Dr. Gottlieb of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) tweeted “e-cigs can help currently addicted adult smokers quit; and improve their health.” If you had internet connection issues yesterday, it may have been jolting shocks of horror from ‘experts’ seeing what he tweeted.
This isn’t the first reference to less harm, Dr. Gottlieb has passivelystated in the past: “If you could take every adult smoker and fully switch them to e-cigarettes, that would have a substantial public health impact”. He’s also stated:
“E-cigarettes may present an important opportunity for adult smokers to transition off combustible tobacco products and onto nicotine delivery products that may not have the same level of risks associated with them.” (Source)
That’s pretty big news no one is hearing over the incessant chanting from others. If a “substantial public health impact” is a goal, Dr. Gottlieb will have to speak up. (I can barely hear him.) How about, oh – I don’t know, maybe a press conference with a mandatory presence of the alleged “health leaders” for a start.
Dr. Gottlieb will have to speak up if a “substantial public health impact” is a goal:
In the four years (hard to believe, today) since the release of the results of my consumer survey, I have finally seen a credible and official statement saying “e-cigs can help currently addicted adult smokers quit; and improve their health.” from the Commissioner of the FDA.
This isn’t a secret. No one is listening. It’s something consumers have said all along.
Not only did he tweet those words, he also tweeted a follow-up about improved health.
I can’t be so arrogant to believe these tweets came from my urging, but I was shocked to read what Dr. Gottlieb said. Maybe he isn’t using his (this is funny) mute button! I’m skeptical, he’s at least tweeted it – with a comment about improving health. Twice. Vape shops are not permitted to say that. In my book, it’s better than a poke in the eye.
I can’t ask for… Wait, if the goal of reducing smoking is the goal, I’ll expect much more.
In my excitement, I mistakenly linked the Surgeon General from his personal account on a few nudges. However, I included him in other tweets in his “official” capacity. So far, no reference to this new study has been made from his personal or official account.
No “health group” has mentioned Alex Azar’s statement below. This information is NOT foreign to Dr. Adams or Dr. Gottlieb. They were present when U.S. Department of Health & Human Services Secretary Alex Azar spoke these words:
Those ‘experts‘ I referred to above? The horror must’ve made them leave early to grab their favorite flavored Starbucks coffee. With Gottlieb making a statement like he did, I was eager to see if the American Heart, Lung, Cancer, or even Tobacco-Free Kids may, might, or could have mentioned it.
In conducting a quick general twitter search for the article link and found –ZERO– mentions from those organizations front groups. So much for a public health impact.
If smoking is “the single largest preventable cause of death and illness in the world”… and all “health” organizations are about health, and improving health, then why does my pal DrMA below need to raise awareness of their omission a day after Gottlieb’s statement …
The headlines are wonderful, the truth is the average number of attempts for a smoker to stop is 30. The success rates of gums and patches are about 7%. The average success of e-cigarettes is 70% (low end), or more, and they know it, government funded research proves it. Downplaying it, giving it no attention isn’t informing the public. That doesn’t improve health.
Change The Conversation
It’s time for public health and politicians to make a decision:
They want less smoking, or they don’t.
They want less harm, or they don’t.”
CALL THEM OUT
If making public health a priority and “improving health” is their goal… With all we do know, EVERY single township, official, city, who have regulated, restricted or banned 18, 19, and 20-year-olds from less harm and choice should be questioned – having an opportunity to explain themselves.
EVERY news outlet should be screaming about improving health with e-cigarettes, and interviewing every single township, official, city, health group and expert in the area who restricted or banned those choices.
Consumers (like me) take it upon themselves to blog, tweet, write their representatives out of passion and conviction. If I’m doing it wrong, I’m willing to learn.
This just happened. At least that’s what I heard. This is 2019. (“Hi, Fig”!)
These are the types of thing you may not be aware you, as a business, giving smokers a healthier option, are up against:
Sometimes I pick my battles carefully.
It’s time for vape shops/industry to make a decision as well.
I know, love, and respect some business owners who are fighting by themselves for their customers, and future customers, either through a local or state industry organizations. If you’re not aware, you’re not doing yourselves any favors.
If you are in business giving smokers a healthier alternative to smoking and don’t change the conversation quickly with local, state and national lawmakers…… ahh, who am I to say what you should do. After all, it is your business.
I would read about this (here and here, or listen to this man and act accordingly with any representatives about youth, adult choices less harmful products, and more here:
The Surgeon General wants everyone to nod in agreement on some things. While some of you may, some of you may want to turn your head – as I’ll be taking a different approach for this blog. Let the record show, I’m being *nice.
