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A Threat to Public Health: Opinions.

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The latest “display of incompetence” award from a major health organization goes to Harold Wimmer, National President & CEO of the American Lung Association (ALA). Wimmer takes diligent care with his opinion to a recent New York Times article, “The Assault on Health and Safety Begins”.

In response to the article, Wimmer stated (underlining is my emphasis)

“Under the guise of reform, the House passed the Regulatory Accountability Act, giving polluters and the tobacco industry free rein to avoid meaningful oversight, regardless of the effect on the health of Americans.”


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Wimmer, in his opinion, believes

“common-sense steps under the Tobacco Control Act to protect children from flavored e-cigarettes and cigars would be halted in their tracks.”

The Tobacco Control Act already prohibits sales to minors (now that vaping products are deemed “nicotine” and therefore “deemed” tobacco).

He’s also concerned that

“Trying to mislead the public to believe that this so-called reform legislation will improve accountability is not only disingenuous, but also a direct threat to the health of our most vulnerable Americans.”


I’d like to focus on you, Mr. Wimmer, and your so-called accountability and disingenuous motive as a direct threat to the health of adult American smokers who trust your organization.

Thanks to you, valiant efforts to encourage Americans to keep smoking based on your opinion, is working. Be proud, Mr. Wimmer.



Invalid Concerns, Ulterior Motive

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According to the ALA website:

“The American Lung Association remains concerned about their impact on the public health, given the dramatic increase in use among youth.”

New Study Casts Serious Doubt on Claim that E-Cigarettes Lead to Youth Smoking

Instead, you should be focusing on

Smokers Who Switch to E-Cigarettes Exposed to Same Levels of Nicotine, Lower Carcinogen Levels

and this, among other things –

Lung function and respiratory symptoms in a randomized smoking cessation trial of electronic cigarettes.

Don’t get me started on nicotine.


The Litmus Test

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Under my scrutiny, MY opinion – the least of your concerns, Mr. Wimmer, are the millions of adult smokers reading your “insight” and continuing to use tobacco because you omit and fabricate information – in your opinion.

Imagine, if the focus of less tobacco use was obtained using a litmus test. Imagine if less tobacco use was the goal and the criteria was less harm.

You have a captive audience, and you are deceiving them with your bias opinion. You are violating the public’s trust. You do that well with Pfizer as a partner.

Instead of trying to “save lives by improving lung health and preventing lung disease, through research, education and advocacy”  – and “to eliminate tobacco use and tobacco-related diseases” you are lacking integrity by

Withholding differential risk information on legal consumer nicotine/tobacco products: The public health ethics of health information quarantines


Focusing on harm

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Imagine the steadfast opinions used for persuasion OF the public.

Merchants Of Doubt: How Public Health Uses Tobacco Tactics Against E-Cigarettes

Imagine placing the importance of fiscal health of an organization before public health so the public at large and unbeknownst to them faces settling for less.


Less Harm

Now, imagine the focus was just less smoking. Whether it would be snus, smokeless tobacco or e-cigarettes – and I’ll GIVE you the “government approved” traditional but much less effective options like the patch, gum, sprays or inhalers you promote.

Imagine if it included harm reduction.

Imagine 79% successful outcomes.

Imagine if you weren’t perpetuating the tragedy.


On the surface, with your title and contrived innuendo, are leading the public to believe you are “for the consumer”.

Mr. Wimmer, with your willful negligence by “trying to mislead the public to believe” your stance on “less tobacco use” – You and your organization are “a direct threat” to public health and smokers in the United States.



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Richard Marx: Hold on to the tweet.

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It seems Richard Marx has something to say to his fans about smoking and vaping. Marx, an iconic 80’s singer who filled the airwaves with hits like “Don’t Mean Nothing”, “Endless Summer Nights” and the ever popular “Hold On to the Nights”. Richard has a new single titled “Last Thing I Wanted”. The “last thing I wanted” was for Marx to pretend he’s an expert.

The explanation on Wikipedia does not mention that he’s a tobacco harm reduction expert. I however did notice he’s done some nice things along with benefit concerts for foundations, including the American Cancer Society on his biography page.

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That makes me suspicious. Are they calling you to do their dirty work? Are you that important?


