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Researchers Try Nicotine To Treat Memory Loss
More positive involvement using the word, (and the chemical) “nicotine”. This is good. This makes people who know better nervous. Excellent. More research I say! Think about it… if kids thought nicotine is good for you, they would avoid it like… oh never mind. I also secretly hope there is a use for those patches taking up shelf space.
Speaking of “The Children™”, ‘one’ Commissioner of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) wants to stop less harmful products being advertised because of no other reason: “even if they are targeted at kids”.
Meet Jessica Rosenworcel. Jessica is an “Impatient optimist. Mom, wife,” and of all things an “inveterate coffee drinker.” Huh.
CDC Misleads by calling E-cigarettes a ‘Tobacco Product’
No kidding. Already established abroad, The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) has incorrectly defined…. oh never mind. I am grateful for the American Council on Science and Health taking this on.
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Vape Radio
Vape Radio has had a fundraiser up for about a month. (I completely missed it!) In my opinion, Rod and his team are like this blog. They get the word out. They contribute to and talk about advocacy. They’re #LOUDER.
The Vaping Legion had him on here last week. If you are able to contribute, wonderful, If not, please share.
Let’s see… covered misleading, covered the children™. How about some arrogance? Are you like what is described as the “average American” who is “resentful toward those who tell him or her how to live”? So am I.
This is an eye-opening perspective from a Doctor, in proper form:
From across the pond, Dave Cross (another I admire) at Planet Of The Vapes has taken on the task of informing our community of two heartbreaking deaths.
Surgeon General Watch: Data, Snippets, and Narratives
As we slip into the third week of my one-man #SGWatch on Twitter, I took a harder look at what Dr. Adams says, and does, on his personal account – and what he doesn’t on his professional account as U.S. Surgeon General. Oh, and confusion. A general mess. That’s covered as well:
Then, because Mike started it, I spent over an hour on the 34th episode of Vaping and the Mic (and even showed my face) to discuss snippets, narratives and data…
Is access to public data an unreasonable request? What will the complete data reveal? Are snippets of data the best way to inform the public? If the full spectrum of the data is withheld, what is real, what is contrived?
“If you repeat a lieoften enough, it becomes the truth.”
The problem with research misconduct must be of epidemic proportions. So much so, the Department of Health and Human Services has its own division defining such misconduct called the Office of Research Integrity (ORI), and a definition of said misconduct.
“Research misconduct is defined as fabrication, falsification, or plagiarism in proposing, performing, or reviewing research, or in reporting research results.”
“Falsification is manipulating research materials, equipment, or processes, or changing or omitting data or results such that the research is not accurately represented in the research record.”
It would seem all data would be required to have a clear picture of the information being displayed presented to make an informed case, decision, or outcome. The authority in charge has no business writing or promoting a narrative, when data can and shall speak for itself.
Instead, snippets become headlines, and headlines create the story narrative.
“If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth“
In the case of e-cigarettes, and the latest “data” on youth use, it is to present manipulate the claim of an ‘epidemic’ in order to willfully threaten legal adult choices, using snippets of data designed to “fit a narrative” as my friend, U.S. Surgeon General, Dr. Jerome Adams has done, and has accused.
It’s backward. Snippets (subliminal or not) can sell ideas. Create campaigns. Change public opinion.
Mining for data can be useful. Depending on the criteria, displaying data to ones liking is misleading. Similar to Stanton Glantz below, that is propaganda.
Skewed data is…well, you can make anything look like you want it to look for your own purposes. I think I am afraid of both films Nicolas Cage appears in, and pools. Why? I’m not sure what I’m afraid of, Nicolas Cage isn’t his real name, but looking at data tells me I should… Oh never mind.
In this blog, I will attempt to demonstrate two things. First, the following tweets and subtweets can be confusing. Second, if I can post things in here properly and explain, you won’t be confused. Either way, they are snippets, and you’ll probably be confused.
It started with (well, not really, I’m using my interpretation of the data) a question to the highest “ranking” Medical Doctor from Mike Peterson:
@Surgeon_General , sir, you replied to @vapingit that "some independent vape shops have an equally high violation rate." Would you supply the data for this claim, as the @US_FDA data set does not support this same suggestion.
In this tweet, the Surgeon General clearlyseems to has “doubts” that Mike “really wanted this information”. Surgeon General Adams must not look away from his snippets accomplishments on his “I love me” wall and must be suspicious of anyone questioning his integrity my snippet. Shame on you, Mike!
Oh, I think Mike wanted the information. That’s alright, Dr. Adams. You don’t require my assurance adults are looking harder than you are for any detrimental outcomes of any facet of e-cigarettes.
It’s not as if we’re a large and growing community of consumers including Doctors like yourself, Lawyers, Teachers, Nurses, Statisticians, Scientists, Cooks, Truck Drivers, and other professionals, along with lovers of data and science. And math. In fact, one of us is a… nope… my narrative, so further down the data hole you go.
I’ll insert a quick snippet from my personal life. The words from a Neurologist to my wife was:
“We’re setting up testing for onset of Alzheimer’s and dementia.”
Is that a snippet of a much greater assessment? Can you discern from the quote she, in fact, has Alzheimer’s or dementia? Do you have enough data to make the determination? You really don’t know. I’m saving it for a different blog.
Note the words ” in the interest of correcting misunderstandings”. Misunderstandings are snippets, Dr. Adams. Vape shops aren’t included in “this” analysis is correct, by stating “equally high violation rate”, you overstepped your ego, data, or knowledge, position narrative.
I know I said I wasn’t going to comment but in the interest of correcting misunderstandings, this looked at retail chains. Most all vape shops are independent, so they aren’t included in this analysis- but fact is some independent vape shops have an equally high violation rate.
He’s right. Snippet. The statement just above was “they aren’t included in this analysis” and “shops have an equally high violation rate“, and refers to this graphic he posted below:
I proudly show you my snippet! Go ahead, click on it, it’ll enlarge.
