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Is Public Health Guided by Ethics?

Is “public health” guided by a code of ethics? Do they manufacture fear, utilizing a ‘greater good‘ behavioral “science” theory as form of social control? Is adding ‘we can all agree’ to narrate manipulate public opinions changing health outcomes for the public at large?

Have expectations vs reality concerning what’s ‘best for you’ reared their ugly head(s)? Over time – trust, and the morality factor public health thrives on – had to come to light, eventually.


An Ethical Dilemma

Lets see if I have this right: #Science is science. Junk science isn’t science. Correlation isn’t science, pseudoscience isn’t ‘science’. Science-based isn’t science, behavioral science is pseudoscience, “trust the science” means there was no science, depending on someone’s interpretation, and eventually, presentation with a long silent wink of encouraged speculation.

“Their” science, and ethics should by always be questioned. Isn’t that how science works? Alas, my tobacco control math skill could be wrong, but I’ll get back to that.

Surely they all have a ‘code of ethics’ in their respective groups, but what is the standard? The definition of ‘research misconduct’ from the U.S. Office of Research Integrity is vague at best, as I point to:

(d) Research misconduct does not include honest error or differences of opinion.

Differences of opinion??? Huh. Think about that. If they ‘police themselves’, but “Hey, Bill, I appreciate your concern, but – we’ve always done it this way” is the norm, then what differentiates the norm?

That’s found here.

I have an idea, do your jobs by properly informing consumers, displaying respect for human rights, scientific integrity, and of course, ethics. No more, no less.

Do we trust them? Even they don’t even think we do.

Tobacco Harm Reduction as a Path to Restore Trust in Tobacco Control


Theoretical rhetoric, narratives, and public opinion

Yep, you read that right. “Theoretical rhetoric“.

Last week I noticed trust in Truth Initiative, and their narratives, has fallen. Dramatically. I’m unable to pinpoint how (or when) it happened, or for how long, but I can point to a specific moment I noticed the general public has turned on Truth Initiative. (So have I, here, and here.) Don’t get me started on them terrorizing the juvenile delinquents children™.

I’m not unhappy about this revelation, but I’ll try not to gloat.

Definition of truth: the quality or state of being true.

I don’t pay attention to Truth Manipulative’s Facebook posts any more. I used to search them out like a crazed madman playing “whack-a-mole”. I would see the occasional familiar face on a post, but didn’t recognize anyone in this “Truth” >sponsored< post and Facebook thread. These people didn’t mention synthetic nicotine in their comments, they didn’t even mention vaping. Yet, trust seemed sparse all along the watchtower of their non-profit political front group threads.

Jim said “Keep the government out of people’s personal decisions.”

Andy said “How about if you just let people make decisions about what they want to consume for themselves?”

Ray said “Leave people alone, who made you the morality police.”

As I wandered down the rabbit hole, I found this post was also full of unfavorable comments and public opinions. Then I saw it again on this post as well.

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Added 7/28/2022:

Speaking of Truth Manipulative, I cannot ruin it for you, but here’s an excerpt from Marc Gunther at Filter Mag:

“We’re not talking misinformation. We’re talking disinformation. This is willful misrepresentation of facts. It’s mind-blowing.” ~ Sally Satel (@slsatel)

My preface: The not-so-intricate connections between orgs, pseudo, sociopolitical “science” – silencing #science… and is far more important than what you’ve read thus far:

The Half-Truth Initiative: How an Anti-Smoking Group Lost Its Way

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Speaking of ethics

While drafting this blog, it seems there are some distracted tobacco control “experts” recently feeling as if they’re being intimidated, and “it disrupts their work“.

The University of Bath released this 7/19/2022:

Advocates fighting tobacco epidemic in developing countries face intimidation – new study

Bold and italics are my emphasis in the quote:

“Over two-fifths of participants reported either experiencing one or more of these more covert intimidatory tactics directly or were aware that another member of the tobacco control community had been intimidated”

Tobacco control math: 23 participants. Two-fifths. Sounds scary.

A survey – imagine – showing “Twenty-three participants from five WHO regions” had “experienced intimidation. The most frequently reported forms of intimidation were discreditation on social or traditional media“.

(BMJ version is here)

In typical form, ‘we’re being bullied’ from the bullies, and – in classic tobacco control generalization, suddenly an anecdotal self-reporting survey is absolute. And reliable? But vapers testimonies are not? Huh.

I say, after all these years – To see the public lose trust in the ivory tower that is “public health” in any form, stand UP and explain their disdain is a welcome sight and sound. It’s not about time to start calling them out, it’s long overdue.


The Commissioner of the FDA, Robert Califf, mentioned misinformation on February 17th of this year, and now has announced an investigation of his own agency.

Pardon my skepticism, this should turn out well under their own scrutiny, then manipulation of the findings….

So, speaking of loss of trust and scrutiny:

A Monster Thread:

Getting back to previously mentioned “tobacco control math”, I noticed this thread on Twitter, showing the opinionization™, ®, © and twisting of ‘science’, data, and extrapolation using innuendo. In any form. HIGHLY recommended to read this, and follow Chelsea Troy.


Last But Not Least

As a recent guest of Son of Liberty Radio, American Council on Science and Health author, Cameron English has produced a growing list of top junk science used here.

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Vaping In The News ~ June 28th, 2020

Vaping In The News covers media stories on smoking, vaping, snus, heat not burn, e-cigarettes, exposing tobacco control, public health, government, regulations, policies and more worldwide.

“The largest threat to Public Health is an informed consumer.”


Angry Vapers Force Australian Health Minister to Back Down ~ Health Minister delays ban on prescription nicotine-based e-cigarettes ~ Perverse Psychology ~ Trigger ~ HK Ban Prop Dropped ~ First PMTA from an Indie Vape Manufacturer Submitted ~ David Dorn’s “The Pleasure Principle” revisited ~ Associations of Flavored e-Cigarette Uptake With Subsequent Smoking Initiation and Cessation ~ The past is not the future in tobacco control ~ Slice & Dice | Vape Crusader Fights Toe-To-Toe | RegWatch


Angry Vapers Force Australian Health Minister to Back Down

On the 26th of January, in fast and accurate form as always, Jim McDonald breaks down the FIGHT in Australia.

Angry Vapers Force Australian Health Minister to Back Down


Health Minister delays ban on prescription nicotine-based e-cigarettes

Also, for perspective:

Health Minister delays ban on prescription nicotine-based e-cigarettes


Perverse Psychology

Reader warning/disclaimer:

You will be triggered, you may, could, might, or are likely not to return for the rest of my news this week.

I’ll take my chances.

