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Vaping In The News–May 6th, 2017

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Vaping In The News – April 30th – May 6th, 2017

Coordination with the FDA: Hartland, Wisconsin ~ Please Keep Smoking Award ~ Smoke Some More ~ Views & News On Cole Bishop ~ There’s A List ~ Coverup, Judicial Watch ~ Senator Johnson ~ Truth Initiative ~ Health aspects of e-cigarettes ~ Fergus Mason ~ Nicotine


Hartland, Wisconsin

Imagine for a moment that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has overstepped their authority in “deeming” anything to do with e-cigarettes.

Imagine #EnoughIsEnough:

Coordination with the FDA: Hartland, Wisconsin Holds Public Hearings


Please Keep Smoking Award

State Rep. Mary Jo Daley, (D-PA) is the recipient of this week’s “Please Keep Smoking” award. Seems the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network likes to give out “awards” to keep people smoking.

Here’s her shameless self-promotion piece:

Daley earns ‘Distinguished Advocacy Award’ from American Cancer Society


FDA: Please Keep Smoking More

The FDA likes smoking so much, they have an initiative to figure out how to keep people smoking under an “initiative” to pretend to get them to smoke “less”.

I thought the FDA’s purpose was to regulate, not initiate.

I covered “lower nicotine” and 22nd Century here in March of last year…

“The company’s cigarettes are part of an estimated $20 million FDA initiative to determine “the best method to quit smoking

there’s more, as I predicted.

22nd Century gets FDA authorization for low tar-to-nicotine cigarette clinical trial


Views & News On Cole Bishop

Oliver Kershaw

Cole Bishop just failed. What now?

Jim McDonald

Cole-Bishop budget rider fails. Here’s what we need to do!

Tony Ottomanelli II

Cole-Bishop HR 1136 Update: Must-Know Need to Know Info


There’s a list:

Open Secrets has this article highlighting the “Top recipients of contributions from the tobacco industry, 2016 cycle”

Big tobacco in 2017: Full steam ahead

My pal DrMA asked them this question:


Covering up the obvious isn’t enough.

The FDA is batting 1,000 with non-answers – as if they were above the law.

With Former FDA Commissioner Margaret Hamburg under R.I.C.O. charges, Senator Ron Johnson being ignored last year asking the FDA repeatedly to produce documentation, and Hartland asking questions above, Judicial Watch has asked, through the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) for – well – information.

I’ll wait.

Judicial Watch Sues over Records on Obama E-Cig Regs

Here’s their video on the matter.



Senator Ron Johnson

Johnson Applauds Trump Administration for Delaying Harmful E-Cigarette Rule


Truth Initiative Whines & Brags

Skip is certain.

Here’s the whining & bragging:

What 2017’s first Congressional appropriations deal means for tobacco control


WorldWide Survey

This SURVEY is still going:

The Tobacco Harm Reduction Association of Canada (THRA) is conducting this survey for anyone – ANYONE to take. Smokers, non-smokers, vapers.

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The importance of your voice is NEEDED.

Please take the survey HERE.


Health aspects of e-cigarettes

Need a document for your physician?

Well…

Here is that link:

Health aspects of e-cigarettes – Short information for Physicians


The Fergus Mason:

FDA e-cig ban under fire from all sides as safety evidence mounts


Nicotine

Via Jim McDonald

Remember, folks, “nicotine” is now tobacco.

People are usually interested in how long nicotine remains in the system because their employer wants to test for nicotine, either as a condition of employment, or more commonly to determine the cost of health insurance.

How long does nicotine stay in your system?

 



NEWS from my friends across the pond: Vapers.org.uk.

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Medical, Research, Science Professionals:

Research:


Politics:

E-Cigarette Politics 


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More to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

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Vaping In The News – March 25th, 2017

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Vaping In The News – March 19th – 25th, 2017

Nicotine Addiction ~ Canada ~ Austrailia ~ Professor Glantz ~ E-cigarette myths should go up in smoke ~ Dr. Farsalinos ~ Common Sense ~ Conspiracy ~ Battery Safety ~ A New Leaf: Vaping, E-Cigs & The Future of Tobacco at SXSW 2017


FUNDRAISER

Nicotine Addiction: An Open 30-Day Public Health Challenge.

This is a fundraiser for ecigarette-research.org for further research by Dr. Farsalinos and his colleagues and a challenge for public health to prove nicotine addiction without tobacco or MAOI’s.

So far the challenge has raised $215.00, and one challenge has been submitted.

While many have been shown the challenge, there have been no submissions from “public health experts“:

Nicotine Addiction: An Open 30-Day Public Health Challenge


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Canada:

Tobacco is safe. It’s just formalities.

David Sweanor…has been refused the opportunity to testify on Bill S-5 before the Senate Standing Committee of Social Affairs, Science and Technology (SOCI).

You can show your support here with this ThunderClap:

#LetDavidSpeak:


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Australia:

More formalities. Tobacco is still safe.

I will remind you of Clive Bates:

Do not read this or discuss it and in no circumstances should you comment

Then you can read this.

Scheduling delegate’s final decisions, March 2017.


Africa

They don’t want vaping in Africa. They like tobacco. Good to know.


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The Emporer has blogged.

Glantz, who isn’t one of the elite royalty mentioned in this report, decided “As one of the 120 “leaders” who responded to the poll used to construct this document”, he strongly objects to the use of the subtitle, and spelled “necessarily” incorrectly as “necessarity” wrong – which leads one to believe he may, might, could  – or it is possible, he’s an idiot.

If you’re unfamiliar with Professor Glantz, he’s covered here from Paul: Rotund Reaver.

I’ve blogged about the mechanical genius here and here.

New report does not necessarity reflect “the views of 120 leaders in tobacco control”


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Tobacco Control Experts

Tobacco control experts have so much blood time on their hands – they have to waste time with a conspiracy session.

Drink the tea, Alice – find yourself a nice mushroom stool.

Control has wasted over 50 years sitting on the floor with crayons – pretending to “fight”.


More of this, please

In their zeal to punish the evil tobacco industry, many have thrown the baby out with the bathwater by ignoring scientific evidence, mislabeling e-cigarettes as dangerous tobacco products and stifling, and restricting access to, a technology that helps tens of thousands of people — perhaps more — safely and effectively quit smoking every year.

E-cigarette myths should go up in smoke


Speaking of Dr. Farsalinos

“He pointed to the example of a conference organised by the tobacco industry in Brussels last year, where scientists were sent letters criticising their participation by a US anti-smoking group – even though they had no links to the tobacco industry.”

Researcher claims ‘academic McCarthyism’ over e-cigarettes

One letter sent was here:

The criticisms Dr. Farsalinios speaks of in the quote with 7 others is here.

The URL was definitely not the title of the article:

www.heraldscotland. com/news /15166477.Scientist_defends_links_between_Big_Tobacco_and_vaping_industry/?ref=rss

Now, this has story has two parts, and Phil called it.

Dr. Farsalinos was misinterpreted in the article:

My job is to defend science and evidence, not any industries. In that respect, and after waiting for 24h for the journalist to revise, I am obliged to denounce an article published in the Sunday Herald Scotland in which I am MISINTERPRETED as defending links between the tobacco and vaping industries and characterizing attacks on research into vaping funded by Big Tobacco were a form of “academic McCarthyism”.

Dr. Farsalinos’ full response is here:

Defending science, NOT industries: denouncing an article in the Sunday Herald Scotland


A bit of common sense:

Berkeley Professor Uses Common Sense To Back Vaping


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Battery Safety

UL will be testing “tobacco products”:

UL, a leading global safety science organization, is announcing acceptance of product submittals of electronic cigarettes, also known as e-cigarettes, for construction evaluation, testing and North American certification.

E-Cigarette Construction Evaluation Now Provided by UL

Battery safety is also covered here, here & here


What Jason is LINKING to is HERE.


A New Leaf: Vaping, E-Cigs & The Future of Tobacco at SXSW 2017.

It’s an hour well worth spending with Cynthia Cabrera, Dr.Sally Satel, and  David Sweanor, J.D.


NEWS from my friends across the pond: Vapers.org.uk.

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Medical, Research, Science Professionals:

Research:


Politics:

E-Cigarette Politics 


Consumers Groups:


A Billion Lives

This isn’t over:


Your comments are NEVER filtered, always encouraged and welcome on this blog.

More to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

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Keep smoking, we’ll just help you lower your nicotine.

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They still insist nicotine is addictive. Dangerous, even. “They” claim more dangerous than heroin. That’s pretty drastic. Kind of scares me. Fine, dear reader, it doesn’t scare me. It scares the government enough, though, eh?

I’d like to sit down with “they” for a few hours, have some coffee. Discuss a few finer points of life in general, chat a bit, and tell them now they’re trying to convince everyone it’s the nicotine.

I say it’s NOT the nicotine. Stimulant, like coffee I’ll agree with. Drug? Fine.

Addictive? No. I’ve covered that here.

You know that doesn’t matter!

Update: Nicotine is not addictive.

They’re not listening to us. They have tobacco fields to tend to!

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Are there other chemicals that cause addiction in tobacco?
MAIO’s?

Are There Other Chemicals That May Contribute to Tobacco Addiction?


The FDA says – and non-committal as it sounds, that it does not “appear to have significant potential for abuse or dependence….. ” (addiction).

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So, to make my prediction, since the New England Journal of Medicine released this

Randomized Trial of Reduced-Nicotine Standards for Cigarettes

Aaaand – The National Institute on Drug Abuse released this:

New Study Shows Benefits of Reducing Nicotine in Cigarettes

(Took their time to create and then tweeted this state of the art graphic:)

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Briefly – they mention towards the end of their “official” story:

(This is where the perpetuate their lie) –>Nicotine is responsible for the addictiveness of tobacco, but it is not the ingredient that causes cancer and heart and pulmonary diseases.

Smoking still causes nearly half a million deaths each year in our country. Research now suggests that reducing the nicotine in cigarettes to a fraction of its current levels may be one way to lessen the health-destructive power of these products.


Now, with all that, the media – because they do love a good story, I predict that this:

New ‘low-nicotine’ cigarette could help smokers kick habit

“It is our hope, that because that this is such an intrinsic health concern that we will be able to get this approved in a swift and fast process,” Gellman said.

The company will be working toward FDA approval by the end of 2016……   Huh.

I hate math, but let us do it quickly, shall we? I have a prediction to make!

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Will lead to this:

Thank you, Jake Jacobson:

People will still smoke. People will try and use these, and someone in the professional health field will still say these are “safer”.

People will believe this is “safer”. Because they said so. Tobacco obviously isn’t the issue.

So, e-cigarettes are not safer? Huh.

Are. You. Stupid?

Added 9/7/17

Brad Rodu said this in 2010:

Down the Rabbit Hole: Tobacco Control Through Radical Nicotine Reduction

Here’s what Clive Bates has to say about

Reducing the nicotine content to make cigarettes less addictive


Update 5/25/16:

I’m a friggin’ mind reader.  Predictions come true…

They don’t mind the tobacco.

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22nd Century launches magic 0 very low nicotine cigarettes in France

Could the Worlds Most Effective Quit Smoking Aid be a Low Nicotine Cigarette US Public Health Officials Think So

“The U.S. Food and Drug Association (FDA) funded a landmark study that showed 22nd Century’s proprietary Very Low Nicotine cigarettes were “associated with reductions in smoking, nicotine exposure, and nicotine dependence, with minimal evidence of nicotine withdrawal, compensatory smoking, or serious adverse events.” See study here: Randomized Trial of Reduced-Nicotine Standards for Cigarettes.”


Updated 6/22/16:

The prediction is better than I though:

“…scientists with The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) published a detailed characterization of the Company’s SPECTRUM® Variable Nicotine Research Cigarettes, calling 22nd Century’s proprietary cigarettes an “important tool in clinical studies for investigating…

“the independent study was conducted by a prestigious team of 18 senior CDC scientists”

22nd Century’s Proprietary SPECTRUM® Cigarettes Identified as Crucial Tool in Human Addiction Studies

Added 01/06/2017

FDA sends feedbacks to an MRTP application for Very-Low Nicotine Cigarettes

And added 05/02/17

I can’t believe my eyes.

Quote:

The company’s cigarettes are part of an estimated $20 million FDA initiative to determine “the best method to quit smoking: an immediate reduction in nicotine to non-addictive levels vs. a gradual reduction in nicotine.”

The FDA said Monday it has nothing to share concerning the 22nd Century statement.

That’s all here:

22nd Century gets FDA authorization for low-nicotine cigarette clinical trial

 

Added 6/10/17

 

22nd Century Produces Non-GMO Very Low Nicotine Tobacco



And they wonder why Vapers have contempt toward government and health officials over e-cigarettes


Remember, Simon says: Quit or die.

Speaking of BAT in the UK: Now there’s a “safer” e-cigarette – because “scientists” developed it, it must be true.

New ‘safer’ e-cigarette with all the flavor of tobacco but ‘less harmful smoke’ is developed by scientists



From 2007, FDA Director Dr. Andrew von Eschenbach had quite a bit to say:

“We could find ourselves in the conundrum of having made a decision about nicotine only to have made the public health radically worse. And that is not the position FDA is in; we approve products that enhance health, not destroy it,” said von Eschenbach, a urologic surgeon and oncologist who was confirmed as FDA commissioner in December.

Later in the article:

“In an hourlong interview with AP reporters and editors, von Eschenbach repeatedly said the FDA doesn’t need more regulatory authority. When asked if the FDA needed more money, he suggested the agency needs to look at “enhancing our efficiencies, maximizing our outputs for the dollar invested on part of the American people.”

Here’s that article”

FDA Chief: Tobacco Rules Could Backfire

Added 02/10/17

Reduced nicotine content cigarettes and use of alternative nicotine products: exploratory trial


***Added 03/05/17***

22nd Century Group (XXII) X-22 Smoking Cessation Aid Granted FDA Guidance Meeting

Added 04/25/17

Reduced nicotine content cigarette advertising: How false beliefs and subjective ratings affect smoking behavior.

Prescribing Smoking:

Added 9/17

Um… they’re PRESCRIBING smoking.

X-22 is the first and only smoking cessation product in the form of a combustible cigarette.

X-22 is a six-week prescription treatment which utilizes Very Low Nicotine (VLN) cigarettes (95% less nicotine than conventional cigarettes) to satisfy a smoker’s craving for cigarettes while separating the act of smoking from the rapid delivery of nicotine.

X-22 Smoking Cessation Aid In Development

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This is its American brand sold in more than 600 stores. It is a high nicotine cigarette. It might seem counterintuitive, especially given the health benefits claimed by its very low nicotine cigarettes, but high nicotine cigarettes could have significant health benefits as well.

X-22 has certain advantages:

  • It’s a cigarette, people seem to prefer that

  • It has no side effects, apart from the harmful effects of cigarette smoke

  • It has been proved effective in six clinical trials

22nd Century’s Unique Cigarettes Create Growth Opportunities

This is coming.

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Are there other chemicals that cause addiction in tobacco?
MAIO’s?

Are There Other Chemicals That May Contribute to Tobacco Addiction?

Added 09/25/2017:

You still don’t believe this is happening? The U.S. Government invested $100+ million to keep people smoking.


