stroud:

Lawmakers in Connecticut Consider Cigarette Tax Increase


Starve them into submission

Excellent.

Starve them into submission


Studies, Health, Data & Science:

Do flavouring compounds contribute to aldehyde emissions in e-cigarettes?

Do flavouring compounds contribute to aldehyde emissions in e-cigarettes?

Are There Metals In Vapor? No Need To Worry

Are There Metals In Vapor? No Need To Worry


Have you met my OUR friends at vapers.org.uk? 

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You can find me here trying to be cordial on Facebook

You can find me here being a bit more evil on Twitter

You can also find me on LinkedIn


Tobacco Harm Reduction For Life

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Medical, Research, Science Professionals:

Research:


Politics:

E-Cigarette Politics 

A Billion Lives

A Billion Lives


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Your comments are NEVER filtered, always encouraged and welcome on this blog. There is definitely more to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Vaping In The News – February 3rd, 2018

Vaping In The News covers media stories on smoking, vaping, e-cigarettes, snus, heat not burn, tobacco control, public health, government regulations, policies and more.

“The largest threat to Public Health is an informed consumer.”


Vaping Litigation: The Constitution going up in vapor~ Trump’s top health official traded tobacco stock while leading anti-smoking efforts ~ The END of smoking: Tobacco firm to STOP selling Marlboro cigarettes in the UK ~ These products are safer than cigarettes – why don’t the regulators want to know? ~ Wrigley lawsuit: Don’t use Starburst, Skittles to sell e-cigarette liquid ~ Nicotine Reflections ~ In twenty years, will vaping be like cigarette smoking and found to cause major health problems? ~ Easiest Way to Quit Smoking ~  Are Low-Nicotine Cigarettes Less Likely To Cause Cancer? ~ CDC study confirms vaping more popular than ‘the patch’ or other NRTs 


Vaping Litigation: The Constitution going up in vapor

Vaping Litigation: The Constitution going up in vapor

FDA sued over ‘unconstitutional’ rule that threatens e-cigarette businesses

FDA sued over ‘unconstitutional’ rule that threatens e-cigarette businesses

Nonsensical FDA Ban On Vaping Products Faces Three New Legal Challenges

Nonsensical FDA Ban On Vaping Products Faces Three New Legal Challenges


Trump’s top health official traded tobacco stock while leading anti-smoking efforts

The director of the Centers for Disease Control.

Along with tobacco stocks, “Merck & Co., Bayer and health insurance company Humana”…  imagine that.

Trump’s top health official traded tobacco stock while leading anti-smoking efforts

Related:

CDC director bought tobacco stock while in office

CDC director bought tobacco stock while in office

Even more:

“The day after Fitzgerald purchased her tobacco stock, she toured the CDC’s Tobacco Laboratory to learn more about how chemicals in cigarettes harmed human health. When she was previously working for the Georgia Department of Public Health, Fitzgerald listed tobacco cessation as one of her public health priorities — despite then owning stocks in five major tobacco companies, including Philip Morris International and British American Tobacco.”

Trump’s top public health official invested in Big Tobacco after taking the job

Trump’s top public health official invested in Big Tobacco after taking the job

And then expected. Imagine that.

Of course, with the “flu epidemic” in full swing…

Scandalous CDC director RESIGNS after caught buying shares of vaccine maker Merck while heading the CDC

Another, from MarketWatch:

This one links to her disclosure form…

Say this for the CDC director — she created the perfect hedge

“This is unusual, in the literal sense of that word. This is un-usual. This is not standard operating practice,”

Zippy, excuse me, former CDC Director Dr. Tom Frieden states “when she learned of it she directed that it be sold.” While in custody of Public Health, evidently, career h̶e̶a̶l̶t̶h̶ ̶p̶r̶o̶f̶e̶s̶s̶i̶o̶n̶a̶l̶s̶  criminals are immune to ethics.

Or think they won’t get caught. Classic.

CDC Director’s Investment in Tobacco, Drug Companies Baffles Ethics Experts


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The END of smoking: Tobacco firm to STOP selling Marlboro cigarettes in the UK

They’re taking tobacco control’s jobs away……

The END of smoking: Tobacco firm to STOP selling Marlboro cigarettes in the UK


These products are safer than cigarettes – why don’t the regulators want to know?

Excellent observation , excellent question!