Either way – it must not be common knowledge, but if you’re an ’80’s pop icon you evidently have the right to be a judgemental prick. He decided he would give his thoughts on smoking and vaping with an aggressive and condescending tone as if he knew what he was singing about on his twitter account.


Dick had another hit back then called “Should’ve Known Better” (really).

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That statement is

Unacceptable.

Period.


In this instance below – after seeing Dick’s tweet, I thought – huh – maybe he “doesn’t know any better”. Far be it for ME to try to correct a celebrity, or an expert of any kind.

I’m like Geraldo Rivera, I try to engage with thoughtful tweets

(I’m VapingIT, SPE) by asking the TOUGH questions:

NO response. I know he did. I’ve seen videos. I was a fan.


The “Last Thing I Wanted” was for him to misinform his followers with a sad attempt at stupidity.

He gave “advice” to Donna’s response as if he were an expert.

I tweeted at Donna… thinking – he can’t be that stupid. .

At times, I’m – shall I say – clever and thought – to further catch Dick’s attention – I’d use the title of his new song and hope his alleged 100,000 followers would see the much more pertinent video from A Billion Lives in the process. You know, engage him.


Then, to be SURE he wasn’t confused, I tweeted this thoughtful and deep tweet.

He didn’t feed into my bad behavior. (Behaviour for you across the pond.) Although not with me specifically, Dick engaged with a few comments with a few twitter members who are vapers, and blocked.

Updated 01/22/017: Richard deleted this tweet:

 

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But the text still shows up on my blog:

Ouch.

 

 

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I’m not sure if Robert (below) is a vaper, but he explains why Dick was having trouble briefly here:


People love 2 believe what’s convenient 4 them“, Dick.

Some think Dick may have realized the error of his ways….for smokers and possible future vapers.


Stop being an idiot, Dick. If you want to learn about vaping products, I’ll be “Right Here Waiting For You”.


 

Added 01/27/17

More on Dick here from :

Richard Marx hates my guts

 

For the “record”, Dick is singing a new tune, and among other tweets, deleted his tweet:

(https://twitter.com/richardmarx/status/821586521325084672)


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Dual Use. E-Cigarettes & Smoking. Shut UP Already.

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Dual Use. E-cigarettes & Smoking.

Can you use e-cigarettes and smoke? Why not? You can smoke and vape. In fact, I encourage it.

There’s a pendulum swaying in the media for “experts” to ride. No truth, mind you, they love speculation. What do they care, they’re gambling with YOUR lives, not theirs. The love/hate affair with tobacco and the tax revenue it brings for public health, government and organizations is pretty clear.

They are studiously defending their own infidelity by trying to find things to convince you you’re doing something wrong. Why? They’re trying to hide the clear and VERY public point of their irrelevance.  That’s why they want to regulate, restrict, tax & ban e-cigarettes.

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Wait….. a minute…………………

It defeated the purpose of the bill when they weren’t classified as tobacco???

….. read that again…

They are a bunch of lying bastards.

Stings, doesn’t it?

(They are now)


 Tobacco Control

Over 50 years of tobacco control hasn’t done what e-cigarettes are doing. They don’t like that kind of attention. They have agendas.

They’ll dote over children, then add in flavors. They talk about gateways. “Re-normalizing” smoking. They’ll spout off about the dangers of nicotine, they love to say “anecdotal” and and on occasion they like to toss in the “dual use” factor. For sport, I suppose. They have no integrity.


To have the “approved methods” and fail is fine-try harder – but don’t be a “dual user” with e-cigarettes! “Experts” don’t want dual users?

TOO BAD.
So WHAT.

Shut UP already!

Leave us ALONE.


From the Hungarian Situation Report.

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Some quit by default, some people just still like to SMOKE. Nothing wrong with that. That’s their CHOICE. They want to allude all the way to the tax collecting bank of your possible dual use as bad, that you may as well keep smoking.

(That keeps their revenue coming in.)

 


Dual Use:

In my view, is one of two things.

  1. You use both tobacco AND e-cigarettes because you like both and don’t want to stop your tobacco use.
  2. You haven’t found your “taste” and “strength” yet and until you do, will use both.

That’s it. There’s no “evil” of doing both. In fact, I encourage it for new vapers. Why?

 

It HELPS them!

