Is “public health” guided by a code of ethics? Do they manufacture fear, utilizing a ‘greater good‘ behavioral “science” theory as form of social control? Is adding ‘we can all agree’ to narrate manipulate public opinions changing health outcomes for the public at large?
Have expectations vs reality concerning what’s ‘best for you’ reared their ugly head(s)? Over time – trust, and the morality factor public health thrives on – had to come to light, eventually.
An Ethical Dilemma
Lets see if I have this right: #Science is science. Junk science isn’t science. Correlation isn’t science, pseudoscience isn’t ‘science’. Science-based isn’t science, behavioral science is pseudoscience, “trust the science” means there was no science, depending on someone’s interpretation, and eventually, presentation with a long silent wink of encouraged speculation.
“Their” science, and ethics should by always be questioned. Isn’t that how science works? Alas, my tobacco control math skill could be wrong, but I’ll get back to that.
Surely they all have a ‘code of ethics’ in their respective groups, but what is the standard? The definition of ‘research misconduct’ from the U.S. Office of Research Integrity is vague at best, as I point to:
(d) Research misconduct does not include honest error or differences of opinion.
Differences of opinion??? Huh. Think about that. If they ‘police themselves’, but “Hey, Bill, I appreciate your concern, but – we’ve always done it this way” is the norm, then what differentiates the norm?
I have an idea, do your jobs by properly informing consumers, displaying respect for human rights, scientific integrity, and of course, ethics. No more, no less.
Do we trust them? Even they don’t even think we do.
Theoretical rhetoric, narratives, and public opinion
Yep, you read that right. “Theoretical rhetoric“.
Last week I noticed trust in Truth Initiative, and their narratives, has fallen. Dramatically. I’m unable to pinpoint how (or when) it happened, or for how long, but I can point to a specific moment I noticed the general public has turned on Truth Initiative. (So have I, here, and here.) Don’t get me started on them terrorizing the juvenile delinquentschildren™.
I’m not unhappy about this revelation, but I’ll try not to gloat.
Definition of truth: the quality or state of being true.
I don’t pay attention to Truth Manipulative’s Facebook posts any more. I used to search them out like a crazed madman playing “whack-a-mole”. I would see the occasional familiar face on a post, but didn’t recognize anyone in this “Truth” >sponsored< post and Facebook thread. These people didn’t mention synthetic nicotine in their comments, they didn’t even mention vaping. Yet, trust seemed sparse all along the watchtower of their non-profit political front group threads.
Jim said “Keep the government out of people’s personal decisions.”
Andy said “How about if you just let people make decisions about what they want to consume for themselves?”
Ray said “Leave people alone, who made you the morality police.”
As I wandered down the rabbit hole, I found this post was also full of unfavorable comments and public opinions. Then I saw it again on this post as well.
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Added 7/28/2022:
Speaking of Truth Manipulative, I cannot ruin it for you, but here’s an excerpt from Marc Gunther at Filter Mag:
“We’re not talking misinformation. We’re talking disinformation. This is willful misrepresentation of facts. It’s mind-blowing.” ~ Sally Satel (@slsatel)
My preface: The not-so-intricate connections between orgs, pseudo, sociopolitical “science” – silencing #science… and is far more important than what you’ve read thus far:
Writing this down. One of the most effective tactics of the Tobacco Control establishment has always been to fabricate a public outcry about vaping in the media when, in fact, no such far reaching public concern exists.
While drafting this blog, it seems there are some distracted tobacco control “experts” recently feeling as if they’re being intimidated, and “it disrupts their work“.
“Over two-fifths of participants reported either experiencing one or more of these more covert intimidatory tactics directly or were aware that another member of the tobacco control community had been intimidated”
Tobacco control math: 23 participants. Two-fifths. Sounds scary.
A survey – imagine – showing “Twenty-three participants from five WHO regions” had “experienced intimidation. The most frequently reported forms of intimidation were discreditation on social or traditional media“.
In typical form, ‘we’re being bullied’ from the bullies, and – in classic tobacco control generalization, suddenly an anecdotal self-reporting survey is absolute. And reliable? But vapers testimonies are not? Huh.
I say, after all these years – To see the public lose trust in the ivory tower that is “public health” in any form, stand UP and explain their disdain is a welcome sight and sound. It’s not about time to start calling them out, it’s long overdue.
The Commissioner of the FDA, Robert Califf, mentioned misinformation on February 17th of this year, and now has announced an investigation of his own agency.
Pardon my skepticism, this should turn out well under their own scrutiny, then manipulation of the findings….
As a recent guest of Son of Liberty Radio, American Council on Science and Health author, Cameron English has produced a growing list of top junk science used here.
Does it concern you that legal child abuse and terrorizing children about nicotine has become acceptable, ethical and permissible? Is convincing other children tobully and shame each other now mainstream? Is fear-based embarrassment and coercion promoted by adultssuitable for children?
The recent reported physical and mental child abuse, and terrorizing children about nicotine has me asking questions.
Oh, and it’s pissing me off.
UPDATE 3/09/2022:
Turns out they were LYING.
Now there’s a study. It states:
“However, e-cigarette use was not related to the development of depression symptoms over time.”
Are campaigns like “depression stick” belittling and stigmatizing children, who may already be dealing with depression and mental illness, a truly proactive or healthy approach? Is it acceptable to stigmatize someone who might be self-medicating (and doesn’t realize it) because they suffer from depression or other mental health issues?
What happens when non-profit political front groups lie about #nicotine, and a child, using it to cope with feelings of depression & anxiety, is pressured to stop using it, and does something drastic?
Who encourages that? Narcissists.
Contradiction Of Themselves
Truth Initiative states in 2016 here: “Nicotine is used for a number of reasons“, stating “Some nicotine users benefit from self-medication effects for alleviation of stress, anxiety, depression, and other mental health and medical conditions, including schizophrenia and Parkinson’s Disease.”
