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Nannies: Butt OUT of nicotine, kratom use

I must admit to having an “addiction to clickbaitable” articles on nicotine. In any given week, they seem to find me as if I had a dealer (Skip) who likes to bring them share them with me.

That said, another crossed my eye this morning and pissed me off.

So with that, here we are.


No bias here.

The “article” quoting an evidently “highly qualified” optometrist… an EYE doctor, titled “Butt in: Ask patients about nicotine use”.

It opens with

“A new study links the use of electronic cigarettes (vaping) among teenagers to more vaping and cigarette smoking”

In the first two paragraphs, the words “irritant” “risk” and “cause” accompany “teenagers” and “students”.

I left comments on the article (many won’t even allow comments any more) and at the moment, as usual, they are not showing up or deleted.

I didn’t see an author on that article. Enough of that idiotic twit or twits.


Kratom

I don’t normally sway from my chosen topic of e-cigs – but I will today.

While speaking recently about nicotine (use, “addiction”) to a relative (a licenced Arborist), I learned in about 20 minutes what I needed to “know” about kratom.

I’d never heard of kratom. I didn’t know it existed and know next to nothing about it.

Within that conversation, I looked kratom up. Imagine my surprise when I see testimonials eerily similar to what e-cigarette users are saying about nicotine.


Funding a nanny state

The government does not like consumer movements interrupting their war on nicotine. Examples of misconduct are here, another great explanation (thanks Ed!) is here.


The government does not like consumer movements interrupting their “war” on opioid addiction and “treatment”, so they are discouraging kratom use.


You can find out more about kratom here: americankratom.org.


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Butt Out

I will believe one consumer as an “anecdote” before the pharmaceutical funded FDA says a word.

BUTT OUT of what you pretend you do not understand, you irritating twits. STOP twisting the drug company sponsored campaigns to discourage or erraticate what consumers know by disguising it with “regulations”.

I, for one, am tired of reading contrived “expert” opinions. I, for one, am tired of my government ignoring the consumer voice.




Here is one consumer I adore:

“If you see vaping consumer advocates constantly ranting on, it’s because we are trying to stop you lot fucking it up”.

That quote comes from this video below.

Please, get your favorite beverage and take the 20 minutes to listen to Sarah Jakes.

23 Sarah Jakes from The E-Cigarette Summit on Vimeo.


 

Nicotine is covered herehere, here, and of course the results of my challenge, here.


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Taking Chances with Chantix or Zyban to Quit Smoking

ZybanDoctor’s orders: take your medicine, take your chances. Zyban and Chantix are government approved prescribed medications to allegedly help smokers stop smoking.

Extremely important information from consumers experiencing side-effects from Zyban and Chantix was collected in this survey. Detrimental effects of these medications were reported and were a huge topic in the comments .


In question # 10 of the Vaping Truth Survey, it was asked
“What other methods did you try to stop smoking before you stopped with vaping”.

Dangers, side effects, issues with these approved prescription drugs mixing with others are just a few of the reasons they cannot be used effectively as a way to stop smoking according to experience from others.

Searching on the results JUST where it was mentioned in the comments for Chantix & Zyban, here is what you said (no edits):



Chantix & Zyban



1. Chantix send me into depression.. Awful effect for me

2. The patch caused skin irritation and nughtmares. The gum caused digestive issues. Cold turkey worked for a short time because I was pregnant. And Chantix caused horrible nausea and nightmares.

3. Chantix was awful. It messed with how I felt and caused anxiety. Gum def didn’t work. Patch burned my skin, gave me super weird dreams. Vaping, has had no negative side effects.

4. SEVERELY allergic to Chantix Few times patch worked for a short time ONLY vaping has stopped and kept me stopped from smoking.

5. My mother has tried everything listed and this year suffered a DVT. She took both Zyban and Chantix. Zyban almost worked, and then she got sick from it. Chantix made her hallucinate, and have violent night terrors, having never had any of those symptoms ever before in her life. She’s still suffering some side effects a year plus after going off the Chantix. She quit smoking with vaping, going from a pack a day to zero, as suggested by her doctor, to save her life. Since quitting she’s gone off her high blood pressure medication and lost weight.

6. nothing works as well as vaping sorry chantix has too many horrible side effects
7. I didn’t try chantix because of the serious side effects

8. Chantix Makes you nuts. It should be taken off the market

9. Nothing worked. Chantix made me want to kill myself. I daydreamed about the ways I would do it. Pharmaceuticals are not the way to go.