These products are safer than cigarettes – why don’t the regulators want to know?


Wrigley lawsuit: Don’t use Starburst, Skittles to sell e-cigarette liquid

Stupid is, stupid does.

Wrigley lawsuit: Don’t use Starburst, Skittles to sell e-cigarette liquid


FDA Waits Firmly Committed to Nicotine Reduction in Cigarettes

Smoking crimes will continue…

In my opinion, this press release is to settle investors minds.

“Cancer Action Network, American Heart Association, American Lung Association, Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids and the Truth Initiative co-authored a letter to Dr. Gottlieb and the FDA”

FDA Remains Firmly Committed to Nicotine Reduction in Cigarettes

But…investors are questioning integrity:

22nd Century – Cutting Through The Smoke And Hype – 75% Downside

Related via Carl V. Phillips

Are Low-Nicotine Cigarettes Less Likely To Cause Cancer?


Nicotine Reflections – A Guest Post From Vape Advocate Terry Walker

Outstanding……..

Nicotine Reflections


In twenty years, will vaping be like cigarette smoking and found to cause major health problems?

Well, it could.

In twenty years, will vaping be like cigarette smoking and found to cause major health problems?


Easiest Way to Quit Smoking

On my “Can you quit smoking with patches and gums?” blog a few weeks ago, I decided to post a photo… and suddenly, one of my addictions was pointed out – very well, I may add… 🙂

Not only does this wonderful company love you as a group, they are also ready to give you their “personalized attention”.

Easiest Way to Quit Smoking


Nominations for “World No Tobacco Day” 

are being accepted for Tobacco Control organizations not doing their jobs:

World No Tobacco Day Awards 2018


CDC study confirms vaping more popular than ‘the patch’ or other NRTs

You may have participated in this:

CDC study confirms vaping more popular than ‘the patch’ or other NRTs


Altria Group will pay $3,000 bonus to all non-executive employees

Hoooaaaahhhh….

Altria Group will pay $3,000 bonus to all non-executive employees


Due to poor internet access – Vaping In The News will return on the 24th!




Have you met my OUR friends at vapers.org.uk? 

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You can find me here trying to be cordial on Facebook

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Tobacco Harm Reduction For Life

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Medical, Research, Science Professionals:

Research:


Politics:

E-Cigarette Politics 

A Billion Lives

A Billion Lives


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Your comments are NEVER filtered, always encouraged and welcome on this blog. There is definitely more to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

Vaping In The News – January 27th, 2018

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Vaping In The News covers media stories on smoking, vaping, e-cigarettes, snus, heat not burn, tobacco control, public health, government regulations, policies and more.

“The largest threat to Public Health is an informed consumer.”


Altria seeks state review of tax policy ~ Will we ever get the truth behind the FDA’s devastating vaping rule? ~ Shocking cigarette development could change everything ~ Public Health Consequences of E-Cigarettes (4) ~ Japan’s IQOS Experience Suggests Product Could Reduce U.S. Cigarette Consumption ~ A Big Week For Tobacco Harm Reduction ~ I could be wrong… ~ Vaping less harmful to lung fluids than smoking, study shows ~ Why D.C.’s proposed $2-a-pack increase in cigarette taxes is wrong ~ Joint Statement


Altria seeks state review of tax policy on new ‘reduced risk’ tobacco products

So, taxing “nicotine” because it is “deemedtobacco is to recoup taxes on losses of the government(s) from slowing sales of tobacco – and of course, they didn’t plan on cigarette sales dropping like they have, as a result of their irresponsible fiscal greed and inability to budget downward and out of existence, they deemed nicotine & e-cigs, components and parts AS tobacco so they can tax them and oh, I’m just babbling now — anywhooo….

Altria wants to reduce taxes on tobacco because it’s “reduced risk” tobacco. So, yeah.

Altria seeks state review of tax policy on new ‘reduced risk’ tobacco products


Will we ever get the truth behind the FDA’s devastating vaping rule?

In case you missed it, it’s pretty clear…

NOT.

Will we ever get the truth behind the FDA’s devastating vaping rule?