What if these kids
have food insecurities
have parents who ignore them
experienced verbal or sexual abuse
are from broken, one-parent homes
have depression, or PTSD from unknown reasons…
Have you heard “nicotine” ‘alters’ teens brains? Yeah, me too. They didn’t tell you the ‘teens’ were MICE, did they?
What about humans?
Well, put your coffee down. No?
It’s VERY clear in humans: “Preclinical models and human studies have demonstrated that nicotine has cognitive-enhancing effects, including improvement of fine motor functions, attention, working memory, and episodic memory.”
Meanwhile, nanny-state adult(s) who know all, didn’t talk with them to understand or recognize why? Instead, they’re told to stop what helps them cope… and to belittle others, because caregivers didn’t think to ask WHY they are (were) using nicotine (or any other substance), didn’t trouble themselves to seek answers to all the possibilities of underlying issues? Is this the best we can do? Really?
Promoting Bullying
At the beginning of the year, The City of Jacksonville, Florida launched a $200,000 campaign, deciding it was a healthy approach to encourage children to stigmatize, demonize, and bully other children.
Mayor Lenny Curry stated, ironically: “This isn’t about shaming young people,” said Mayor Lenny Curry. This isn’t about putting them down” and more in this article. I’ll let you decide if it isn’t about encouraging the shaming of others.
They released this video:
Exploiting Children
How about tasing kids?
This summer in Maryland, use of force on teenagers by police included one teen being tased, tackled, and hogtied by police. Another teen already on the ground was kneed by an officer.
How about photos under a bathroom stall?
In Auckland, New Zealand, a principal of a school was photographed peering under stalls in the bathroom “in order to be assured it is a healthy and safe environment for our students and staff” she said.
Still agreeable to the atrocious behavior displayed by the adults?
Would a complete misdiagnosis have occurred had it not been for propaganda?
I’ll repeat this: “There has been speculation that Kyle’s brain injury was due to a reaction from nicotine, but the autopsy showed that no nicotine was present in his system.” A child died due to deliberate #propaganda.
“Recently in Twin Falls, a teen was allegedly pulled into the office of an establishment and questioned by the owner over vaping in the bathroom.” Is this acceptable? That’s here.
“These devices are so easy to conceal, so one of the thoughts we had was, well … if they have enough metal components … would a wand work?” Carlson said.
Research shows @ParentsvsVape, @truthinitiative, & @TobaccoFreeKids sociopolitical opinions increase voyeurism, restricting bathroom access, dropping pants, brute force & tasing as socially acceptable punishments for children caught vaping by 100%.
They’ve utilized physical, psychological, sociopolitical, and psychotic measures. They’ve installed ‘vape’ detectors to try to catch those pesky 11% who have vaped once in the past 30 days, and the 3% of those kids (with allegedundeveloped brains) who actually vape daily, clearly, and quickly, have outwitted the adults.
Iowa’s Attorney General Tom Miller wrote, and I quote:
“The most intensive adolescent e-cigarette users are far more likely to also be smokers. They may potentially benefit from e-cigarette use. There is no ethical basis for ignoring public health harm reduction benefits to those under 18.”
Unpopular opinion: I am totally fine with vaping among teens. Nicotine is a performance-enhancer (like caffeine in many ways) and the fewer teens smoking cigarettes, the better for public health.They are practicing #harmreduction.
“How could the same compound associated with so much death and disease be so safe that you can buy it without a doctor’s prescription?” he asks. “The answer is that it’s about the delivery mechanism, not the drug.”
U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams faces charges in Hawaii after “a little bit of fun” while visiting a closed park in August with two others, violating COVID19 rules.
He “didn’t know“???
The article said Adams “didn’t know parks were closed“… but “provided a phone number” to the officer, “the same number Adams listed on an email to state officials seeking an exemption for Hawaii’s quarantine on arriving travelers.”
Interesting wording… the email – he provided – confirmed an exemption for quarantine for traveling – that included “links to rules”. Well… I didn’t see that juvenile behavior coming. Was he confused?
For some time, Adams has been pushing gaslighting the public to take personal responsiblity for stopping the spread of COVID19, tweeting “tips” such as “#COVIDStopsWithMe”. It seems he chose to ignore his ownadvice while traveling, opting for his original official statment, assuming immunity, deciding not to heed the emergency order.
Interestingly – at the bottom of the article, it states “According to the complaint, Adams put a mask on.”
He could have referenced the CDC website he linkedhere in early August about travel restrictions. (There’s a section covering “restrictions” here).He must not have thought to conduct a simple google search about Park Closure Hours. It boldly mentions, in red, at the top:
*City parks, botanical gardens, community gardens, certain park facilities, and beaches reopening Sept. 10, 2020 for individual activities in accordance with Emergency Order 2020-26.
But wait (bold/italics my emphasis), there’s more… To point out Jerry’s indifference… it says “the surgeon general was cited for accidentallyviolating the mayor’s emergency order, due to his misunderstanding of the law“.
Accidentally? Misunderstanding? Huh.
I’ll reference a quote from David Bachert:
“Well, when it happened “due to his misunderstanding of the law”, it would be best to lift the burden of the office from him, henceforth he might be able to commit himself to further studies of “the law” – or at least the content of e-mails he receives. #FireTheSG“
Covid19, and restrictions in place around the country aren’t something ‘new‘. While the city of Honolulu has issued “more than 10,000 such citations“, 2,203 were dismissed by June.
Wait, was Jerry confused?
If he’s confused, are we still expected to take his position or “advice” seriously? I’m not surprised Jerry doesn’t do his research, or that he is… well, it’s common knowledge Jerry doesn’t open emails. As much as he likes google, he didn’t take time to check?
Here’s my condensed version of just a few of Adams key sentences in a COVID19 press conference with President Trump earlier this year.