Please, blow social media UP. Tell your non-smoking – non-vaping friends & family members they are being LIED to by these organizations and politicians worldwide.

TELL them about A Billion Lives.



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E-cigarette Research is HERE.

MORE e-cigarette research is also HERE.

Medical Professionals  go HERE.

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More to come!

Keep ON #Vaping On.

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Toxic Media. E-Cigarettes And Journalism.

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Journalists. They spit out low quality fairy tales as fast as an e-cigarette study hits their untrained eye. Such articles give one an eye-opening glimpse into the many “amateur hour” hacks pretending to be “writers” there really are.

What a BUNCH of kumquats. I would be embarrassed to attach my name on  such a lack of “efforts” in “journalism” I’ve seen. I can only refer to the skill in which these articles were written as piss-poor. Most of these reek of the kind of stench you find in a port-a-john in a late summer fair full of experts.

With all the articles I see on e-cigarettes in a given week from the “press” and “reliable sources”, MOST are written as if they were made up by the half-assed skill of an 11 year old child. Still, after all this time e-cigarettes have been on the market, most journalists show very little fact checking skills and write about them with little to no knowledge of e-cigarettes.

The problem is, those who don’t know better…

may believe them.

These are irresponsible and unacceptable misinformation machines.

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Media today can barely put a comprehensive report out on e-cigarettes without sensationalism. They boldly publish and promote false statements and outright lies without apologies, without evidence, without integrity. There is evidently no pride lost in slinging their feces…

They squealed about “formaldehyde”, which was false, but very few put forth any effort to type about Public Health England?

 


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I am an amateur blogger. I’m not a professional writer, yet I put most of you to shame (both sides of this blog and previous posts for PLENTY of content) with proper information for a smoker contemplating e-cigarettes and what they need to know.

Sadly, I write better than most of you, and I’m not a writer by profession. Most of you proudly show lack of intelligence with each new “story”. See – that’s the thing, most of you are just telling stories. You’re specializing in e-cigarettes. E-cigarette fiction writers. Almost ass-hat like.

Am I being condescending? Yes, yes I am. Patronizing? Fine, if that’s how you feel. Some of you refer to e-cigarettes as smoking, so….we’re not on the same page. Work on that.


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Some reporters are obviously too stupid or unable to put two sentences together coherently, they string a reader along by almost always starting off by describing an e-cigarette. Most of it is “expert copy & paste skills” from what I see. Regurgitating the same thing over and over and over again…. each article seems to have a theme.


 

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Requirements, evidently, for being a piss-poor journalist:

Mention gateways and children, but rarely mention “the children“.

Mention flavors, but rarely mention that “adults like flavors”.

Mention nicotine is addictive but never mention “nicotine“.

Mention approved methods, but don’t show “those methods aren’t as successful“.

Mention chemicals, but rarely mention “Chemicals“.

Mention health benefits, but never mention “health benefits

Mention we don’t know enough, but never mention that “Research is available here and here.”.

Mention laws, taxes & bans using the above descriptions but NEVER mention the truth on “Regulations, Restrictions, Taxes, Bans“.

Mention experts are on the fence about e-cigarettes, but have never talked to people on or  along “experts on this side of that fence“.

They almost NEVER mention reaching out to talk to ANY organization.


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Research, in journalism  – or at least this type of journalism isn’t acceptable to the public.

They rarely retract a story, when they do it’s barely mentioned in unrelated news or withOUT fanfare like the original story was bled to death.

Almost incessantly they will either allow comments until they don’t like them, will not allow certain comments, will delete them all or not allow them to begin with.


 

They LOVE exploding batteries. Here’s Christopher Russell on that:

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Update on a 2nd one from Christoper Russell:

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These wannabe’s take objectivity out, add in a five-gallon bucket of drivel, DON’T check facts, add in their own stupidity and use scary words like toxins – and makes a half-assed story go full ass.


 

One of the consequences of *#DailyPropaganda:

(*Thank you, Alan)

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According to Wikipedia-(a source evidently not concerned with standards in facts):

Journalism has developed a variety of ethics and standards. While objectivity and a lack of bias are of primary concern and importance, more liberal types of journalism, such as advocacy journalism and activism, intentionally adopt a non-objective viewpoint. This has become more prevalent with the advent of social media and blogs, as well as other platforms that are used to manipulate or sway social and political opinions and policies. These platforms often project extreme bias, as “sources” are not always held accountable or considered necessary in order to produce a written, televised or otherwise “published” end product.

 

Fergus Mason has his view of

Wikipedia, and why it matters.

 


 

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Please, keep in mind  -whether you are the largest major news corporation, or the smallest, I AM talking to YOU.

Do as you wish, “journalists”. Follow the pack, parasites. Keep going with  your “hard-hitting” fluff that your friends admire. You must be proud of that degree in typing.


“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

~Joseph Goebbels

There’s something controversial coming soon. It’s going to sting. This information you’re going to see in this trailer isn’t a secret. It may show that you are truly inept at research, that you are unwilling or unable to use your alleged education in journalism, or you’re just plain stupid. This could have been your story.

You, and all who have “Plausible Deniability” or who are “experts in tobacco control” might want to be attentive to this video from A Billion Lives.

It is a documentary about lies. Media, Government, Pharmaceuticals, Health and more. You know… all of you who should be paying attention instead of lying your full asses off…. or you may get dishonorable mention in this.

 


 

Here are just some of the unedited comments  “Real People ~ Real Answers” from the latest survey, unedited on question #34:

What is your opinion on reports you’ve seen in the media ?


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Tired of seeing ‘know nothing asshats’ pretending to be experts on vaping.
Tuesday, Oct 6th 5:24AM


 

A lot of media coverage on this is made by people who have not done their research.
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 8:18AM


 

It’s a mix in the UK these days
Wednesday, Sep 9th 12:29AM


 

Media used to relay the facts, today they only care about what sells. They have clearly taken a side before any interviews have started, some have affiliations with other companies or political views and stick to that no matter what truth is presented to them.

The honest truth should be shown on ALL media outlets, they should not be allowed to have a bias in any direction, the facts are what are important.
Sunday, Aug 16th 3:11AM


 

I tend to look for articles on ecigs and see many that talk about benefits and share them with others, but my sources are usually ecig positive, and I ignore the negative media reports from outside my sphere.
Saturday, Aug 8th 3:07PM


 

It seems hard to find legit studies and information that prove or disprove anything. More independent studies from sources that are not affiliated with smoking or vaping would be nice to see.
Sunday, Aug 2nd 8:00PM


 

The reports filled with blatant lies against vapor products were making me angry, so I stopped reading/watching them.
Those that are lying should be held responsible.
Saturday, Aug 1st 7:59PM


 

i find the media headlines negative aspects of vaping and e cigarettes way over the top. E cigarette and battery fires, exploding batteries etc are usually due to lack of knowledge and misuse.  Any battery powered device can a do explode, set on fire etc, but the media don’t report these instances the same way they do with e cigarettes.
Friday, Jul 31st 6:56PM


 

The amount of biased/ill informed propaganda circulating both in media and on social network is, in my opinion, disgraceful!
Thursday, Jul 30th 2:03PM


 

To the last point “I’ve seen more experts than can possibly exist” it’s more like “experts”. People who let others think they know what they are talking about
Wednesday, Jul 29th 9:50AM


 

I have seen news which are made up to make e cig sounds bad, but truly it has nothing to do with e cig.
Tuesday, Jul 28th 3:02PM


 

The media know fuck all and need to a few lessons in vaping!
Monday, Jul 27th 12:59PM


 

i have seen and heard way too many lies by people who are “experts” saying that its bad and targeting kids. i want them to support vaping rather than trying to get rid of the only actual effective way to quit smoking
Sunday, Jul 26th 4:30PM


 

most of the reports are outrageous and test the vaping device at levels that no person would actually use it at, because at those levels you no longer have the actual taste of the e liquid you have nothing but a burnt taste
Sunday, Jul 26th 1:11AM


 The never ending saga of a biased media and their sheeple.
Saturday, Jul 25th 11:55AM


 

its unballanced and there is too much scaremungering going on from very ignorant people
Wednesday, Jul 22nd 8:47AM


 

Big tobacco money talks
Tuesday, Jul 21st 11:52AM


 

It is very confusing trying to figure out what is information from real studies or reliable sources as opposed to what is made up on a non fact based opinion. That goes for both positive and negative information. I have stopped reading anything because I don’t know what to trust is from an accurate source
Sunday, Jul 19th 10:45AM


 

It seems only the sensationalist, biased reports get the big headlines!
Sunday, Jul 19th 11:12AM


 

The media is attracted to negative stories.

From memory, there are 10 million smokers in the UK and 2.6M vapers. Of the vapers about 1M don’t dual use. I’m sure there’s plenty that don’t do either now. There needs to be a Panorama-type program to tell the good news truth about vaping and the money and power behind FDA and EU bans.
Wednesday, Jul 15th 6:33PM


The propaganda is profoundly intellectually dishonest & scientifically incorrect.
Wednesday, Jul 15th 9:37AM


 

Most of what is out there is propoganda and when there is the side of vaping shown (pro vaping) it is far too often denounced. There are reports that show vaping honesty but they are few and far between because the govt does not want vaping to be seen as a good thing
Monday, Jul 13th 4:45PM


 

Junk science that is published them later pulled is stupid and irresponsable once it’s out there people believe it’s gotta be true when it isn’t
Monday, Jul 13th 2:11PM


 

There a a few unbiased reports out there, but most are fear-mongering.
Monday, Jul 13th 1:27PM


 

In the UK, I’ve seen both positive and negative coverage. But in the US it’s much worse, probably because of those vested interests. I do object to pharma companies putting signs in GPs offices saying ‘Don’t vape, stop smoking for good’ as it’s likely to put people off vaping. Vaping can save lives so why tell people not to do it? Insane.
Monday, Jul 13th 11:54AM


 

Heard some ridiculous stories. Battery safety is down to users, same as of you use a mobile phone, I have yet to meet anyone who has had anything more than a slight reaction to the pg. They simply used a Lewis worth more vg.

Monday, Jul 13th 3:30AM


 

Much of the media coverage (print and broadcast) reminds me of reports from the 80s and 90s suggesting that violent video games, television and rock music were responsible for teenagers committing serious crimes. Responsibility is being thrust on industry, rather than on parents, which is borderline atrocious

Sunday, Jul 12th 5:12PM


 

Very seldom do I see fair balanced reporting on the subject and when I see articles they are usually biased and slanted against Vaping and are chock full of misinformation and propaganda. The only fair and balanced information I have seen have been from the vaping industry itself.

Sunday, Jul 12th 2:33PM


 

This is true of a lot of the reports on the news, but I have seen lots of good studies done by professionals based on REAL SCIENCE and accurate reporting standards. I would never say vaping is 100% safe, but some of the reports on the news are just irresponsible and dissuade people from switching from stinkies, when they aren’t even true.

Sunday, Jul 12th 2:15PM


 

The real issue is the indoctrination the media has both received and repeated for the last 50 years from anti-smoking lobbies. It is because of this that all consumer nicotine products are demonized, regardless of potential benefit.

Saturday, Jul 11th 6:43PM


 

There have been both sides of reports on vaping, depends on who is making the statement in the perticular article, I’m sure there will be debates for quite some time, I could care less, I smoked about 40 years , now I vape, I think it was a smart choice for me, I’m not concerned about health issues cause it can’t be worse than smoking, either way I’m apparently not going to live for ever , I’m pretty smart, smart enough to try vaping and get off cigarettes.

Saturday, Jul 11th 2:57AM


 

The impact of what is reported is much more detrimental to those who don’t know any better or TRUST the media.

 

That’s why I’m here.

If I had relied on media reports for information I would have been too concerned with the long term safety of e-cigarette use to try them and I would still be smoking today.

From New York, this individual’s complete response to this survey is here.



“Popcorn” lung came up again in the news.

I suggest a tall glass of liquid to hydrate due to the high salt

The WONDERFUL folks over at Vapers.Org.UK

released a Special Edition on 12/12/15:

I suggest a tall glass of liquid to hydrate due to the high salt content!

A Bucket Of Popcorn.



The FDA has deeming regulations in progress at the moment.

Go here and do something about that.

Then go here as well.



E-cigarette Research is HERE.

MORE e-cigarette research is also HERE.


 Medical Professionals at MOVE are HERE.


Always a work in progress-

please visit my website here.

More to come!

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin.


Regulate. Restrict. Tax. Ban. Taxing E-Cigarettes Like Tobacco.


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The all powerful, all knowing Offices of Management And Budget have the distinct decision of deeming regulations over e-cigarettes.

“Budget”.  Well. What does THAT have to do with e-cigarettes and the country? What does that have to do with the FDA (I thought they were the “authority”) and deeming regulations?

It’s about health, right? It’s about children, right?


If you DON’T know what I’m babbling about, you need to brush up on your information overload by going HERE to CASAA, and HERE immediately afterwards. You don’t even have to read this blog.


Regulate:

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1. to control or direct by a rule, principle, method, etc

regulate

regulations

Restrict:

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1. to confine or keep within limits, as of space, action, choice, intensity, or quantity.

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 restrict

Tax:

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1. a sum of money demanded by a government for its support or for specific facilities or services, levied upon incomes, property, sales, etc.
2. a burdensome charge, obligation, duty, or demand.

verb (used with object)

3. to demand a tax from (a person, business, etc.).

  1. to demand a tax in consideration of the possession or occurrence of (income, goods, sales, etc.), usually in proportion to the value of money involved.

4. to lay a burden on; make serious demands on: to tax one’s resources.

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UntitledWAIT!  NEVER MIND! We disassociated ourselves from that bill!

TAXES were taken out of it!

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Now it does no good?

I thought it was about YOUTH!

Public HEALTH!

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Guess NOT!

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Ban:

ban

1. to prohibit, forbid, or bar; interdict:

2. the act of prohibiting by law; interdiction.


They can’t BAN them. Well…. lean closer to your screen. Countries already have.

Regulations, restrictions, taxes & bans are world WIDE. Here, and HERE.


According to the World Health Associations Margaret Chan, at W.H.O. – this organization does NOT like ecigs, but likes regulations of them ….

W.H.O., HOWEVER DOES like money. It’s a win-win solution!

WHOTAX


 

This, was added 12/12/15 by me from the much admired Brainy Furball.
This isn’t just the United States. This is worldwide.
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Speaking of MARGARET Chan

More from Robert Innes:

When Collusion Is Profitable For Parties – All Six of Them!


I certainly do not believe they will “ban” them in the United States. They have had since 2009 to stew on this. They’ve had PLENTY of time to “deem” them tobacco.

THEN, they have the wording so they can TAX them like tobacco. I’ll get back to that in a minute.

See Steve and his timeline of e-cigarettes in the United States


See, at first, they were probably thought of as a novel idea. E-cigarettes weren’t a threat.

As they evolved into 2nd & 3rd generation styles, they were making a huge dent in cash flow.

Disrupting many aspects of cash flow.


Noticeable in 2000, Pharmaceutical companies feel it –  see smoking cessation aids sales drop.