U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams,(MD) decided to clarify all things youth, e-cigarettes, and ‘epidemic’ on his personal Twitter account.
(All tweets below and his account are found here, or in replies, here)
I found it intriguing (as did others) he would take this route. Of course, a disclaimer on his personal twitter feed states, for safety: “Tweets/RT don’t represent endorsement or my employer.”
Before you choose to continue, please note
Fig Ramsey’s following two tweets.
There is no valid reason to threaten (adult) access to vaping products. There is no valid reason to threaten small businesses providing smokers the option of less harm.
Why is there is a risk of restricting, taxing, or banning less smoking in any form.
This was before the official announcement on Dec. 18th.
I thought teachers and parents couldn’t… but they’re everywhere… Think of the children™…
“Hard to obtain”
“Hard to use around adults”
“Few youth use any nicotine product (even cigarettes) daily”
( I thought they were “easy to conceal”, hiding them in plain site?)
🎯 Instead, let’s use past 30-day use as a better metric, showing “potential” to teachers and parents. Not only does it sound contrived, inflated potential is also scary.
While you ponder your denial of an epidemic coming up over the course of this blog, bring your nose closer to the screen. Sound out the words. Take your time. I had to!
🎯 Evidently, “Past 30 day use a better metric of youth use” gives a better potential to create an epidemic. Let’s move on.
But wait, that’s not the first time he said it.
He said it at 11:53 on the 8th of December here
And seemed like he copied and pasted himself again only four minutes later at 11:57, just a few minutes after the one just above.
🎯 Seeming indifference and denial is the biggest threat (not youth use).
Out of context, he’s referring to patches and other methods here.
🎯 1st tweet: Complete denial of the epidemic is the biggest threat to adult access. Complete denial. Huh.
🎯 2nd tweet: 30 day use (remember above) is a definitivemedically defined epidemic.
Again, below the “constant denial” is the biggest threat to less harm.
🎯 The second of the two is one of my favorite tweets. Feelings VS definitions on 30 day use.
Medical Definition of Epidemic:
“The occurrence of more cases of a disease than would be expected in a community or region during a given awareness.. A sudden severe outbreak of a disease such as SARS.” (Link)
The Carnival Barker’s definition of an “epidemic”
🎯 “If folks can’t accept using official medical / health definitions, then we can’t have a real discussion”. “
Medical Definition of Epidemic: The occurrence of more cases of a disease than would be expected in a community or region during a given time period. A sudden severe outbreak of a disease such as SARS. (Link)
🎯 Referring to an “epidemic” is a play on the word as an adjective, not as a noun. The bias of the definition “interpret data accordingly” and “metrics” – referring to 30-day use rather than ‘daily use’, as Clive described above, is propaganda.
Here, the “Primary threat” isn’t “him” or most public health advocates… it’s YOU.
🎯 He’s trying to help.
I’ll let you see the 3rd for yourself. Go on, now. Don’t be afraid.
Here’s sadly what happens when lack of information, education and contrived panics occur.
HE’s not talking about….limiting access.
🎯 Well – then there’s balance. But good luck!
On the third in this set, feelings, (not science or data) are bigger threat than anything he could ever say.
Below, his statement on the first tweet: vaping products work, but lack of balance is coming from “national sentiment”. Wait, sentimentis “an attitude, thought, or judgment prompted by feeling”.
The second, it seems what he posts is what the nation feels, or agrees with.
🎯 (Lots of obvious feelings, *oops I meant “science” in that Google alert on the third.) *I’m being nice.
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🎯 Now, he’s clear. Education and awareness . Can’t do much about the feelings of parents and communities. It’s out of his hands.
2nd: ALL must say and do their part to preserve this option. Huh.
Third, good luck (again!!!)
🎯 This ‘existential threat’ — is because of “continual refusal to acknowledge” thing is really… *getting on my nerves. (*I’m being nice.)
Trying to be funny with a pun. Uh oh, parents and teachers again.
WHAT are YOU doing to help?
🎯 I’m very *relieved the Surgeon General is not basing his findings on feelings. Wait! We can all work together. Uh oh, feelings are in the mix. Then, it’s not a threat. (*I’m being nice.)
Parents and teachers…. a showdown, and needing more acknowledgement is apparent.
🎯 In fact, we all need to work together, or there will be NO OTHER CHOICE from parents, communities, teachers to push for elimination.
1st tweet below – the reference (out of context) is about approved methods to quit smoking here, but is true for vaping products (and mentioned) as well.
Second – well… *careful what you threaten, above you said “the threat isn’t from Government”. (*I’m being nice.)