With a history of confusion, Jerry, as former Indiana State Health Commissioner – and in chargeof that state’s Tobacco Prevention and Cessation Commission, seemed stunned after reading “his own” latest Surgeon General ‘report’ on smoking. He stated “I didn’t even know until this report came out that you can add as much as 10 years, a decade, to your life expectancy by quitting smoking”.
What?
Now changed, this was his personal Twitter profile description at one time.
Do as I say, not as I do
It’s unnerving to see -0- accountability from the Surgeon General both personally and professionally, acting ‘unaware’ while misinterpreting data, science, and now laws the public he’s supposed to serve – are expected to abide by.
After breaking at least one law while sightseeing, he appeared at a news conference giving the public advice he didn’t heed himself:
“And to the people who are lapsing a little bit, I want you to understand that a little bit of fun right now can result in shutdowns further on down the road. It’s important that we all do the right things right now, even if we don’t feel we are personally at risk.”
The violation for “a little bit of fun” he mentionedreportedly can include “fines of up to $5,000, up to a year in jail, or both”.
I suggest both.
In the most basic observation of this puppet, I (rhetorically) wonder why the public health community is concerned about the public’s lack of trust in the people like Adams, who are ‘in charge’, and their inability to do their job(s) is questioned.
I’m also curious as to why Jerry didn’t take a selfie with the nice officer. I’ve repeatedly invited Jerry to be a guest on Smoke Free Radio to discuss a potpourri of subjects with Patrick and me.
To date, he has not responded.
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I can’t believe there is this much discourse about face masks.
What if, despite “expert” advice, simply suggesting wearing a mask may, could, might, or possibly reduce your risk from the other asymptomatic humans, and “flatten the curve”? To overlook deter something as simple (and inexpensive) as facemasks as part of the standing COVID-19advice to the public should be construed as negligence. Reasonable “explanations” for not wearing masks is quite frankly, worse.
I can’t believe there is this much discourse around the world about face masks.
So, while looking for the difference of ‘experts’ downplaying a need, increased hype against the need, and common sense for, or against wearing a mask for personal use, I’ve highlighted a Centers for Disease Control’s (CDC) preventive graphic: I see exposure, person to person, close contact, and finally, how droplets can… wait, let me get my mask.
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It’s personal.
For all intents and purposes, all humans have the same preventive goal: To protect our individual selves and the ones we love. To choose to wear a mask is a personal, individual choice. I’m all for it, and that. Wikipedia explains “Personal protective equipment (PPE) is protective clothing, helmets, goggles, or other garments or equipment designed to protect the wearer’s body from injury or infection.” To reduce risk of that which poses a threat. To minimize exposure. It doesn’t say it will work. I know less than you do about infectious diseases, and I can’t say you’ll wear a mask properly or if it will work. But……….
In densely populated (and worst hit) areas of the United States (think New York, you know, subways and stuff) I’ll ask again: What if, simply wearing a mask would achieve their slogan of “flatten the curve”? What if “they”, the chosen experts, are wrong?
“Tinfoil hat time”: What are they trying to hide? Why are they trying to hide it? Are they ignoring information for appearances? Do they want this pandemic to get worse?
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Creating fear?
Are masks unnecessary? Are they purposely downplaying the need? I’ve seen ‘higher risk’ groups singled “stigmad” out (yep, made it up) because of age, alcohol use, being overweight, smokers, vapers, and more. To gaslight “groups” of people claiming they are at a higher risk is idiotic. I can only think that narrative would give anyone not in that group a false sense of security. I also think well, gee, those people should be wearing masks!
If you’re old enough to remember, this is how AIDS ideology, stigma, and discrimination was fueled. You’d THINK “Public Health” would learn.
Interestingly, Twitter just released guidelines saying : “Claims that specific groups, nationalities are never susceptible to COVID-19″ and on my point, bold being my emphasis again: “Claims that specific groups, nationalities are more susceptible to COVID-19″… that’s found here. I hope it extends to other false narratives.
I stated on Twitter: “Someone tell me ‘I’m’ wrong.”: (this includes you!) “*Everyone* has the exact same RISK of #COVID19. Washing hands, social distancing, less exposure, reduces RISK. Exposure is the risk, anyone *having it* who also suffers from chronic disease MAY, could, or might have more detrimental outcomes.”
Remember the CDC graphic above? The best way to prevent illness is to avoid being exposed to this virus. I don’t find it unreasonable to utilize a mask as a preventable measure. What if it helps….
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Don’t wear a mask?Says W.H.O.?
Why not? The World Health Association (W.H.O.) says if you’re healthy, only wear a mask if you’re attending to anyone suspected of a COVID-19 infection. Well that’s odd. I suspect anyone is licking toilet seats or not washing their hands are suspect, but I can’t tell those humans apart from the ones that don’t. Also, those telling you and me what we can, cannot personally ‘do’ are by all accounts, suspect. It’s a thing with me.
Masks should be worn by health care providers who manage #COVID19 patients in health facilities. Masks are also important for people w/ symptoms or those caring for them. Irresponsible use of masks by those who do not need them can be harmful & cause shortages for those in need. pic.twitter.com/u31rebIPbo
In the tweet above it states “Irresponsible use of masks by those who do not need them can be harmful”.
But… this, from October 2019 states: “
Recommended for symptomatic individuals, and conditionally recommended for public protection“, also “Given the costs and the uncertain effectiveness, face masks are conditionally recommended only in severe influenza epidemics or pandemics for the protection of the general population, but are recommended for symptomatic individuals at all times.”
Did I run out and purchase masks? No, but if you’re like me, you’re not randomly doing as you’re told. I’ll wear a bandana. Simple, makes me feel better. It’s a personal, individual choice. Besides, I don’t trust their advice on things I know, why should I trust them with things I don’t. I already suffer from borderline anti-public health ‘expert’ syndrome.