Because he was prompted by – anyone’s comments – and saw my amateur hour cut/paste of his just above, below he explains how narrative and roles to play suddenly are important. His data went from “equally high violation rate” to some vape shops. Also, he displays his knack of interacting with the public quite… well, I’ll let you come to your own conclusions. Go ahead, click on it, it’ll get bigger!
“It’s easy to cut & paste snippets”…because the whole picture isn’t a narrative, I just couldn’t let that one go. If data and information is explained properly, there is no need for “snippets”. Go ahead, click on it, it’ll get bigger!
Here, I’m not sure if he’s being condescending on purpose, or if he just doesn’t know he’s tweeting to a known impugner. I am also an uneducated “backwardsbackwoodsman from one of the colonies.” (Thanks, Alan, I knew that would come in handy eventually! ) Oh, go on, there’s something I was determined to take out of context. Damn me. Go ahead, click on it, it’ll get bigger!
To further reiterate his position snippet, he grabs some more data from his cuff and explains some gibberish about technical stuff I probably wouldn’t understand anyway… something about this does look like a high ranking public health official explaining a snippet narrative, maybe it’s just me. We’ve gone from … well, this data thing just isn’t my forte’.
Well, Mike (he’s mentioned above), and Jake got data. In fact, they mined the data. Turns out twenty-one money penalties were assessed. Go ahead, click on it, it’ll get bigger!
To “That Damned Ninga, he agrees. Vape shops are “doing much better”… he also wants everyone else to agree. I often forget I’m constantly asked to agree with something because it will fit a narrative. I wonder what happens when the public just nods their head in agreement when a public official says to. Couldn’t be all bad, I suppose. Either way, he wants everyone to agree. By golly, I’m almost going to agr…. nope. Go ahead, click on it, it’ll get bigger!
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Trusting the highest doctor in the land to provide competent, well-constructed answers to convey issues with facts, when he, in fact, won’t do it seems futile. Instead, he has chosen to act on authority, instinct, and sticks to the data (dammit) script.
“If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth.”
Then, addressing (you and me) the public as if we’re a bunch of nine-year-olds is pretty – well, idiotic. Starting at about the time I could talk, I’ve questioned authority and integrity a long time. Pre-loaded answers come with loaded questions where I come from – the backwoods of one of the original colonies.
In fact, I’ll use your “It’s easy to cut & paste snippets” own sarcastic words against you, Dr. Adams. Also, I have repeatedly asked for data. So much so, it’s redundant, repetitive and repeats itself. It should, could, may, might or even would, speak for itself.
The reason I keep asking the same questions over and over?
Dr. Adams own words:
In the meantime, if you’re approaching a city, township, county, or state hearing about sales to minors, or that vape shops are contributing to the delinquency of minors, I highly suggest these two graphics to use at your disposal, just as the Heart, Lung, Cancer, and other healthorganizations will. Let them sort it out with facts, not preconceivednotions and media sound bitessnippets (dammit) data.
Here’s the chart from Jake Jacobsen: According to data, if you click on it, it’ll get bigger!
Here is the chart alone from Mike Peterson: Yep, click:
Bring your nose a bit closer to the screen – at a second glance, this is what you may have missed: Wait, back up, just click!
The overall narrative is to put big scary numbers out, fueling the fire of an epidemic. I (we, vapers paying attention) want the truth. I don’t for one minute think any of us want anything less, good or bad. We’re adults, we can take the snippets data.
When looking at inspections just above, there is no “epidemic”, and the fact is, in 2018:
There were 146,376 inspections.
There were 17,456 total violations
Of 17,456 violations, 2,060 were “ends and e-liquid.
Of those violations, 229 were vape shops. (Vape shops: STOP that.)
Things that make you go hmmmm…..
And Juul? If you believe their “epidemic” data, Vuse was the front runner of underage sales violations at 1,729… so, they should have at least tried harder at purchasing Juul to complete the narrative.
Silly data makers. Go ahead, scroll back up if you need to. I’ll wait.
Sounds as if you’re still confused. I apologize for torturing you, but I feed a mouse cheese just to do my math for me.
This an enforcement issue all the way around. Underage sales at vape shops are NOT a contributing factor to an epidemic, which is still a snippet of the overall message portrayed. Kids stealing from their parents like they did cigarettes? Probably. Straw purchases? Likely.
Illegal sales – meeting the “definition” of an ‘epidemic’? Doubtful.
Snippet alert:
Found in my previous “Nod In Agreement” blog here.
“If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth.”
On to the “epidemic”.
If, after reading this blog, you are still confused, I will conclude, from snippets, and so shall you, that confusion is intentional. The snippet below is a confusing mess, by design. The bottom right tweet on his personal account, in a “non-official” capacity, was just a few days before he announced as Surgeon General there indeed “is” an epidemic. I hope we can all agree, the data is in the contrived details. Go ahead, click on it, it’ll get bigger!
“Morals are standards set by those who want their standards met by others.”
I don’t want situational ethics, nor do I want morals and feelings mixed into the narrative. Here is what I want. I want the law to be obeyed. I want parents to be aware, not act on “reefer madness” type propaganda, and ultimately, parents to parent.
Specifically, I want the data to speak for itself. Both for adults looking for a safer alternative to smoking, and the narrative of an “epidemic” to be scrutinized, specifically when a public HEALTH official is threatening adult choices for less harmful products – unless we agree with his narrative. Jim McDonald says it best.
We won't tell smokers that vaping is safer until a few vapers on Twitter admit that a large increase in occasional use constitutes an epidemic of addiction.
No kidding, that's exactly what he's saying. It's a threat, and it's not appropriate for a public health official. https://t.co/5k0IMDiSmr
Unless you suffer from cognitive dissonance, I want the data as it stands, not as it fits my narrative “out of context” with some silly twitter snippets, Dr. Adams. I don’t want to hear about plausible deniability. I don’t want proof by assertion. Confirmation bias is unnecessary.
I want the public to be aware of the best information available rather than striking panic in the streets.
So, what’s the snippet? What’s the truth? Still confused? So are adults looking for answers to a less harmful alternative.
“If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth.”