On the 1st below, as a consumer, I expect you to do your *job. The fact becomes opinion. (*I’m being nice.)
On the 2nd, the ‘debate’ is contrived by effort, not real interest. Name calling. Appropriate or not, public official: feelings. If feelings are hurt, please see here, or here…
🎯 On the third, it isn’t lessened, the chances of being “heard” remain the same.
🎯 The 1st below – “respectfully you still aren’t listing to (or ignoring)”
2nd: “lessens chances….”
🎯 3rd: I will keep calling a contrived set of monthly numbers a fraudulent and fabricated epidemic.
Finally a bit more of the feelings and name calling – meh. You are a public official.
For “credibility” the Surgeon General states publicly:
🎯 1/3rd youth who vape are vaping marijuana”.
Wait, the monthly ‘epidemic’ numbers are 1/3rd marijuana use? Wait, one-third of the monthly numbers are not “nicotine”? And “advocates” are expected, threatened and almost demanded to “acknowledge concern” and *admit there’s a problem? (*I’m being nice.)
The office of the Surgeon General states “Surgeon General provides Americans with the best scientific information available on how to improve their health and reduce the risk of illness and injury.”
(*Updated* 1/29) In the duties of providing the “best scientific information available”, this is where he doesn’t in his role as Surgeon General.
Instead, opinion. Again.
Stated in one of the tweets above “complete switch to ecigs better than smoking many times”. So far, the Surgeon General has chosen to “dutifully”, unequivocally, with prejudice, advocate the regulation, restriction, tax, and ban of what is a far less harmful product.”
I once admired “authority figures”. I presumed I was always being told the truth by those holding offices, titles, and degrees. Then, by accident, I didn’t smoke anymore. Slowly, over time, I’ve found appearances, power, prestige, fancy titles, and proof by assertion from those in charge – *demand respect rather than earning or deserving it. (*I’m being nice.)
For me to subscribe to anyone coerced into submission, I’ll need to see facts first. In fact, I am concerned and want answers. In fact, I’ve been asking for answers. In fact, if I saw a concern:
In fact, to suggest “vapers” are not concerned or to accuse anyone of “not listening” or ignoring anything is *unprofessional and *childish. (*I’m being nice.)
I’ve been asking, and addressing this concern for some time.
Funny you *mention “indifference”. Along with others you are *berating, I have been “concerned”. (*I’m being nice.)
I asked the UCSF Children’s Medical Center for data.
In June of 2017I inquired with American Academy of Pediatrics President Collen Kraft.
In November 2018, I asked the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP).
For me, to “work” *together”, I’ll need to see more than claims of children consistently being “treated” for “nicotine addiction” and diagnosis of “brain damage” by pediatricians. I don’t find my request wanting case studies, data, progress, outcomes, results “unreasonable”. With a ‘meteoric’ rise, surely, these studies must exist. (*I’m being nice.)
I’ll need to see groups of children stealing patches and gums from Walgreens to get their nicotine. Those can be hidden from adults to satisfy the alleged “uncontrollable craving, seeking, and use of” nicotine in any and all forms.
“You don’t see nicotine junkies breaking into Walgreens to steal nicotine gum” ~ Aaron Biebert
“You should fight for your lives and your health. It is absolutely irresponsible and dangerous behavior to ban e-cigarettes.”
~ Dr. Farsalinos
From November 30th: “E-cigs and vaping as harm reduction not inherently a problem (though we need to continue research to ensure overall & max harm reduction)”………..
This is the only tweet I can see offhand worth its salt, and it is on his personal account, not the Surgeon General account.
Fig said it best:
🎯 “I blame Scott Gottleib and Jerome Adams & the multitude of other “leaders” of healthcare for their misinformation campaigns against vapor, for such vile lies that are coming out of our public health agencies. It’s zero wonder why public trust is fading.”
🎯 “Thousands of American vapor businesses are at risk of closing their doors & filing bankruptcy, because of the antics of Scott Gottleib & Jerome Adams.”
“Never stop fighting for what’s right”
~ Agent Ania
“If you see vaping consumer advocates constantly ranting on, it’s because we are trying to stop you lot fucking it up.”
~ Sarah Jakes
There’s only one solution – Unity and aggression.
~ECF, Oliver Kershaw
Let the record show, I’m being nice. Let parents and teachers do their jobs. I’ll suggest you man up and step up, or step aside, Dr. Adams. Otherwise, I’m a couple times behind on telling you to *kiss my ass. (*I’m being nice.)
This blog, because she liked snark, is dedicated to AgentAnia.