Perverse Psychology


Trigger

If that didn’t trigger you… (Blame Michelle Minton, I warned you), I’ve made a nifty-diftly little meme for you to connect the dots from the FDA, flowing through non-profit political front groups posing as “public health”.

They’re blaming YOU in business for something THEY created – and they’re getting away with it. But, think for yourself. I’m here to help. You’re welcome.

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HK Ban Prop Dropped

“It welcomed the science-based approach that embraces the concept of tobacco harm reduction”… see what Dave has to say:

HK Ban Prop Dropped


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First PMTA from an Indie Vape Manufacturer Submitted

The deadline looms… so…

First PMTA from an Indie Vape Manufacturer Submitted


Fresh off the press:

What? WHAT??? W H A T ? ? ? That just can’t be!


The Pleasure Principle revisited…

David Dorn, if you remember, was at the Global Forum on Nicotine in 2016. He made a speech. Now in June of 2020, Samantha below finds it, loves it, and explains it. David’s work did not, and will not, go unnoticed or forgotten as long as I’m around.

THIS is another reason I love Twitter and do what I ‘do’.


Associations of Flavored e-Cigarette Uptake With Subsequent Smoking Initiation and Cessation

17,929 participants? Nice! It’s not as large as Dr. Farsalino’s largest ever found here with 69,233 participants, and submitted to the FDA as Docket No. FDA-2017-N-6565_FARSALINOS.pdf. (We’ve NEVER heard a word since that I’m aware of).

“In this study, adults who began vaping nontobacco-flavored e-cigarettes were more likely to quit smoking than those who vaped tobacco flavors.”

Their link is here:

Associations of Flavored e-Cigarette Uptake With Subsequent Smoking Initiation and Cessation


The past is not the future in tobacco control

It really, really isn’t.

We should encourage product innovation and support civil dialogue on issues related to smoking harm reduction.

We really should.

The past is not the future in tobacco control


Slice & Dice | Vape Crusader Fights Toe-To-Toe | RegWatch

Finally, I hope you can bear an hour and a half of listening to me with Brent Stafford of RegWatch, he invited me (yay!) on to discuss a few things… I was honored to be invited and followed a great number of people I’ve admired over the years on his show.

I want to thank Cindy Schmidt specifically for reminding me of the reason I do what I do, and the perspective and kind words she had at the beginning of the show, and for Mike Peterson’s words and of course, vapers.org.uk.

Slice & Dice | Vape Crusader Fights Toe-To-Toe | RegWatch


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Tobacco Harm Reduction 101

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Tobacco Harm Reduction 101


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Vaping In The News ~ June 14th, 2020

Vaping In The News covers media stories on smoking, vaping, snus, heat not burn, e-cigarettes, exposing tobacco control, public health, government, regulations, policies and more worldwide.

“The largest threat to Public Health is an informed consumer.”


Louise Ross: Pragmatism versus dogma ~ Global Forum on Nicotine ~ The Unlikely Savior ~ Don’t Ban Today What May Have a PMTA Tomorrow ~ R.J. Reynolds Wants Out of Historic Tobacco Settlement ~ Anti-Drug Warriors’ Crocodile Tears ~ Snus ~ Butthurt Stan ~ No Flavour Gateway


Louise Ross: Pragmatism versus dogma

A pioneer (and someone I adore) speaks at the Global Forum on Nicotine, and Clive Bates covers it:

Louise Ross: Pragmatism versus dogma


Global Forum on Nicotine

Here’s a subtle observation about #GFN20 each year. Those claiming to be “experts” have an open invite, yet are not speaking or attending to share their ‘knowledge’.

Those experts who ARE attending & speaking? I’ve never seen ONE of them proclaim expertise.

They just show up.

Here’s where it’s curated:

Global Forum on Nicotine


The Unlikely Savior

Smoking, nicotine and Covid-19: What is going on?

Maybe it’s simply because smokers are already forced to be anti-social by being put in smoking areas. Maybe it’s the nicotine, or some other constituent in cigarettes… either way – I know the tobacco CONtrol and anti-nicotine crowd have (depending on where you’re from) – their panties, knickers, or shorts in a knot about even imagining nicotine has a “good place” in the world.

That’s how I like to picture them: uncomfortable, scratching their heads and picking their asses, in public.

I’ll let Clive Bates take over from here:

The Unlikely Savior


Don’t Ban Today What May Have a PMTA Tomorrow

I’m not sure how many times I’ve said this: If you are IN this industry, you MUST have working knowledge of your local (and state) representatives (and opposition). You MUST be PROactive. You MUST be JUST as concerned about THEIR concerns and answer those questions before your 3 minutes at a podium ticks quietly by on deaf ears. Certainly, out of breath – I’ve covered these and more as a consumer, HERE: Vaping Industry Trade Associations.

So this caught my eye, and you, in industry, should read it. Your business, your choice. The deadline is looming, and I’m still rooting for you.

“It is reasonable for states and localities, which can often move faster than federal regulatory bodies, to regulate tobacco products in a way that suits their constituents.”

Don’t Ban Today What May Have a PMTA Tomorrow


Helen Redmond asks an engaging question to former smokers. Consumers. YOU.


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R.J. Reynolds Wants Out

I read this, and thought… this should be both fun and entertaining for the listener… after all, who could’ve predicted this?

R.J. Reynolds Wants Out of Historic Tobacco Settlement


Anti-Drug Warriors’ Crocodile Tears

I adore Michelle Minton. She wrote (among many things) this. This time she covers virtue signaling and disingenuous crocodile tears… from those who openly perpetuate the problem.

Anti-Drug Warriors’ Crocodile Tears


Snus


Butthurt Stan

Just the title alone should’ve brought you this far down the page… It seems Professor Puff-N-Stuff in in need of a little ointment and of course, more funding.

Butthurt Stan


No Flavour Gateway

Something else I’ve said ’till I was blue in the face: I said in 2017 there is NO GATEWAY, AGAIN, there is NO GATEWAY to smoking from vaping products.

Someone else said it again. They’ve got titles and stuff.

No Flavour Gateway


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Vaping In The News – February 22nd, 2020

VITN covers nicotine, smoking, vaping, snus, heat not burn, e-cigarettes, harm reduction, tobacco control, public health, government, regulations, policies & more worldwide.

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Vaping Prohibition is On the Table in Congress ~ I dare you to click on this ~ Nicotine science and policy Q & A ~ Virus hammers vape producers – and taxes boost smoking ~ Flavored tobacco bans lead to unintended consequences ~ Professor Puff-N-Stuff is a retracted idiot ~ Trump’s Good Idea: Get Drug Regulators Out Of Vaping ~ Did Somebody Leave the Gaslight On? ~ IQOS Heat-Not-Burn Products Are Drawing Smokers Away from Cigarettes ~ Did FDA Create a Regulatory Loophole for Puff Bars? ~ Did the government just contract Disney to advertise to children? ~ When a politician’s lips are moving:


Vaping Prohibition is On the Table in Congress

I seem to remember saying, tweeting, and blogging about regulations, restrictions, taxes, and bans. Repeatedly. Redundantly. Ahhh… but I repeat myself repetitively.