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Shocking cigarette development could change everything

Shocking cigarette development could change everything

And, because I’m your friend, I’ll include this, where the ‘ever self-important’ Professor “Puff-N-Stuff” wants to control the world, he’s put his worthless opinion in, added here for your convenience. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

FDA should not grant PMI’s Premarket Tobacco Product Application for IQOS


Host–agent–vector–environment measures for electronic cigarette research used in NIH grants

This one made me laugh angry. In the conclusions from 2007 thru 2015:

“contributes to receipt and ultimately funding a greater proportion of grant proposals”

“lack of specificity about the e-cigarette product under study”

“authors needed to conduct online searches to determine the product type”

“Consequently, the universe of grant proposals in our analysis could reflect a bias of the funding agencies’ priorities and not the investigative community.”

“Could reflect a bias”… could, my vaping ass.

Host–agent–vector–environment measures for electronic cigarette research used in NIH grants


Public Health Consequences of E-Cigarettes

Well, for the most part…. there are consequences… and while it may take a while for you to go through it, I’ve got Jim McDonald, Carl V. Phillips and Michael Siegel below it to shed better light on it before you decide to click on the actual report.

Via Jim McDonald / Vaping 360:

“The bottom line is that the NASEM review is just what the FDA was hoping for.”

National Academies Vape Report: Just What the FDA Needed

Via Carl V. Phillips / Daily Vaper

There is no addiction, there is no gateway…

“There is no informational content here.”

National Academies Report On E-Cigs: Just What The FDA Ordered

Via Dr. Michael Siegel

He adjusted the content to be accepted for publishing in U.S. News & World Report. (His commentary is included in the graphic below the link)

National Academy of Sciences Report on E-Cigarettes Confirms that Vaping is Much Safer than Smoking and Has No Known Long-Term Health Effects

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Dr. Siegel’s article in U.S. News & World Report:

Real Talk About Vaping

The actual report:

Public Health Consequences of E-Cigarettes


Japan’s IQOS Experience Suggests Product Could Reduce U.S. Cigarette Consumption

Brad Rodu… any questions?

Japan’s IQOS Experience Suggests Product Could Reduce U.S. Cigarette Consumption


A Big Week For Tobacco Harm Reduction

Dick Puddlecote… Any questions?

A Big Week For Tobacco Harm Reduction


I could be wrong…

I. As in me. I could be wrong. It’s happened…. anyway… 22nd Century has been touted countless times by organized crime syndicates about how excited they are for “lowering nicotine” in cigarettes. The FDA has said it enough for me to become obsessed with the success or fate of this company. I don’t “care”, but have watched intently as the idiots think it could work for smokers wanting to quit… I thought it was a shoo in, at least for the FDA to keep saying it.

Investors on the other hand…

Clive Bates and David Sweanor are both quoted within:

Smokin’ 22nd Century (XXII) Will Get Crushed


Vaping less harmful to lung fluids than smoking, study shows

Well, of course, it is.

Vaping less harmful to lung fluids than smoking, study shows


Why D.C.’s proposed $2-a-pack increase in cigarette taxes is wrong

#KeepSmokingWeNeedTheMoney :

Why D.C.’s proposed $2-a-pack increase in cigarette taxes is wrong


Smoking cost runs high in South Carolina

Lindsey Stroud states:

“not only is the Food and Drug Administration battling e-cigarettes, county health departments around the country are joining in the battle to “demonize devices that can help improve public health.”

Smoking cost runs high in South Carolina


Joining Ranks

Finally – to wrap up Vaping In The News this week, the scream test continues… each time I see “prestigious” educational institutions denying funding… I get inquisitive…

Ellen J. MacKenzie, PhD, MSc, Dean of Bloomberg School of Public Health  – Johns Hopkins University joined ranks by choosing financing and funding of their research to continue with taxes from smoking as they released this joint statement.

Since the Master Settlement Agreement commenced in 1998, I can only conclude – according to the Johns Hopkins University website stating  “as a partner in a number of public health initiatives since its inception in 1998” that Dean MacKenzie (and the others signing) place funding via sales of tobacco via the MSA as ethical… but don’t trust themselves to do unbiased research despite the source of funding.

 




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Can you quit smoking with patches and gums?

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CAN you quit smoking with patches and gums?

Are attempts with these quit smoking products successful? Can you find success rates for them? Do they work? Can you quit smoking? I’m sure there are a few who will say yes. I say it is a deceptive practice to say you can.

To quit smoking with any approved method is a challenge. Why is that?  Can you quit with Nicorette® patches and gums? I asked, not so innocently, for success rates with Nicorette® product(s). I was given an 800 number to get personalized attention.  Has anyone ever thought to ask as they were purchasing their product? I’m always asking silly rhetorical questions. It’s a hobby.