On February 29th, 2020, the U.S. Surgeon General stated scolded the public with all the professionalism in the world. He tweeted “Seriously people- STOP BUYING MASKS!“, I decided he’s marginalizing something bigger than he is – like his ego and narrative, and I’ll assume he’s wrong. What if he is?
How DARE (I) we humans question authority or think it (may, could) might be acceptable to think for ourselves, and by the way, Jerry… why are you taking the liberty of relinquishing Americans of their personal choice by demanding we do, or not do anything?
“The precautionary principle states we should sometimes act without definitive evidence, just in case…”
“The public” here are not volunteers in someone else’s experiment in a flu outbreak—they are people the world over who are trying to stay alive in a deadly pandemic.”
Is it me, or is it hard to fathom potential & devastating (hindsight in 2020 will be 20/20) there could ever be so much debate and professional division about masks?
“Covid19 has released global awareness about #PublicHealth, spotlighting & exposing unprepared experts who assume, correlate, fabricate,hypothesize, speculate & manipulate#data leveraging financial/political advantages against humans.
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Peeling off the mask
What about research, or data on masks vs no masks? Because I adore JoodiG, and because of what she (and Patty McNulty above her) said, I was intrigued. REDUCING RISK. Then of course, there’s that personal, individual choice again.
Even a home made mask reduces risk. It doesn’t eradicate it, but that’s what harm Reduction is all about – Reducing RISK. People deserve to receive honest, evidence based information. @JeromeAdamsMD do your damn job! https://t.co/o4f4Fvhngh
— JoodiG 🙋🏼♀️ (FFP2/3 masks work) (@JoodiG) March 28, 2020
Are public health “leaders” trying to make us “look like” we’re not panicking to the rest of the world? We’ve already bought all the toilet paper, is wearing masks considered taboo in the USA? Is it that the government was already in an unprepared en mass position, and the public depleted the normal needed stock of masks too quickly? I’ll get back to that link JoodieG shared shortly below… and hey, thanks for hanging with me.
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I have to ask, what about the flu?
What about wearing masks for flu season(s)… what does the Centers for DISEASE control say about that? Well…. interestingly…
I do like to fact check, so off I go… where one tab becomes three, and five… and wait a minute.
So, what about the flu… well… This got my attention. Sherif Mossad, MD isn’t a political or governmental public health figure, he is an infectious disease specialist. At the Cleveland Clinic. Wait, now when flu season is in, why are we not being told to wear masks? I’ll let you ponder that as this paragraph comes to a non-conclusional (Yep, made that one up myself as well) close.
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Someone’s lying, or someone isn’t telling the whole truth, so because I like to poke Jerry… the expert.
Hiya, Jerry. Are you an infectious disease specialist?
Is denying an honest conversation about masks worth your #feelings and above #publichealth?
Look at the graphic again, and look at what Jerry said.
Popular (Twitter) hashtags about this subject are #masksforall and #masks4all.
The link to the article (graphic) in my above tweet is here.
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Points, counterpoints.
For time and space, you can click here for this tweet, and it will open to a continuous ‘thread’ of other related tweets from this and other users. Also, as always, I highly suggest joining Twitter (There’s that personal, individual choice again.)
For the @nytimes, I wrote about why health authorities telling people they didn't need masks, and, besides they wouldn't wear them right, misfired and maybe even fueled hoarding. There will be many painful truths, and we need to learn to talk about them. https://t.co/vGF5UZdpPnpic.twitter.com/vBhEbS2rJk
Obviously, healthcare workers should get priority on the appropriate masks because they – are – at the highest risk for exposure.
That said, how about Mrs. Johnson down at your local brick and mortar? She’s exchanging your money in face to face transactions tirelessly, because she is an essential worker. How, if anyone can not show symptoms immediately, can they know they’re contagious? Does anyone not deserve a mask in face-to-face transactions? As much as I like Mrs. Johnson, if neither of us are wearing masks as a preventative measure and she’s asymptomatic, and I come home to my grandson…
Masks allow the user to reduce their risk. Also, see harm reduction, and there’s that personal, individual choice again.
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Remember JoodiG’s tweet?
Do you know why I’m the guy who asked all the annoying questions in class? Because either I didn’t understand it, and/or others were afraid to ask. Yeah, that was me.
Here’s the US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health (NCBI link) JoodieG referred to above in her tweet.
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I’m just a human being wondering how big a failure this could be, and what else they are already not doing.
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Yep, I still can’t believe there is this much discourse about masks. My disclaimer? I’m not an expert. I can only read, comprehend, and decide for myself and my family. Your personal decision to buy, make, and wear, or not wear masks is your decision. From a social distancing standpoint, and human interaction, You do you, I’ll do me.
I hope and predict(see same-day update from the Washington Post below) masks will be suggested soon by U.S. officials with some excuse that new data has come out, they didn’t know, without admitting a failure, by pointing fingers at the public – in the ‘we didn’t plan to have enough’ chain of events that will unfold in disbelief, right before our open, gaping, uncovered mouths… I mean, eyes.
Please, don’t hold your breath, I’ve been wrong before. The one thing I am confident in? Trust, but verify.
They could be right, I advise to ALWAYS question public health “experts”, and wash your hands. Masks are optional and, that advice, of course, is a personal, individual choice for you to make. Or not.
Be well.
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UPDATE:
President Trump was asked about masks today 3/30/2020 (the same day as this blog). His remarks are below, and on this tweet with the question starting at the 46:36 time mark.
The question (and response) was:
Reporter: “Scott Gottlieb, your former FDA Commissioner wrote a roadmap for recovery after the coronavirus. President Trump: Very interesting I saw it. Reporter: He suggests, the roadmap suggests that everybody wear a mask in public. Is that something that the task force – thinks is a good idea?”