I am a consumer, while I try to be a voice for consumers, I don’t speak for “all” consumers. I have a higher standard for medical and government officials. The Surgeon General of the United States (or any public official) should not rely on “googlesearches” (in a personal or public capacity) to fill a narrative.
In my assessment, Dr. Adams should post facts. Period.
Snippet Alert!
The Surgeon General should resign or be fired. Immediately. That’s my narrative. That’s my snippet.
With that, no high ranking publicemployee official has no business writing, or tweeting, or sharing an opinion, or narrative, when data shall speak for itself.
I’ll stick to my guns, check on my wife, and keep my #SGWatch up to see when comprehensive information to adults has been displayed with half the attention the ‘epidemic’ has received.
I’ll readily and publicly admit I’m wrong, but until that happens, Dr. Adams has to answer these questions concerning the ‘epidemic’:
What users were of legal age?
What users didn’t use nicotine?
How many were smoking & switched?
Why is marijuana included with “any vaping“?
Why is “use” defined as in the past thirty days, not daily?
Until that happens, I’ll keep pointing out discrepancies in the narrative of an alleged epidemic, or one of you can convince me why I shouldn’t.
For balance, after the release of and tagging him in this blog: (Coincidence? Doesn’t matter. Snippets.)
Important study, with important caveats: 1) This was done in UK (diff legal/ regulatory environment) in motivated quitters who presented to clinic & 2) trial accompanied meds with behavioral support -> so was Cadillac scenario 3) OK for adults DOESNT mean ecigs are safe for kids.
Oh, that’s right, I’ve got that screenshot snippet from a Dr. Girgis… wait a second… it’s… Yes, legal and regulatory environments. That’s right. No guidelines. Except when.
Snippet alert: showing “restraint”.
I highly recommend what Clive Bates has to say on the alleged U.S. “epidemic“.
THIS one is an eye-openingmust-read for ANY aspect of public health. Your opinions aren’t about your needs. Stop being nannies.
“The average American is like my patient: resentful toward those who tell him or her how to live.”
Dr. Gottlieb of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) tweeted “e-cigs can help currently addicted adult smokers quit; and improve their health.” If you had internet connection issues yesterday, it may have been jolting shocks of horror from ‘experts’ seeing what he tweeted.
This isn’t the first reference to less harm, Dr. Gottlieb has passivelystated in the past: “If you could take every adult smoker and fully switch them to e-cigarettes, that would have a substantial public health impact”. He’s also stated:
“E-cigarettes may present an important opportunity for adult smokers to transition off combustible tobacco products and onto nicotine delivery products that may not have the same level of risks associated with them.” (Source)
That’s pretty big news no one is hearing over the incessant chanting from others. If a “substantial public health impact” is a goal, Dr. Gottlieb will have to speak up. (I can barely hear him.) How about, oh – I don’t know, maybe a press conference with a mandatory presence of the alleged “health leaders” for a start.
Dr. Gottlieb will have to speak up if a “substantial public health impact” is a goal:
In the four years (hard to believe, today) since the release of the results of my consumer survey, I have finally seen a credible and official statement saying “e-cigs can help currently addicted adult smokers quit; and improve their health.” from the Commissioner of the FDA.
This isn’t a secret. No one is listening. It’s something consumers have said all along.
I can’t be so arrogant to believe these tweets came from my urging, but I was shocked to read what Dr. Gottlieb said. Maybe he isn’t using his (this is funny) mute button! I’m skeptical, he’s at least tweeted it – with a comment about improving health. Twice. Vape shops are not permitted to say that. In my book, it’s better than a poke in the eye.
I can’t ask for… Wait, if the goal of reducing smoking is the goal, I’ll expect much more.
In my excitement, I mistakenly linked the Surgeon General from his personal account on a few nudges. However, I included him in other tweets in his “official” capacity. So far, no reference to this new study has been made from his personal or official account.
No “health group” has mentioned Alex Azar’s statement below. This information is NOT foreign to Dr. Adams or Dr. Gottlieb. They were present when U.S. Department of Health & Human Services Secretary Alex Azar spoke these words:
Those ‘experts‘ I referred to above? The horror must’ve made them leave early to grab their favorite flavored Starbucks coffee. With Gottlieb making a statement like he did, I was eager to see if the American Heart, Lung, Cancer, or even Tobacco-Free Kids may, might, or could have mentioned it.
In conducting a quick general twitter search for the article link and found –ZERO– mentions from those organizations front groups. So much for a public health impact.
If smoking is “the single largest preventable cause of death and illness in the world”… and all “health” organizations are about health, and improving health, then why does my pal DrMA below need to raise awareness of their omission a day after Gottlieb’s statement …
The headlines are wonderful, the truth is the average number of attempts for a smoker to stop is 30. The success rates of gums and patches are about 7%. The average success of e-cigarettes is 70% (low end), or more, and they know it, government funded research proves it. Downplaying it, giving it no attention isn’t informing the public. That doesn’t improve health.
Change The Conversation
It’s time for public health and politicians to make a decision:
They want less smoking, or they don’t.
They want less harm, or they don’t.”
CALL THEM OUT
If making public health a priority and “improving health” is their goal… With all we do know, EVERY single township, official, city, who have regulated, restricted or banned 18, 19, and 20-year-olds from less harm and choice should be questioned – having an opportunity to explain themselves.
EVERY news outlet should be screaming about improving health with e-cigarettes, and interviewing every single township, official, city, health group and expert in the area who restricted or banned those choices.
Consumers (like me) take it upon themselves to blog, tweet, write their representatives out of passion and conviction. If I’m doing it wrong, I’m willing to learn.
This just happened. At least that’s what I heard. This is 2019. (“Hi, Fig”!)
These are the types of thing you may not be aware you, as a business, giving smokers a healthier option, are up against:
Careen is responding to my “Vape Shop” photo. I imagine she’s being engaged with. Link.
It’s time for vape shops/industry to make a decision as well.
I know, love, and respect some business owners who are fighting by themselves for their customers, and future customers, either through a local or state industry organizations. If you’re not aware, you’re not doing yourselves any favors.