Vaping Prohibition is On the Table in Congress


Nicotine science and policy Q & A

WELL worth the lengthy read. Why? Don’t question me!

Nicotine science and policy Q & A


I dare you to click on this…

Pro tip to legislators: Behind closed-doors agenda agreements should come BEFORE a vote, not during. Because I adore it so much, I tend to use the word (or variations) of “clusterfuck” sparingly. Here’s fuckwittery and clusterfuckitry in action – in front of a camera.


Virus hammers vape producers – and taxes boost smoking

I thought he’d sold his soul at least twice, but now, I present to you, THE Fergus Mason.

Virus hammers vape producers – and taxes boost smoking


Flavored tobacco bans lead to unintended consequences

A.J. Moll. In the flesh. Well, in the electronic flesh:

Flavored tobacco bans lead to unintended consequences


Professor Puff-N-Stuff is a retracted idiot.

If he’s lied about this one, imagine the need to go over ALL of his “work”. You can pick one from many, they’re all my favorite:

Journal Retracts “Unreliable” Glantz Study

Junk study on vaping and heart attacks retracted

American Heart Association Journal Finally Retracts Study

Junk Vape Heart Attack Study Pulled – But Damage is Done

Journal retracts hotly contested paper on vaping and heart attacks



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Trump’s Good Idea: Get Drug Regulators Out Of Vaping

I have a special place in my heart for those in public health actually doing the work they are supposed to do. Here’s Sally Satel:

Trump’s Good Idea: Get Drug Regulators Out Of Vaping


Did Somebody Leave the Gaslight On?

Don’t think for one second this tactic isn’t being abused, common practice and used well in the dark recesses of government… see what I did there…

Did Somebody Leave the Gaslight On?


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IQOS Heat-Not-Burn Products Are Drawing Smokers Away from Cigarettes

“I’m for whatever works for the informed consumer. Patch, gum, Heat Not Burn, vaping, snus, acupuncture, books, hypnosis, counseling, etc. Do I “like” them all? No. It’s not about or me, or what “I” like. What may work as a choice for a consumer is first.” ~ Me.

IQOS Heat-Not-Burn Products Are Drawing Smokers Away from Cigarettes


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Did FDA Create a Regulatory Loophole for Puff Bars?

As always, Jim McDonald goes above and beyond.

Did FDA Create a Regulatory Loophole for Puff Bars?


Wait, did the government just contract Disney to advertise to children? I’m not giving you the link in Jerry’s tweet. I’ll let you decide if you will do that all on your own.


When a politician’s lips are moving:


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Vaping In The News – February 15th, 2020

Vaping In The News covers nicotine, smoking, vaping, snus, heat not burn, e-cigarettes, harm reduction, tobacco control, public health, government, regulations, policies & more worldwide.

The largest threat to Public Health is an informed consumer.


Attempt to Create a New Tobacco Agency Will Not Work ~ A New Vape Agency for America? ~ Could tobacco cure coronavirus? Don’t laugh. ~ Smokeless Tobacco Users Are Not Dying from Diseases Associated with Smoking ~ Michelle Minton, FOIA Times Two ~ The CDC IS To Blame ~ What You Should Know About E-cigarettes and EVALI ~ New Study Suggests Raising Taxes On E-Cigarettes Could Encourage Traditional Smoking ~ The Effects of E-Cigarette Taxes on E-Cigarette Prices and Tobacco Product Sales: Evidence from Retail Panel Data ~ Think banning flavours will stamp out youth vaping? Think again


Attempt to Create a New Tobacco Agency Will Not Work

E-cigarettes should not BE tobacco products, but, I’m not in charge. That said, on National Tobacco Day, they were deemed tobacco.

In accordance with put your thinking caps on, there are reasons to link certain topics of importance. (Aside from the VITN rules!)

Attempt to Create a New Tobacco Agency Will Not Work

A New Vape Agency for America?

Where there’s one point of view, there’s always another. Whether you see the point in the 1st link, or notice something Dave Cross has to say below, this is a topic higher on the list than some would like it to be. Put your thinking caps back on!

A New Vape Agency for America?


Could tobacco cure coronavirus? Don’t laugh.

I couldn’t have predicted this coming across your eyes… but here we are… go on, it won’t hurt you.

Could tobacco cure coronavirus? Don’t laugh.


Smokeless Tobacco Users Are Not Dying from Diseases Associated with Smoking

Dr. Brad Rodu. Period.

Smokeless Tobacco Users Are Not Dying from Diseases Associated with Smoking


Michelle Minton FOIA Times Two:

The CDC Is to Blame For More Americans Than Ever Being Misinformed About Vaping and E-Cigarettes

Ya think? I do.

The CDC Is to Blame For More Americans Than Ever Being Misinformed About Vaping and E-Cigarettes


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What You Should Know About E-cigarettes and EVALI

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The Ponzi Scheme:

Alright, fine. That’s not the title. But that’s the goal.

The Effects of E-Cigarette Taxes on E-Cigarette Prices and Tobacco Product Sales: Evidence from Retail Panel Data

“We simulate that for every one standard e-cigarette pod (a device that contains liquid nicotine in e-cigarettes) of 0.7 ml no longer purchased as a result of an e-cigarette tax, the same tax increases traditional cigarettes purchased by 6.2 extra packs.”

There’s a PDF within.

The Effects of E-Cigarette Taxes on E-Cigarette Prices and Tobacco Product Sales: Evidence from Retail Panel Data


New Study Suggests Raising Taxes On E-Cigarettes Could Encourage Traditional Smoking

Of course it will, and it is in strict accordance with that pesky contractual government Ponzi Scheme called the Master Settlement Agreement.

New Study Suggests Raising Taxes On E-Cigarettes Could Encourage Traditional Smoking


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Think banning flavours will stamp out youth vaping? Think again

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Vaping In The News – January 25th, 2020

Vaping In The News covers nicotine, smoking, vaping, snus, heat not burn, e-cigarettes, harm reduction, tobacco control, public health, government, regulations, policies & more worldwide.