10. none worked and Chantix had too many side effects
11. Chantix made me irritable and mean. Cold turkey I didn’t have enough self control for. The lozenges and gum did not help with the hand to mouth feel of smoking so it wasn’t good enough either.

12. You couldn’t get me to take Chantix or Zyban at any price.

13. Chantix (prescription) made me an absolute nut, patch and inhaler didn’t work for more than a month (I would go right back to it), and cold turkey didn’t work at all.

14. Chantix gave me extreme nightmares and very “weird” thoughts during the day….

15. I can’t take drugs like Chantix or Zyban, because I am on psychiatric medications which will be negatively affected by Chantix or Zyban.

16. These items are just plain crap…don’t work. Chantix drove me crazy, in a fog with Hypnosis, still smoked with the patch, lit a smoke after chewing the gum.

17. All hopeless -‘Champix” put me in hospital with bleeding from the bowel, patches wouldn’t stick even with tape wrapped around my arm over the patch, gums and books useless, cold turkey needs too much will power when you are an addict.

18. Tried Chantix but eventually went back to cigarettes

19. Neither medications like Chantix or patches/gums worked in my case. The withdrawal syndrome was too strong or they had some unexpected secondary effects.

20. Chantix kills…or helps you kill yourself at a very high cost $

21. I stopped short of Chantix as my brother used it to stop smoking and suicided within three months.

22. Am unable to take any prescribed pills like Chantix or Zyban, so tried the patch and gum but found myself wanting a cigarette at the same time.

23. Patch was not effective. I quit smocking 2 times for 1 years with champix (french version of chantix), but 2 times I get back to smock after ~1 year

24. I actually got the Chantix script from my doctor and got it filled but in the end, I was too terrified to take it, after researching it and reading about all the suicides, etc. It went down the toilet. Vaping is MUCH MUCH SAFER.

25. That last resort was Chantix and Zyban. It caused me to hallucinate. I gave the packets back to my doctor. As with patches, no effect except dizziness, rash on my skin, and I could even have one patch on each arm and smoke at the same time. I tired the Allan Carr method, his book is a con inmy opinion, it should be banned !

26. none worked, also Chantix, Zyban terrible side affects, all other did not work.

27. I have quit before successfully with chantix started again here and there with a smoking coworker or while fishing

28. Chantix/Champix gave me other, and far worse, problems than smoking. Severe depression is a bitch!

29. Chantix actually put me in a mental ward

30. I refused to try Chantix because my Brother in Law almost commited suicide while taking Chantix! Way too many side effects

31. My last attempt before rediscovering vaping was another trial with chantix along side of recovering from larengeal surgery because of a cancer scare. I lasted about one month. I would sa I have been desperate to quit for the last 15 years, but none of those options made it possible for me until I picked up my e-cig.

32. People have killed themselves while on Chantix. It made my mental state worse, giving terrible dreams & thoughts. Patches made my arm or wherever placed ache & hurt badly. Gum is gross & just doesn’t even do anything for me

33. None of them worked like vaping did. Especially not having to deal with side effects that Chantix gave me.

34. Chantix is evil

35. After one week on chantix I got depressed and was told by the doctor to stop using it as people have committed suicide on it. Other nrt either tasted horrible or made me itch or hurt my throat. After having acupuncture I left the building and had a fag. Self help books didnt teach me anything i didn’t already know. telling smokers that they will die won’t help anybody.

36. Chantix can help, it’s the best method after vaping

37. They lied about Chantix. I will not recommend this product to anyone.

38. Chantix helped me to quit for two years. Bad idea – while taking chantix i got palpitations, vertigo feelings and blurred vision. Terrible stuff.

39. Chantix is quite literally a nightmare.

40. Chantix/Champix made me want to finish myself..

41. patch gave me skin issues and bad dreams, cold turkey works as long as you don’t get stressed out and use the stress as an excuse to start smoking again.. and the chantix made me want to cut my own throat and, scary nightmares.

42. More scared of another round of Chantix (Champix) than dying of cigarettes!

43. I believe that both Zyban and Chantix ( Champix) should be banned because of heir side effects.

44. I am allergic to corn and have celiac as well as panic disorder. NO doctor would ever even think of giving me Chantix. NO doctor wanted me to quit smoking either. It was horrific on my pain levels and threw me into a depression. I am also allergic to adhesive so no patches. No gum or anything because of the corn. Cold turkey would have killed me.