If you are in business giving smokers a healthier alternative to smoking and don’t change the conversation quickly with local, state and national lawmakers…… ahh, who am I to say what you should do. After all, it is your business.
I would read about this (here and here, or listen to this man and act accordingly with any representatives about youth, adult choices less harmful products, and more here:
The Surgeon General wants everyone to nod in agreement on some things. While some of you may, some of you may want to turn your head – as I’ll be taking a different approach for this blog. Let the record show, I’m being *nice.
U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams,(MD) decided to clarify all things youth, e-cigarettes, and ‘epidemic’ on his personal Twitter account.
(All tweets below and his account are found here, or in replies, here)
I found it intriguing (as did others) he would take this route. Of course, a disclaimer on his personal twitter feed states, for safety: “Tweets/RT don’t represent endorsement or my employer.”
There is no valid reason to threaten (adult) access to vaping products. There is no valid reason to threaten small businesses providing smokers the option of less harm.
Why is there is a risk of restricting, taxing, or banning less smoking in any form.
“Applying this proportion to the 2018 data would suggest about 4% of high school students are daily users (this compares to the headline 20.8% use in the past 30-days).”
WARNING: The following could, may, or might contain any or all of the following from Dr. Jerome Adams.
This was before the official announcement on Dec. 18th.
I thought teachers and parents couldn’t… but they’re everywhere… Think of the children™…
“Hard to obtain”
“Hard to use around adults”
“Few youth use any nicotine product (even cigarettes) daily”
( I thought they were “easy to conceal”, hiding them in plain site?)
🎯 Instead, let’s use past 30-day use as a better metric, showing “potential” to teachers and parents. Not only does it sound contrived, inflated potential is also scary.
While you ponder your denial of an epidemic coming up over the course of this blog, bring your nose closer to the screen. Sound out the words. Take your time. I had to!
🎯 Seeming indifference and denial is the biggest threat (not youth use).
Out of context, he’s referring to patches and other methods here.
🎯 1st tweet: Complete denial of the epidemic is the biggest threat to adult access. Complete denial. Huh.
🎯 2nd tweet: 30 day use (remember above) is a definitivemedically defined epidemic.
Again, below the “constant denial” is the biggest threat to less harm.
🎯 The second of the two is one of my favorite tweets. Feelings VS definitions on 30 day use.
Medical Definition of Epidemic:
“The occurrence of more cases of a disease than would be expected in a community or region during a given awareness.. A sudden severe outbreak of a disease such as SARS.” (Link)
The Carnival Barker’s definition of an “epidemic”
🎯 “If folks can’t accept using official medical / health definitions, then we can’t have a real discussion”. “
Medical Definition of Epidemic: The occurrence of more cases of a disease than would be expected in a community or region during a given time period. A sudden severe outbreak of a disease such as SARS. (Link)
🎯 Referring to an “epidemic” is a play on the word as an adjective, not as a noun. The bias of the definition “interpret data accordingly” and “metrics” – referring to 30-day use rather than ‘daily use’, as Clive described above, is propaganda.
Here, the “Primary threat” isn’t “him” or most public health advocates… it’s YOU.
🎯 He’s trying to help.
I’ll let you see the 3rd for yourself. Go on, now. Don’t be afraid.
Here’s sadly what happens when lack of information, education and contrived panics occur.
HE’s not talking about….limiting access.
🎯 Well – then there’s balance. But good luck!
On the third in this set, feelings, (not science or data) are bigger threat than anything he could ever say.
Below, his statement on the first tweet: vaping products work, but lack of balance is coming from “national sentiment”. Wait, sentimentis “an attitude, thought, or judgment prompted by feeling”.
The second, it seems what he posts is what the nation feels, or agrees with.
🎯 (Lots of obvious feelings, *oops I meant “science” in that Google alert on the third.) *I’m being nice.
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🎯 Now, he’s clear. Education and awareness . Can’t do much about the feelings of parents and communities. It’s out of his hands.
2nd: ALL must say and do their part to preserve this option. Huh.
Third, good luck (again!!!)
🎯 This ‘existential threat’ — is because of “continual refusal to acknowledge” thing is really… *getting on my nerves. (*I’m being nice.)
Trying to be funny with a pun. Uh oh, parents and teachers again.
WHAT are YOU doing to help?
🎯 I’m very *relieved the Surgeon General is not basing his findings on feelings. Wait! We can all work together. Uh oh, feelings are in the mix. Then, it’s not a threat. (*I’m being nice.)
Parents and teachers…. a showdown, and needing more acknowledgement is apparent.
🎯 In fact, we all need to work together, or there will be NO OTHER CHOICE from parents, communities, teachers to push for elimination.
Acknowledgement again.
1st tweet below – the reference (out of context) is about approved methods to quit smoking here, but is true for vaping products (and mentioned) as well.
Second – well… *careful what you threaten, above you said “the threat isn’t from Government”. (*I’m being nice.)
On the 1st below, as a consumer, I expect you to do your *job. The fact becomes opinion. (*I’m being nice.)
On the 2nd, the ‘debate’ is contrived by effort, not real interest. Name calling. Appropriate or not, public official: feelings. If feelings are hurt, please see here, or here…
🎯 On the third, it isn’t lessened, the chances of being “heard” remain the same.
🎯 The 1st below – “respectfully you still aren’t listing to (or ignoring)”
2nd: “lessens chances….”
🎯 3rd: I will keep calling a contrived set of monthly numbers a fraudulent and fabricated epidemic.
Finally a bit more of the feelings and name calling – meh. You are a public official.
For “credibility” the Surgeon General states publicly:
🎯 1/3rd youth who vape are vaping marijuana”.
Wait, the monthly ‘epidemic’ numbers are 1/3rd marijuana use? Wait, one-third of the monthly numbers are not “nicotine”? And “advocates” are expected, threatened and almost demanded to “acknowledge concern” and *admit there’s a problem? (*I’m being nice.)
The office of the Surgeon General states “Surgeon General provides Americans with the best scientific information available on how to improve their health and reduce the risk of illness and injury.”