Pharmaceutical Companies are really feeling it in 2014 in this article:

Nicotine patch, gum sales drop with rise of electronic cigarettes

As E-cigarette sales rose E-cigarette Sales Rising 


Tobacco Companies were going down in 2011… and still are as of September of last year, according to Business Insider:

Watch The US Slowly But Surely Become A Nation Of Nonsmokers


Well.

This is exciting, Kevin. There must be more! IS there more?

I’m glad you asked that !

I’m not sure who said “e-cigs are disruptive”, but – here, take a break – read Chris Price’s view on e-cigarettes as a disruptive technology.


11/18 update:

Stanton Glantz… and his submission to the world of the FDA is here.


 

Guess who else is pissed about disrupting their cash flow?

Organizations. Lots of them. They depend on lots and lots of funding to sustain themselves. Grants. Automatic payments. Money.

E-cigarettes are taking that away. They don’t like that.

How convenient.


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Finally, the United States Government – and other tax collecting entities. Ever notice when you bought a pack of smokes how the sign may say “cigarettes sold at state minimum”?  No? Me either.



This does not help the Government – to lose all this money. Pharmaceutical companies are calling their “friendly” senators.

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leno


Evidently, the group ASCAN

American Cancer Society Action Network –

already knows Congress actually works for them – not “the people”.

ugh



Upstanding *cough, cough*  “Tobacco Control” *cough –  experts are also involved.

They want what’s best for us.

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And the Government, all by itself, is caving in.

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The Government is missing their money.

They want it taxed like tobacco.

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They NEED e-cigarettes regulated

as TOBACCO. So they can TAX it.

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It is NOT tobacco.


But that is what they want it to be.

It won’t include their FRIENDS

“APPROVED” nicotine products that we’ve tried

and for the most part, DON’T WORK.


Those products are derived from magical unicorn farts, not tobacco.

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If you’ve read this far – remember

The FDA has deeming regulations in progress at the moment.


I need you to be ANGRY.


Support the organizations on this blog. Talk to people. CALL your congress/senators.

Write, email. hold up signs.

Call your media friends if you have any. Get the support of your doctors, schools, YELL.

Educate anyone you CAN.

TELL them this is about children having family members NO LONGER using tobacco.


TELL THEM this IS about HEALTH.


TELL them e-cigarettes take us AWAY from smoking.


TELL THEM it is NOT about NICOTINE.


We need a SWIFT and abrupt UPROAR worldwide.



Get mad. They’re taxing you because they miss their money.

It’s not even DEEMED tobacco, and it’s already happening in the United States.


You need to be ANGRY.


Go here and do something about that.

Then go here as well.


Stop ACCEPTING what is not true or real.

Nicotine is NOT TOBACCO. They want it deemed tobacco

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for loss of revenue they thought would LAST FOREVER. 

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E-Cigarettes are NOT acceptable to be part of their PONZI SCHEME.

WE stopped smoking. They WANT us to stop smoking. Now they don’t like that.

Less smoking, less revenue. It’s a PONZI scheme.


A documentary is coming, and not soon enough – (no rush, guys & gals) 🙂

about all of this:

A Billion Lives


Recommended reading:

How Wall Street Tobacco Deals Left States With Billions in Toxic Debt

Vaping Claimed First Victim One Year Ago

Tax Hikers Focused On 2016 Election

New CDC Data – More than 9 MILLION Adults Vape Regularly In The United States

Vaping For Tax Freedom

Burdensome vaping regulation about revenue, not health

DC budget would extend 70 percent tobacco tax to vapor products, e-cigarettes

Increased Tobacco Taxes Are Not the Answer

Mine:

Taxing Thoughts, A Ponzi Scheme.

Please Keep Smoking! Plausible Deniability, An Incestuous Relationship.

Without Integrity: Tobacco Harm Reduction In The U.S.A.

Lying Bastards


Some on the survey mentioned black market. Some proclaimed they’d do it themselves.
The only concern I’d have with that is – what about the current smokers who don’t know how or are afraid?
What will they do if e-cigarettes as we know them today with all generations – are considered illegal?
What about THIS lady?

Here are comments

 “Real People ~ Real Answers”

from the latest survey, unedited on question #41:

If e-cigarettes are taxed / regulated as tobacco I believe:

 “Real People ~ Real Answers”


I make my own juice and would continue. I have a 20 year supply of nicotine in my freezer.
Friday, Oct 9th 10:52AM

One point, there would be less motivation, not no motivation. Because e-cigs have more to offer.
Thursday, Oct 8th 5:13PM

With no incentive to switch over why would they?
Thursday, Oct 8th 11:23AM

it would be a heinous grievance against an entire community to make this change at this point in the game
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 2:03PM

That would be the worst thing you could do; limit the availability by keeping it out of a person’s financial reach.
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 1:23PM

There would be a huge black market. I do not foresee myself paying taxes on my ejuice. lol.
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 11:29AM

Other quit smoking products are not taxed, at least not in Sweden or Estonia, to tax e-cigarette liquids would be insane.
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 8:18AM

If they ban or regulate them to be as expencive as gums and pathes, the are making a huge mistake, a crime to public health.
Monday, Sep 14th 2:54AM

The cost savings was the biggest stimulation to try e-cigs.
Wednesday, Aug 19th 12:51AM

Apart from the obvious fact there is no legal reason to tax as tobacco, it would reduce the likely hood of some people trying them. As prices would be ridiculous it would also kill most of the industry that is already in place.
Sunday, Aug 16th 3:11AM

Ecigs will just become less appealing to new users, people established will find a way around anything, there will be a new black market to exploit.
Saturday, Aug 8th 7:53AM

Understand the patches, gum and inhalers are over the counter now and greatly reduced in price. The FDA a few yrs ago announced that there was no harm in nicotine useage from these products. Other than monetary gain for pharma companies, I can’t figure out why the fed and state gov’s would ban/restrict the use of vaping…..Except that individuals might be influenced with “donations”.
Thursday, Aug 6th 2:59AM

I would not have a problem, worst comes to the worst ill not use nicotine, and just mix my own as i do now!
Monday, Aug 3rd 4:25AM

It would be like the main goal of tobacco companies and the government would be money not my or anyone else’s health. This includes non-smokers because as a smoker they will inhale bad stuff, even if it’s 3rd hand smoke — which as a smoker they can get from my hair, clothes, home, car, etc. even if they are never ever around me while I actually smoke.
Sunday, Aug 2nd 8:00PM

I make my own juice so that better not get more expencive!
Sunday, Aug 2nd 7:18PM


There would definitely be less motivation for smokers to try them. Money and health were the two reasons I tried them. It would be completely irresponsible to tax them at the same rate.
Saturday, Aug 1st 7:59PM

It might slow down the Vaping movement, but it would continue to grow. A Giant Black Market would arise.
Saturday, Aug 1st 8:16PM

I have the right to make choices about my health. I choose to vape and to be tobacco- and smoke-free.
Saturday, Aug 1st 6:35PM

I think e-cigs should be taxed like any other product, but NOT like tobacco. Tobacco is taxed heavily because of the healthcare costs smoking produces. Vaping is not that dangerous, so it shouldn’t be taxed like tobacco.
Saturday, Aug 1st 6:25PM

I can still afford it and would still vape, but it might easily deter others.
Saturday, Aug 1st 4:02PM

Criminal, but probably inevitable
Saturday, Aug 1st 4:34PM

Not sure how the could justify taxing e cigarettes or e liquids. Other than vat
If e liquids where heavily taxed then more people would start diy mixing which in my opinion could be more dangerous if not knowledgable.
Friday, Jul 31st 6:56PM

A lot of time, saving money is a big factor for quitting cig.
Tuesday, Jul 28th 3:02PM

If they tax it, it wont affect me because i mix my own… Mother fukka’s are so gready!
Monday, Jul 27th 12:59PM

if the taxes become outrageous then no new person is gonna bother trying and if the choices are limited then vaping will be no more successful than the patch or gum 🙁
Sunday, Jul 26th 4:30PM

I am against any tax on e-cigarettes, it already costs to much for most people especially the ones that have moved from regular to e-cigs because they could no longer afford regular cigs.
Sunday, Jul 26th 1:11AM

As a machinist, I can make my own mech mods and attys. I build my own attys, I don’t use regulated power supplies, and I make my own juice. They can’t hurt me… but they can certainly have a negative effect on others, both new and experienced.
Saturday, Jul 25th 10:50PM

they are in no way, shape, or form – tobacco, stop trying to tax them as such!
Saturday, Jul 25th 7:37PM

It will be a sad sad day when this happens. The biggest fear I have is government taking away what has clearly saved my life.
Saturday, Jul 25th 10:15AM

the goverments want controll for the money it rakes in they just want their greedy little mitts on it. i think alot of people would go back to smoking, thats not good
Wednesday, Jul 22nd 8:47AM

Politicians refuse to let a source of revenue lie dormant, peoples health is secondary
Tuesday, Jul 21st 11:52AM

I’ll make my own coils, my own juice – not going to tax me to hell and back.
Sunday, Jul 19th 9:50AM

I dont think taxes would stop people from vaping. I would not stop. But it will just weaken vaping and make it a bit less attractive, especially for new vapers.
Sunday, Jul 19th 1:49AM

black market, nuff said.
big tobacco and their croneys can GFTS!!
Saturday, Jul 18th 4:31PM

I see no need to tax ecigarettes. We pay sales tax on this stuff, isn’t that enough for the state? It’s not my fault if the states depend on funds from a source that kills it’s consumers and needs to find money elsewhere now that they are earning less revenue do to people making a healthy switch. We should be rewarded for switching to vape since it’s a healthier alternative, not punished.
Saturday, Jul 18th 2:46PM

If the flavors are restricted or taken away, I wouldn’t be able to keep vaping. I’ve tried different tobacco flavors…even the tobacco flavor made by Marlboro…they all taste bad, even the menthol.
Friday, Jul 17th 6:24PM

It would also create a huge black market of which i would be going to.
Friday, Jul 17th 6:19PM

Motivation is multifactorial. I was actually motivated to buy my first ecig to replace the nicotine while I had a rabid ex-smoker in the house working for me. Once I tried it I felt I could use it to give up smoking for health. Money was never a motivation for me. “Is it cheaper” is usually the first question people ask me so it’s obviously a factor for most people.
Wednesday, Jul 15th 6:33PM

I hope it will be recognized as the help people need to quit smoking and NOT taxed.
Tuesday, Jul 14th 12:23PM

A black market could develop
Tuesday, Jul 14th 5:28AM

Of course, it wouldn’t result in people not trying e-cigarettes at all, just because they’re not cheaper than tobacco anymore. That’s not the point. But it would increase the threshold for people to “just give it a try and see if it works”. If, at the time, a pack of cigarettes was 5 EUR and that eGo-T kit would have been 10 EUR, I might have hesitated to just give it a try. It might be a good idea to tax nicotine concentrate a bit more, so people have some incentive to drop their nicotine consumption or go down to 0mg – after all, a caffeine addiction is still an addiction, too.
Sunday, Jul 12th 9:03PM

i will import my goods meaning the UK will lose out on VAT.
Monday, Jul 13th 7:29PM

It would be criminal.
Monday, Jul 13th 5:24PM

They are NOT a tobacco product…so they should not be taxed as such
Monday, Jul 13th 2:11PM

There is absolutely no justification for treating vaping products the same as tobacco products.
Monday, Jul 13th 2:56PM

Taxes on tobacco were to offset the health care cost, vaping should be encouraged to help rid all of their need for tobacco
Monday, Jul 13th 12:55PM

Dear politicians, do NOT regulate it into a black market. I, however already have my black market sources set up. We ex-smokers ain’t playin’!!!
Monday, Jul 13th 1:27PM

The e-cig users I know would never go back to tobacco – even with a tax on e-cigs. I would complain about the tax but would never go back to cigarettes.
Monday, Jul 13th 10:50AM

It would increase costs for no good reason, assuming they aren’t made with tobacco.
Monday, Jul 13th 10:29AM

The fact that they are less expensive in the long run, combined with the fact that there is a big expense at the start, encouraging commitment to trying to stay with them instead of going back when it gets hard, makes e-cigarettes more likely to help smokers quit smoking for good. They should not be taxed like cigarettes are.
Monday, Jul 13th 8:33AM

Vaping is not smoking. Vaping is the solution to the problem of smoking.
Monday, Jul 13th 8:53AM

i think its mainly a matter of principles and semantics. foodies generally arent bulimic, it doesnt mean the same thing so why should they be put in the same basket? I am not a smoker anymore so why should I be opressed as one? yes, i said opressed. that being said im not an economy analyst
Monday, Jul 13th 8:45AM

everything that we as people like get taxed on everything ,if they tax us on vaping equipment lots of people would not try and probably never quit ,I find that disgraceful
Monday, Jul 13th 8:22AM

People in the e-cig industry already regulate their own products to a much higher standard than most other industries..
Monday, Jul 13th 7:10AM

it would be the government wanting money to make up for there loss no better than drug dealers
Monday, Jul 13th 5:56AM

Trying to make vaping less accessible irresponsible, dangerous and will cost lives.
Monday, Jul 13th 3:42AM

I am fairly confident I will never go back to cigarettes. They are disgusting.
Monday, Jul 13th 3:08AM

Never going back
Sunday, Jul 12th 9:27PM

How do you tax something as tobacco when there is no tobacco in it? Do they tax lighters and ashtrays like tobacco? Do they tax nicotine patches and gums like tobacco?
Sunday, Jul 12th 4:06PM

Some tax will be involved it’s the American way, but should Never be treated the same…
Sunday, Jul 12th 1:57PM

they should be taxed and regulated to an extent tobacco taxs are out of the question
Sunday, Jul 12th 2:32PM

If/when the e-cig industry gets taxed at the same level as the tobacco industry, you will see less motivation for borderline smokers/vapers to switch to vaping, in their minds it would be like; Why bother to smoke and vape, its gonna cost me about the same either way, I liked smoking, I’m gonna go back to smoking. Another thing I think you will see is the vape industry go underground, black market kinda thing. Online sales with little to no regulation what so ever will be the way to go. With some of the larger vendors become even larger and richer, and some of the smaller and mid size companies will expand and get larger as well. All the rest, the small fry will either get bought up by the other vendors, or will simply go out of business. It is scary to think that the politicians have the e-cig industry by the short and curlies, for what reason? GREED plain and simple.
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:14PM

We are not using tobacco and vaporizers and eliquid should not be controlled and taxed the way tobacco is. Smoking cigarettes is deadly. Vaping is not.
Sunday, Jul 12th 2:17PM

Small vape shops would not survive the costs.
Sunday, Jul 12th 2:04PM

I hope when regulations come and tax the products, they consider the fact most of our industry is comprised of businesses with 10 people or less. Please regulate us as such, we are not a giant corporation.
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:40PM

Its probably gonna happen
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:55PM

This question should be split. Taxed=it would be totally unfair to vapers. Regulated=it would protect vapers.
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:23PM

I might go back to smoking because of the price … or go black market with health risks
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:39PM

How is punishing someone for choosing a healthier
lifestyle sane?
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:41PM

The prices would say rocket and people wouldn’t be able to afford it. If am item that is $120 and say gets taxed 70% like Washington DC the price goes up to $205 and that’s just the tax let alone what the shop needs to make a profit so like $230 alot of people including my self can’t afford that.
Sunday, Jul 12th 9:54AM