Will quitting be successful for you?

If they were as successful as commercials and graphics are intended to make you “feel” by helping people quit smoking, wouldn’t they say so immediately? Give me something, like a 94% satisfaction rate. 85% of our customers are smoke-free. Repeat the successful rates of the product to potential customers, not the success of repeat customers trying again. Fine, I’m reaching for the perverbial stars, I suppose.


I’m guessing a 7% success rate.

What are success rates for Nicorette® patches and gums? I don’t know. Nicorette® evidently doesn’t either. It is that time of year, with New Years Eve coming up, ads will be convincing you that you can succeed. Keep trying. Do your best. Their subtle guilt trip illusions are coming.

I asked  “What are the success rates with your product” directly to Nicorette®,  made by Glaxo-Smith Kline on Twitter. I didn’t think it would be a hard question.

Not that Glaxo-Smith Kline would ever do anything to deter any other method of…..


Can you quit smoking?

People spend hours looking up the reviews on the latest appliance they’re thinking about purchasing, but spend 30 seconds deciding on an “approved” method, because you know, if it isn’t an approved method, it must be (bad, dangerous, unproven, deceitful, not taxable, pharma’s idea) just plain wrong.

There are times in some smokers lives where they either choose to quit smoking, or because of various reasons, want to quit. In my instance, I switched to vaping accidentally. I had, however, tried the patches and gums years before and they just didn’t work.

I didn’t even think to ask the doctor about success rates, I assumed they worked. So does the rest of the world. I’d like to see success rates after 6 months, 1 year, heck, call me crazy, 5 years – with relapse rates. (With all that data-driven stuff people like to blab about). Implying that it works isn’t enough any more. Proof by assertion isn’t enough.

How about real world stuff… still waiting.


I’ll direct you here:

Whistleblower sues GlaxoSmithKline over nicotine product

I am guiding you to this by Amy Renshaw from Vanderbilt University:

The Real Story Behind The Nicotine Patch and Smoking Cessation

DO they work? This article stated “the most rigorous long-term study” said no”.

Mine, where, ~dare I say~ patches and gums do not work because you are not addicted to nicotine itself. You are possibly addicted to the other chemicals or chemical reactions within smoking tbacco, but nicotine “addiction” without tobacco simply does not exist. Period.


There is no data or science showing nicotine “addiction” without tobacco and MAOI’s.


It’s like I’m a mind reader… really….

In fact, (added 12/21/17)

Why Is Smoking Addictive? It’s Probably Not Just Nicotine, Despite What We’ve Been Told For Years

Then this came up 12/22/17:

Nicotine patches and medications aren’t enough to quit smoking, a study finds

Nicotine is not addictive.


I rephrased my question, at the time of publishing this blog, there was no response.

My guess is a 93% failure rate.

Don’t take my word for it.

The patches and gums “may, could, might” work. I would say percentages of success are 7%, and I’m being very optimistic with that. For your own sanity, call the company and ask them about success rates. Ask your doctor. Let me know how they respond.

Here’s one (2009) with “effectiveness”… (Thanks, Jenny!)

Effectiveness and safety of nicotine replacement therapy assisted reduction to stop smoking: systematic review and meta-analysis

One with the Patch (1993)

Effectiveness of a nicotine patch in helping people stop smoking

What about Zyban or Chantix?

Pfizer’s quit-smoking Chantix fails study in adolescent smokers


From my survey:

Taking Chances with Chantix or Zyban to Quit Smoking



One with e-cigs (Thanks, Elaine!)

EffiCiency and Safety of an eLectronic cigAreTte (ECLAT) as Tobacco Cigarettes Substitute: A Prospective 12-Month Randomized Control Design Study

Another with e-cigs (Thanks, Jenny!)

Electronic Cigarettes As a Smoking-Cessation Tool

Effectiveness of Pharmaceutical Smoking Cessation Aids (Thanks, Skip!)

“pharmaceutical aids for smoking cessation, despite strong evidence for efficacy from randomized trials, have not been effective at increasing successful quitting”

Effectiveness of Pharmaceutical Smoking Cessation Aids in a Nationally Representative Cohort of American Smokers




I don’t want Nicorette feeling singled out, I also asked Pfizer quite a while ago:


 

Added 01/01/18

Smokers Willing to Try E-Cigarettes More Successful at Smoking Less, Study Says




Ask your government, they’d tell you, because they care, that every try counts.