(*Updated* 1/29) In the duties of providing the “best scientific information available”, this is where he doesn’t in his role as Surgeon General.
Stated in one of the tweets above “complete switch to ecigs better than smoking many times”. So far, the Surgeon General has chosen to “dutifully”, unequivocally, with prejudice, advocate the regulation, restriction, tax, and ban of what is a far less harmful product.”
I once admired “authority figures”. I presumed I was always being told the truth by those holding offices, titles, and degrees. Then, by accident, I didn’t smoke anymore. Slowly, over time, I’ve found appearances, power, prestige, fancy titles, and proof by assertion from those in charge – *demand respect rather than earning or deserving it. (*I’m being nice.)
For me to subscribe to anyone coerced into submission, I’ll need to see facts first. In fact, I am concerned and want answers. In fact, I’ve been asking for answers. In fact, if I saw a concern:
In fact, to suggest “vapers” are not concerned or to accuse anyone of “not listening” or ignoring anything is *unprofessional and *childish. (*I’m being nice.)
I’ve been asking, and addressing this concern for some time.
Funny you *mention “indifference”. Along with others you are *berating, I have been “concerned”. (*I’m being nice.)
I asked the UCSF Children’s Medical Center for data.
In June of 2017I inquired with American Academy of Pediatrics President Collen Kraft.
In November 2018, I asked the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP).
For me, to “work” *together”, I’ll need to see more than claims of children consistently being “treated” for “nicotine addiction” and diagnosis of “brain damage” by pediatricians. I don’t find my request wanting case studies, data, progress, outcomes, results “unreasonable”. With a ‘meteoric’ rise, surely, these studies must exist. (*I’m being nice.)
I’ll need to see groups of children stealing patches and gums from Walgreens to get their nicotine. Those can be hidden from adults to satisfy the alleged “uncontrollable craving, seeking, and use of” nicotine in any and all forms.
“You don’t see nicotine junkies breaking into Walgreens to steal nicotine gum” ~ Aaron Biebert
So far, I’ve seen an orchestrated coordinated effort to convince the public of things that are *not true. (*I’m being nice.)
“You should fight for your lives and your health. It is absolutely irresponsible and dangerous behavior to ban e-cigarettes.”
~ Dr. Farsalinos
Added 012/06/2019:
From November 30th: “E-cigs and vaping as harm reduction not inherently a problem (though we need to continue research to ensure overall & max harm reduction)”………..
This is the only tweet I can see offhand worth its salt, and it is on his personal account, not the Surgeon General account.
Fig said it best:
🎯 “I blame Scott Gottleib and Jerome Adams & the multitude of other “leaders” of healthcare for their misinformation campaigns against vapor, for such vile lies that are coming out of our public health agencies. It’s zero wonder why public trust is fading.”
🎯 “Thousands of American vapor businesses are at risk of closing their doors & filing bankruptcy, because of the antics of Scott Gottleib & Jerome Adams.”
“Never stop fighting for what’s right”
~ Agent Ania
“If you see vaping consumer advocates constantly ranting on, it’s because we are trying to stop you lot fucking it up.”
~ Sarah Jakes
There’s only one solution – Unity and aggression.
~ECF, Oliver Kershaw
Let the record show, I’m being nice. Let parents and teachers do their jobs. I’ll suggest you man up and step up, or step aside, Dr. Adams. Otherwise, I’m a couple times behind on telling you to *kiss my ass. (*I’m being nice.)
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“The largest threat to Public Health is an informed consumer.”
Managing nicotine ~ THR4Life ~ Self-determining nicotine consumption ~ I bought my dad a Juul ~ Dr. Gottlieb ~ Poison Control ~ Surgeon General Jerome Adams ~ Voices Of Vapers ~ VapeTithing ~ FDA Comments
Managing nicotine without smoke to save lives now: Evidence for harm minimization
Products that do not burn tobacco are substantially less harmful than deadly smoke.
E-cigarettes do help smoker’s switch or quit smoking especially if used daily.
Youth use of e-cigarettes is experimental and not a gateway to lifetime smoking.
As a member of THR4Life, I, (and the Board of Directors) are excited to announce THR4Life was selected to receive a non-profit advertising campaign for the Detroit Lakes region from Leighton Broadcasting.
Because of the nomination, the national board will receive:
A client discovery session
Free production on up to 3 radio ads
A 13-week, 21 ads per week branding schedule on select Leighton Broadcasting radio stations.
Thank you to all those who voted and nominated THR4life, and thank you to Leighton Broadcasting!
Self-determining nicotine consumption
Maybe patches and gums have never been enough strength? Is it the delivery system?
Stop the neanderthal fear-mongering, Tobacco CONtrol.
A.J. is one of the people I follow on Twitter. Government officials are assumed to have a staffer manning their social media accounts. I – along with many others have tweeted at, to and above the “Dr. Gottlieb” account – thousands of times. This, of all things, got a response from Gottlieb. While we know he now knows there’s a mute button, we’re not sure if he’s utilized it.
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Poison Control
To be clear, the numbers below are *calls* to poison centers, not visits or treatment. Jake Jacobsen (@Jake2001 on Twitter) has been and continues to compile these each month.
“Here are the final numbers for 2018 from the U.S. American Association of Poison Control Centers. (AAPCC) Again, common household products continue to be much more prevalent.” – Jake
To my knowledge, no “epidemic” or crisis has been issued or discussed for laundry pods or hand sanitzer. Huh.
Surgeon General
The Surgeon General has decided to take matters to his own personal twitter account to discuss e-cigarette use and ‘epidemic’ proportions of said use in youth. This seems to take a bit of heat of Dr. Gottlieb directly (on purpose?) – and of course, there is a disclaimer on the account: “Tweets/RT don’t represent endorsement or my employer.”
I, among others, have decided to take him to task. “Past month” use is not equal to “daily use” and therefore does not constitute any meaning of ‘epidemic’.
Alcohol is 30.20% for “past month” use. Quite high! On the surface, I would call that a huge concern.
The Surgeon General conveniently displays data. No one has uttered a word of an epidemic of alcohol use.