Those in charge would lower the percentage of niccotine in eliqiud , and we would be stuck with those silly cigarrete look a like e-cigs!
Sunday, Jul 12th 10:31AM

This is the only strategy that will get the government away from criticizing the industry.
Sunday, Jul 12th 10:40AM

I believe that the regulations for the E-cig industry will tower over the tobacco, in that there are over 4100 hazardous chemicals, 57 of them are known cancer causers in each puff of a cigarette. There is no comparison between the 2.
Sunday, Jul 12th 7:20AM

There will become a black market for them.
Sunday, Jul 12th 8:21AM

It would destroy the industry and hurt countless people!
Sunday, Jul 12th 5:38AM

Vaping saves lives compared to tobacco.
Sunday, Jul 12th 6:01AM

Money is one of the big motivating factors, I believe.
Sunday, Jul 12th 3:45AM

taxing like cigarettes would drive people back to smoking as prices would be crazy high as they are its not a cheep alternative now
Sunday, Jul 12th 4:32AM

Taxing and regulating e-cigarettes the same as combustable tobacco products while keeping those on the market would result in people who could otherwise switch not doing so. Ultimately that would be detrimental to public health. Some people cannot or do not want to abstain from nicotine, and as adults should have the right to determine for themselves the form they wish to take their nicotine. However, those forms which are less harmful, or perceived to be less harmful to the individual user should be encouraged by less taxation and fewer regulations than combustible products with known health effects.
Sunday, Jul 12th 3:06AM

This would be a public health travesty.
Epic stupidity.
Saturday, Jul 11th 9:58PM

I don’t believe it should be regulated or taxed as a tobacco because it is not. Comparing apples to oranges…
Saturday, Jul 11th 9:18PM

if they made if so I cannot purchase the ingredients I need, like nicotine to make my ejuice. I would probably just go to zero nic. But MANY people would return to smoking. If I could not make zero nic ejuice I would probably fall into smoking rapidly.
Saturday, Jul 11th 7:34PM

just be a dangerous health question
Saturday, Jul 11th 6:32PM

Which would suit big tobacco and big pharmaceutical companies producing patches and gum for us all to rely on them.
Saturday, Jul 11th 1:23PM

could become cost prohibitive.
Saturday, Jul 11th 12:07PM

The cost is often the first carrot to tempt people to make the switch, and any impediment to getting people to stop using traditional tobacco products is a very, very bad idea (except for Big Tobacco).
Saturday, Jul 11th 8:07AM

I would just by juice in parts and mix my own
Saturday, Jul 11th 4:21AM

This is about me not smoking cigarettes, not about taxes, if the government taxed e cigarettes I would be very disappointed , that would make a tax look like a tax grab not about a choice of the lessor of 2 evils.
Saturday, Jul 11th 2:57AM

Would make me hate tobacco and government even more. Astonishing how the greatest cause of preventable death in the world is still legal and on the market. People have voting power and the more people that take side with the viability of PV’s, the more influence there will be to prevent this from happening.
Saturday, Jul 11th 1:13AM

No matter what I’ll will not go back to tobacco , if I had to I would just completely quit it all , just have to replace my time with exercise , painting. Let’s see them tax that !!
Saturday, Jul 11th 12:59AM

I would still vape
Friday, Jul 10th 10:31PM

There are smokers and there are vapers seldom do I see both
Friday, Jul 10th 10:42PM

It is not tobacco.
Friday, Jul 10th 10:34PM

You cannot just pick up an ecig and vape. There is so much you need to learn to work the equipment properly and find a taste that you enjoy and a nicotine level that you need. Vape shops need to be able to explain various products they have. People need to be able to sample the e-liquid before they buy or they will just be wasting money on things that don’t work and just stick to smoking because it is so much easier.
Friday, Jul 10th 10:48PM

It will open the doors to subpar ejuices and mock mods, tanks accessories, black market. No one wants toxic chems in their ejuice, no one wants sub par Mods, tanks.
Friday, Jul 10th 3:04PM

There´s allways a choise not to pay too much. Though it would ruin business locally (the few left, most of them allready went abroad)
Thursday, Jul 9th 2:23PM

While many of us (myself included) would continue to vape regardless (because we are capable of DIY building everything necessary from devices, to vaporizers, to e-liquids) this would stop thousands or more from being able to successfully kick the smoking habit!
Wednesday, Jul 8th 1:22PM

If categorized as a tobacco product, people may think they are just as harmful. Also, the fact that ecigs are much cheaper is a huge factor in people deciding to try them, and ultimately quit cigarettes all together.
Wednesday, Jul 8th 12:12PM

Vaping is not a tobacco product.
Wednesday, Jul 8th 1:33AM

It would be an unconscionable effort by the government to recoup lost revenues from the cigarette taxes that they have profited from to date. History will reveal the great lies and deceit of the tobacco vilification of our semi recent political climate regarding tobacco use, and the huge government profits gained by this slanted social agenda.
Tuesday, Jul 7th 10:22PM

I wouldn’t be going back to smoking but it would effect those who currently smoke.
Tuesday, Jul 7th 6:42PM

I think regulation would be better for safety, but taxing like tobacco would be bad.
Tuesday, Jul 7th 2:37PM

I would start mixing my own e liquid and buy hardware from overseas or from ‘vaping underground’
Monday, Jul 6th 9:57AM

Doesn’t bear thinking about.
Sunday, Jul 5th 10:54AM

Make your own E juice it’s easier then most people think.
Saturday, Jul 4th 4:45PM

And obviously – the only people to gain from this is the government.
Wednesday, Jul 1st 11:58PM

In countries where sale of e-liquids containing nicotine, this would in effect legalize those liquids. This of course means, that the regulation is not completely skewed to not reflect the amounts people use.
Tuesday, Jun 30th 7:18PM

There would be less motivation for smokers to try them. Many vapers would go back to smoking. It would be likely for the emergence of a ‘black market’ with products really dangerous to public health similar to the trade in illicit alcohol.
Tuesday, Jun 30th 2:55PM

Regulation also has the issue that it would basically kill all the BETTER devices, mods, atomizers etc. and cig-a-likes would invade the markets which almost everyone knows are not effective / satisfying at all. Also one of the main things compared to smoking has always been SAVING MONEY while having some “bad habbit”. Taxing and regulation would make everything much more expensive than what it is and would also kill smaller businesses and give e-cigarette industry to tobacco companies who have the money.
Tuesday, Jun 30th 12:43PM

One of the reasons i switched over to vaping is that its a LOT cheaper than smoking( atleast in Finland). Roughly 5€ a pack of smokes, 1 pack a day is 150€ a month. I ordered liquids that i mix myself, cost roughly 80€, and it lasts me 4-6 months.
Tuesday, Jun 30th 10:29AM

No proven harm = NO SIN TAX. They can tax it when they calculate harm and tax-payer burden in financial terms, but it should also reflect the savings/reduction in harm from cigarette use. A decrease in sin tax revenue from tobacco is NOT a reason to tax as they are supposed to be collected to cover associated social costs of cigarette use, which would drop along with cigarette use.
Tuesday, Jun 30th 9:07AM

…and cause many many more people to die unnecessarily from tobacco related illnesses.
Tuesday, Jun 30th 12:22AM

Vaping is a safer form of smoking and most definitely prolongs people’s well-being should they switch to vaping over tobacco, therefore should not be taxed
Monday, Jun 29th 4:42PM

Taxation already exists in the form of VAT on purchases. If taxation is increased I will shop more from abroad to avoid paying the UK Government monies I do not believe are justifiable.
Monday, Jun 29th 5:51AM

I don’t think I would go back, but I would probably look at untaxed sources
Sunday, Jun 28th 10:19PM

Flavours and nic strength wouldn’t be such a choice either. Not to mention finding a device for each individual.
Sunday, Jun 28th 5:53PM

It would be likely to reduce access to non-smokers wanting to vape. That being said, this is a low number of people who it would affect.
Sunday, Jun 28th 2:35PM

They should NOT be taxed – end of.
Sunday, Jun 28th 11:27AM

Sales tax alone is income to the government, sales that otherwise would not be there. Anything more is just government greed and abuse of governmental authority and power. There should not even BE a “sin tax”. Furthermore overtaxing will destroy the industry and put it firmly in the hands of Big Tobacco.
Sunday, Jun 28th 11:00AM

#1. Some people will always smoke cigarettes.
#2. It depends on how high the tax is. If it is
less than cigarettes we have a chance at
introducing them to smokers to save money (and
improve their health)
#3 If the tax is comparable to cigarettes, then
we approach the smoker on change of lifestyle,
improved health, better living environment,
etc.
Sunday, Jun 28th 10:46AM

Very sad day.
Sunday, Jun 28th 9:46AM

Some teens have a passing interest in e-cigarettes, but are far more interested in smoking. One of the biggest draws is saving money over smoking – health is a far second.
Sunday, Jun 28th 8:24AM

In the UK we pay VAT on vaping anyaway so there is no real need to tax.
Sunday, Jun 28th 9:12AM

I would find a black market
Sunday, Jun 28th 7:00AM

While I would never smoke tobacco again, I know many who aren’t far enough along the quitting process and would revert to smoking.
Sunday, Jun 28th 12:36AM

I think the government wants use to smoke as they get a lot of money from smokers. I am sad to say that but I think it is true.
Sunday, Jun 28th 12:01AM

I’m one of the few people that enjoy saying, “I don’t know” when asked something I don’t know the answer to
Saturday, Jun 27th 11:45PM

If e-cigarettes are taxed and regulated the same way tobacco is, this would cause a lot of small businesses to be shut down because they wouldn’t be able to afford the measures needed to meet these absurd regulations, or they would have to upcharge their products so much that it would be MORE expensive than cigarettes. This would put an end to innovative vaping technologies, creative thinking, and ultimately drive vapers back to smoking!
Saturday, Jun 27th 7:23PM

ofcourse, tax it, and I’ll buy tax free online internationally thankyou very much, but if vaping was made to cost anything close to the price of smoking, it would be a complete disaster, it would give smokers no real motivation to vape vs smoke.
Saturday, Jun 27th 7:10PM

It wouldn’t effect me because I DIY.
Saturday, Jun 27th 7:02PM

This is where the government needs to be locked out!
Saturday, Jun 27th 6:28PM

My shop would close the day after that tax went into effect.
Saturday, Jun 27th 5:22PM

It would be a crime! People deserve the chance and it isn’t tobacco so don’t tax it like it is. Part of quitting tobacco was to save me money.
Saturday, Jun 27th 3:05PM

Taxed like Tobacco would deter people from wanting to try it because they’re paying the same tax on vapor products as they would cigarettes.. At that point it would only come down to the people who would really want to stop, and need the alternative.
Saturday, Jun 27th 2:46PM

This is perhaps the biggest concern I have right now. I want to see anyone who wants to try e-cigs to have the chance!
Saturday, Jun 27th 2:57PM

Price is driving a good deal of my business. Taxes will hurt.
Saturday, Jun 27th 2:27PM

I originally tried it because I wanted to save money. I really had no expectation of quitting since nothing I’ve tried had worked. If they cost the same as tobacco cigarettes, less people may be inclined to try them. I quit over a year ago and the only reason I’m not saving ugh money is because it has become a hobby collecting gear and new devices.
Saturday, Jun 27th 2:37PM

Taxation would mean more people keeping on smoking and not trying egigs
Saturday, Jun 27th 2:33PM

It would lessen the incentive for tobacco users to switch to vaping
Saturday, Jun 27th 11:55AM

nothing would change except pricing
Saturday, Jun 27th 10:13AM

And it would be illegal in France to tax them as tobacco or even near.
Saturday, Jun 27th 6:50AM

It would deter new people to vaping, but to those of us that are experienced it wont. How are you going to tax pg vg and flavor? It is really easy to make, coils wick and all. That’s what’s driving everyone insane. They can tax the disposables, but no one buys them now anyway.
Saturday, Jun 27th 7:27AM

I am lucky, I can make mods, atties and juice. Most will not have this luxury.
Saturday, Jun 27th 6:49AM

It would seriously harm vaping and could destroy it.
Saturday, Jun 27th 5:27AM

I would stop vaping and I wouldn’t use any tobacco products.
Saturday, Jun 27th 1:40AM

It can already be inaccessible financially, I feel further taxation, particularly in the ranges I’ve seen proposed, would be downright discriminatory to lower income individuals.
Saturday, Jun 27th 1:19AM

I’d be pissed off!
Saturday, Jun 27th 1:00AM

we will make a black market,no thanks on your tax..
Saturday, Jun 27th 12:32AM

I personally would try to find a black market solution to avoid pointless taxation and stealth vape in public places.
Friday, Jun 26th 11:21PM

Primarily, the majority of folks that would still vape are those that have truly experienced how bad smoking can harm the body.
Friday, Jun 26th 11:33PM

I think it would have to be fairly draconian for me to consider going back to smoking. Will undoubtedly slow take up and discourage switching though, which would be a big fail for public health.
Friday, Jun 26th 4:54PM

I can make literally everything I need myself, except for the nicotine extract. If it’s taxed to hell, I’ll just be planning semi-annual trips to Mexico.
Just sayin’.
Friday, Jun 26th 1:43AM

I won’t be going back to smoking
Thursday, Jun 25th 8:08PM

It depends on the regulations set. If it was controlled by the cigarette industry I really do not know what I would do.
Thursday, Jun 25th 1:59PM

If you treat it like tobacco it will have a stigma of tobacco this may put people off from trying also as money sometimes can be a factor taxing it would also not help it should be treated as a consumer product with some regulations ie 18 age restriction with support of health officials as a way of stopping using tobacco
Thursday, Jun 25th 7:42AM

The government only cares about your tax money and will do whatever it takes to get it. The health argument is just a political goto strategy.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 11:28PM

I would learn to make my own ejuice!
Wednesday, Jun 24th 11:29PM

stupidest decision on the planet
Wednesday, Jun 24th 11:09PM

it will assist with closing local shops. And I wll not buy online, so therefore could push me back to smoking tobacco
Wednesday, Jun 24th 4:37PM

Flavourings are used in food as well and would be very hard to tax, nicotine and vg/pg would be hard to tax as well and can be stored in freezers for years to come.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 5:04PM

People will continue to smoke, even if ecigs were being given away.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 12:29PM

SIN TAX OK
CIGARETTE TYPE TAX NOT OK
Wednesday, Jun 24th 1:49PM

To treat e-cig users as smokers, and e-cig products as tobacco products, infringes on our rights. It is ignorant and dishonest. it makes me question the people who have been elected into power and the industries pulling their strings.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 9:11AM

Taxed or regulated as tobacco, would be seen as “being the same as tobacco” – even though vaping CLEARLY is not smoking.
The same as banning people to walk around in public with water bottles, since no one can tell if its really water in that bottle, or maybe vodka/gin?
There has to be an incentive to switch to vaping – other than improving health. Harm reduction and harm reversal seems to be the main goals of switching, and the most smokers are low-middle income people, that really wants to save a penny and get on with a life not chained to smoking cigarettes. If tobacco/vaping were to be taxed and regulated even stricter, with higher prices – that would only benefit the big companies and the governments … the smokers/vapers would still buy the products (liquids/e-vapes/cigarettes) even if the price went skyhigh, and the rest of the family (the children) will be left to pay the ultimate sacrifice: What ever money is left, after the vaping/smoking products has been bought, is what is left for food, clothes a.s.o.
Tobacco/vaping gear are “BARE NECESSITIES” – or “need to have” – food and clothes will (by smokers) be seen as “nice to have”.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 10:48AM