Speaking of timing

Here’s Carl V. Phillips with his latest timely post over at The Daily Vaper:

Science Lesson: Smoking Cessation Is Not Medical Treatment

 

You can see here what the FDA charts with all “approved” methods here:

Table Data: FDA Approved Drug



Added 2/01/2018

Easiest Way to Quit Smoking

This is pretty awesome.

Not only does this wonderful company love you as a group, they are also ready to give you their “personalized attention”.

Easiest Way to Quit Smoking


Added 6/14/2018

I didn’t know there was “preloading” of…. never mind:

No clear evidence that nicotine ‘preloading’ helps smokers to quit



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Teen Smoking Drops, Gateway Closes, Unicorns Unemployed

Teen Smoking Drops, Popular Gateway Closes, Unicorns Unemployed

Teen Smoking Drops, Gateway Closes

Teen smoking rates dropped again despite the ever-popular assessment that e-cigarettes “could be” a gateway to smoking. Even this year, stories continue to manipulate public perception with titles like “heavier teen tobacco use” and content to conjure images of a pack of 8-year-olds smoking like it’s going out of style. I’ll get to the unicorns sightings, I know that’s why you’re here.

Also noteworthy, and no surprise, e-cigarette use is going up. Well, hang on to your hats. If e-cigarettes are a gateway to smoking… where are the new smokers? You ponder that question, I’ll keep typing.


They’re wrong, No Gateway

With the confidence of a unicorn herder, always good for a laugh ever-so-credible Stanton Glantz just below boasts “even non-nicotine #ecigarettes are a strong gateway to cigarettes…” and he’s wrong. He uses the word “are”.  Not only is he wrong, he’s wrong at least twice.

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If he were correct in his hypothesis, this would be a different blog. I trust grandstanding filled with babbling and buffoonery is forthcoming from Stan about how wrong he isn’t.  (Blatantly obnoxious and wrong.) He’ll stroke his beard,  fidget in his chair, participate in some pesky deposition, but won’t admit wrong, he and others have been wrong, and will continue to be wrong. With reports of youth smoking rates dropping to all-time lows, thousands of gateway enthusiasts like Stanton “Puff-N-Stuff” Glantz, are… well, I am happy to report as I did in August here, and here, wrong.


Teen smoking drops again

Teen Nicotine and tobacco use (smoking rates) dropped again according to the latest report from the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA)  called “Monitoring The Future Survey”.

Use of traditional cigarettes has continued to decline to the lowest levels in the survey’s history.

Significant five-year declines-by more than half for daily use and for use of one-half pack or more per day-were reported by all grades.

Daily cigarette use was reported by 0.6 percent of 8th graders

2.2 percent of 10th graders

4.2 percent of 12th graders in 2017.

This was down from peaks of 10.4 percent and 18.3 percent among 8th and 10th graders in 1996 and a peak of 24.6 percent of 12th graders in 1997.


Unicorns

Expert Integrity In Question

Gateway Enthusiasts and Unicorns are out of work

Despite the valiant efforts of “experts”, despite an uncanny desire to invest in tactics like this to keep kids smoking, they’re smoking less. Now, due to cause and effect, the country has countless unicorns displaced and unemployed. Gateway enthusiasts and Unicorns are looking for work. Kids sure don’t smoke like they used to. Do what you can to save the unicorns, continue to question the integrity of experts.

Since the definition of nicotine is now tobacco, tobacco USE rates/funding are in jeopardy. (I predict next year the “tobacco use” will be put together with smoking in this survey, with or without nicotine). To my knowledge, not one city has made an effort to focus on the intended target: children. Instead of focusing on pre-teen and teen smoking (what I would consider 8-15 year-old juveniles), to educate that age group on tobacco use, so-called “experts” are insistent, despite the lowest smoking rates in history, on half-assed efforts and a lot of money aimed at raising the age of purchasing tobacco and e-cigs to 21.


Teens Are Smoking Less

While I was writing this blog, this came across my eye. (Thanks, Jenny!)