45. Chantix made me crazy and un-well!

46. chantix zyban was a project from my previous workprovider (FORD), miserably failed. Cold turkey, i dont got a backbone for that. Patch and gums just dont do it for me at all.

47. I used champix and I regret using it. I have had stomach problems ever since. I think it did something to either the lining of my stomach or changed the chemical balance somehow? I quit on it, but it made me so very sick using it. As soon as I was off the “drug” I went back to smoking within days both times.

48. Chantix had side effects and once I went off the med the desire to smoke came right back.

49. The patch resulted in a 5 week cessation, with cravings remaining. Cold turkey lasted only hours. I wanted to try Chantix or Zyban, but I have epilepsy and so both drugs are contraindicated.

50. I tried chantix twice

51. The patch irritated my skin. Nic gum tastes like crap. Tried Chantix and it gave me nightmares. Vaping is the only thing that worked for me.

52. doctor would not give me chantix because of my health problems
53. hypnosis wasn’t available in my backwoods town. I did have lazer therapy as well but it lasted less than a week. Chantix made me have really dark thoughts so I had to get off of it.

54. Alan Carr helped for a while, and another book. Patches were irritating to my skin and didn’t work. I find chewing gum in public as offensive as some people find smoking! Even the packaging of Chantix warns that it could turn me into a ticking bomb, and I thought it would be irresponsible of me to take it.

55. I just can’t quit cold turkey. (I actually enjoy smoking). The patch makes me go numb and tingly where it’s applied, i.e.: on my arm, my arm will go numb and tingly. I can’t chew gum and the inhaler made me vomit. Accupunture worked for about a week (I think it was a placebo effect) and self help books haven’t helped. Drugs are not an option for me. I have suicidal thoughts on Zyban and on Chantix I was vomitting serverly. Having an eating disorder I can’t stay on Chantix. I lost over 8lbs in the week I was on it. Very dangerous for me.

56. Chantix was the absolute worst thing I ever did the night mares were horrible I felt awful from it. I did try everything first!

57. Chantix made me sick.

58. None of them work! Cold Turkey worked for a day max. Self help books seem superficial. Chantix made me all kinds of crazy and depressed. The gum is actually not bad but very expensive and not very safe. The patch did nothing for me other than make me more addicted because I would crave the nicotine and put on a patch but still needed that oral fixation and ended up smoking sometimes.

59. suicidal on Chantix

60. You name it I tried it. I wasn’t allowed to try Chantix or Zyban though because I am bi-polar and it would have interfered with my medication.

61. Chantix drove me nuts…can’t believe the FDA approved that one. Hypnosis made me feel like everything was in slow motion. Patches and gum did nothing for the cravings.

62. I tried everything I was able to when my husband was alive because he was a non-smoker and hated me smoking. The longest period I was able to remain smoke-free was cold-turkey (5 days). I could not use gum or lozenges after a while due to side-effects and my doctor refused to prescribe Chantix or Zyban as he sees them as too dangerous. Eventually I gave up giving up as I always failed and I enjoyed smoking.

63. I tried all these and not one even came close to me putting down my cigarettes I was just adding more nicotine to my habit because I still smoked while using them. Chantix/Zyban are really scary they can make you feel agitated and depressed

64. The patch and gum made me feel ill. Cold turkey made me so irritable, family was begging for me to smoke to calm down. Chantix gave me horrible nightmares, depression and generally felt like crap.

65. I was trying…my doc would not prescribe Chantix

66. Chantix almost killed me .Yet it’s still on the market after 700 deaths.

67. My doctor suggested Chantix a few years ago, but he should have known better because I’m bipolar and schizophrenic. Had I taken Chantix, it would have worked: I WOULD BE DEAD. Attempts to quit cold turkey were viciously repetitive failures. Vaping was the only thing that worked, and with immediate success. It was my miracle, my second chance at life.

68. Tried Chantix twice, gum twice, Zyban twice, patch once and cold turkey once over the course of about 15 years.

69. None of these methods worked. Patches and smoking don’t mix. I was taken off Chantix after three days; by my doctor, because of homicidal thoughts. He was freaked.

70. Zyban caused me to have a nervous breakdown and miss 6 months of work

71. Lozenges actually DID work; I did not smoke while I was using them. But my lozenge habit got more expensive than my cigarette habit! (and that’s expensive!) and even with the lozenges, I eventually went back to smoking. The Zyban worked as long as I kept taking it. But who wants to be on pills for the rest of their life? (and have to go to the doctor every month for a refill scrip?)