My circle of novice users and I will continue vaping because we have a large amount of private stock to last us for 10 years or more. Everyone should do that. someone who Taxes a healthier alternative over tobacco does not earn respect and should never win.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 6:12AM

Personally, I will NOT go back to smoking tobacco, whatever the law is. If necessary, I’ll become a criminal – after being a good citizen for almost 50 years.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 4:31AM

in my country it would be twice as expensive as
smoking is so it will be harder to get people to
switch over to the amazing world of vaping sadly
Wednesday, Jun 24th 6:10AM

Governments would also be attaching their revenues to a variable source which their motivation is to see diminish. This is the very definition of fiscal insanity and must be resisted, not for the health of the vaping industry but for the health of the population as a whole.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 12:21AM

cost is always a factor but if they cost the same I would still use my vape rather than smoking because it has allowed me to ween off nicotine
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 7:49PM

for myself, i don’t care. I build my own coils, i can DIY for my liquid to avoid taxes. But it will prevent some smokers from trying and that’s a shame.
Unfortunatly, Taxes may be the only thing that will make governments support the ecig. If they can get their money from the ecig, as much as with the regular ones, and with less health issues….believe me, if this happens, you will see a bunch of officials and media praising the holy ecig…
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 5:33PM

I believe I would totally quit. We are taxed to death now.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 6:28PM

The states would reap the profits the small store would close and people will go back to tobacco use because it will be cheaper.( i can guarantee that) people will be dying from smoking more and more. This is not the right answer
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 5:24PM

You can’t regulate something like tobacco if there isn’t tobacco in it.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 3:27PM

..in Canada to classify a product as something that it is not, for the purpose of regulation/taxation.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 10:23AM

For me, my e-cig is a health product, why would they tax something that’s saving them spending money to treat me for health issues?
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 1:06PM

If ecigs are treated the same as tobacco, it will deter smokers from switching. If it comes to the point that ecigs are no longer available or so expensive I couldn’t afford them, I’d go straight to the black market without any guilt whatsoever.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 12:17PM

Treatments for disease (tobacco addiction) should not be taxed. Sin tax was placed on tobacco to offset the healthcare costs. There is no evidence that vaping causes any harm to health or increased cost to healthcare. If anything reducing smoking reduces health consequences. We should be handing vapes out in hospitals & healthcare facilities
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 1:00PM

Just like when cigarette taxes increased and we saw an increase of tobacco trafficking, we will see the industry move underground. And probably with a lot more success than tobacco ever had, as it’s not that difficult to do much of this stuff yourself.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 10:32AM

Before I started vaping I was spending 500$ or more a month between the wife and myself. After starting vaping its half that per month, however, I do splurge on new mods 🙂
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 11:32AM

They say smoking costs the NHS a lot of funds over the years, so are taxed to help cover those funds, yet people that vape are now not using the service for smoking related illnesses, which in the long term should see less having to be spent because of people having a healthier lifestyle?
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 10:57AM

If e-cigarettes were taxed, I would be pissed-off, but I would still use them (and start hunting for good deals online!)
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 9:07AM

So stupid to tax it. But we all know its coming.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 9:14AM

Again MONEY is the primary objective. Big Tobacco and Pharmacuticals have lost aLOT of money due to less revenue by individuals choosing to VAPE. It is a BRUTAL shame that many (IF taxed/regulated) a smoker may never try vaping for THAT reason. I may spend more now stockpiling but in the long run, it will pay for itself! Would I go back to smoking – NO, I’ve been on the other side too long. I have stocked up on a multitude of supplies.
Never will I give my funds to do harm t my body and honestly the thought of the taste of burning tobacco … bleck !
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 6:32AM

If E cigarettes are regulated the same as tobacco products then we may as well sick a fork in my eye as there is no hope and the world has gone mad!
oh i know lets regulate something to the point its impossible for users to have a decent vape then tax it and encourage converting back to killer cigarettes costing the nhs a fortune stupid f@*ked up world.
Sarcasm!
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 8:16AM

I believe the government does not care one
bit about our health. It’s all about the tax.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 7:07AM

Vaping should be encouraged, and for those that need help affording this technology, the money raised from smokers for smoking should be made available to any smoker who wishes to quit smoking in any manner.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 7:48AM

ecigs will eventually become the norm for nicotine delivery!
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 7:47AM

There is no reason to tax like cigarettes, that is just a money grubbing tactic by the government because so many people are quitting they are losing money. Some states states are going to be in it deep when they need to start paying off the tobacco settlement money bonds.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 6:28AM

Would make it just as expensive and therefore less viable choice for quitting.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 5:24AM

People with health awareness could still prefer vaping no matter the cost.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 6:20AM

taxation will not effect me unless it’s at a ridiculous rate
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 5:58AM

It would be criminal and the worst decision ever made by trying to gain money from a health product.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 4:42AM

This is why I learned to wrap and wick coils, and to make my own e-liquid. The government can stuff their taxes in any orifice they feel appropriate. 🙂
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 4:57AM

I would sue the government, and seek criminal charges.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 4:54AM

If e-cigarettes are taxed / regulated as tobacco, I believe the government who passes that legislation has effectively murdered millions of people.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 4:33AM

It depends on how extensive the taxing was and how much the prices would go up. But yes any taxing would make it less accessible and more likely to deter people from trying.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 4:22AM

It would be a stupid thing to do as one of the main reasons for taxing tobacco is to deter users due to the danger.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 3:33AM

MEDIA, you’re NEXT.


Research on ECIGS is well published and available  HERE and HERE

Medical Professionals are HERE


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More to come – including the final analysis of the last survey!

As I logged into my blog this morning, I checked a few things. In doing so, I realized – to my surprise –  this is my 100th blog.

55,482 visitors in almost a year, with 97,735 views.

Small numbers in comparison to some I am sure, but I hope you enjoy reading my information as much as I enjoy giving it to you.

I thank you all for your support and friendship both on Facebook and Twitter.

Keep On #Vaping On
Kevin.

The Many Faces Of Tobacco Control. Simple Simon Chimpman.

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Every dog, or in this case, chimp, has his day. We’ve all had personal and professional triumphs. We’ve suffered losses, failures. We at first ~ especially when we’re younger, hungry trying to “change the world”, hopefully for the better.
To make a mark in life – there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. Specifically, if you’re in the public health field, you’d want that to be a lasting mark. You’d want that to be memorable. You’d want to help people. Change lives for the better.

Reducing or eliminating smoking would be a start.


My father had some sayings. “Know for a fact” was one.
‘I’m not just another pretty face” was another.

Simon Chapman, Tobacco Control. A man on a mission.
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Let me speak first of all – to the surprise of some of you, of Chimpmanzee having done “some good”. In 1983, he wrote The Lung Goodbye. (That document being held in the UCSF website  – Truth Tobacco Industry Documents – presumably held in trust by fellow chimpster, Stanton Glantz.)
Surely, in the scheme of things, The Lung Goodbye was groundbreaking stuff. I’ve enjoyed it very much. Great insight in there. Showing how to fight the tobacco companies like a pit-bull.
I myself used it – Credited it like asked, and never even so much as got a thank you – you ungrateful monkey.
No, that’s not it, Chump. No, that’s not it, Chimp. There, that’s better.

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I figured from the very beginning of my “twitter” life, I would follow the very people who are against e-cigarettes. It was a no-brainer! I wanted to learn from them. Obviously they know something I don’t. Obviously from their tenure, experience, education, background, knowledge MUST be free flowing and available for the world to see.
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I thought it would be advantageous to see exactly what those e-cigarette users weren’t telling me. They MUST have been hiding something!  I was fully confident – professors like GlANTZ. Chimpman. MONcKee. Chimpewell….. those academic geniuses I was finding by the hour would know ALL about e-cigarettes…. surely they would tell all!
MONKEYS2NONE of them HAVE research. They like to look at everyone elses… make comments… create a stir… throw their feces around….  but not do their own research.
Shortly after joining, I created my first survey realizing these chimpanzees were not receptive to “common” former smokers, dual users and completely quitters!
BOY oh BOY was I ever excited to share my anecdotal evidence with them and the world, heck maybe I’d be invited in for banana hour at the local college!
First Vaping Survey Final Analysis.
I enjoyed following Chimpmanzee. I learned things about wind farms and other drivel!
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I myself had more than a few tweets with him before being blocked. So sad. I had so much to learn.

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Simon Chimpman: Put in his place.
Chimpman has been called a World Class Comedian by Dick Puddlecoat.
Chimpman has been described as Simple Simon by Christopher Snowden.
Chimpman has received from the eloquent Lorien Jolly, A Lesson In Manners.
Chimpman has #evidently become part of the tobacco control circus.
Chimpman has even taken on Clive Bates. Here’s Clive’s response.

 

Added 7/25/17:
Via Dr. Danko:
Is Simon Chapman dancing to the tune of Big Tobacco?
I’m sure there’s more, I just don’t want you getting hit with any flying feces. You know how chimpanzees can enjoy tossing their own excrement.

More than enough to go around, Chimpanzee likes to make statements over tweets of others.
Much to my amusement, so do I.
simon

The difference between myself and Chumpmonkey – a “professional” who is allegedly knowledgeable, educated and wrong – should be held to a much higher standard. In the academic world, the professional world, and in the very world of tobacco control? I’d think so.
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The difference is  – I’m not a professor. I’m a citizen.

 Please take your own advice:

respect the evidence

That is part of his

“10 pieces of advice to early career researchers and advocates”


You would think ANYONE in tobacco control would be for e-cigarettes as an alternative to smoking. There’s no tobacco. There’s no smoke. He’ll tweet his opinion. (Note the applause of Chimpwell in this below)
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Are you done laughing yet???


Troll his opinion, some would say:

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Here’s his explanation as to

why HE blocks trolls on Twitter.


Here he talks about ethics:   Ooops……

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He is not LAWFULLY PERMITTED  –  however he pretends to throw his feces around, to DO medical research or study in relation to human health.
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Added 5/29/16:

Chappers LOVES control.

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Don’t SHARE it!

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His self-absorbed trolling got the best of him last year.

He trolled the wrong person.

He DID offer – persuaded surely – and published an apology for this:

Final-Apology

So… in that spirit, I’m going to offer my “final apology” for this blog in advance.

Correction & Apology
CORRECTION & APOLOGY FROM @VapingIT.
TO Simon Chimpman.
I am a consumer, private citizen and more than a casual observer of your stupidity on Twitter.
On 14 November, 2015, I posted the above blog. With pleasure. I do enjoy your inept attempts at barely being relevant, holding on to a banana peel with all your might to have your final influence on the world of tobacco.
It’s fun to watch.
Under the impression you were a “professional”, my blog implied you were a chimpanzee. I realize this may cause concern and implications. I have since realized you may well be an ape, and I want to apologize to any chimpanzees I may have offended – in any manner.
I certainly don’t need chimpanzees coming after me. The allegations of you being a professional in any capacity of tobacco harm reduction for the masses were obviously misconstrued by me. I will do what I can to keep others from believing you are a professional.
I realize you are not lawfully permitted to perform research, or conduct said research, and cannot be expected to speak intelligently with a banana in one hand, your excrement in the other AND know what massive amounts of research there is to understand with e-cigarettes.
Maybe the English department can read it to you.
I presume you just don’t understand all that mumbo jumbo without pictures.
I suggest you also see the Psychology department. You seem to have too much trouble interacting with people who have stopped smoking with e-cigarettes.
It looks as if you are having trouble accepting the fact that all those years of trying to convince people to stop smoking have been for nothing.

I have a feeling this isn’t the first time you’ve been replaced by a battery operated device and it is bothering you.

As a secondary and less important note, I’ve tried to hone and sharpen my blogging skills enough over the past year to be charged with defamation of your character. Much to my own disappointment, after all the amateur research I’m able to do with a job and family, it turns out I couldn’t find that you have character. Turns out –  you actually have none.
I can only hope you are held accountable for deterring smokers from trying to stop smoking with e-cigarettes.
Criminal charges are preferred.
I also want to point out, that despite your “quit or die” motto – you don’t want smokers to use these “APPROVED METHODS“ , vapers are not dying by the standards you’d like to see.

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We’ll be around a bit longer to point out your lack of qualifications, irrelevance and – of course, just when you’re wrong in many aspects of your tweets and – blog…
I sincerely apologize to any truthful Scientists, Researchers and Doctors worldwide if I’ve offended them because they have earned my immense respect by doing research, and understanding the possibilities with e-cigarettes, and the ability of those wonderful people to reduce tobacco use worldwide.
Former Smoker Because Of E-Cigarettes,
Kevin.

 

 

Update. Simon retweeted this article.

What a guy.

 

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 ** Added 12/11/15. Because he’s not an enemy of vaping…

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My response to your BMJ Blog is here- just in case it’s “not approved”


 

Responsibility of a professional is less harm, Mr. Chapman.

With the faulty evidence presented, with no research on nicotine being addictive on its own (please show me that) and the fact you would much rather live in a past, create an illusion of control and authority, and pretend e-cigarettes are a gateway, and to ignore the research – is of great concern.

I read The Lung Goodbye. I was absorbed and intrigued by that. As great and insightful as it was, as a great example and a wonderful history lesson in the battle you once waged against tobacco, it also shows the tactics you’re still using against what is taking people away from tobacco today. Counterproductive.

There is responsibility in academics, is there not, to present ALL the facts? Would you as a professor, teach your students half of the facts and let them presume or assume the rest?

Science, proper research. It’s all available. Very disappointing to know your views are to cite what was rather than what is.

Citing “children” and flavors is as much an effort to gain support as it is to distract from facts. E-cigarettes take people away from tobacco by the millions.

If that fact is not acknowledged, if that a-ha moment does not come to someone in tobacco control as many years as you have been in it, then you’re more worried about your relevance than you are of tobacco use or you have other motives.

If it is “children” you would like to distract with, by all means, continue on your journey. Meanwhile, the adults will continue to take themselves away from smoking and by default, will make cigarettes slowly – almost completely away with or without you.

I hope one day, without question, you will not concede, but put forth effort to understand why they work , what can be done to make them even better, and have productive conversations about what can be done to make them even safer than they already are. Productive conversations as to advertising. Productive conversation, as opposed to working towards deterring both freedom of choice and common sense towards what seems to be the ultimate goal. Less use of combustible tobacco.

The litmus test? Do they work? Do they do less harm?

The scream test? Children and inciting doubt.

E-cigarettes worked for me, accidentally, after 30+ years of smoking. In the end, I’d much prefer a healthy engagement with anyone – including you, to make the goal of less combustible tobacco a reality by a reliable and viable choice with e-cigarettes for the smoker to turn to, where other methods have not worked.


This, added on 01/02/16:

http://theconversatire.com/

from the account:

Fake Simon Chapman @SimonChapmanAO

 

is hilarious!