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They ALL lied ~ Peddlers of Ignorance ~ US Surgeon General is an educated idiot ~ The “Vape Apocalypse” is still the law. Only legislation can change that ~ Will Trump Stop the FDA’s May 11 Vape Apocalypse? ~ Azar Promises Streamlined PMTA Approval for Small Vape Businesses ~ Where Did Underage Vapers Get E-Cigs ~ WHO Vape Report Misleading ~ E-cigarettes: how risky are they?


They ALL lied

No compound that could be linked to EVALI was found in the two nicotine products tested.

“Our laboratory was the first to identify vitamin E acetate in vaporizer fluids recovered from pulmonary injury patients, which we promptly reported to officials of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and public health officials from numerous states via conference call and via e-mail on August 19, 2019…”

Leafly covered this in September. We ALL know they ALL lied, since at LEAST August. EVALI shall now be renamed as CALIE. (#CDC-associated lung injury epidemic) (CALIE) is ™,©, and ® via @mihotep, 2020.

Vitamin E acetate in products used by the first cases of EVALI in New York State


Peddlers of Ignorance

Robert Innes takes on the idiots at the World Health Organization and has a twist on the “ENDS” acronym I have hated the moment I saw it.

Peddlers of Ignorance


US Surgeon General is an educated idiot

I do like to keep you informed, but please, do not read this on an empty stomach.

As the latest report on smoking in the U.S. was written, vetted, and phamaceutically (yes I made that up) approved, the idiot wasted no time in a speech covering the report he didn’t write by exclaiming – or explaining – jury’s still out – to the country:

I didn’t even know until this report came out that you can add as much as 10 years — a decade — to your life expectancy by quitting smoking,” he said.

Here’s his speech in writing:

US Surgeon General is an educated idiot

Bonus idiot alert:

I’ve asked this a gazillion times: At what age is a “smoker” considered a “smoker”? (I was 9 when I started, by 11 or so I was pretty well set in my ways… )

By Jerry’s standards, “teens” who quit smoking (with vaping or any other product) is beneficial regardless of how long they’ve smoked, or their age.

Please note my response to the idiots tweet, and of course, Dr. Sheila Vakharia’s as well.


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The “Vape Apocalypse” is still the law. Only legislation can change that.

VITN rules apply for this next one from Michael McGrady… thinking caps:

The “Vape Apocalypse” is still the law. Only legislation can change that.


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Will Trump Stop the FDA’s May 11 Vape Apocalypse?

Jim McDonald takes coverage of the fight businesses face, and journalism to a much higher and respectable level, here’s an example:

Will Trump Stop the FDA’s May 11 Vape Apocalypse?


Speaking of Jim McDonald, *possession*……


Azar Promises Streamlined PMTA Approval for Small Vape Businesses

This, with an audio interview, is interesting. I’ve quoted, in part, a piece of what HHS Secretary Azar stated:

“We’re working with small businesses & the vaping association to actually create pathways that would streamline approval for the open tank small vape shop based products” … of course, Jim McDonald covers it all below.

Azar Promises Streamlined PMTA Approval for Small Vape Businesses


Where Did Underage Vapers Get E-Cigs

I stole this one directly from our friends at Vapers.org.UK…. and I should not have to type Dr. RODU’s name more than once, but I will… (are you new here)?

Dr. Rodu is on this…. and explains:

Unsurprisingly, underage teen vapers were mainly motivated by curiosity (50%).  That may be a response to the FDA’s poorly crafted vaping epidemic ad campaign………….” 

Where Did Underage Vapers Get E-Cigs


WHO Vape Report Misleading

Globally, they’ve run out of ideas, the vitamin E acetate isn’t working out to their advantage… and by that, I mean the wheels on the bus go round and round, rehashing old clickbait – into new clickbait sounds appealing.

WHO Vape Report Misleading


E-cigarettes: how risky are they?

This isn’t about health, see Dave’s version of the W.H.O.’s “position” here:

E-cigarettes: how risky are they?


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Vaping In The News – December 14th, 2019

NEWS

Vaping In The News covers nicotine, smoking, vaping, snus, heat not burn, e-cigarettes, harm reduction, tobacco control, public health, government, regulations, policies & more worldwide.

The largest threat to Public Health is an informed consumer.


The vaping crisis – Questions and answers by Clive Bates  ~ Tobacco harm reduction and human rights ~ CDC Survey: Flavors Aren’t the Main Reason Kids Vape ~ Here’s More Evidence That Flavors Aren’t the Reason Teens Vape ~ Profiting from E-Cigarette Fearmongering ~ Tweet(s) of the week ~ How to Spot and Avoid Vape Advocacy Scams ~ New FDA Chief Stephen Hahn Will Get Credit (or Blame) for New Vaping Rules ~ “Dependence” and the danger of adopting the language of your oppressors ~ Trump aides hold daily meetings on vaping as White House scrambles to formulate policy


The vaping crisis – Questions and answers by Clive Bates 

Clive Bates has questions. And answers. What more do you want?

The vaping crisis – Questions and answers by Clive Bates 


Tobacco harm reduction and human rights

” It’s important to remember that smokers have rights too.” Very important.

Tobacco harm reduction and human rights


CDC Survey: Flavors Aren’t the Main Reason Kids Vape

What? HUH!

CDC Survey: Flavors Aren’t the Main Reason Kids Vape


Here’s More Evidence That Flavors Aren’t the Reason Teens Vape

There’s a theme to this flavor thing.

Here’s More Evidence That Flavors Aren’t the Reason Teens Vape


Profiting from E-Cigarette Fearmongering

Dr. Rodu is as impressed with Michelle Minton as we are. He explains: “Still, its contents are even more relevant now.”

Yes, sir, they are.

Profiting from E-Cigarette Fearmongering


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Tweet(s) of the week

New Hampshire has decided access to cigarettes and “other tobacco products” should be 19, vaping products should be 21.


How to Spot and Avoid Vape Advocacy Scams

Because there have been a few I’m aware of, this is an important topic.

How to Spot and Avoid Vape Advocacy Scams


New FDA Chief Stephen Hahn Will Get Credit (or Blame) for New Vaping Rules

How are politicians deemed qualified to decide who is medically qualified – to be medically qualified – to satisfy the country’s needs?

New FDA Chief Stephen Hahn Will Get Credit (or Blame) for New Vaping Rules


“Dependence” and the danger of adopting the language of your oppressors

Unless Carl‘s intent is brainwashing us, there are points in here we all need to consider.

“Dependence” and the danger of adopting the language of your oppressors


Trump aides hold daily meetings on vaping as White House scrambles to formulate policy

I’m not saying the initial Washington meeting between the vaping industry has anything to do with a sitting President taking daily updates much further or more seriously… wait a minute, yes.

Yes I am.