 


You’re finding your way. Vaping is different from smoking.

Vaping CAN replace smoking – if you find your way with the right flavor, the right nicotine strength and the right style / generation of equipment you use, awesome. If it just doesn’t work, you’re one of the approximately 2% who said that in the first survey. It’s ok. The vaping community as a whole is not going to judge you.

Tobacco control experts may continue to scold you, though!


What’s wrong with dual use?

While you’re finding your way, please don’t listen to the “you’re a dual user, you may as well keep smoking” claims, it’s bullshit. If you do continue to smoke, PLEASE keep in mind. You are NOT a failure. I have believed all along the “approved” methods aren’t MEANT for you to succeed.

The Real Story Behind the Nicotine Patch and Smoking Cessation


Dual use in my surveys

In the first survey, I asked about dual use of e-cigarettes & smoking.

The first had 12%. In the second, I asked the same question.

Guess what, 12%.

In two separate surveys.


Does that mean I’m right? Well –  I’m asking vapers.

Who CARES?

The “experts” care, I suppose. Reducing smoking in any way should be the goal – if that were their GOAL.

They want you to “quit or die”.

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Nicotine Policy has their say here:

New research shows electronic cigarettes better for quitting, than no aid; over the counter NRT worse than no aid

Here, via Medical Press:

Switching from conventional to electronic cigarettes reduced toxicant exposure, even for dual users

Michael Siegel on Dual Use:

Important New Study Documents that Dual Use is Not a Negative Consequence of E-Cigarette Use, But a Positive One


Here, unedited – from the latest survey, is what vapers have said about dual use.

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The only time I dual use is because of rare severe emotional distress. Planning to get some NET liquid to see if it helps.


To me dual use is what I did in the first months of vaping. Now if I buy any cigarettes they are smoked till gone then I vape the rest of the time. I do not vape and smoke in the same day anymore – unless I run out of the cigarettes in the middle of a day.


I don’t consider an occasional slip dual use. It’s a continual fight.


I’m free!


quit smoking marlboro 3 weeks ago today. NO desire to go back


Day 1, I’m still shocked, every other NRT was an absolute failure.


Smoking one cigarette a month hardly makes me a dual user so I go with no, I don’t use tobacco products anymore.


I occasionally light up a traditional cigarette, to remind myself what it tastes like. This happens very rarely though. I also enjoy the taste of a nice vanilla cigar.


Within the past year I have smoked a total of 3 cigarettes. All of those occasions I forgot my e-cigarette home or ran out of batteries.


I have been smoke free for 1 year and 24 days.


During my time vaping I have used snus couple of times from friends but I don’t actually buy it myself or use it in major amounts, just occasionally.


I began by using vapor to replace every fifth cigarette. When that was comfortable, I replaced every fourth, and so on. After three weeks, I smoked my last tobacco cigarette and have been tobacco-free for 5.5 months and counting… even though I live with a pack-a-day smoker (he courteously smokes outside)


On occasions my liquids may run out, and i had not ordered more. At times like these i might smoke a day or two.


My dual using has mostly to do with the taste of e-cigs after eating. They taste like shit after you’ve eaten greasy food. I often have a morning cig too, since it just hits with all it’s chemicals the way ecig doesn’t. These two are my daily two “regular” cigarettes tho, everything else is covered by ecig and they do a much tastier job of it too.


sometimes when drunk


the first four days of vaping I was a dual user, at this point in time I never had a pack of cigarettes last four days I smoked two packs a day


I have friends who like to use a hookah device with flavored tobacco shisha, I use that occasionally but it isn’t even a once a month basis.


I still use snus


6 cigs in 2 years says I’ve stopped completely. That’s my answer and I’m sticking to it.



i think the other chemicals in tobacco have me in chains


Been 3 years clean and have never gone back to cigarettes


E-cigarettes helped me stopped smoking regular cigarettes all together!


I smell cigarettes now and get digusted by the smell i dont know how i ever smoked before


I now find smoking disgusting and hate the smell of it.


i vape a juice with sweet flavor, no tobacco and zero nicotine. the device is a metal box with a vapor tank, this is not smoking or a e cig.


I do not want anything to do with tobacco companies !