Daily use of alcohol is significantly lower, reported at 1.20%. That’s an extremely dramatic drop in what on the surface looks like a very high and concerning number for “use”.
The only conclusion is for me, they didn’t ask – or report it – on purpose. If it were truly and epidemic, certainly daily use would be the most intriguing and telling figure for what would be an “epidemic” and the most important questionasked.
Author note: In or out of context, he’s sharing “national sentiment” and lack of balance.
His job description as Surgeon General is to provide “Americans with the best scientific information available on how to improve their health and reduce the risk of illness and injury.”
If you’re interested, you can also see what Dr. Adams has said in his non-representation of his employer about “feelings” and 30-day-use here.
I call bullshit, Dr. Adams. Fraud, corruption and conflict comes to mind. Those are my feelings. I suppose that’s what feelings are for. Imagine my feelings when I found while in your role as Indiana State Health Commissioner – overseeing Indiana’s Tobacco Prevention and Cessation Commission – you owned(or still own?)stock in tobacco companies.
Huh.
Voices of Vapers
Speaking of A.J…. he’s joined Lindsey Stroud!
In this episode of Voices of Vapers, A.J. Moll, Executive Director of Missouri Smoke Free talks about his efforts in Missouri, his extensive research on tobacco harm reduction, and the recent Twitter antics from U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams.
The Food and Drug Administration is requesting comments for the “potential role of drug therapies to support youth e-cigarette cessation”.
Don’t let my editorial comments fool you, but remember, the standard and idiotic blanket statement of nicotine being “more addictive than heroin or cocaine” rings loudest in my ear.
This comment from you they seek, is for children. To have nicotine therapy.
They’ve lost their mindsrevenue. Need to build that back up.
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Nicorette CQ
Habitrol
Nicotrol NS
Nicotrol Inhaler
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Zyban (buprofin)
The public hearing will be held on January 18, 2019, from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. The public hearing may be extended or may end early depending on the level of public participation. Persons seeking to present at the public hearing must register by January 8, 2019. Persons seeking to speak at the public hearing must register by January 15, 2019. Persons seeking to attend, but not present at, the public hearing must register by January 15, 2019. Section III provides attendance and registration information.
Electronic or written comments will be accepted after the public hearing until February 1, 2019.
Note: Because I’ve seen way to many negative entries in these in the past, my strong suggestion is for everyone to make their comment(s), and make them clear – and polite.
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“The largest threat to Public Health is an informed consumer.”
The “Public Health” Industrial-Complex Behind the Anti-Vaping Push ~ Consumer Engagement for GFN2019 ~ Stevens Point leaders update e-cig ordinance ~ TCAPS Will Install Vape Detectors in Middle, High Schools ~ Altria board approves $13 billion investment in e-cigarette company Juul ~ We Need to Reduce the Harms of Draconian Tobacco Policies ~ Federal Officials Obsessed By Teen Vaping, But Ignore Teen Drinking and Toking ~ Before you go
The “Public Health” Industrial-Complex Behind the Anti-Vaping Push
Lobbying, restrictions, coordination, corruption, hysteria… sounds like a coup to me.
“The anti-vaping push from public health organizations is coordinated, well-funded, and tied to powerful entities in government and corporate America. According to federal data, however, there is extremely limited evidence of any ‘epidemic’.”
“The theme for GFN2019 will be “It’s time to talk about nicotine” and it is vital that the people who use safer nicotine products are at the heart of that conversation.
The GFN organisers are keen to give an even higher profile to consumers and consumer organisations than in previous years and I have been asked to help with that.”
The article states city leaders voted across the board to “make it more difficult to get e-cigarettes in the hands of teens.“
Now – it’s a fifty-dollar fine and possibly a court appearance if a minor is caught with one. Among other anomalies in the article (my bold/underlining for emphasis):
“Officers in Stevens Point previously had to prove if thecigarette had nicotine in it but it wasn’t possible to test in the field.”
Unsurprisingly, it doesn’t mention fines or consequences for cigarettes or theSynar Amendment.
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TCAPS Will Install Vape Detectors in Middle, High Schools
Read this sentence, a quote from the video:
“Our goal here is to do more of a deterrent…not necessarily catch students…but deter students”
Now – if you must read it again…
I for one can’t imagine any kid figuring out how to get around this… and for the record, were there or will there also be “smoke” detectors?
We Need to Reduce the Harms of Draconian Tobacco Policies
Nothing says “tell people what to do” more than telling people what to do and how not to do it – and getting paid to do so from those very people.
See, discrimination, embarrasment, fines, taxes, custody battles, imprisonment, executions… well, any means necessary to get people to do what you want them to do are clearly the best…
Wait a minute…
Via the well respected Marewa Glover, down the rabbit hole you go.
He should be immediately fired and Gottlieb, who was with him at this event, should be as well. #FIRESG
Before you go:
Innovation
An in-depth look from Foundation for a Smoke-Free World, this shows the views of what’s working, what’s not – in the Foundation’s “2018 State of Smoking Survey”.
It’s survey time for U.S. consumers. The largest consumer group in the United States, CASAA, and EcigIntelligence have teamed up once again for you (and all your friends who use e-cigarettes) to take and share the survey. I completed it in approximately 10 minutes.
Data and research are important.
Challenges in the United States are far from over. Your voice counts. As a consumer, your data is both necessary and imperative. Information obtained from surveys can be (and are) used by consumer and trade groups to inform our local, state and national legislators, regulators, media, research, along with public health officials and importantly, other consumers are able to consider making an informed choice to switch to a less harmful alternative.
A word from Alex Clark:
“Once again, CASAA is pleased to share the annual ECig Intelligence consumer survey with our members. As you may remember from previous years, CASAA works cooperatively with ECI to develop survey questions that aid us in our advocacy efforts and help take the pulse of the vaping community.
Your participation in this survey will help inform regulators, advocates, and commentators as we all work to build policies that benefit consumers.”