President Trump: “We haven’t discussed it to that extent… but it’s certainly something we could discuss. We’re getting certainly the number of masks that you need. We are in the process of talking about things, I saw his suggestion on that, so we’ll take a look at it, for a period of time, not forever I mean you know we want our country back.”
He went on to say “We’re not going to be wearing masks forever but it could be for a short period of time after we get back into gear. People could, I could see something like that happening for a period of time. But I would hope it would be for a very limited period of time. Doctors, they’ll come back and say for the rest of our lives we have to wear masks.”
HUH.
I found this from the Washington Post late this evening:
Now it’s being considered…..
“according to a federal official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because it is an ongoing matter of internal discussion and nothing has been finalized.”
YES! Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good! See study by Myers & Co. @US_FDA! All refs for modeling parameters given👇. Even 50% compliance with low-filtration (ill-fitting) surgical masks reduce flu transX by 42% (fig1d). #COVID19 is at least as contagious as flu. https://t.co/r9h9Jfaokgpic.twitter.com/FYNqTe9eI1
— Prof. Dr. Benhur Lee, MD 🦠🧬🔬 (@VirusWhisperer) March 30, 2020
“Guidance needs to change and needs to be clear that these nonmedical, nonsurgical masks are beneficial to the general public and should be worn when outside of the home,” said Robert Hecht, a professor of epidemiology at the Yale School of Public Health.
You can hear sensible advice from the question about #MasksForAll at about 1:05:50, @Surgeon_General .@JeromeAdamsMD, and LOOK at her excitement as she was asked & answered the question *and her profession*.
Dr. Birx: Masks: “It’s just being considered by the task for now about whether that (CDC) recommendation that already exists relevant to to wearing masks should be altered in any way so it’s still under discussion.”
From an NPR interview of the head of the CDC. Translation from Orwellian bureaucratic gobbledigook: "We misled you. Wear a mask." pic.twitter.com/smEugkGxDB
Encourage the Public to Wear Masks. “There is emerging evidence that asymptomatic and presymptomatic transmission of COVID-19 is possible,18 which complicates efforts to pursue case-based interventions. To reduce this risk during Phase I, everyone, including people without symptoms, should be encouraged to wear nonmedical fabric face masks while in public.19 Face masks will be most effective at slowing the spread of SARS-CoV-2 if they are widely used, because they may help prevent people who are asymptomatically infected from transmitting the disease unknowingly.
Face masks will be most effective at slowing the spread of SARS-CoV-2 if they are widely used, because they may help prevent people who are asymptomatically infected from transmitting the disease unknowingly. Face masks are used widely by members of the public in some countries that have successfully managed their outbreaks, including South Korea and Hong Kong.20 The World Health Organization (WHO) recommended members of the public use face masks in the event of a severe influenza pandemic.21
"If you're going to wear a face covering, please try not to touch your face… please save the N95 for healthcare workers…wearing a face covering does not mean you don't have to practice social distancing." — U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams pic.twitter.com/YfCNzcpwgc
What about this? Why isn’t this part of flu ‘season’ messaging?
“Our findings suggest that a homemade mask should only be considered as a last resort to prevent droplet transmission from infected individuals, but it would be better than no protection.”
“If, in fact, a person who may or may not be infected wants to prevent infecting someone else, one of the best ways to do that is with a mask,” Fauci told CNN’s Jim Acosta. “So perhaps that’s the way to go and again, I say Jim, that’s under very active consideration. As I say, we’ll be discussing it today, this afternoon, at the task force meeting.”
A second motion was passed that included the mandate for all Laredoans to begin wearing protective face masks, or “nose to mouth” covers. That includes any type of fabric, scarf, or bandana.
While a “6” foot rule has been established, this shows the “Virus was widely distributed on floors, computer mice, trash cans, and sickbed handrails and was detected in air ≈4 m from patients.”
That’s 13.1234 FEET. Will they update it?
“positivity was relatively high for floor swab samples”…
“Because patient masks contained exhaled droplets and oral secretions, the rate of positivity for those masks was also high (data not shown). We recommend adequately disinfecting masks before discarding them.”
President Trump asked to have a conversation with public health and vaping industry organizations. The purpose of the meeting was to get “representatives of the Vaping industry, together with medical professionals and individual state representatives” to “come up with an acceptable solution to the Vaping and E-cigarette dilemma. Children’s health & safety, together with jobs, will be a focus!”, according to his tweet.
If the President invited me to sit face to face with him along side of those who may not agree with science and data I’d be explaining, I’d certainly read the invite and be prepared to… Well, I’d take reasonable steps above and beyond to accommodate – by offering an acceptable, comprehensivesolution he was asking for.
Now, remember, dear reader – he specifically said “come up with an acceptable solution” in his purpose, so there may be a test.
For public health, seasoned representatives were there, some with 30 or more years in their position. They need less than two sentences of attention from me, and <—these were it.
Also included in the meeting were were Mitt Romney, Joe Grogan, Kelly Ann Conway, Health and Human Services (allegedly unbias and science-based) Secretary Azar among others.
The other side (with the exception of Juul) representing mostly small businesses (who represent consumers) were also seasoned representatives. Scott Eley, Gregory Conley, Tony Abboud, Reynolds, Njoy, at least one rep for convenience stores, and Americans for Tax Reform.
The President didn’t wast time. He was inquisitive with everyone, asking for, but not always listening to solutions as a response to his questions. Public health group responses to his questions were the same, with variations, referring to his decision from September 11th to ban all flavors except tobacco. The other group, except for one, contributed to the conversation with solutions.
Freedom of choice for millions of ex-smokers and the ability to navigate that right with flavors were the literal discussionin the White House. The conversationjust changed for access to less harmful alternatives on a national scale.