While all the “Tobacco 21” enthusiasts are running around feeling good about themselves, the teen smokers they should be spending energy on are already smoking. In this, it states the desire to raise the age to 21. Well. The paragraph above I stated 8-15 as the age range to educate, where (bold emphasis is mine) this study says:

“The mean age for the first puff on a cigarette was 11.7 years (n = 66). Youths who had stolen tobacco from a parent reported a mean age for the first puff (11.3 years), one year earlier than youths who had never stolen tobacco from a parent (12.3 years, n = 66, p = 0.05)”

Focus time on efforts, not control

11 year olds. 12 year olds. Why are they worrying about restricting 18-20-year-old adults again? Why are they not worried about pre-teen and teen tobacco use? Oh, that’s right, they’re experts. It’s pretty obvious a quick check with my untrained eye on the target age of when children first initiate smoking *in their own study* isn’t their expertise.  Maybe no one noticed.

You would think efforts focusing on pre-teen smoking education before a potential problem occurs would be more fruitful, and the obvious primary focus. Instead, restrict adults from doing something that “they might do” as adults has become the idiotic trend.

As far as my personal view, I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again:

On teens: “If “children” are *already smoking, they’re *smokers regardless of age. Think of the children™.”

If these people worked on the…. they might work themselves right out …. of… a …. job . . . wait a minute….

 


This was added 12/19/17.


Smoking Rates Among Youth Now At “Unimaginable” Levels

Added 01/18/17:

1.7 Million High Schoolers Vaped in 2016, As Both Vaping and Smoking Declined

Added 06/14/2018:

Still not smoking.

The elusive ‘epidemic’ of teen vaping

 


Other related links of interest:

Electronic Cigarette Age Restrictions May Drive Teens to Traditional Cigarettes

US survey: Youth smoking rates reach historic lows despite e-cig popularity

Adolescent Smoking Rates Reach Historic Lows, Despite Vaping’s Popularity





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Simon Chapman: The E̶m̶p̶e̶r̶o̶r̶ ̶ Emeritus Wears No Clothes Down Under.

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Simon Chapman: The E̶m̶p̶e̶r̶o̶r̶ ̶ Emeritus Wears No Clothes Down Under.

There comes a time where things need to be said. People in charge need to be pointed out. There have been things that no one, specifically Simon Chapman, wanted to talk about, like suggestions of law, regulations, and opinion to manipulate nicotine in this instance, but “don’t talk about it”.

Public health, is top secret stuff, evidently.

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ENDS-Discussion-paper


I would be irresponsible if I didn’t link Clive Bates covering the paper above here.


Less smoking in Australia comes with fines

The “discussion paper” (Note the other names in that) surely in part, brought this idiotic fine “penalty system” where posession of nicotine includes fines (and jail time) and cigarettes are legal:

Aussies 3 with smokes


Act Like An Expert

I’ve proudly called Simon Chapman a “chimpmanzee” among other obvious things here.

As an “expert” in tobacco control, it’s been pointed out by much smarter people than I am (in many instances) that Simon is wrong. You’d think, with his Ph.D. in social medicine that he would know better.

It isn’t the first time Mr. Chapman has been called out here, here & here.

Christopher Snowden could go on here.

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An assertion does not make you correct

This one is one of my favorite instances of assertion by Simon Chapman, and it still puzzles me as to why he would ever make such a rookie professional mistake.

Remember, this statement is from a tobacco control EXPERT influencing public HEALTH and tobacco control. I’d expect such a person to know everything there is to know about nicotine.

If you happen to be an “expert”, act like one. Make it a goal to know more than common people like me, or Judith below.

 

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Even in his retirement, he wants to assert control.


Name calling and… well, who’s above that…

I’ve thought of calling Simon Chapman a “pretentious prick”. A “man-child”. I’ve thought “what an arrogant pompous ass”, yet I’ve only given time and effort where I thought it may be most appropriate. Like now.

It isn’t like Chapman would ever call anyone attempting to engage him properly,  (yes I did) trolls.

Let us clear the decks, call out the lies of those who have more power and funding than brains who are influencing idiotic policy with less than desireable required credentials and force them to answer the questions publicly.

I don’t want to waste any more of our time.

You can see Senator Leyonhjelm who has balls, discussing Simon Chapman below.


 

“…Department of Health was so taken aback by Simon Chapman’s false statements that they felt the need to go on the record and clear things up”

“Ill-informed, willfully ignorant and downright malicious”

“Snake oil salesman come in all shapes and sizes. Sometimes they take the guise of an emeritus professor of sociology” ~ Senator Leyonhjelm

 

 


 

Don’t spread this around, Simon is talking about litigation.