I know I wouldn’t have been able to quit without the use of my personal vaporizers


Again, the ecig along with Chantix did the trick for me!


Ever since making the switch to using e-cigs exclusively, I no longer have cravings of any kind for any tobacco products


I smoke when I go out drinking as it feels more social and I’m not worried about breaking or losing my mod


I can happily cope without cigarettes. And I would never touch a cig sober but sometimes my battery dies on a night out (because I stupidly forget to check how much charge is in it) and I’ll turn to smoking.


As I have said I do have the odd cigarette, but because I think ecigs are so amazing I know that in the not to distant future that cigarettes will finally at long last be a thing of the past


I have not had tobacco in over a week. I think I can finally make the switch to e-cigs


I have friends that still smoke, occasionally, when we get together, one will smell good so I will bum one from them. I’ll smoke about half, put it out, and wonder how I ever used those nasty things 16 + years.


As a matter of fact, my wife took a blood test to prove to our insurance company that she doesn’t smoke anmymore and PASSED!


 

I cannot stand the taste of tobacco based/flavoured eliquid, cannot stand the smell of tobacco smoke.




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Here is what they said on the 1st survey about dual use


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Taking Chances with Chantix or Zyban to Quit Smoking

ZybanDoctor’s orders: take your medicine, take your chances. Zyban and Chantix are government approved prescribed medications to allegedly help smokers stop smoking.

Extremely important information from consumers experiencing side-effects from Zyban and Chantix was collected in this survey. Detrimental effects of these medications were reported and were a huge topic in the comments .


In question # 10 of the Vaping Truth Survey, it was asked
“What other methods did you try to stop smoking before you stopped with vaping”.

Dangers, side effects, issues with these approved prescription drugs mixing with others are just a few of the reasons they cannot be used effectively as a way to stop smoking according to experience from others.

Searching on the results JUST where it was mentioned in the comments for Chantix & Zyban, here is what you said (no edits):



Chantix & Zyban



1. Chantix send me into depression.. Awful effect for me

2. The patch caused skin irritation and nughtmares. The gum caused digestive issues. Cold turkey worked for a short time because I was pregnant. And Chantix caused horrible nausea and nightmares.

3. Chantix was awful. It messed with how I felt and caused anxiety. Gum def didn’t work. Patch burned my skin, gave me super weird dreams. Vaping, has had no negative side effects.

4. SEVERELY allergic to Chantix Few times patch worked for a short time ONLY vaping has stopped and kept me stopped from smoking.

5. My mother has tried everything listed and this year suffered a DVT. She took both Zyban and Chantix. Zyban almost worked, and then she got sick from it. Chantix made her hallucinate, and have violent night terrors, having never had any of those symptoms ever before in her life. She’s still suffering some side effects a year plus after going off the Chantix. She quit smoking with vaping, going from a pack a day to zero, as suggested by her doctor, to save her life. Since quitting she’s gone off her high blood pressure medication and lost weight.

6. nothing works as well as vaping sorry chantix has too many horrible side effects
7. I didn’t try chantix because of the serious side effects

8. Chantix Makes you nuts. It should be taken off the market

9. Nothing worked. Chantix made me want to kill myself. I daydreamed about the ways I would do it. Pharmaceuticals are not the way to go.

10. none worked and Chantix had too many side effects
11. Chantix made me irritable and mean. Cold turkey I didn’t have enough self control for. The lozenges and gum did not help with the hand to mouth feel of smoking so it wasn’t good enough either.

12. You couldn’t get me to take Chantix or Zyban at any price.

13. Chantix (prescription) made me an absolute nut, patch and inhaler didn’t work for more than a month (I would go right back to it), and cold turkey didn’t work at all.

14. Chantix gave me extreme nightmares and very “weird” thoughts during the day….

15. I can’t take drugs like Chantix or Zyban, because I am on psychiatric medications which will be negatively affected by Chantix or Zyban.

16. These items are just plain crap…don’t work. Chantix drove me crazy, in a fog with Hypnosis, still smoked with the patch, lit a smoke after chewing the gum.

17. All hopeless -‘Champix” put me in hospital with bleeding from the bowel, patches wouldn’t stick even with tape wrapped around my arm over the patch, gums and books useless, cold turkey needs too much will power when you are an addict.