Until now, we have NEVER had a seat in front of the President of the United States. WOW. I don’t think he knew (we, the people) less harmful alternativesexisted until he flew over us on November 9th of this year.
WE the people exposed “Public Health” by applying both social and political pressure and offering solutions “they” could not come up with 👉 in front of sitting President.
Timeline:
With more than a decade of use by consumers, science and data (links to that are all over this blog), a decade of advocacy groundwork had also been laid long before I came along in 2014.
Summer- 2019: Unscrupulous “health” organizations took an opportunity to falsely blameillness and deaths on legal vaping products. In fact, “samples from 29 patients with “EVALI submitted to CDC from 10 states found vitamin E acetate in all of the samples.” Vitamin E acetate was used in THC-containing products. (Link to source)
September 9th: The First Lady (Flotus) tweeted concern of an “epidemic of e-cigarette use in our children”.
September 10th: In the early morning (6:54 AM) hours, gazillionaire Bloomberg announced he was spending $160M on an initiative with Tobacco-Free Kids to ban flavored e-cigarettes
September 10th: Later that day, Flotus tweeted a Washington Post article at 12:03 P.M. (Yes I noticed the times on Bloomberg and Flotus’s tweets)
September 11th: Secretary Azar announces he will be “finalizing policies that will clear flavored e-cigarettes from the market.”
September 13th: President Trump tweeted: “While I like the Vaping alternative to Cigarettes, we need to make sure this alternative is SAFE for ALL! Let’s get counterfeits off the market, and keep young children from Vaping!”
September 18th: small businesses of Vapor Technology Association went to Washington, D.C. with solutions in hand to representatives.
September 18th: Paul Blair explained voters are clearly an issue for the President.
Frustrated consumers & business owners already tweeting and calling the White House in opposition of a flavor ban, and these efforts became more intense.
November 1st, Trump announced the ban of flavors the following week.
November 4th, “White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) canceled all remaining meetings with stakeholders” as Jim McDonald reported here, and Dimitris Agrafiotis tweeted here.
Saturday – November 9th – two months after the First Lady tweeted her first concerns, WE, chose to exercise our freedom of assembly in our nation’s capital. We, the people didn’t just go to Washington, D.C., we were standing in our own yard.
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November 11th:
TWO days after the rally. Coincidence? I think not.
NO one could have predicted this. Bright and early on November 11th, at 9:00 AM, we knew were being listened to.
I’m poaching Schell Hammel’s words: This was a defining moment.
The President of the United States tweeted:
“Will be meeting with representatives of the Vaping industry, together with medical professionals and individual state representatives, to come up with an acceptable solution to the Vaping and E-cigarette dilemma. Children’s health & safety, together with jobs, will be a focus!”
Finally, on November 22nd, President Trump met with various invited groups and gave them an opportunity, *asking* for solutions.
While you and I can agree or disagree with finer points and details of the conversation, representatives invited from the vaping industry (except for Juul), didoffer solutions. After all, we were having a conversation with the President. I had -0- concerns for who kept their composure in the face to face with those trying to take our freedoms away, and those offering solutions for me in front of President Trump.
These people were fighting most importantly, for millions of former smokers and future smokers who have the human right to CHOOSE the option of flavors and the right to less harmful products. They were also fighting for thousands of small businesses, thousands more of their employees, customers (you and me), and more employed in various ancillary functions.
WE WERE CHANGING THE CONVERSATION INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE.
We were offering SOLUTIONS inside the WHITE HOUSE.
Sorry I yelled. No I’m not.
This was a defining moment.
The eyes of the world were upon us. Again. Here are key personal takeaways from this historical meeting:
Thirteen days after the vaping community and the world watched the Washington, D.C. rally on November 9th, the whole world waited in anticipation to see this meeting unfold.
President Trump wasn’t operating in a bubble. He was concerned, he was engaging. For a change, we weren’t in facing a one-sided wall of resistance. The media couldn’t report it the way they wanted to. No press could spin or invert the narrative of one side. We all witnessed the same exchanges.
We were not being told we only had three minutes. Instead, we publicly voiced concerns and were offering solutions with an opportunity that has been actively foughtfor years – represented in the highest office in the land.
WE were well-prepared with answers.
We were articulate with safety and standards
We were armed with data, science, and solutions.
Public health (“they”) didn’t present answers. They presented the same narrative – that children are breaking laws, and proposed absolute bans.
Trump DID ask great questions. He was attentive, and at times, curious. At one point he asked:
“If we take out flavors, won’t they just be made illegally?”
Tony Abboud “this is the new vapor industry, not the old tobacco industry”.
It was CLEAR Trump understood THC deaths and illnesses ARE a separate issue.
Like it (I don’t) or not, “Tobacco 21” looks like it will be law of land – eventually. Trump leaned in and it said, “we need to do that”.
He did NOT like the idea of a ban with valid fears of a black market – and kids doing what kids may do. He understood while kids are an issue, adults are an issue. He asked very specific questions – he asked from a business point of view.
Because President Trump didn’t like a black market, he also quickly realized the “public health” representatives were parroting his words and did not have a solution.
Importantly, President Trump asked questions about less harm. Gregory Conley explained it to him.
President Trump reiterates his understanding by giving Tony Abboud a chance to speak.
He understood flavors.
He was looking for and likes to know about:
Economical impact.
Job numbers. Employment.
He understands math and votes.
Now, he also understands adult access.
Trump understands safety. Secretary Azar mentions “health claims” at the end – and lies, stating there is “no evidence” (Yes there is – Gottlieb spoke about this, so has Azar) (there is plenty) and they will go after companies who make those claims.
Trump seemed painfully aware of the body parts groups focusing on the children™ without any substance. His question asked for their solution.
This time there was no controlled environment – no national stage to speak and walk away from. It wasn’t just their narrative. They were – for the first time in history-not in charge or control of the conversation.