Trump aides hold daily meetings on vaping as White House scrambles to formulate policy


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Vaping In The News – November 30th, 2019

Vaping In The News covers nicotine, smoking, vaping, snus, heat not burn, e-cigarettes, harm reduction, tobacco control, public health, government, regulations, policies & more worldwide.

The largest threat to Public Health is an informed consumer.


Bloomberg Grant ~ Sources of youth access to JUUL vaping products in the United States ~ FDA faces fire from researchers saying it has not prioritized e-cigarette testing ~ Tweet of the Week ~ Truth Initiative Logo ~ NYC Flavor Ban Passes as Vapers Throw Money at the Council ~ Grinch Relief Fund ~ CPSC Will Go After Vape Shops That Violate Bottle Rules ~ Harm Reduction ~ End The Lies


Bloomberg Grant

Fine, the actual title isn’t “Bloomberg Grant”. By giving the CDC Foundation (not the CDC itself – see 3rd question here) some money… that the title I chose, and the “upstanding purpose” he’s trying to (legally) hide behind, are both misleading.

“the CDC Foundation received a grant from Bloomberg Philanthropies to monitor and evaluate e-cigarette use”

CDC Foundation to Monitor E-Cigarette Use in Teens


Sources of youth access to JUUL vaping products in the United States

“Youth sources of access to JUUL vaping products appear to mirror youth sources of access to other tobacco products.”

“By comparison, 20.0% [95% CI = 18.0–22.0%) of current users bought JUUL products themselves.”

Few like that I mention the Synar Amendment (link) over and again for a reason.

So…you may notice I mention (among other things) the Synar Amendment (over and again) for another reason:

Why? Because 20% failure rates embedded in the Synar Amendment are👉 as designed & desired. Like with cigarettes 👈.

Anyone heard compelling demands to tighten existing laws from any public health groups yet?

Sources of youth access to JUUL vaping products in the United States


FDA faces fire from researchers saying it has not prioritized e-cigarette testing: report

I’m not sure why they’re looking for things they already know… but here we are.

FDA faces fire from researchers saying it has not prioritized e-cigarette testing: report


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Tweet of the week:

Is this how regulation over adult choices is decided? On internet surveys? Really? Huh.

It isn’t so much that there is a survey that concerns me. It is that one sentence and all that it implies.

“This study is for regulatory purposes only (not marketing) and the results will be shared with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.”


Truth Initiative Logo

Well – I hope no one retweets this.

I heard they don’t like stuff like this, so cut that out. It’s not nice.


NYC Flavor Ban Passes as Vapers Throw Money at the Council

When you have nothing left to lose, I encourage civil disobedience.

NYC Flavor Ban Passes as Vapers Throw Money at the Council


Grinch Relief Fund

This fund is to help those being negatively affected by this governmental overreach and destruction of jobs.

Grinch Relief Fund


CPSC Will Go After Vape Shops That Violate Bottle Rules

Batteries and bottles…….. Jim never disappoints.

CPSC Will Go After Vape Shops That Violate Bottle Rules


Harm Reduction

Another of my heroes tweets about two of my other heroes.


End The Lies

In the spirit of the “Quit Lying” campaign, here’s some more:

End The Lies


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White House: Trump asks for Solutions

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Link to Gregory Conley’s photo is HERE.

President Trump asked to have a conversation with public health and vaping industry organizations. The purpose of the meeting was to get “representatives of the Vaping industry, together with medical professionals and individual state representatives” to “come up with an acceptable solution to the Vaping and E-cigarette dilemma. Children’s health & safety, together with jobs, will be a focus!”, according to his tweet.

If the President invited me to sit face to face with him along side of those who may not agree with science and data I’d be explaining, I’d certainly read the invite and be prepared to… Well, I’d take reasonable steps above and beyond to accommodate – by offering an acceptable, comprehensive solution he was asking for.

Now, remember, dear reader – he specifically said “come up with an acceptable solution” in his purpose, so there may be a test.


For public health, seasoned representatives were there, some with 30 or more years in their position. They need less than two sentences of attention from me, and <—these were it.

Also included in the meeting were were Mitt Romney, Joe Grogan, Kelly Ann Conway, Health and Human Services (allegedly unbias and science-based) Secretary Azar among others.

The other side (with the exception of Juul) representing mostly small businesses (who represent consumers) were also seasoned representatives. Scott Eley, Gregory Conley, Tony Abboud, Reynolds, Njoy, at least one rep for convenience stores, and Americans for Tax Reform.


The President didn’t wast time. He was inquisitive with everyone, asking for, but not always listening to solutions as a response to his questions. Public health group responses to his questions were the same, with variations, referring to his decision from September 11th to ban all flavors except tobacco. The other group, except for one, contributed to the conversation with solutions.

Freedom of choice for millions of ex-smokers and the ability to navigate that right with flavors were the literal discussion in the White House. The conversation just changed for access to less harmful alternatives on a national scale.

Until now, we have NEVER had a seat in front of the President of the United States. WOW. I don’t think he knew (we, the people) less harmful alternatives existed until he flew over us on November 9th of this year.

WE the people exposed “Public Health” by applying both social and political pressure and offering solutions “they” could not come up with 👉 in front of sitting President.


Timeline:

With more than a decade of use by consumers, science and data (links to that are all over this blog), a decade of advocacy groundwork had also been laid long before I came along in 2014.

  • Summer- 2019: Unscrupulous “health” organizations took an opportunity to falsely blame illness and deaths on legal vaping products. In fact, “samples from 29 patients with “EVALI submitted to CDC from 10 states found vitamin E acetate in all of the samples.” Vitamin E acetate was used in THC-containing products. (Link to source)
  • September 9th: The First Lady (Flotus) tweeted concern of an “epidemic of e-cigarette use in our children”.
  • September 10th: In the early morning (6:54 AM) hours, gazillionaire Bloomberg announced he was spending $160M on an initiative with Tobacco-Free Kids to ban flavored e-cigarettes
  • September 10th: Later that day, Flotus tweeted a Washington Post article at 12:03 P.M. (Yes I noticed the times on Bloomberg and Flotus’s tweets)
  • September 11th: Secretary Azar announces he will be “finalizing policies that will clear flavored e-cigarettes from the market.”
  • September 13th: President Trump tweeted: “While I like the Vaping alternative to Cigarettes, we need to make sure this alternative is SAFE for ALL! Let’s get counterfeits off the market, and keep young children from Vaping!”
  • September 18th: small businesses of Vapor Technology Association went to Washington, D.C. with solutions in hand to representatives.
  • September 18th: Paul Blair explained voters are clearly an issue for the President.
Vapor Technology Association members, in Washington, D.C.

Frustrated consumers & business owners already tweeting and calling the White House in opposition of a flavor ban, and these efforts became more intense.