72. Only Zyban workt, when i stopt after 3 months i went back smoking!

73. Did successfully stop using Zyban, but started socially smoking amazing after about 3 years of non smoking. This did lead to starting smoking again after about 3-4 months of smoking only one evening a week.

74. Zyban left me like a vegetable – ready to commit suicide. My GP hasn’t prescribed the drug, after he saw what Zyban did to me and my mental health.

75. Zyban was very effective, but I became too nervous…said my wife. It holded 20 mounths without smoking.



You can see here what the FDA charts with all “approved” methods here:

Table Data: FDA Approved Drug


You can find the final analysis of the Vaping Truth Survey here.



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Nicotine Reduction Therapy, What’s really safe? The Truth & Perspective on the Gum, Patch & Drugs Over E-Cigs.

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Nicotine Reduction Therapy, A new perspective for the health community. Some, as seen below, cannot use certain methods. Just because they are approved, doesn’t mean there aren’t issues with the end user. It doesn’t mean they are safe.


These people went to these methods, these lengths as a way to stop smoking and these are their words for “approved” methods and voice some extremely valid reasons they did not work. These comments show without doubt or need of “science” that there IS a better and more effective alternative, vaping.

( Comments from around the world, unedited, from the Vaping Truth Survey)


The patch caused skin irritation and nughtmares. The gum caused digestive issues. Cold turkey worked for a short time because I was pregnant. And Chantix caused horrible nausea and nightmares.

• Chantix was awful. It messed with how I felt and caused anxiety. Gum def didn’t work. Patch burned my skin, gave me super weird dreams. Vaping, has had no negative side effects.

• I didn’t try acupuncture but I did try auriculotherapy. Zyban worked the best, but after 18 months quit I started again and was up to a pack-a-day again within three days… as if I’d never quit! None of the other methods I tried worked for more than a few days at most. You have to want to quit SO badly and have some serious willpower and motivation… otherwise, nothing will be effective. Vaping replaces not only the nicotine, but the hand-to-mouth action. That was critical to my success.

• Nothing satisfied me like vaping does. Vaping satisfies all the urges. My doctor did not recommend me quitting smoking as I was going through a lot and he felt it would push me over the edge
• Chantix made me irritable and mean. Cold turkey I didn’t have enough self control for. The lozenges and gum did not help with the hand to mouth feel of smoking so it wasn’t good enough either.

• Chantix (prescription) made me an absolute nut, patch and inhaler didn’t work for more than a month (I would go right back to it), and cold turkey didn’t work at all.

• 1 week was the longest I could quit with existing legacy methods, they just don’t work. Quitting by using a vape device was much easier by comparison.

• nothing worked for me. i believe this is down to the fact that with patches, for example, they give you a 24hr hit of nicotine, and when you remove them you still crave the nicotine, so go slowly back to gaining your hit, be that via smoking or another method.

• As soon as you stop taking the drugs, you want a smoke, the gum tastes horrible and doesn’t work worth a darn, and cold turkey is really hard without support. Using an ecig replaced the action of puffing on a smoke so the psychological affect of puffing on an ecig completely calms the users cravings without the nasty chemicals and tar
• I wouldn’t touch Champix or Zyban as many suicides have been attributed to them.

• Neither medications like Chantix or patches/gums worked in my case. The withdrawal syndrome was too strong or they had some unexpected secondary effects.

• You name it I’ve probably tried it. (The Dr’s wouldn’t let me try the drugs because of the medications I have to take already.) Nothing worked, that monkey was always on my back saying “I want a real cigarette”. Vaping has given me a freedom I never thought was possible. The monkey is dead and I am truly free.
• Vaping is not a smoking-cessation method for me. I tried it and immediately realised this was BETTER than smoking – without the health risks and the guilt. I enjoy my nicotine as I enjoy my alcohol and caffeine. I have no intention of giving up vaping any more than I intend to give up beer or coffee.