See, the thing about the industry representatives is – they were listening. They were interacting with the President. Those allegedly representing “public health“, political front group NGOs were not listening. They simply waited to reply to him. If data, science, or less harmful alternatives was mentioned – they tried to drown it out by repeating various angles of their nursery rhyme – “Think of the children”™.
By the reaction and follow up questions by President Trump, it seemed he was well aware of their tactics. It seemed each time he asked any of the “health” body parts groups for a solution, he received the same scripted answers and reactions (in no particular order):
If smokers and less harmful alternatives are brought up: “Everyone talk at once“!
Drown out and talk over anything to do with harm reduction, data, science, law, or jobs
Adhering to and referring Trump to his original plan of bans made them look arrogant and unprepared. He already changed his mind once. By using that strategy – in my opinion – it showed their only motive and insulted his intelligence. We all know who they are.
In fact, as I watched – “their” strategy, I couldn’t help thinking their approach was narrowly thought out. After all the years of doing what they do, they never had and didn’t prepare, a concrete solution. Confident in advance, they didn’t think it was necessary for any solution but their own. They didn’t need – forgive me for the gratuitous pun – an alternative solution. What exactly is it they “do” again? They don’t have answers.
We were prepared, articulate, and brought multiple solutions to the table.
I don’t recall political front groups mentioning or demanding cigarettes come off the market immediately.
We all know we got exactly what we expected from the body parts groups. That doesn’t matter. The focus on harm reduction, of insane policies being proposed, the exact same concern for children as the front groups have, and the importance of flavors became clearer to President Trump – as long as we were heard over their incessant chanting.
So what will come of this meeting?
In no particular order:
Did the stance of the one-sided morality crusade persuade President Trump once he heard both sides?
Did we raise and a much larger concern in his mind for public health, freedom of individual choices for less harmful products, and is there hope for the process of democracy in our county?
Can there be change in restrictive local/state regulations?
Are we able to say we’ve changed the conversation nationally?
Will this change the course of the industry and harm reduction?
Will the alleged “health” groups stop denying science and data?
This photo was blatantly poached, snagged and stolen from one of these two attorneys for the purposes of this blog.
I hope I don’t miss anyone participating in this meeting, but I want to thank (in no particular order):
Every single one of you, who called the White House, tweeted, hash-tagged, made some noise… (and will continue to do so!), and all who have come before us, to advocate for less harmful choices to smoking.
@realDonaldTrump, a man who’s never smoked a cigarette, spends the time to make sure that his Administration gets the policy right for the American people. As usual. pic.twitter.com/OkDzkr9cBA
Not only did they not want cigarettes banned @VapinGreek they offered zero solutions to the real problem! Just proves more that it never was about the youth! @realDonaldTrump asked for solutions! They answered with prohibition! Even when he said it would create a larger BM! https://t.co/UYBxJ6VqiI
While we can all armchair quarterback and “would’ve / could’ve” this meeting until the cows come home… I am proud of the ruckus, I am hopeful there will be more meetings with President Trump and urge him to take positive steps to change national conversationswith consumers – our voices, represented by CASAA. We need to continue to CHANGE the conversation daily. To be louder. To show up at hearings. ALL the stuff you already know.
You can watch the complete coverage of President Trump’s discussion unfold here.
Run-on sentence alert bonus:
If you told me back on May 23rd of 2013 I would create a blog, author a survey, email & call local, state and federal officials, tweet like a madman, participate in state organization meetings, come to despise and distrust what I thought was the epitome of “public health“, travel to Milwaukee, Wisconsin to see a 1 1/2 hour movie, make friends around the country and worldwide, publicly challenge the claim of addiction to nicotine, travel to Washington D.C. to rally against my own government to protest a ban less harmful products because officials calling themselves “public health” demanded it, and then see some of those people I admire take a seat at the table with the President of the United States because my wife and I quit smoking… I’d have told you to pound sand.
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Marylin
Something like this always brings me back to where I need to be, fighting for the choice of consumers. It reminds me of Fiamma Palermo (Karen Lee) a few years ago, who used the #ImProof hashtag.
This young lady declares her right is her right to choose, and questions accountability. More of this please. I must admit, I’ve got a crush on Marylin. I’m smitten. Not sure if my wife will voluntarily move out, though.
Mark Slis (Scientist & Vape Shop Owner)
Another consumer, and more. I’ll let him explain it during his testimony after driving over 500 miles to do it.
Compliance Checks
Meanwhile, as Marilyn eloquently stated above, underage children are still breaking the law. Meanwhile, retail stores are still breaking the law.
James Jarvis shared a post on his Facebook page showing the latest current numbers of “compliance checks”. Then, he asks a question.
He did my homework for us, so I stole his post. (Thanks James!)
Year to date FDA Inspection data total US…
Total Inspections: 102,032 Total fails for Ends: 4,212 10 fails were for selling Logic to minors 22 fails were for selling Njoy to minors 84 fails were for selling Mark 10 to minors 499 fails were for selling “other” to minors 748 fails were for selling Blu to minors 1407 fails were for selling Vuse to minors 1442 fails were for Juul to minors Total fails for vape shops: 212 Total fails for smoke and vape shops: 82 *619 of the fails had civil money penalties (so multiple offenses)
Breaking down Ohio: Total Fails for Ends: 177 Ohio Vape Shop fails: 3 ( same store failed 2 times)
Then he asked: “Tell me again where the youth are getting their vape products?”
It is not all roses and candy in Michigan… Rep. Johnson got on “Mr. Eliquid’s” website… and made a determination.
More of that responsibility, lawmakers!!!