  • November 1st, Trump announced the ban of flavors the following week.
  • November 4th, “White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) canceled all remaining meetings with stakeholders” as Jim McDonald reported here, and Dimitris Agrafiotis tweeted here.
  • Saturday – November 9th – two months after the First Lady tweeted her first concerns, WE, chose to exercise our freedom of assembly in our nation’s capital. We, the people didn’t just go to Washington, D.C., we were standing in our own yard.

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  • November 11th:

TWO days after the rally. Coincidence? I think not.

NO one could have predicted this. Bright and early on November 11th, at 9:00 AM, we knew were being listened to.

I’m poaching Schell Hammel’s words: This was a defining moment.

The President of the United States tweeted:

“Will be meeting with representatives of the Vaping industry, together with medical professionals and individual state representatives, to come up with an acceptable solution to the Vaping and E-cigarette dilemma. Children’s health & safety, together with jobs, will be a focus!”

I don’t think anyone “knew” who was going.


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Link to Tony Abboud’s photo is HERE.

Finally, on November 22nd, President Trump met with various invited groups and gave them an opportunity, *asking* for solutions.


While you and I can agree or disagree with finer points and details of the conversation, representatives invited from the vaping industry (except for Juul), did offer solutions. After all, we were having a conversation with the President. I had -0- concerns for who kept their composure in the face to face with those trying to take our freedoms away, and those offering solutions for me in front of President Trump.

These people were fighting most importantly, for millions of former smokers and future smokers who have the human right to CHOOSE the option of flavors and the right to less harmful products. They were also fighting for thousands of small businesses, thousands more of their employees, customers (you and me), and more employed in various ancillary functions.


WE WERE CHANGING THE CONVERSATION INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE.

We were offering SOLUTIONS inside the WHITE HOUSE.

Sorry I yelled. No I’m not.


This was a defining moment.

The eyes of the world were upon us. Again. Here are key personal takeaways from this historical meeting:

Thirteen days after the vaping community and the world watched the Washington, D.C. rally on November 9th, the whole world waited in anticipation to see this meeting unfold.

President Trump wasn’t operating in a bubble. He was concerned, he was engaging. For a change, we weren’t in facing a one-sided wall of resistance. The media couldn’t report it the way they wanted to. No press could spin or invert the narrative of one side. We all witnessed the same exchanges.

We were not being told we only had three minutes. Instead, we publicly voiced concerns and were offering solutions with an opportunity that has been actively fought for years – represented in the highest office in the land.

  • WE were well-prepared with answers.
  • We were articulate with safety and standards
  • We were armed with data, science, and solutions.

Public health (“they”) didn’t present answers. They presented the same narrative – that children are breaking laws, and proposed absolute bans.

Trump DID ask great questions. He was attentive, and at times, curious. At one point he asked:

“If we take out flavors, won’t they just be made illegally?”


Tony Abboud “this is the new vapor industry, not the old tobacco industry”.


It was CLEAR Trump understood THC deaths and illnesses ARE a separate issue.

Like it (I don’t) or not, “Tobacco 21” looks like it will be law of land – eventually. Trump leaned in and it said, “we need to do that”.


He did NOT like the idea of a ban with valid fears of a black market – and kids doing what kids may do. He understood while kids are an issue, adults are an issue. He asked very specific questions – he asked from a business point of view.

Sadly he had Mitt (Philip Morris history link) Romney squawking like an injured crow at his side.

Because President Trump didn’t like a black market, he also quickly realized the “public health” representatives were parroting his words and did not have a solution.

Importantly, President Trump asked questions about less harm. Gregory Conley explained it to him.

President Trump reiterates his understanding by giving Tony Abboud a chance to speak.

He understood flavors.

He was looking for and likes to know about:

Economical impact.

Job numbers. Employment.

He understands math and votes.

Now, he also understands adult access.

Trump understands safety. Secretary Azar mentions “health claims” at the end – and lies, stating there is “no evidence” (Yes there is – Gottlieb spoke about this, so has Azar) (there is plenty) and they will go after companies who make those claims.

These videos and more are archived (thanks Fig!) HERE.

They showed they are idealistically and morally bankrupt.


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“THEY” couldn’t CONTROL the conversation

While political clout got them there, the power and prestige they are normally are accustomed to was meaningless to President Trump.

Dare I say, unethical.

Trump seemed painfully aware of the body parts groups focusing on the children™ without any substance. His question asked for their solution.

This time there was no controlled environment – no national stage to speak and walk away from. It wasn’t just their narrative. They were – for the first time in history-not in charge or control of the conversation.

See, the thing about the industry representatives is – they were listening. They were interacting with the President. Those allegedly representing “public health“, political front group NGOs were not listening. They simply waited to reply to him. If data, science, or less harmful alternatives was mentioned – they tried to drown it out by repeating various angles of their nursery rhyme – “Think of the children”™.

By the reaction and follow up questions by President Trump, it seemed he was well aware of their tactics. It seemed each time he asked any of the “health” body parts groups for a solution, he received the same scripted answers and reactions (in no particular order):

  • Ban it – but don’t ban it
  • Mention unrelated dangers carefully
  • Use the ever-popular Think of the children™
  • Mention “nicotine is addictive” whenever possible
  • Stroke his ego Remind him of his 9/11 statement
  • If smokers and less harmful alternatives are brought up: “Everyone talk at once“!
  • Drown out and talk over anything to do with harm reduction, data, science, law, or jobs

Adhering to and referring Trump to his original plan of bans made them look arrogant and unprepared. He already changed his mind once. By using that strategy – in my opinion – it showed their only motive and insulted his intelligence. We all know who they are.

In fact, as I watched – “their” strategy, I couldn’t help thinking their approach was narrowly thought out. After all the years of doing what they do, they never had and didn’t prepare, a concrete solution. Confident in advance, they didn’t think it was necessary for any solution but their own. They didn’t need – forgive me for the gratuitous pun – an alternative solution. What exactly is it they “do” again? They don’t have answers.

We were prepared, articulate, and brought multiple solutions to the table.

I don’t recall political front groups mentioning or demanding cigarettes come off the market immediately.

We all know we got exactly what we expected from the body parts groups. That doesn’t matter. The focus on harm reduction, of insane policies being proposed, the exact same concern for children as the front groups have, and the importance of flavors became clearer to President Trump – as long as we were heard over their incessant chanting.


So what will come of this meeting?

In no particular order:

Did the stance of the one-sided morality crusade persuade President Trump once he heard both sides?

Did we raise and a much larger concern in his mind for public health, freedom of individual choices for less harmful products, and is there hope for the process of democracy in our county?