18. Tried Chantix but eventually went back to cigarettes

19. Neither medications like Chantix or patches/gums worked in my case. The withdrawal syndrome was too strong or they had some unexpected secondary effects.

20. Chantix kills…or helps you kill yourself at a very high cost $

21. I stopped short of Chantix as my brother used it to stop smoking and suicided within three months.

22. Am unable to take any prescribed pills like Chantix or Zyban, so tried the patch and gum but found myself wanting a cigarette at the same time.

23. Patch was not effective. I quit smocking 2 times for 1 years with champix (french version of chantix), but 2 times I get back to smock after ~1 year

24. I actually got the Chantix script from my doctor and got it filled but in the end, I was too terrified to take it, after researching it and reading about all the suicides, etc. It went down the toilet. Vaping is MUCH MUCH SAFER.

25. That last resort was Chantix and Zyban. It caused me to hallucinate. I gave the packets back to my doctor. As with patches, no effect except dizziness, rash on my skin, and I could even have one patch on each arm and smoke at the same time. I tired the Allan Carr method, his book is a con inmy opinion, it should be banned !

26. none worked, also Chantix, Zyban terrible side affects, all other did not work.

27. I have quit before successfully with chantix started again here and there with a smoking coworker or while fishing

28. Chantix/Champix gave me other, and far worse, problems than smoking. Severe depression is a bitch!

29. Chantix actually put me in a mental ward

30. I refused to try Chantix because my Brother in Law almost commited suicide while taking Chantix! Way too many side effects

31. My last attempt before rediscovering vaping was another trial with chantix along side of recovering from larengeal surgery because of a cancer scare. I lasted about one month. I would sa I have been desperate to quit for the last 15 years, but none of those options made it possible for me until I picked up my e-cig.

32. People have killed themselves while on Chantix. It made my mental state worse, giving terrible dreams & thoughts. Patches made my arm or wherever placed ache & hurt badly. Gum is gross & just doesn’t even do anything for me

33. None of them worked like vaping did. Especially not having to deal with side effects that Chantix gave me.

34. Chantix is evil

35. After one week on chantix I got depressed and was told by the doctor to stop using it as people have committed suicide on it. Other nrt either tasted horrible or made me itch or hurt my throat. After having acupuncture I left the building and had a fag. Self help books didnt teach me anything i didn’t already know. telling smokers that they will die won’t help anybody.

36. Chantix can help, it’s the best method after vaping

37. They lied about Chantix. I will not recommend this product to anyone.

38. Chantix helped me to quit for two years. Bad idea – while taking chantix i got palpitations, vertigo feelings and blurred vision. Terrible stuff.

39. Chantix is quite literally a nightmare.

40. Chantix/Champix made me want to finish myself..

41. patch gave me skin issues and bad dreams, cold turkey works as long as you don’t get stressed out and use the stress as an excuse to start smoking again.. and the chantix made me want to cut my own throat and, scary nightmares.

42. More scared of another round of Chantix (Champix) than dying of cigarettes!

43. I believe that both Zyban and Chantix ( Champix) should be banned because of heir side effects.

44. I am allergic to corn and have celiac as well as panic disorder. NO doctor would ever even think of giving me Chantix. NO doctor wanted me to quit smoking either. It was horrific on my pain levels and threw me into a depression. I am also allergic to adhesive so no patches. No gum or anything because of the corn. Cold turkey would have killed me.

45. Chantix made me crazy and un-well!

46. chantix zyban was a project from my previous workprovider (FORD), miserably failed. Cold turkey, i dont got a backbone for that. Patch and gums just dont do it for me at all.

47. I used champix and I regret using it. I have had stomach problems ever since. I think it did something to either the lining of my stomach or changed the chemical balance somehow? I quit on it, but it made me so very sick using it. As soon as I was off the “drug” I went back to smoking within days both times.

48. Chantix had side effects and once I went off the med the desire to smoke came right back.

49. The patch resulted in a 5 week cessation, with cravings remaining. Cold turkey lasted only hours. I wanted to try Chantix or Zyban, but I have epilepsy and so both drugs are contraindicated.

50. I tried chantix twice

51. The patch irritated my skin. Nic gum tastes like crap. Tried Chantix and it gave me nightmares. Vaping is the only thing that worked for me.