This is awesome. Democrat Rep Cynthia Johnson tries to purchase eliquid from a shop in Michigan with a fake account, and was REJECTED. She then went on to praise Mr. Eliquid “…you are NOT marketing to children”. There’s only one company to blame for the youth issue, & ITS JUUL. pic.twitter.com/GubnHwKtyB
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Flavored E-Cigarette Bans Propagate America’s War On Drugs
VITN Rules…. with Michael McGrady:
“Moral panics, in turn, pave the way for “endgame” drug control policies. The war on drugs also has a history of pushing ultimatums to achieve policy goals.”
Another scare story tried to rear its ugly head this past week. While illegal THC products are giving the “anti’s” fictitious and strong momentum, they’re looking at ALL angles of decimation of a less harmful product.
We’re already looking for all we can know about e-cigarettes. Do you know why? We’re tired of everyone being lied to. Because we’re the stakeholder in the equation. You’re not.”
Both Whitmer & Cuomo wants flavors banned. I’ve heard it may be because adults don’t like flavors! Neitherdo Senators.
“They want to regulate, restrict, tax and ban less smoking.” Think about it.
Governors, like Cuomo, seem to like tobacco-flavored non-governmental organizational front group flavored lollipops.
Governor Whitmer, seen here enjoying a house full of flavored ice cream, beer, pastries, cookies, donuts, coffee and gasp, flavored cheese, does not like flavors either.
In fact, I’m under the impression she really likes flavors, including cherry, blueberry, and raspberry pie, but doesn’t want Michigan folks to have those same freedoms.
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Just from the title – do you honestly need to read it? Rules are rules. Michelle Minton.
Understanding Nicotine, Stigma, and Public Health’s Use of Scare Tactics
Good or bad, I want to know the truth, you want to know the truth. Wait, I just said that.
“I, with the those mentioned or interviewed, stand to believe that one of the most reliable tools in the tobacco harm reduction toolbox is accurate information.”
Speaking of evidence, with this link, it isn’t the link. It’s the PDF within.
Things like this catch my eye:
“The same review suggested that if the rate of successfully quitting in a population without any assistance is 2-3 percent, the rate would only increase by 3-5 percent even if everyone used NRT. In fact, in order to produce only one additional successful cessation from tobacco, 56 people would need to be treated with NRT. “
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Vaping Taxes Tempt States but Bring Challenges
“National cigarette sales dropped 41% between 2001 and 2017, according to data from the Federal Trade Commission.” “
Prepare yourself for the anti-tobacco crowd claiming false heroism and creative math for dropped smoking rates with useless tactics.
With an obvious play with math and dates, the “41%” stated in the article below is between 2001 and 2017. I haven’t deciphered it – but I’m very confident the bulk of that drop started after 2009, as the graphic shows below.
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The Corporate Wolf in Public Health’s Clothing
Danielle Jones breaks down a few of the finer points of corruption, front groups, government, politics, science, and trust – with a flair all her own. It’s for your own good.
The “Master Settlement Agreement” is a contract. It creates revenue. For government and HEALTH organizations. From smokers. Buying cigarettes. Repeatedly. Never expires. Vaping is bad. In other words, please, keep smoking, we need the money.
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The 2018 American Teen Vaping Epidemic, Recalculated
Smoking is a government-run business. You people need to stop quitting smoking before they go out of business.
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The U.S. FDA’s “keep smoking we need the money” train involves predictions and profit.
So far, government, public “health” groups, researchers, tobacco “control” & other funded “experts” have record losses totalling $72.96 Billion dollars in 11 short years.
Imagine if you will, a chance to use research to improve… oh never mind. “Non-Profit” groups abusing children as pawns in anti-ecig propaganda is child abuse.
The link to this idiotic article below uses a (recommended) “do not link” to prevent (it) from improving their websites’ position in search engines.
Less smoking is concerning for at least 6 “health” groups
It seems “less smoking” is a concern – and an investigation is warranted. Of course…
Their problem? The “unauthorized” claims that the company’s e-cigarettes help users stop smoking. I remember one of the brilliant ads showing “Quit. Start smoking again“. Thirty times. Why? Because it’s truthful on the average number of times smokers try to quit (here). Brilliant. That you’ve allegedly pissed off your secret partners with Tobacco-Free Kids? Even though I despise you, well done, Juul.
These groups aren’t going after the companies making “authorized” government “approved” claims of patches or gums being “helpful” to smokers, unethically, and more specifically, from themselves? They’ve known these facts since at least 2002.
Even Stan “Stuff & Puff” Glantz “believes” nicotine replacement therapy “should only be available if the smoker commits to regular counseling to use it properly”. He states in the same article “The tobacco companies are generally 20 or 30 years ahead of the public health community in their thinking about their issues”… which gives me a whole lot of nope trusting an alleged “expert” with 30+ years playing one around the country.
I don’t use the “do not link” for this one – because I want them to know where this hit comes from. I also enjoy it when I get hits from them on occasion. (“Hi, Matt!”)
LOTS of “nicotine” “can hurt” the “adolescent brain” lately… up to 25 years old I’ve seen, heard, read about 7,000 times.
“Wait a second. . . . Nicotine does not interfere with cognitive ability.” ~ Dr. Nora Volkow of the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) in 2014.
While I don’t normally tweet or blog about pot – (nothing against it, I’m an old former stoner from the 80’s) – this one – liner gem was hidden in this 2014 article.
43 People Indicted for Bank Fraud, $30M in Cigarette Trafficking in Virginia
Imagine buying a legal product, and reselling the same legal product in another state. The government doesn’t like you stealing the money they’re already trying to steal. Oh, and there is no black market.
Dave did it, again – this time explaing the eloquent ~ebb & flow~ of “expertise” tightly wrapped up inside the… oh never mind this is a family tweet. GO READ DAVE’S STUFF NOW!!!
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With all the rhetoric since DECEMBER, In the “youth use” arena, this chart came up… with “never smoking” adolescents in the U.S.A..
They asked and separated daily use. Why are they still withholding pertinent information while basing an “epidemic” on incomplete and unreleased information?
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