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Scott Gottlieb: JUUL is Now Your Bitch ~ FOIA Request for Nicotine Statements… ~ Are The Kids Alright? ~ The “Winston Man”: A Transition from Cigarettes’ Model to Vaping Advocate ~ Should flavours be banned in cigarettes and e-cigarettes? ~ More than 50 tickets issued for underage vaping ~ Tobacco Control Is Failing! ~ Antivaping Hysteria Is Unhealthy ~ The Last and Only Solace ~ Stossel: Let Them Vape ~ “National Drug Threat Assessment” ~ Vaping to smoking initiation among US youth and young adults: a reality check ~ RODENTS! ~ Free Child Labor ~ More Junk Studies
If Gottlieb was intending swift and STRINGENT ENFORCEMENT – and fines to exceed these – and I mean extreme fines – for selling to minors – for ANY counter sales – vape shops or otherwise, including losing their licences – via the Synar Amendment – changing it to 95% to “qualify for funding’ rather than the EXTREMELY lenient and ‘acceptable’ 80%, I’d almost start respecting efforts similar to these from Dr. Gottlieb.
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Of the few reporters I admire, John Stossel is one. In an attempt to get some attention, I’d once tweeted to him about A Billion Lives here and asked him to talk with David Goerlitz here.
I was pleasantly surprised to see this balanced piece, especially with Michelle Minton.
For something compared as “addictive as cocaine or heroin”, I am VERY disappointed not to find evidence of nicotine gangs, cartels, trafficking, abuse or threats and specifically “epidemics” listed on the just-released “National Drug Threat Assessment”.
It was pointed out on Twitter that Kratom was not on the list.
Vaping to smoking initiation among US youth and young adults: a reality check
I can’t tell if this got released “too early”, too quick, or dammit, there just isn’t a gateway despite Gottlieb’s determination of creating, nurturing and finally revealing an “epidemic”. Certainly, there is no gateway.
With the “Great American Smokeout” behind us, Tobacco Free Indiana took the opportunity to raise hope Indiana legislators will increase the state’s cigarette tax by $2 a pack.
How’d they do it? Well, adults in charge put forty-five children “on their hands and knees” to pick up cigarette butts. That’s 45 hours of free child labor.
“Think of the children™.” Will they also have those children “volunteer” to pick up used condoms and needles to raise awareness of safe sex and drugs?
All in the name of funding.
Free child labor.
Isn’t that nice.
Pisses me off.
“… more importantly, the clean-up was a good way to give back”.
Dear Family, Friends, Parents, Educators and Medical Professionals:
I consider you all intelligent and capable of thinking for yourselves. Each of you have the power of many that I cannot have alone. I consider the depth and importance you hold with your personal and professional lives. I also consider that YOU have a responsibility, response, and an ability – with the vast outreach you have – to make a difference. I’m going with the theory that we’re all only within “six degrees of separation”.
I understand in order to ask for support, you need facts.
Years ago, Dad had a motto for his business. “Know for a fact”. I’ve adopted that for this very personal message. I hope to briefly educate and enlighten you in the following few minutes of your our lives.
Pardon The Intrusion
I do not like my family and friends being misinformedlied to.
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has made what I normally kick, scream and rant about on my Twitter account, my other Facebook page, and here on my blog, much, MUCH more personal. It’s about informed public consumer choices. It’s about rights. It is about you.
“When tobacco use decreases, less smoking occurs.”
Those Damn Kids
Are you a parent? I’ll let you decide if trusted “non-profit” groups like “Tobacco-Free Kids” (created by Johnson & Johnson, makers of smoking “cessation” products and then secretly negotiated with tobacco giant Philip Morris) are marketing cigarettes and e-cigarettes to children here. Or trustworthy. (I’ll wait.)
Remember when the public health community and media claimed e-cigarettes were a “gateway” TO smoking? Huh.
Think about the statement Dr. Gottlieb has made about “marketing to children”. Are you able to exercise your parenting skills? Dr. Scott Gottlieb of the FDA doesn’t think so. Like cigarettes, the law states anyone underage (18 or 21) cannot purchase these NON-tobacco products legally.
What you aren’t being told is these restrictions could lead teenagers back to smoking. The FDA wants to convince the world (whether they smoke or not) using rhetoric, proof by assertion, pseudoscience sound bytes and the ever-popular “Think of the children™ that e-cigarettes are “just as dangerous” as smoking. They’re not. While I’ll try not to bore you, there is data, science and research (and links within this blog). There is no doubt.
Pfizer, maker of the “FDA Approved” drug Chantix (once black-boxed due to thousands of attempted and over 500 suicides ) was given to “adolescents” in the United States ages 12-16. They failed.
The struggle is real
Why aren’t “approved” nicotine patches and gums being passed out to teens like candy? I’m saying, and I’ll keep saying it: “If “children” are already smoking, they’re smokers regardless of age.” I’ll direct you to Shiela Vakharia’s statement below.
Unpopular opinion: I am totally fine with vaping among teens. Nicotine is a performance-enhancer (like caffeine in many ways) and the fewer teens smoking cigarettes, the better for public health. They are practicing #harmreduction.
If you’re a smoker, I’m not telling you to stop smoking. (Smokers can go here.) Because vaping businesses are no longer allowed to tell you, I’m telling you e-cigarettes are a safer, healthier, smoke-free choice. It is an alternative for smokers who want to quit. Nothing more, nothing less. I’m telling you the FDA is trying to take away a choice that has worked for millions. A choice that works. This choice is being threatened.
I was told “stop smoking” since I was old enough to get caught smoking! I was told it was “nicotine“. It’s not. Have you ever caught a child stealing nicotine patches to feed their “addiction”?
It wasn’t so easy. “Government approved” patches and gums didn’t work for me, but I didn’t know why. I never thought to ask about the 93% failure rates. I was told it was willpower. It’s not. I was told I wasn’t trying hard enough. I wasn’t, but I didn’t know smokers average 30 attempts before they quit. I was told a lot of things. I’ve been lied to before, but not to this grand scale. They call it a sin tax. They’re addicted to taxing smokers.