 


 

 

When I saw this next link from Jim McManus, I did not know his background, however – this is one of the most eloquent ways to change one’s mind.

Jim has spoken out here on his blog:

How & Why I Changed My Mind On E-cigarettes.


The FDA has deeming regulations in progress at the moment.

Go here and do something about that.

Then go here as well.



E-cigarette Research is HERE.

MORE e-cigarette research is also HERE.


 Medical Professionals at MOVE are HERE.


Always a work in progress-

please visit my website here.

More to come!

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin.

 


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E-Cigarettes, Long Term Risks & Health Implications.

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More dangers about e-cigarettes are sure to come out. Experts are constantly finding a new study every day. The media likes to keep the public misinformed. Some experts put their two cents in and the whole world is still confused.

Long term effects are still unknown is claimed by worldwide “experts”.

I LOVE that statement. If you claim there are “long term effects” of e-cigarettes and you don’t know what they are, it is probably your job to KNOW.

After 10+ years of them being on the market, I appreciate you showing how you don’t know how to do your JOB.


In the United States, (according to the Centers For Disease Control) there are 9 million e-cigarette users.

(That’s 9 million non-smokers, by the way).

How do e-cigarettes affect the user? What are the health implications?


Turns out, as you will see below, e-cigarette users not only decrease or eliminate smoking, they also reduce –  in MANY cases,
eliminate medications they’ve been taking for various ailments for years…

Makes one wonder what all those chemicals in cigarettes do to both cause & suppress symptoms…


The very idea that there are long term issues using e-cigarettes CAN be true.

Tell me how “approved” methods work again?


For those of you who think e-cigarettes are just like cigarettes, please show your evidence.
Posthaste.

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Question #27 was posed:

Have you increased, decreased or eliminated any medications since using an ecigarette?

Let’s get to the anecdotal evidence, shall we?


One major think that I have noticed is that while I was smoking Tobacco Cigarettes,I used to get sick 2 to 3 times a year. In the past 2-1/2 years that I have been “Vaping”, I was only sick once!

Less medication COPD

My bp meds were reduced to lowest dose (75% lower)

Pain killers for pre-existing conditions. I attribute that to a better supply of oxygen helping to heal damaged tissue.

i use my inhailers less often now that i’m vaping and not smoking
i have asthma and copd ( sorry spelling )

I don’t have to take my omeprazole for gastritis anymore

Was able to get off blood pressure medicine

Anxiety meds gone. Heartburn meds gone. Chronic diarrhea gone.

halved dosage for GERD

I don’t take any medications except for occasional ibuprofen for a headache.

As stated above, no more need for anti nausea meds and prescription acid reflux meds. My esophagus finally healed from all the heartburn related to smoking.

My health is going better way with my e-cigarette.

Stopped- asthma inhalers, albuterol nebulizer (stopped w Dr supervision & approval due to improvements in lung function & blood o2 levels)
Stopped – anxiety meds and antinausea meds (stopped myself, didn’t need em anymore)

Unfortunately damage has already been done so I am still on asthma meds. plus beta blockers for the heart attack I suffered 8yrs ago, however, have had no angina since I started vaping.

These medications are not vaping or smoking related

I have been lucky to not need regular medication for any reason.

I have severe emphysema and since I started vaping my breathing is better. I do not cough at all. I have not had any chest or sinus infections since beginning to vape
Overall my health has improved

Long term asthma inhailor. no longer in use and quick response maybe once a year…

this is not due to vaping I am a chronic pain suffer and asthmatic I used to blow a 450 to 500 now its 700 to 800 on a peek flow meter so my lungs have got better thanks to vaping

A lot less cold and sinus meds and antibiotics.

less joint pain and coughing related headaches, led to the halted use of non prescription pain relievers.

Less migraines = Less Excedrin
Fewer colds/sore throats = Less Robitussin ETC

I use Ventolin inhaler. I was using it 4 to 5 times per day when I smoked. Now I use it maybe 2 or 3 times a week. Awesome!!

I no longer suffer from lung infections/bronchitis as often, causing me to no longer seek medication for it when it arises.

No allergy/ hayfever gone

Haven’t had flu or a cold since I switched. Used to get flu twice a year like clockwork – beginning and end of winter.

I was on antidepressants and found that I do not need them while on the ecig as I don’t feel so stressed.

Zantac reduced.

Reduced Cpap pressure, down to using no allergy medication

never had any health problems. I mainly quit smoking due to cost and finding out my son was starting on the same path as me.

Much less use of asthama inhalers

O don’t use my blue inhailer as much as before I quit

Eliminated preventative steroidal inhaler, vastly decreased rescue inhaler/nebulizer.

I no longer take any blood pressure medication 🙂

No pain killers needed I’m pain free wahoo

Have not needed my ventolin since I quit smoking and started vaping.

Do not require the use of my inhailer as often.

No more inhalers or broncitus meds

Less allergy medicine

Reduction in the usage of Salbutamol (Ventolin) inhalers as a rescue bronchodilator.

No more inhalers or blood pressure medications and I have lost 55 pounds.

Blood pressure and cholesterol meds were both reduced, and Plavix was eliminated completely (because my clogged arteries cleared up!).

discontinued two prescription drugs for respiratory/allergy issues.

When i where smoking i had the “flu” at least 4 times a year, in the 2 years gone with vaping i havent been sick once!

Cholesterol and blood pressure meds gone!

I no longer have to use inhalers

Because of other ailments not attached to smoking but because of my other problems

I have COPD from smoking cigarettes and I was on O2 at the time that I quit smoking. About a year after I started using e-cigarettes and stopped smoking I was able to get off of O2 completely.

dont have to take my stomach pills every day

no longer need cholesterol medications

no longer need allegra

I no longer use inhalers or need antibiotics for URIs.

Tylenol use has been reduced since my headaches happen less frequently. Also sinus medication like sudaphed is no longer needed.

I have high blood pressure and my medication has dropped by half.

I don’t have headaches and was able to stop taking Tylenol on a daily basis. My nerves are much calmer and my anxiety has gone down.

I’ve eliminated daily maintenance asthma meds, lessened by a lot the usage of rescue medicine, eliminated 2 GERD medications

Im almost of my anti anxiety meds

No longer have to use my asthma inhaler. The day I quit smoking is the last time I have used an inhaler and that was more than 2 years ago

I no longer have seasonal walking pneumonia that required steroids, inhalers and antibiotics.

No more blood pressure medication because my lungs are healthy enough for me to exercise regularly without respiratory issues

Did not get sick over the winter as usual

Blood pressure meds reduced

no need to use steroids, antibiotics or inhalers anymore

not on any breathing aids or anything like that but i bet i would have been if i hadn’t stopted smoking. my mother had every breathing problem under the sun, she only stoped smoking in the last 3 years of her life

I am currently offof blood pressure meds, and am not using breathing meds for COPD

anti biotics from chest infections

Using Asthma inhaler once or twice a month instead of 3 – 4 times a day

I am now permanently on high blood pressure meds – but cannot blame this on ecigs as menopause started around the same time. HBP can be a side effect of menopause.

My high blood pressure medication dosage was halved…but I lost 42 pounds.

The dependency I had on my asthma inhaler has decreased dramatically

I have stopped needing my inhailor as much

My blood pressure is now normal ( no need for pills)
Blood sugar has gotten better ( no need for pills )

Not myself personally however my mom who is a chronic asthmatic and has never smoked, has started vaping and her asthma is almost completely gone. From finishing an asthma pump every week to one lasting her now a whole month!

Completed eliminated GERD medication, which I had to take almost all of my smoking career.

No more HEadaches and very rarely ever take an aspirin now.

dropped blood pressure meds

Used to get bad headaches from the carbon monoxide and took alot of aspirin but no longer

blood presure pills have gone now

I had severe sleep apnea while smoking. After two years with an ecig, i no longer have to wear a cpap.

Blood pressure is now normal. I was taken off medication to control.

I had persistent AMD when I was smoking, and had to have injections in my eyes quarterly to preserve my sight. Once I started vaping instead of smoking, my eyesight improved immediately, and I no longer needed injections.

Have not had to use antibiotics or visit the Dr. for smoker related illness in over 3 yrs. Amen, I say!

No longer take Depression Meds

dosage level of high blood pressure medicine was lowered in mg

Decongestants & cold medications were a staple. I rarely use them now. I do have allergies that make some necessary.

I haven’t needed my allergy or asthma medications as frequently due to less flare-ups of both.

I use my asthma inhaler less and sometimes I can get away with using my vape to help me breathe better in a pinch–like when I forget my inhaler at home.

I was on antibiotics about every 3 months for various respiratory infections. Have not taken them at all since starting vaping.

I have increased my consumption of OTC allergy medications. Smoking tobacco did dull my reactions to airborne allergens.

Reduced my use of asthma medications

Started on 12mg, now on 0.3mg

Hardly use my Inhaler anymore at all!

Don’t use my inhaler or nebulizers anymore

I don’t get ill as much as I did when I was smoking colds, flu etc.

No more cough medicains

Decrease in cold medication

I have reduced my need for using an inhaler for asthma.

What?

Reduced allergy medication.

I feel better in general.

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Seems like long term risks & health implications are that we’re doing something right.

You anectdote, you.


 

What do Medical Experts say?

That’s here.


If you think we’re not screaming at the top of our much healthier lungs, you’re wrong.

happy



If you think we’re not paying attention, you may be mentioned here soon.



Added 4/06/16

Long Term Effects, MUST read:

Ecigs Health Effects R Cranfield Nov 24 2015.pdf


 

“Popcorn” lung came up again in the news.

I suggest a tall glass of liquid to hydrate due to the high salt

The WONDERFUL folks over at Vapers.Org.UK

released a Special Edition on 12/12/15:

I suggest a tall glass of liquid to hydrate due to the high salt content!

A Bucket Of Popcorn.

 



 

The FDA has deeming regulations in progress at the moment.

Go here and do something about that.

Then go here as well.


wonderful1


E-cigarette Research is HERE.

MORE e-cigarette research is also HERE.


Medical Professionals at MOVE are HERE.


See what vapers said about their e-cigarette use here in the first survey.


You can also find me here on Blasting News.

 

Always a work in progress-

please visit my website here.

More to come!

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin.

Dual Use. E-Cigarettes & Smoking. Shut UP Already.

headinsand


Dual Use. E-cigarettes & Smoking.

It seems there’s a pendulum swaying in the media for “experts” to ride.

No truth, mind you, they love speculation. What do they care, they’re gambling with YOUR lives, not theirs.

The love/hate affair with tobacco and the tax revenue it brings for public health, government and organizations is pretty well over.

They are studiously defending their own infidelity by trying to find things to convince you you’re doing something wrong. Why?

They’re trying to hide the clear and VERY public point of their irrelevance.  That’s why they want to regulate, restrict, tax & ban.

lenobreathe

Wait….. a minute…………………

It defeated the purpose of the bill when they weren’t classified as tobacco???

….. read that again…

They are a bunch of lying bastards.

Stings, doesn’t it?


Over 50 years of tobacco control hasn’t done what e-cigarettes are doing. They don’t like that kind of attention. They have agendas.

They’ll dote over children, then add in flavors. They talk about gateways. “Re-normalizing” smoking. They’ll spout off about the dangers of nicotine, they love to say “anecdotal” and and on occasion they like to toss in the “dual use” factor. For sport, I suppose. They have no integrity.


To have the “approved methods” and fail is fine-try harder – but don’t be a “dual user” with e-cigarettes!
“Experts” don’t want dual users?

TOO BAD.

So WHAT.

Shut UP already!


From the Hungarian Situation Report.

deathsquote hungarian situation


Some quit by default, some people just still like to SMOKE. Nothing wrong with that.

That’s their CHOICE.

They want to allude all the way to the tax collecting bank of your possible dual use as bad, that you may as well keep smoking.

(That keeps their revenue coming in.)


Dual use, in my view, is one of two things.

  1. You use both tobacco AND e-cigarettes because you like both and don’t want to stop your tobacco use.

  2. You haven’t found your “taste” and “strength” yet and until you do, will use both.

That’s it. There’s no “evil” of doing both. In fact, I encourage it for new vapers. Why?

It HELPS them!


You’re finding your way. Vaping is different from smoking.

Vaping CAN replace smoking – if you find your way with the right flavor, the right nicotine strength and the right style / generation of equipment you use, awesome.

If it just doesn’t work, you’re one of the approximately 2% who said that in the first survey.

It’s ok. The vaping community as a whole is not going to judge you.

Tobacco control experts may continue to scold you, though!


While you’re finding your way, please don’t listen to the “you’re a dual user, you may as well keep smoking” claims.

If you do continue to smoke, PLEASE keep in mind. You are NOT a failure.

I have believed all along the “approved” methods aren’t MEANT for you to succeed.

The Real Story Behind the Nicotine Patch and Smoking Cessation

In the first survey, I asked about dual use of e-cigarettes & smoking.

The first had 12%. In the second, I asked the same question.

Guess what, 12%.

In two separate surveys.


Does that mean I’m right? Well –  I’m asking vapers.

Who CARES?

The “experts” care, I suppose. Reducing smoking in any way should be the goal – if that were their GOAL.

They want you to “quit or die”.

quitdie


Nicotine Policy has their say here:
New research shows electronic cigarettes better for quitting, than no aid; over the counter NRT worse than no aid
Here, via Medical Press:
 Switching from conventional to electronic cigarettes reduced toxicant exposure, even for dual users
Michael Siegel on Dual Use:
Important New Study Documents that Dual Use is Not a Negative Consequence of E-Cigarette Use, But a Positive One

Here, unedited – from the latest survey, is what vapers have said about dual use.
dual use graph

The only time I dual use is because of rare severe emotional distress. Planning to get some NET liquid to see if it helps.


To me dual use is what I did in the first months of vaping. Now if I buy any cigarettes they are smoked till gone then I vape the rest of the time. I do not vape and smoke in the same day anymore – unless I run out of the cigarettes in the middle of a day.


I don’t consider an occasional slip dual use. It’s a continual fight.


I’m free!


quit smoking marlboro 3 weeks ago today. NO desire to go back


Day 1, I’m still shocked, every other NRT was an absolute failure.


Smoking one cigarette a month hardly makes me a dual user so I go with no, I don’t use tobacco products anymore.


I occasionally light up a traditional cigarette, to remind myself what it tastes like. This happens very rarely though. I also enjoy the taste of a nice vanilla cigar.


Within the past year I have smoked a total of 3 cigarettes. All of those occasions I forgot my e-cigarette home or ran out of batteries.


I have been smoke free for 1 year and 24 days.


During my time vaping I have used snus couple of times from friends but I don’t actually buy it myself or use it in major amounts, just occasionally.


I began by using vapor to replace every fifth cigarette. When that was comfortable, I replaced every fourth, and so on. After three weeks, I smoked my last tobacco cigarette and have been tobacco-free for 5.5 months and counting… even though I live with a pack-a-day smoker (he courteously smokes outside)


On occasions my liquids may run out, and i had not ordered more. At times like these i might smoke a day or two.