Spell my name right, Simon.


As a footnote, the last time I wrote about my pal Simon, he graciously reviewed my inane drivel on Twitter. I aspire to do the same again. Seriously.

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Added 03/03/2018

 

I’m sure there’ll be more:

Simon Chapman: Expert Merchant Of Doubt




 

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This is Why Tobacco Control Should not be Trusted

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This is Why Tobacco Control Should not be Trusted

This guest blog is courtesy of two people I trust:

Kevin M. Price and David Goerlitz.

The current decline in smoking has been well-documented and has occurred because of a consumer based technology coming into the marketplace, not by the efforts of Tobacco Control (TC) groups. TC is primarily funded by Tobacco Taxes. It is a textbook conflict of interest because if they succeed at what they are trying to do, they will de-fund themselves. Let me make this a bit clearer for those of you reading this; Tobacco Control does NOT have the goal of eliminating smoking, period! TC is about control and power. Here are some of their proposed ‘fixes’ and what they claim their goal is along with what their true objectives are:

Tobacco 21- TC claims that raising the age to purchase tobacco products will reduce the numbers of new smokers by 25%. In actuality, it has done little to help reduce smoking or curb youth access since it does not make it illegal to possess tobacco products if you are under 21 and it has been largely rejected by a majority of cities and towns already. Raising the age to buy without the means to enforce it is a feigned attempt to appear to be doing a public service. The intended goal of this program is to inflate the numbers of ‘youth smokers’ by including the now ‘underage’ 18-20 year olds in their reports and surveys. They will further secure their funding by showing a jump in tobacco use overnight. Clever but not completely honest to say the least.

Flavor Bans- TC will claim that “Flavors are marketed to Children” and should be banned from all tobacco products. Tobacco Harm Reduction (THR) has played a major role in helping people to stop smoking. It is estimated that nearly 13 million Adults in the USA have used smokeless tobacco (Vaping and Snus) with significantly higher success rates (67%) of never returning to combustible tobacco products again, using flavored products. Why would TC want to remove products that are magnitudes safer than smoking? Why would TC want to restrict access to something that millions of adults have found success quitting smoking with? If someone is trying to quit smoking, should they HAVE to use tobacco flavors to do so? The answer, they are well aware that doing so will cause many to return to smoking, completing the cycle of taxation and funding for their continued existence. It is not about public health, it is about their funding.

High Taxation- Tobacco has always been the target for taxes and revenue generators for states. The sin and guilt applied to smokers has been a psychological war going on for decades. ‘You smoke and should be ashamed of it, pay your taxes’. However, TC has completely ignored any and all THR products citing that ‘They are not FDA approved’ as their reasoning. Again, I ask you, Why not include THR products with a very high success rate and far less harm? It is an obvious ruse and it comes back to their funding. Call it ‘Tobacco’, tax it, and keep the funding coming in, rinse and repeat. Are you seeing the trend here? I hope so. On to the next…

Tobacco Control uses slight of words- If you listen to these TC groups speak, they will interchange the words ‘tobacco’ and ‘nicotine’ as if they are one and the same, they are not. Using this play on words they will say things like “Smoking kills 480k+ Americans each year. ____________ (add in any of their proposals above here) will save people from their deadly addictions to nicotine and create a healthier state/city in ____________ (enter city or state here).” They want to create the narrative so that people associate tobacco and nicotine as one and the same by continually using them together. Keep in mind that there are no studies that can prove nicotine is deadly or that it is ‘highly addictive’ as they claim. Not ONE study! Prove me wrong, I’ll wait. They do this so that they can include anything with nicotine in it to be taxed just like tobacco…to protect their funding.

Finally, I would like to point out that these TC groups are NOT required to communicate truthfully OR factually to the public. They are not bound by any state or federal laws to tell the truth. Having given you my professional opinion, I stand by the title of this letter in saying “This is WHY Tobacco Control should not be trusted”.

 


 

Kevin M. Price is the President of THR4Life. You can learn more about THR4Life here.

You can listen to David on his podcast, here.

You can watch David on this interview on Smoke-Free Radio with Dimi here, where the gloves are off.

 

You can watch his latest interview with Norm Bour of VapeMentors below.

 

 



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