• That last resort was Chantix and Zyban. It caused me to hallucinate. I gave the packets back to my doctor. As with patches, no effect except dizziness, rash on my skin, and I could even have one patch on each arm and smoke at the same time. I tired the Allan Carr method, his book is a con inmy opinion, it should be banned !
• Patches – gave me nightmares, Inhaler – tasted AWFUL, Zyban – I had this twice, both times it worked for about 4 months and then I returned to smoking, Champix – also had this twice, made me feel very sick both times, didn’t finish either course due to making me feel so unwell. Could Turkey – managed about 6 hours. Acupuncture – price prohibitive and didn’t work at all

• I was in the car. still in the hypnotist’s parking lot. decided to test out how much I DIDN’T want a cigarette and how yucky it would taste. Lit it up and had no difference. Wasted $30 and smoked all the way home!

• My last attempt before rediscovering vaping was another trial with chantix along side of recovering from larengeal surgery because of a cancer scare. I lasted about one month. I would sa I have been desperate to quit for the last 15 years, but none of those options made it possible for me until I picked up my e-cig.

• After one week on chantix I got depressed and was told by the doctor to stop using it as people have committed suicide on it. Other nrt either tasted horrible or made me itch or hurt my throat. After having acupuncture I left the building and had a fag. Self help books didnt teach me anything i didn’t already know. telling smokers that they will die won’t help anybody.

• I can’t try the prescriptions as I have a history of depression. Nothing else touched the cravings. Vaping the right nic strength totally kills the cravings. I actually prefer vaping over smoking because of the taste and smell and it works! No wicked witch from the west! 🙂

• Champix (as its called in Canada) made me terribly ill. I did quit smoking for the 5 weeks I was on Champix but because I felt so sick, I realized that this wasn’t the way to quit. I started smoking again and felt better. Pharmaceuticals are not the answer for smoking cessation.

• I nursed my mother through lung cancer until her death in 2000, then 5 years later went through it all again with my sister. Both were long term heavy smokers like me, so I had every incentive to quit. Believe me I tried – countless times using every known aid. Nothing worked for very long so I made my peace with it and quit quitting. Then I was introduced to vaping and decided to try it for one week to see if it might help me to cut down. I never smoked again. I quit without even trying.



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Here is where I am going to turn the tables a bit on misinformation. Here is where I call one of you alleged professionals OUT.

Schoolyard bullying if you want to call it that, but you have media at your disposal, I simply have a blog. Call it what you will.

Some medical experts are told to tell patients to “use these approved methods” by SPONSORS. Perks, bonuses. Prestige. Looking good on television is not saving lives. If you are one of those “experts”, and this stings, then you need to re-evaluate your profession and seek help, knowledge and further educate yourself.

You assume it’s important work you’re doing spreading misinformation about e-cigarettes, and it’s quite disturbing knowing you’re too arrogant or ignorant by claiming you “don’t know enough” and there’s “not enough information”.

If you are a medical professional. do some reading here about e-cigarettes. If I can find it with a full time job, and NO degree, you can certainly access and inform with your vast knowledge and education, right? You’ve got the big degree. Figure it out.


Here is an example of “not sure”.

Dr Kevin R. Campbell, MD, FACC

“Discussing the dangers of e-cigarettes with @WNCNMikeg on @WNCN this morning”.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=936687416343234


He says he is discussing dangers and states in part:

“some type of fluid” (Um, don’t you KNOW? Your discussing the DANGERS of E-cigs, Doctor? You don’t sound qualified to discuss them very well, now do you?)

“nicotine…terribly addictive” Wrong

Referring to Dr. Jeff Crane, he’s “unsure” but both of you could go here for plenty of information about e-cigarettes.

As for gateways / children?

In the end, this specific “doctor” after proper adult engagement and “needing to know more”, blocked quite a few people both on twitter & facebook because we were pointing out the discrepancies in his “expertise”, like adults.



For some reason, this next link goes to the middle of the twitter line, so you may need to scroll up to see his first tweet:

This is just a part of the timeline here.

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I don’t care what your position is, I don’t care what your title claims you to be, if you are in the public eye you should be ashamed of yourself for pretending to know “dangers” and then saying you “don’t know enough” of the very topic you describe as dangerous. Dr. Campbell, by the way, I saw your misinformation about Chantix where you claim it’s VERY EFFECTIVE as well…would you recommend that crap to your family?

Stop the lies, vaping saves lives. Nice tie, and hope your book sells hundreds.


All comments are from the Vaping Truth Survey (Final Analysis)


If you have PROOF, and it has been properly performed and properly reviewed, I and every person vaping will listen to every word.

Here, just in case you want to redeem yourself, I have your “Plausible Deniability” section ready.

Keep On #Vaping On.

Kevin