My dual using has mostly to do with the taste of e-cigs after eating. They taste like shit after you’ve eaten greasy food. I often have a morning cig too, since it just hits with all it’s chemicals the way ecig doesn’t. These two are my daily two “regular” cigarettes tho, everything else is covered by ecig and they do a much tastier job of it too.


sometimes when drunk


the first four days of vaping I was a dual user, at this point in time I never had a pack of cigarettes last four days I smoked two packs a day


I have friends who like to use a hookah device with flavored tobacco shisha, I use that occasionally but it isn’t even a once a month basis.


I still use snus


6 cigs in 2 years says I’ve stopped completely. That’s my answer and I’m sticking to it.



i think the other chemicals in tobacco have me in chains


Been 3 years clean and have never gone back to cigarettes


E-cigarettes helped me stopped smoking regular cigarettes all together!


I smell cigarettes now and get digusted by the smell i dont know how i ever smoked before


I now find smoking disgusting and hate the smell of it.


i vape a juice with sweet flavor, no tobacco and zero nicotine. the device is a metal box with a vapor tank, this is not smoking or a e cig.


I do not want anything to do with tobacco companies !


I know I wouldn’t have been able to quit without the use of my personal vaporizers


Again, the ecig along with Chantix did the trick for me!


Ever since making the switch to using e-cigs exclusively, I no longer have cravings of any kind for any tobacco products


I smoke when I go out drinking as it feels more social and I’m not worried about breaking or losing my mod


I can happily cope without cigarettes. And I would never touch a cig sober but sometimes my battery dies on a night out (because I stupidly forget to check how much charge is in it) and I’ll turn to smoking.


As I have said I do have the odd cigarette, but because I think ecigs are so amazing I know that in the not to distant future that cigarettes will finally at long last be a thing of the past


I have not had tobacco in over a week. I think I can finally make the switch to e-cigs


I have friends that still smoke, occasionally, when we get together, one will smell good so I will bum one from them. I’ll smoke about half, put it out, and wonder how I ever used those nasty things 16 + years.


As a matter of fact, my wife took a blood test to prove to our insurance company that she doesn’t smoke anmymore and PASSED!


I cannot stand the taste of tobacco based/flavoured eliquid, cannot stand the smell of tobacco smoke.




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Here is what they said on the 1st survey about dual use


E-cigarette Research is HERE.

MORE e-cigarette research is also HERE.


 Medical Professionals at MOVE are HERE.


Always a work in progress-

please visit my website here.

More to come!

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin.

Have E-Cigarettes Changed Your Life? Do you Advocate?

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E-cigarettes change lives.

We who have stopped smoking with an e-cigarette, some accidentally, have this enormous gratification after many years of trying all the approved methods.

We’ve been shamed, scolded, been given guilt trips, some have had health issues. Suddenly, we’ve succeeded in reducing or completely eliminating tobacco in our lives.

Suddenly, much to our surprise, without any hesitation, we’ve become empowered with knowledge. Again, accidentally in some cases.

Go here to do something:


 

We want others to be aware how easy for most of us it was to stop smoking. Some advocate. Some are activists. All the same to me. Turns out – some do, some don’t. Valid reasons below!

 

 


Do we relapse?

Well – Alan Beard, very eloquently I may add,  just covered that here: Relapse Prevention.


For the record:

617 “Big Vapors” responded!

79 “Sea Lions”!

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Not edited for spelling, worldwide responses.

Question # 45:

I had to ask this question. I wanted to see what would come of it, and tried to make it fun.




advocateactivist

Although I would say I’m an advocate (I’m more than happy to try an convert any smoker who crosses my path), I am unsure how to get into public advocacy, education and knowledge to help others.
Saturday, Sep 26th 3:39AM


I wouldn’t go as far as calling myself an advocate, there are many whom I will not belittle by calling myself such – many doing great work and far far more than I can hope to. Besides, I’m not very diplomatic, so dealing with stubborn nutters might end up with me stabbing someone. (Just kidding)

I do try and educate and inform wherever I can. I try and keep up with the articles on vaping in the news, and to call out the bullshit in these articles/tweets/posts/comments if applicable/neccecary. I do my best to post sources where allowed etc.

I am very much Pro-Vape and maybe a mini-advocate 😛
Tuesday, Aug 4th 7:15AM


I am constantly correcting people on their misconceptions and incorrect information that they put out there in regards to vaping. I also talk to people in regards to the difference between the two
Monday, Aug 3rd 7:17PM


Every person in my family who used to smoke, no longer does. Five vapers, all two years or more. I’m THRILLED.
Saturday, Aug 1st 6:42PM


I regularly speak to mp’s about proposed regulations and what negative impact on vaping they may have. Also active on forums and Facebook vaping groups. As well as signing petitions against regulations.
Friday, Jul 31st 6:56PM


I did had a Blog or still have, but it
has become pointless….
the only one reading them are the vapors
in my country…
All they can do is acknowledge my rants
Monday, Jul 27th 4:49PM


I’m limited on time because i work full time and have a family but i make as much noise as i can!
Monday, Jul 27th 12:59PM


i get very protective about vaping since i am a user and i know the benefits that it has brought to me
Wednesday, Jul 22nd 8:47AM


I’m not home right now in the states havn’t been for 5 years – when I get home I will be very active in my local government with vaping products.
Sunday, Jul 19th 9:50AM


Glantz! Enough said.
Friday, Jul 17th 5:01PM


I’m in dialogue with local health services and NHS about the words on their website.
Wednesday, Jul 15th 6:33PM


I am still new to this, but I see that this could save millions of people from chronic illness and horrible deaths and the risk that this tremendous opportunity may be lost because of the organized efforts of special interest groups.
Tuesday, Jul 14th 10:21PM


The way I see it, people should be able to do what they want. I’ll happily tell people it’s awesome and encourage them to try mine, but I’m not going to shove it down people’s throats.
Tuesday, Jul 14th 3:08PM


Out of 15 or so people that I have educated on vaping and who have decided to start vaping, over 10 of them have quit smoking completely. And I just converted another one this week! I am also a sea lion.
Tuesday, Jul 14th 2:29PM


As I’m staying in China, I face very different issues and have only limited opportunities to get involved. On a personal level, though, I’m passively active – that means, I use flashy, high-end gear which attracts attention and educate then. If I stayed in the West, I’d get involved a lot more.
Sunday, Jul 12th 9:03PM


Amen
Monday, Jul 13th 12:55PM


The only thing better than becoming a non-smoker is helping another to achieve the same goal. In the current anti-vape climate that means fighting the good fight to preserve the ability of others to quit smoking in the future.
Monday, Jul 13th 8:53AM


I have converted 3 smokers that I am aware of, and preach whenever possible.
Sunday, Jul 12th 7:18PM


I’m not really actuve, but if someone makes it easier for me, i. E. Points out surveys /petitions, I’ll participate
Sunday, Jul 12th 7:03PM


sea lions need love too.. sorry had to click it, the rest is true
Sunday, Jul 12th 5:49PM


I think everyone needs to know the difference between the 2, know that they are 1000% safer, that there’s no such thing as second hand vapor and that Vaping is NOT smoking. Smoking would require Fire, steam is not fire, it’s moisture. I could go on and on.
Sunday, Jul 12th 5:54PM


I used to blog, and was quite active online, but fatherhood has significantly reduced my “free” time. I very much want to be more vocal as I believe e-cigarettes have lengthened (and possible saved) my life for my son!
Sunday, Jul 12th 5:12PM


I do whatever I am able to spread proper information to whomever I am able to and to help educate everyone both smoker and non smoker.
Sunday, Jul 12th 2:33PM


LMAO….OK I have officially become a thing…Thank you for thd title?
Sunday, Jul 12th 1:57PM


Nuff said above. Being disabled with only partial use of my legs, I can only do so much then am shot, no longer can I do the things I once did. Now the little bit of what I do do, my pain levels go into hyper super over drive and I wind up screaming like a little girl because of the pain. Is what it is, I do what I can when I can, how I can for as long as I can.
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:14PM


There’s no need to push it on anyone, but when
they ask, I inform. Many has been converted, but
I’m not here to decide for anyone.
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:41PM


To be able to help someone be successful switching to e-cig is an honor. To be a small part of their journey to success is amazing. There has never been a more successful way to stop smoking in my life.
Sunday, Jul 12th 7:20AM


I started a vaping group on Facebook!
Sunday, Jul 12th 5:38AM


I try to help in any way I can, and I get help and input from others.
Sunday, Jul 12th 3:45AM


I try to spread the word but I’m not going out of my way to do it. I help the people I know. Most won’t quit smoking until they are ready anyway.
Saturday, Jul 11th 9:18PM


I am of limited resources, but I do what I can when I can, and would like to do more, but lifestyle restrictions limit my activity.
Saturday, Jul 11th 1:23PM


I condone vaping, I’m not a preacher.
Saturday, Jul 11th 2:57AM


It has become the biggest passion of my life besides my family. I have seen first hand on the devastation of what tobacco has done to my own family. I would not wish that on anyone!!
Saturday, Jul 11th 1:13AM


key word is breathing
Friday, Jul 10th 11:48PM


I have not been involved in organized advocacy. I have signed a few petitions. My work involves advocacy and support in a different area and most of the time my effort is spent there.
Friday, Jul 10th 10:34PM


Big supporter and believer
Friday, Jul 10th 8:34AM


I don’t force it to anyone, like vegans do to carnivores. If someone wants to know about it, I give them the information.
Tuesday, Jul 7th 6:42PM


Supporter of the new nicotine alliance.
Sunday, Jul 5th 10:54AM


If some one ask or start to talk with me when I’m vaping I try to advise them. I also give them information about e-cigarettes and if I’m unavailable to give them information that they want to know I give directions where they might find more if they are intrested.
Wednesday, Jul 1st 12:58AM


I do like to preach to the minions when I can tell them all I can till they get sick of me
Wednesday, Jul 1st 12:32AM

Not on Facebook/Twitter but on my Instagram account I am an advocate.
Wednesday, Jul 1st 7:44AM


I building my boxmods.
Wednesday, Jul 1st 3:38AM


I don’t hide the fact I vape, and if someone asks I try and educate them. I believe in “live and let live” kind of philosophy…as long as they don’t bother me, I don’t bother them.
Tuesday, Jun 30th 7:18PM


I do support the efforts of others as much as I can.
Tuesday, Jun 30th 2:55PM


I always try to convert smokers into vapers by positive encouragment.
Tuesday, Jun 30th 3:26PM


Perhaps I should be more involved, but I have only recently converted from cigarette (nearly 3 months) and am just finding my way through all the forum information – hence arriving at this survey.
Monday, Jun 29th 5:51AM



well that one was an easy one, I find it hard to understand why anyone that has switched and is aware of the issues, wouldn’t advocate
Sunday, Jun 28th 10:19PM


I dislike scaremongering and people who are collectively swayed by posts on social media which are clearly rubbish. On a personal level, the people who ask me about it, get my personal opinion which is that Vaping>Smoking. Safer, healthier (although not confirmed as healthy) etcetc
Sunday, Jun 28th 2:35PM


lol about Big Vapor!!
Sunday, Jun 28th 11:27AM


I have gotten into some pretty hot debates about my use of vaping. and during my battles I have been victorious. Knowledge is power and knowing the good and the bad and not being blind by either will be more beneficial to the cause.
Sunday, Jun 28th 11:02AM


If people don’t hear testimonies, what’s the point of them trying to quit? They don’t have proper knowledge on hardware.
Sunday, Jun 28th 11:04AM


I AM PROOF
(I really am)
Sunday, Jun 28th 10:46AM


Only thing I dislike more than propaganda is the people that decide to believe something with no evidence
Saturday, Jun 27th 11:45PM


Shouldn’t that be walrus… Coo coo ca choo 🙂
Saturday, Jun 27th 9:01PM


I convinced all my family (who were all smokers) about the benfits of vaping, now they all vape instead, though my old mother still smokes aswell as vapes sadly.
Saturday, Jun 27th 7:10PM


I helped run a local vape advocacy/user group for more than a year.
Saturday, Jun 27th 4:23PM


where is the one about donating money, time whatever is needed to help??
Saturday, Jun 27th 3:49PM


I believe in this product and industry so whole heartedly, that I became co-president of the Northern California chapter of SFATA, the Smoke Free Alternative Trade Association.
Saturday, Jun 27th 1:30AM


Fighting the fight, living the fight. Every day. Until corrupt government and corporations stop killing us.
Saturday, Jun 27th 1:19AM


Open the window. Join us in our shoutfest.
Friday, Jun 26th 9:12PM


I’m honored to have been called a “Northern Hemisphere Vape Troll” by an Australian politician…
Friday, Jun 26th 4:54PM



I will be involved with the next state hearing, I’ve written letters, emails and made calls since switching to stop the incredibly irresponsible propaganda.
Thursday, Jun 25th 3:55PM


I am involved with trying to give people the correct information and I am involved in groups on line and a supporter of the nna
Thursday, Jun 25th 7:42AM


I was much more involved at the beginning. Now, I let the others do the work.
Thursday, Jun 25th 3:41AM

NNA 4 LYFE!
Wednesday, Jun 24th 6:16PM


Personally assisted with the quiting of smoking of 4 other people. They are happier and healthier now.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 4:37PM


Fuck Big Tobacco – I smoke on my terms, and will 99.9% of the time choose an ecig over a tobacco product.


Wednesday, Jun 24th 9:11AM

My parents were 30+ year smokers. I got them vaping and now my mom doesn’t Vape anymore and my dad loves it. ✋
Wednesday, Jun 24th 9:01AM


Not much going on locally on activism. No point in doing the MURICAN stuff as I’m not from there or living there.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 7:40AM


i was somehow evolved but became sick of all the drama
Wednesday, Jun 24th 6:41AM


I do occasionally get blocked by vapers, strangely enough. They are negative or even try to block your actions. Sometimes really strange.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 6:12AM


I’m signed up with CASSA
Wednesday, Jun 24th 5:20AM


Fuck big tobacco!
Wednesday, Jun 24th 4:28AM


I could not activate the questions re order of benefits, for some reason? But My number 1 answer would be to explain the differences between vaping and smoking.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 9:12PM


Sadly I scream the benefits much less now, did more when first starting out. Got absolutely tired of explaining over and over how much false crap there is in articles.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 8:34PM


I do not involve in advocacy bcause i am quite hot blooded. I can’t stand lies, i can’t stand the way advocacy has to be done. I would probably end up in jail 😉 However, i try as much as i can to make people switch to ecig if they get interested. Explaining, lending some kind of “basic kits” to let them try without spending too much money, giving advices….and so on.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 5:33PM


I have been able to explain benefits to smokers, some have made the switch but some others failed, and I not able to understand why they failed (even if I have asked, it appears that themselves they don’t really know , they have nothing to reproach to e-cigarettes…)
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 4:26PM


It does change a life. I was heading to a slow death holding a cigarette.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 2:33PM


I am proof
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 1:06PM


I advocate against the corruption and abuse of science for financial benefits not only for vaping but for smoking and other corrupted issues as well.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 12:42PM


While not as active as some, I am a very active, loud voice in the vaping community.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 10:32AM


The local BBC radio station regard me as knowledgeable and have interviewed me on more than one occasion. (I’m also a vendor)
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 10:04AM


I found this Survery 😉 !
CASAA
TVM
SFATA
VAV
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 6:32AM


QUESTION 44… was unable to move them in order from my computer!
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 8:37AM


If someone wants to quit, I recommend e-cigs, and a friend of mine has already quit tobacco.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 5:24AM


Check our site in the Netherlands. Only just on-line.
www.hiermagjedampen.nl
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 6:03AM


I am a seal lion? Really? Cool 🙂
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 5:54AM


I try to do all I can to try and get the word out.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 4:42AM


President of Vapers Finland, Finnish Association of vapers
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 4:36AM


I did attend the damp protest in Utrecht
(Netherlands) last month.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 3:53AM


I am a full time advocate, a part time activist and a part time agitator with both ANTZ and other advocates. With ANTZ, this means arguing with them over their logical fallacies, exposing them as frauds. With other advocates, I explore new ideas in advocacy – I put them out there to be picked apart, refined and eventually, for others to use in advocacy.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 1:05AM


I have several health conditions that have very little to do with my past history of smoking and definitely nothing to do with vaping. I have MVP syndrome along with two opposite autoimmune thyroid diseases; smoking may have helped damage my thyroid, but it also allowed me to raise two boys until they got old enough to do for themselves because smoking also masks thyroid disease symptoms. I do what I can, when and where I can from an advocacy standpoint.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 12:32AM


I am deaf so I don’t like to go talk in person to someone regarding them. I am rather anti government and do now wish to talk to them at all as much as I know that is not right it is just my not being able to handle the stress they cause in double speak. Online I have told my story so often and very little good it does. I do a lot of comments on news items online and I use twitter as well as facebook. I keep a google+ page for the links that I think are relevant to where I live or about new science regarding vaping.
Monday, Jun 22nd 4:00PM


I am on vttv
Monday, Jun 22nd 5:48PM


I do what I can. I’m a firm believer that e-cigarettes, even if they were found simply to reduce the chances of lung and heart issues by 50% (IE they were still rather dangerous) would still be worth having over normal cigs.