  • This is NOT over
  • Taxes are still on the table
  • How can we be more effective?
  • Can we build MORE momentum?
  • CAN industry change the PMTA before May?
  • Will there be more meetings with consumers?
  • Will there be MORE progress after this session?
  • Can there be change in restrictive local/state regulations?
  • Are we able to say we’ve changed the conversation nationally?
  • Will this change the course of the industry and harm reduction?
  • Will the alleged “health” groups stop denying science and data?

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This photo was blatantly poached, snagged and stolen from one of these two attorneys for the purposes of this blog.

I hope I don’t miss anyone participating in this meeting, but I want to thank (in no particular order):

Every single one of you, who called the White House, tweeted, hash-tagged, made some noise… (and will continue to do so!), and all who have come before us, to advocate for less harmful choices to smoking.

President Trump.

Joe Grogan.

Ryan Nivakoff from Njoy.

Mr. Fragnito of Reynolds.

Scott Eley from the American E-liquid Manufacturing Standards Association (AEMSA).

Gregory Conley from the American Vaping Association (AVA).

Tony Abboud from the Vapor Technology Association (VTA).

Christopher Butler and Paul Blair from Americans for Tax Reform.

I believe the person representing convenience stores was Mr. Armour (couldn’t find an official title).


For some reason, Jerry decided to tweet his sentiment about the meeting, so I had to troll him.




While we can all armchair quarterback and “would’ve / could’ve” this meeting until the cows come home… I am proud of the ruckus, I am hopeful there will be more meetings with President Trump and urge him to take positive steps to change national conversations with consumersour voices, represented by CASAA. We need to continue to CHANGE the conversation daily. To be louder. To show up at hearings. ALL the stuff you already know.

Maybe we should step on We, the people’s lawn more often.

I am convinced Schell Hammel read this blog on Friday night in advance after chatting with her on Smoke-Free Radio!


CASAA released its statement HERE.

Comprehensive coverage of this event by Jim McDonald is available here.

You can read the full transcript of the meeting here.

You can watch the complete coverage of President Trump’s discussion unfold here.


Run-on sentence alert bonus:

If you told me back on May 23rd of 2013 I would create a blog, author a survey, email & call local, state and federal officials, tweet like a madman, participate in state organization meetings, come to despise and distrust what I thought was the epitome of “public health“, travel to Milwaukee, Wisconsin to see a 1 1/2 hour movie, make friends around the country and worldwide, publicly challenge the claim of addiction to nicotine, travel to Washington D.C. to rally against my own government to protest a ban less harmful products
because officials calling themselves “public health” demanded it, and then see some of those people I admire take a seat at the table with the President of the United States because my wife and I quit smoking… I’d have told you to pound sand.


Before you go, a cautionary tale from Lou Ritter:

This isn’t over…


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Our Voices: We, The People

I was LOOKING at the WHITE HOUSE.

Over the weekend, I took a little trip to Washington, D.C. to exercise my first amendment rights with a few friends. It’s kind of a thing, speaking my mind. Knock, knock, Mr. President.


On Friday, while I traveled to D.C., President Trump stated they’d be coming out with a “very important position on vaping” and mentioned raising the age to “21 or so”, as reported here. I saw that on the eve of what would be, in my mind, a historic showing of consumers the following afternoon. On September 11th, he’d already stated bans were coming.

It didn’t matter what I heard. The Office of Management and Budget had already cancelled appointments the week before. None of that mattered, we were already knocking on his WE, The People’s door. We were prepared to make a unified statement about our CHOICE for less harmful products remaining available.

Many had already arrived, more were on the way, and you could feel the passion.

I want to thank EVERYONE wearing those vests. They were invaluable in keeping this rally safe and smooth.

They said it couldn’t be done

Humor me: If you’d told me I was going to be in D.C. – at the White House – because I stopped smoking….. well – here I was with what I hoped to be thousands of others. Why? Because we’re adults. Because we’re consumers. And small businesses. And we’re all frustrated and angry.

We were in our nation’s capital – to have our voices heard, to exercise our rights and responsibility: “The right to freedom of association is recognized as a human right, a political right and a civil liberty” as so many had done before us.


For YEARS

We’ve listened to PHINO’s (Public Health In Name Only) lie. They’ve altered presentations. We’ve watched them conduct themselves with bias, without accountability, interpreting, manipulating, and misrepresenting “dangers” and hyperinflated youth data.

For YEARS

We’ve been completely dismissed… ignored. Preempted, with hostility. Talked down to. Talked over. Not included in the conversation. We’ve been lied to in court hearings, lied about in the press. Small businesses (and consumers) have been accused of “marketing to children“.

For YEARS…

…we’ve been called what could not be further from the truth: Addicts, Anecdotes, Bots, Impugners, Sheep, Shills, and worse. (I am kind of fond of being called a bot, though.)

For YEARS…

…despite the fact that there are plenty of examples of reasonable regulatory steps, “trusted public health experts” and non-governmental organizations quietly sit with mouths clamped shut, standing with hands open, choosing demanding (and hiding cowardly behind) Master Settlement Agreement funding, instead of putting forth effort by making an already less harmful choice for the world – better.

THOSE people hide behind the illusion of “helping”.


I’d heard “we should go to Washington” so many times, I didn’t care if there were 9 people or 90, or 900, or 9,000.


For YEARS…

we’ve watched politicians demanding (and recently invoking) bans for anything but cigarettes. We’ve watched media vultures – gnawing on every buzzword like “deaths” of unrelated, illegal products – to bring it all full circle… to regulate, restrict, tax & ban any and all forms of less harmful products, and flavors.


So yeah, I was excitedly in our nation’s capital… with a growing crowd of pissed off people fighting peacefully for freedom of choice against the threat of BANS of less harmful adult flavored products for everyone across the country, and quite possibly the world. If they could get away with this, what other abuse of power and criminal acts can non-governmental organizations and “public health ‘experts” get away with? Knock, knock, Mr. President.

NO more.


If you build it, they will come

While it may not have looked difficult for this to have been accomplished, preparations and logistics HAD to be handled. This was White House property. There was National Park Service & Secret Service to coordinate EVERYTHING with. There were all volunteer marshals for safety & logistics – and it couldn’t have been done without them in place.

The United Vapers Alliance planned & coordinated anything and everything that could have been thought of (<-video). This was not just pulling into the park with the family and having a picnic. This was the nation’s capital. Anyone or everyone “could” have been removed at any time by the National Park Service or Secret Service at their discretion – for the slightest infraction.

There were rules for everyone to follow & abide by. Restrooms were at least a ten-minute walk away. A first aid station. Assigned people for talking to the media. There were to be no bags left unattended. Permits to be obtained. We wanted to be HEARD, so stage and sound had to be rented and set up. Signs were ordered. Radios were needed. The coordination and the flow of speakers… cleanup… and leaving the park just the way we’d found it.