52. doctor would not give me chantix because of my health problems
53. hypnosis wasn’t available in my backwoods town. I did have lazer therapy as well but it lasted less than a week. Chantix made me have really dark thoughts so I had to get off of it.

54. Alan Carr helped for a while, and another book. Patches were irritating to my skin and didn’t work. I find chewing gum in public as offensive as some people find smoking! Even the packaging of Chantix warns that it could turn me into a ticking bomb, and I thought it would be irresponsible of me to take it.

55. I just can’t quit cold turkey. (I actually enjoy smoking). The patch makes me go numb and tingly where it’s applied, i.e.: on my arm, my arm will go numb and tingly. I can’t chew gum and the inhaler made me vomit. Accupunture worked for about a week (I think it was a placebo effect) and self help books haven’t helped. Drugs are not an option for me. I have suicidal thoughts on Zyban and on Chantix I was vomitting serverly. Having an eating disorder I can’t stay on Chantix. I lost over 8lbs in the week I was on it. Very dangerous for me.

56. Chantix was the absolute worst thing I ever did the night mares were horrible I felt awful from it. I did try everything first!

57. Chantix made me sick.

58. None of them work! Cold Turkey worked for a day max. Self help books seem superficial. Chantix made me all kinds of crazy and depressed. The gum is actually not bad but very expensive and not very safe. The patch did nothing for me other than make me more addicted because I would crave the nicotine and put on a patch but still needed that oral fixation and ended up smoking sometimes.

59. suicidal on Chantix

60. You name it I tried it. I wasn’t allowed to try Chantix or Zyban though because I am bi-polar and it would have interfered with my medication.

61. Chantix drove me nuts…can’t believe the FDA approved that one. Hypnosis made me feel like everything was in slow motion. Patches and gum did nothing for the cravings.

62. I tried everything I was able to when my husband was alive because he was a non-smoker and hated me smoking. The longest period I was able to remain smoke-free was cold-turkey (5 days). I could not use gum or lozenges after a while due to side-effects and my doctor refused to prescribe Chantix or Zyban as he sees them as too dangerous. Eventually I gave up giving up as I always failed and I enjoyed smoking.

63. I tried all these and not one even came close to me putting down my cigarettes I was just adding more nicotine to my habit because I still smoked while using them. Chantix/Zyban are really scary they can make you feel agitated and depressed

64. The patch and gum made me feel ill. Cold turkey made me so irritable, family was begging for me to smoke to calm down. Chantix gave me horrible nightmares, depression and generally felt like crap.

65. I was trying…my doc would not prescribe Chantix

66. Chantix almost killed me .Yet it’s still on the market after 700 deaths.

67. My doctor suggested Chantix a few years ago, but he should have known better because I’m bipolar and schizophrenic. Had I taken Chantix, it would have worked: I WOULD BE DEAD. Attempts to quit cold turkey were viciously repetitive failures. Vaping was the only thing that worked, and with immediate success. It was my miracle, my second chance at life.

68. Tried Chantix twice, gum twice, Zyban twice, patch once and cold turkey once over the course of about 15 years.

69. None of these methods worked. Patches and smoking don’t mix. I was taken off Chantix after three days; by my doctor, because of homicidal thoughts. He was freaked.

70. Zyban caused me to have a nervous breakdown and miss 6 months of work

71. Lozenges actually DID work; I did not smoke while I was using them. But my lozenge habit got more expensive than my cigarette habit! (and that’s expensive!) and even with the lozenges, I eventually went back to smoking. The Zyban worked as long as I kept taking it. But who wants to be on pills for the rest of their life? (and have to go to the doctor every month for a refill scrip?)

72. Only Zyban workt, when i stopt after 3 months i went back smoking!

73. Did successfully stop using Zyban, but started socially smoking amazing after about 3 years of non smoking. This did lead to starting smoking again after about 3-4 months of smoking only one evening a week.

74. Zyban left me like a vegetable – ready to commit suicide. My GP hasn’t prescribed the drug, after he saw what Zyban did to me and my mental health.

75. Zyban was very effective, but I became too nervous…said my wife. It holded 20 mounths without smoking.



You can see here what the FDA charts with all “approved” methods here:

Table Data: FDA Approved Drug


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