The fact that seems unlikely, and that no-one has found any real, serious side effects so far (nothing that’s an absolute game stopped) just makes me more of an advocate for them.
Monday, Jun 22nd 4:01PM


Selling e-cigs I talk to people about them every day and try and educate them. I sign any petition I can, share them wherever I can.
Monday, Jun 22nd 3:00PM


Again, editorial staff 🙂 Sending correction notices to media, writing an information leaflet for politicians, the whole nine.
Monday, Jun 22nd 1:51PM


Non of my biker buddies smoke anymore due to ecigarettes. I have helped them with getting started and I’m very proud of that. It’s a real achievement for me.
Monday, Jun 22nd 2:17PM


I do as much as I can, whenever I can to make sure other smokers have the same choices I had.
Monday, Jun 22nd 2:28PM

I feel at times that what the feck are we doing here, seems like we a losing at every turn with bans popping up everywhere, but I know the importance of fighting on as the tide is very slowly turning in our favor.
The legislation IS COMING and we should try our damndest to shape this legislation to keep vaping a viable option to smoking.
Monday, Jun 22nd 8:45AM



Via ecigarette-politics.com , this is a PDF called

The Vaping Advocate’s Rules For Campaigning

If you’re in the USA- please SEE THIS NOW.


Research is HERE.

Research is also HERE.

Medical Professionals at MOVE are HERE.


Visit my website here.

More to come!

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin.


Medical Professionals Speak Out on E-Cigarettes.

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What do medical professionals decide with their patients?

How are e-cigarettes now being discussed along side their colleagues and organizations?

How do professionals feel about them as a tool for tobacco harm reduction?


One response was

“Nothing is more detrimental to your health than inhaling burning tobacco”



The following answers are as they were, in full, to each question in this survey. It is all here for you as a professional to see what your colleagues have said.


 *Update 4/13/16:

The survey below was used as one of many references here:

Views from the Coalface: What Do English Stop Smoking Service Personnel Think about E-Cigarettes?


As an individual the information you see may help you decide an e-cigarette is right for you –  based on these responses and other responsible science, research and other links on this blog.

There was no editing of comments, including spelling.

I did remove 2 responses – one admitted they were not a health/medical professional, one only answered the 1st 2 questions. All else is intact here.

This is what the medical community said.


0155 decided to leave their names.


Question 2. Please give your professional opinion on e-cigarettes.

85% said they are safer than combustible cigarettes.

02Professional



Comments:

Nothing is more detrimental to your health than inhaling burning tobacco
Anybody who says anything to the contrary should not be working in healthcare.
I am not convinced they are aiding people to stop smoking I’ve seen patients using them as an alternative when in a no smoking area and it seems to be encouraging more smoking
No tobacco and nicotine is optional
But depends on it flavouring ingredient. Higher the nicotine, less safe it will be.
I have no doubt about this and I see them as a huge public health breakthrough

 “Other”

Are less harmful than cigarettes.
safer but..

Question 3. Have you as a professional received any information from an association or any organization about e-cigarettes?

03info


Comments:

Canadian Medical Association, Vancouver Island Health Authority, BC Medical Health Officer, Heart & Stroke Association, the list is too long…

I switched to an ecig so that way I could lower my nicotine and take one puff instead of wasting a whole cigarette.

I use one myself and there are no carcinogens in my e-juice.

National Centre for Smoking Cessation & Training (NCSCT)

ASH UK

Public Health England

“Other”

I have done my own research

Received both positive negative and forward-looking


Question 4. When Patients ask about e-cigarettes I:

77% will tell patients an e-cigarette is an option.

04patientasksComments:

and encourage them to use it.
It’s called Champix in UK
Because the college of nurses of ontario has not made an official statement I can’t legally make vaping an alternative smoking cessation option. Side note – I vape doe….
I would advise my patients against them as not enough is known about their content and effect there are many alternatives that have proven effectiveness I feel are safer
I would tell them that in my opinion that it appears safer than combustible type. they should also try smoking cessation. Especially if there may be a health diagnosis that would be a contraindication to e cigarettes.
Being a cna I’m not in the position. To write a prescription but I talk to those that are interested.
All forms of smoking carry some risk whether it be cigarettes, hookah, e-cigarettes, etc. I don’t know of many people who have successfully quit smoking all together using e-cigarettes. I feel like people just trade one addiction for another. Which is worse I don’t know.
Closest to real smoking with hand to mouth action.
If they take more nicotine contain ingredient, they may addict to it. Less nicotine is much better.
It’s important on a lot of levels that stop smoking services talk about licensed meds, but many patients will have tried them before, unsuccessfully. Ecigs offer new hope

 “Other”

Suggest e-cigarettes
Inform them it’s likely the least healthy, but also by far the most effective.
Both ecigarette and counseling
I’ve never been asked that, but I would encourage quitting cold turkey. From what I’ve been told, that’s the best way to quit.
depends..


Question 5. Do you have or know of patients who smoke fewer cigarettes or who have stopped smoking using an e-cigarette?

05stopped

Comments:

I have worked with patients who have used ecigs in combination with traditional nrt to quit

Myself included.

My patients are typically marked as a smoker or nonsmoker… Anesthesia makes that determination and I’ve never asked if they would still be marked as a smoker with the e-cigarette.

I myself have been smoke free for 9.5 months with this cessation tool.

Our service has seen success on both levels ie complete cessation and cutting down, which MAY ultimately lead to cessation, just more slowly

“Other”

There are dual users. Self-reporting amounts are not very accurate.

More people than not.


Question 6.  If a patient says they stopped using tobacco with an e-cigarette I will

06nonsmokerComments:

would like to have option c-cig user..

Depending on the nicotine use so that the patient may receive a nicotine patch while in our locked no smoking/vaping unit.

Will make a note in the chart about vaping and note nic strength and amount of use.

I’m not sure if swapping one habit for another is a positive step they would need to quit the e cigarettes first

One whole year.

National guidance from PHE has come out that if people are not smoking they are non-smokers! Not everyone has caught on however

I don’t understand. If they have stopped have they stopped using both e-cigarette and regular cigarettes?

“Other”

document that the patient state they use e cigarettes

Comment that the pasient used to smoke cigarettes but have stopped and is now vaping. For medical staff.

Doesn’t apply to my field

I don’t know

See comment to question 5.


Question 7. Of patients who use electronic cigarettes have you

07healthbenefits

Comments:

This is a very poorly worded question.

Noted reductions in COPD and GERD in different patients

In the nursing home a patient switched and when she goes outside to vape she no longer has a phlegmy cough and sleeps through the night better.

Only mental health is routinely monitored within my service. Service users successfully quitting or reducing smoking through ecigs appear to have improved self-esteem after stopping smoking.

“Other”

no comment

Some astmathic pasients have decreased lung problems after they starter vaping and use inhalors less frequently.

Noticed exaserbated symtoms of conditions

N/a

N/A. I see my patients for one day typically, so I am unable to assess progress or trends of that nature.

I’m a Quitcard provider and have only recently had clients use e-cigarettes containing nicotine so haven’t noticed changes yet.

Question 8. When discussing electronic cigarettes with colleagues have you

08colleaguesComments:

We generally agree that ecigs are a safer alternative, so long as nicotine levels are being reduced below that of traditional cigarettes

The hospital I work for has a no smoking/vaping policy. I work on the mental health unit and I believe that this is unjust. Patients I care for are supposed to be therapeutically relaxed and taking away a self therapy such as smoking is more detrimental to our patients trying to adjust after being involuntarily committed.

E cigarettes banned however most staff believe they shouldn’t be

Most of my co-workers smoke. A few have quit smoking using personal Vaporizors (e-cig), so they have not only researched the topic, they have observed improved health in the people they care for, they have experienced first hand how helpful it is to use an e-cig as a method to help them quit and like the results and the process much better than when they took chantix.

Staff continue to be resistant to SUs vaping near them, due to false perceptions of harm to bystanders.
Organisation has prohibited the use of ecigs indoors & rejected my appeal to reverse this decision

Many have quit.

I often discuss this with colleagues from other areas, disciplines, who are initially sceptical but who become convinced of the positive effects, especially once they listen to vapers

Question 9. What changes do you note in patients who switch from smoking to vaping.

09changesComments.

In general, not personally.

Far better mental health is very notable: being released from the grips of tobacco after decades is really life changing for people.

I see less ups and downs in behaviors in the ones who have quit smoking and now use a vaporizor (e-cig).

Activity tolerance is improved noticeably

I don’t have enough interaction with pts who are using e-cigarettes to answer.

“Other”

Decreased use of antibiotics, inhalors and other drugs in several asthmatic pasients.

N/A

improved mental health following success in making positive changes

As above, clients of mine have only recently started using e-cigarettes so I haven’t noticed any changes yet.

Question 10. Please finish this sentence: Nicotine without delivery by combustible cigarettes is:

4% think nicotine is dangerous,

25% think nicotine is addictive.

10nicotineis

Comments

A viable treatment option for smokers wanting to quit and should be encouraged to be used alongside behavioural support

It’s not addictive.

Nicotine is a stimulant with known brain receptors, however, so is caffeine. Research is ongoing but seems to be pointing towards a less addictive status of nicotine versus that of cigarettes.

Nicotine when isolated from the noxious fumes of combustion in tobacco is far less damaging than we are being led to believe.

I’d almost say it’s no cause for concern, but it is a mild stimulant and depressant, and no drug use is healthier than full abstinence (caffeine included)

It also causes an increase in blood pressure, vasoconstriction, and increases the risk for blood clots.

Like Caffeine. Nicotine is actually good for certain medical conditions as dementia, diabetes, depression, ADHD, and colitis.

Possibly the best way of preventing relapse to smoking, with huge public health benefits. Healthcare professionals and politicians should get over their horror of nicotine

Still not quitting. Which should be your goal!

Probably addictive but may not be via nicotine patches and low dose gum, lozenges and e-cigarettes

“Other”

An e-cigarette
An addictive stimulant

 Question 11. As a medical professional I

63% would definitely recommend e-cigarettes

17% are cautious

6% would never recommend e-cigarettes.

11recommendComments.

Support anyone wanting to stop smoking regardless of method of cessation
I Recommend it to patients who have tried traditional methods without success. If someone wants to quit nicotine completely they should use all available methods, but if they’re unsuccessful that’s when I recommend vaping.
This survey has made me write an email to my college seeking guidance. Thank you.
Wouldn’t recfomend as not allowed to; however I believe they are a good alternative for patients in long stay in patient wards who have no desire to quit
I do not feel I can give an evidence based answer to anyone who asks about e cigarettes and more research is needed
Its an easier way to slowly decrease nicotine intake.
Only cautiously because employer bans their use & may be punitive towards staff actively encouraging SUs to vape
Safer alternative to smoking and can be used a cessation tool if they choose.
The biggest benefits could be among communities where smoking is a chronic relapsing condition that robs people of their health and their disposable income ie the poor, people who have serious mental health problems, prisoners, people who have poor physical health
I believe that we should be encouraging pts to stop smoking and vaping to improve their health.
As a Quitcard provider rather than a medical profession.
“Other”
however I still recommend vaping due to other testemonies I’ve heard from other users and professionals..
Would recommend quitting smoking all together.

Question 12. Thank you for taking this survey. Please feel free to leave any comments.

12

I’m an e-cig user and would recommend it to all smokers to try them without the pg in it first before they try it with pg. As a lot of people are allergic to the propylene glycol
Gen. 1 e-cigs were not effective for me personally, the gen 2 was, and helped me quit smoking after a pack and half a day 40+ year habit. I have been tobacco free for a year 7/26/15, and nicotine free since Christmas 2014.
I vape myself. Cannot recommend it highly enough.
The Tobacco Products Directive will be a public health disaster, and will crush an industry which has given more hope to people than any in the 21st century (okay except maybe electric cars, robots)
A significant number of service users were utilising ecigs in the service & had quit or reduced cigarettes. Following prohibition of their use indoors, some service users have resumed smoking as they did before.
I am an ecig user & activist myself
I myself have been smoke free for 9.5 months with the use of e-cig. I feel so much better now. And so does my pocket book.
The improvement is depend on user itself. Ingredient of flavour is the main component to give attention.
I hope you get lots of people completing the survey, well done

Once the survey was over, the participants were given a link to both Ecigarette-Research and M.O.V.E.


ADDED 01/13/17

Physician Advice for e-Cigarette Use

 


To be sure the record is clear, I specifically targeted some of the renowned tobacco control “experts” and organizations around the world repeatedly to take this survey for complete balance within the answers. To my knowledge they did not.

For all the effort these worldwide organizations and individuals do to claim e-cigarettes are bad, I wanted to be very public about allowing the opportunity for them to speak their minds as well.

Just a few examples:

a

b c  e

– – – – –

This survey was put out before Public Health England released their evidence to the world.

(Public Health England)

Public Health England Ecigarettes_an_evidence_update_A_report_commissioned_by_Public_Health_England(6)


The film A Billion Lives

is no longer being censored!


Added 8/29/16:

 

Majority of US doctors discussing electronic cigarettes with their patients


 

If you are a non-profit vaping / e-cigarette friendly organization and aren’t already listed,

you can be listed on the front page of my website for free.


More to come including the results of the 2nd “Vaping Truth Survey”.

As always,

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin.

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