I didn’t realize the discrimination and hatred against smokers is completely perpetuated by money. To call the anti-smoking movement “brainwashing” is an understatement. It is professional bullying. I didn’t realize it was a billion dollar industry – funded BY smoking. If this scale of hate was directed at any other group, there would be riots in the streets. Leave smokers alone.
Can you imagine
FDA will always promote science based decision making…”
~Dr. Scott Gottlieb
Cognitive dissonance is the mental discomfort experienced by a person who simultaneously holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values.
Here’s Dr. Gottlieb and his sidekick Mitch “Zippy” Zeller – of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration exerting their arrogance mental “cognitive dissonance” disorder.
In the process of regulation, restrictions, taxes and bans, Dr. Gottlieb is going to encumber 10 Million smokers, and millions more who may choose to purchase them as an alternative to smoking based on “attitudes, beliefs and intentions“.
The Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration…. what?
Dr. GottLIEb feels the need to use the word “convincingly”.
I’ve got another word: Manipulation.
Added November 8th, 2018:
So much for an “epidemic” via the retail sector.
“During this past summer, 96.7% of the retailers passed FDA-sponsored compliance checks by not selling an e-cigarette to an underage youth.”
As a “professional smoker” for about 35 years, I found, by accident, an amazing product. An e-cigarette. Within 48 hours, it worked. It also worked for Janice. It has worked for some of you reading this, my family and friends. Sometimes it doesn’t. One son (23) does both and the other (20) still chooses to smoke.
For a while… I walked around happy I wasn’t smoking. My cough – a constant companion most of my life, had abandoned me in about a week. I was breathing better and felt better. I thought – well, it can’t be worse than smoking. I was both uncaring and blind to the issues and the controversy surrounding “e-cigarettes”. On the news, as you’ve all seen, I saw (a) report of “dangers” and I thought, no, you bastards – you are lying. You’re not telling the whole story.
On a cold winter night, I found David Goerlitz’ blog. He is the “Former Winston man”. In his blog, he explains the corruption from ANTI-tobacco groups (Body Parts™ groups – Heart, Lung, Cancer Associations) he WORKED for. These “non-profits” are funded by smoking. David FIRED me UP.
I read anything and everything. I started a blog. I joined Twitter. (Turns out, scientists, researchers and experts who don’t lie are real and on Twitter.) I joined Facebook groups to learn more.
Dave fired me up. At that point, I was on a mission to change the world. Without knowing better – within days – on December 17th, 2014 – I created a survey to show what others like me already knew to show YOU and others – our experiences… 7,238 people took it around the world. Around the world. Proudly, It’s been used and quoted in a few places. My mission for that survey was to tell other smokers there is another option. A place they could read about what others doing it – said. Reducing or eliminating asthma medications, lower blood pressure – and much, much more.
I found quickly – the experts, media, and (no surprise) government do not care about the truth. They don’t care about facts. Wait. They care about manipulating the facts. I don’t like you not knowing for a fact.
“The Real Cost”
Fear is a lack of knowledge. Knowledge is power.
The Food and Drug Administration will be spending money placing propaganda in your minds called “The Real Cost“. They” want to regulate, restrict, tax and ban a choice by using “children” as a ploy.
Here’s where you come in. I’d like you to consider how you can help, and it won’t cost you a dime. I’m asking you to stand up. Raise your hand. Question those in authority. Engage. If you have doubts, questions, concerns, thoughts… ask me. If you have friends, colleagues, associates, family, medical professionals… direct them to me. If I do not know the answer, I’ll ask someone else.
Please consider a *free* membership by joining the consumer group CASAA.
They released this comprehensive explanation today:
“We believe that even if youth use were increasing, it is still a public health benefit – provided that use of smoking products continues to fall.”
It isn’t just me. Oliver Kershaw also explains it here:
“Treating the symptom, not the cause – is never an effective outcome.”
You are my friends and family. I wouldn’t want you thinking funding is the root of the created opioid epidemic, either.
Turns out, in my mission to change the world, the world has changed me.
Each of you have the power of many that I cannot have alone. I consider you all intelligent and able to think for yourselves, and I thank you for your time.
This, from Diane Caruana – goes right along with what I said above.
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“The largest threat to Public Health is an informed consumer.”
FDA Hands Vaping a Blow, Sends Tobacco a Save ~ FDA Ought to Reconsider Stance on Youth Vaping ~ Scott Gottlieb ~ Vaping, Vultures and Cars ~ Steps to address a non-existent problem ~ All people like better products. Teenagers are people ~ Vapor Technology Association (VTA) Response ~ American Vaping Association (AVA) Response ~ Fontem Ventures respond to FDA statement ~ Tobacco Stocks ~ Survey ~ Hand Check
Make no mistake, Dr. Gottlieb has threatened consumers who have found a healthier, smoke-free, safer alternative to smoking.
Consumers, and the entire industry ARE at risk.
Along with “experts” in public health, politicians, “health” groups and media, Tobacco-Free Kids has manipulated the public campaign (and the market) for months.
Dr. Gottlieb finally responded in their favor by saying “The FDA has unpublished preliminarydata that shows a 75 percent increase in e-cigarette use among high school students this year compared with 2017″ and threatening (primarily) Vuse, Blu, JUUL, MarkTen XL, and Logic.
These brands specifically are – evidently – keeping “youth” from smoking cigarettes.
FDA Hands Vaping a Blow, Sends Tobacco a Save
Consumer group Tobacco Harm Reduction 4 Life is questioning the integrity of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s Dr. Gottleib – or lack thereof. Here is that respons to Dr. Gottlieb’s ultimatum.
(Full disclosure: I am a member of the board of THR4Life.)
We’re committed to our comprehensive plan on nicotine and tobacco regulation, but we see clear signs that youth e-cigarette use has reached an epidemic proportion. And we must adjust certain aspects of our strategy to stem this clear and present danger: https://t.co/C5i0c22sRcpic.twitter.com/JXScdU32DA
“Unfortunately, FDA and Commissioner Gottlieb took a giant step backwards against the best interest of public health. By threatening an industry – and technology that millions of adult smokers are successfully using to reduce or quit smoking deadly cigarettes–FDA is venturing into dangerous territory.”
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