All we were waiting on were YOU, the people. We knew they were coming from Alaska, Georgia, Tennessee… New York… Ohio… Florida… and they were coming by the busload… some were already in the park and coordinating the days event.


Wait… Secret Service said we had to vacate the area, (we knew it could happen) because President Trump was flying out. When the Secret Service says move, you MOVE. Most went across the street to the Washington Monument.

This photo was stolen approximately one gazillion times from, and credit to: John Glauser

While almost everyone waited across the street, the President flew directly OVERHEAD… so he SAW us… He must have thought – that many people must be serious if they’re willing to travel, stay, congregate, and assemble peacefully as WE, the PEOPLE, in Washington, D.C. on a cold Saturday afternoon.


“History is full of disapproval of or objection to something “someone else” didn’t like.” ~ Me.


President Trump was gone, but We, The PEOPLE, were NOT.

The Secret Service were extremely kind and held traffic for us WE, The PEOPLE to get back across Constitution Ave. Here we are streaming back into the park after the flyover.

Back to business at hand, folks – back in the park we go. We’re coming back in…and more were almost here on various buses. (One of my photos.)

YOU, the people, came.

The vast majority of us use flavors. We’ve TOLD them that. It has been submitted to the FDA. Without linking it all, authorities HAVE data.

We came to speak our collective minds. We were #LOUDER. (Thanks, Sherwin!) We are, and have been tired of being lied to, lied about, and ignored.

Speakers spoke. The crowd listened. “We Vape, We Vote“.


How many were in the crowd? I don’t know the total number in attendance at this historic event, but I know I missed finding and meeting some of you. That’s how many came. So, speculation of numbers? More than 9, more than 90, and more than 900. Hats, hoodies & sunglasses disguised (us) some of you – but I found a few… gratefully, a few, like Amanda Wheeler, found me!

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The amazing Amanda Wheeler & I!

I wandered around – surfing the crowd –like a bot– listening to the speakers. Taking photos, taking the moment in – still dumbfounded I was standing in eyesight of the WHITE HOUSE with thousands of others who had simply quit smoking, having to FIGHT for our rights to flavors because we didn’t quit smoking the way “they” wanted us to.

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Another image stolen by me and probably thousands of others by now (I don’t know who to credit!)

I saw familiar digital faces, some I didn’t recognize until I heard their name. I shook hands, got hugs, saw Brent Stafford from Regulator Watch covering the event. (See his site for interviews!!!)

Then, while behind the stage I heard Business Insider, Buzzfeed, CNN, Fox, NBC, NPR, and Vice (who said the rally “was relentlessly sincere“), were also there.

Rolling Stone was there. HUH!

One of my photos while James Jarvis spoke.

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I said to myself and others about 5,000 times Saturday: “Holy shit, I’m in front of the White House. It’s about F’n TIME”. And just like that, harm reduction-this cause, is national news…

Whether you came or not, if you read this blog, YOU had a place here in Washington, D.C. on November 9th. YOUR consumer voice was represented. If you weren’t there, you were tweeting and flooding the switchboards (ring, ring, Mr. President) with calls to the White House.


I proudly carried this sign.

“We vape, we vote”.

What was the message? The message was “to educate the public and politicians regarding the benefits of harm reduction via vapor products, and will strongly convey that changes must be made, within the FDA, to provide an economically feasible pathway to market.” (Source) including FLAVORS.

Here’s 28 seconds of Gregory Conley explaining:


Here’s Alex Clark explaining:


You may ask – was this necessary?

After all, President Trump had already left for a football game. Was he listening? Did he care? I’ll answer: YES. Period.

Was this rally important?

  • Was it #LOUDER? YES.
  • Did it make an impact? YES
  • Was the timing right? I’ll get to that.
  • Did this rally change the conversation? YES.
  • Do I think we got our collective message across? Hell yes.
  • Was explaining how our voting power in swing states could change an election? Yep.
  • Was the effort and collaboration of consumers showing their faces in D.C. worth it? Hell yes.

Was it “worth it” to get national press, and for our President, the leader of the free world, explaining on Veteran’s Day, that he’d be meeting to come up with an acceptable solution in less than 48 hours after the event?

Pay attention to CASAA’s words: “...the MAIN STAKEHOLDERS in this issue are the millions of voting CONSUMERS who rely on these products.”

Abso-damn-lutely.

By any means, this isn’t over. This fight has just begun.

Consumers need small businesses, and small businesses need organizations who represent them all – to have their collective voices heard.

Two months after announcing his administration would “clear the market”- to the day, he decided he will “be meeting with representatives of the Vaping industry”.

Did this rally give pressure to change the President’s MIND or give pause to his decisions concerning our freedoms? I certainly hope so.

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The world was watching.

No one had done this before.

Will this event be analyzed or criticized? Possibly, yes.

Without question, We conducted ourselves in a civilized manner – and had some of the loudest voices in the nation representing you, the people, in a civilized manner.

I have hope that if you were unable to attend this event, you tweeted, called the White House, and saw that if it can be done in Washington, D.C., it can be done anywhere in the country.

I hope it inspires and motivates you to DO that very same thing in your area, and to show up at city and state hearings. I hope it inspires you to be #louder.


Thank YOU.

I’d like to thank ALL donors, speakers, organizations, and importantly, the marshals and all the attendees for showing up to help make this event HAPPEN. I’d like to thank the Secret Service and National Park Service staff for guidance and information crucial to having a successful event.

I thank consumers and small businesses who couldn’t make it, but called the White House, and tweeted, and write their representatives, and continue to keep awareness up all the time.

I thank Sherwin Mena, Tristan Thompson, Matthew Salter, Tammy Michaud, Matthew Elliott, Allen Davis, Cory Amedio, and Matt Culley for allowing me to join them in what was a pivotal and historic moment and effort for this community and cause I love dearly. Fighting for themselves, each other, you, small businesses, and future smokers who have the RIGHT to choose to switch to a less harmful alternative, with flavors of their choice…


Mike Peterson chats with Sherwin Mena, Nick Orlando, and James Jarvis about the rally here.


Jim McDonald just released his article about the rally over at Vaping 360, you can read it HERE.


On a personal note – I reflected quietly – with my mind racing on the drive home… about the awe-inspiring experience, realizing I’d been a part of history. I was VERY proud of us.

In hindsight, I have just one regret for November 9th… I didn’t think to call the White House to oppose a flavor ban between speakers, and invite the President to come visit us from the stage myself… of course, he’d already left for a football game.


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