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Nicotine and Vaping: Let’s Change The Conversation

Let’s Change The Conversation.

Let’s change the conversation about the myths surrounding nicotine and vaping.

The government resists ignores the opportunity to correct myths surrounding nicotine, vaping, and snus. Most things shared in mainstream media is full of multi-layered bias. There are difficulties explaining admitting vaping products and nicotine (and snus) are a safer, less harmful alternative to smoking, and the government continues to mislead the public.


Let’s change the conversation.


Myth:

Vaping does not work.

Truth:

Vaping does work.

Current nicotine cessation products show smoking cessation rates below 7% at 1 year.

Dr. Gottlieb knows the 93% failure rate is accurate.

However, what you’re not being told they won’t admit: Without question, e-cigarettes have shown extremely high success rates. A survey conducted by the Moffitt Cancer Center funded by the National Institute of Health (NIH) and National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) showed as far back as 2013: 79% had completely quit smoking cigarettes

An immediate transition

42% quit switched in one day. 75% stopped smoking switched within a month in (my) global survey of 7,238 participants. While some ‘experts’ believe this is bias because vapers participated, this shows ‘real world’ beneficial bias. I found their experience similar to mine and wanted the world to know. So did they.

This more recent survey shows “real world” results as well..

Flavors: This United States survey, the largest survey ever performed on e-cigarette use in terms of sample size with 69,233, shows flavors was associated with significantly higher odds of adults having quit switched with vaping products and was submitted to the Food and Drug Administration.

The FDA has not published or utilized these findings to my knowledge.


“They want to regulate, restrict, tax and ban less smoking.”


Consider this:

Did you know “it may take 30 or more quit attempts before being successful” They DO.

I do.


Myth:

“We just don’t know enough”, there’s not enough research.

Truth:

There’s plenty of research.

There are over 200 pages of research found here.

56 more demonstrating vaping products are less harmful than cigarettes or are effective to switch can be found here.

Dr. Farsalinoshas been conducting laboratory and clinical research on e-cigarettes as a principal investigator since 2011” has his research found here.


Point To Ponder:

The FDA experimented with Chantix on 12-16-year-olds. “The study failed to meet the main goal”. You read that right. It’s here.

Fun Fact: They are encouraging more smoking.

According to this press release: “Agencies of the U.S. federal government have invested more than $100 million in independent clinical research with SPECTRUM cigarettes

Dr. Gottlieb, along with the majority of non-profit “health” organizations are excited to support more combustible cigarettes (with “lower nicotine“) entering the market.


There’s More:

This February 2018 article from Moffit Cancer Center, where Thomas H. Brandon, Moffit’s Director of Tobacco Research and Intervention Program is in the middle of “a large national study” and states “my perspective that e-cigarettes represent the most important change in the landscape of tobacco use during my 36 years in this field. We need to harness this change to maximize the public health benefit“.

Dr. Brandon acknowledges quitting takes “several serious attempts” and smokers should make use of the seven products approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and adds: “And yes, e-cigarettes, whatever works!” (Article.)


Let’s change the conversation.


It’s time for public health and politicians to

make a decision:

You want less smoking, or you don’t.

You want less harm, or you don’t.


Not the only one wanting to change the conversation with public perception, Dr. David Abrams of New York University agrees with Public Health England’s 2015 report.

According to this article, he knows vaping products are “substantially less harmful than cigarettes“.


Annual Reviews of Public Health

Again, changing the conversation is paramount to “reframe societal views of nicotine use” and stressed the need to “get out the latest accurate information about reduced harm”, along with the need for “ethics and integrity in responsibly interpreting the scientific evidence with rigor” is a necessity in this Annual Reviews of Public Health.


Consider this:

YOU are CASAA. The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-Free Alternatives has been changing the conversation since 2009. There are thousands of real-world testimonials here, and it is free to be a member and I encourage you to join here.

Tobacco Harm Reduction 4 Life (THR4Life) is another consumer group. THR4Life wants to change the conversation by supporting and educating consumers.


WHY are government officials withholding information on legal consumer nicotine/tobacco products from the public?


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Myth:

E-liquid is a tobacco product

Truth:

As of August 8th, 2016, e-liquid (with or without nicotine) and vaping products are “deemed” (looked on, or to regard or consider in a specified way) tobacco products for the sole purpose of then regulating, restricting, taxing (like cigarettes) and even banning them.

Milk is not beef. Syrup is not wood. Grapes and hops are not alcohol. Almonds are not milk. Nicotine is not tobacco.

Sources for nicotine patches, gums, inhalers, and e-liquid all come from the same source. While some e-liquids do contain nicotine extracted from the tobacco plant, it can also be synthetic.

Exempt? Nicotine patches, gums, inhalers

It’s the same nicotine. “Nicotine can also be purchased in many other forms including patches, chewing gum, and liquid extract formula.” That’s here.

Are E-Cigarettes Tobacco Products?

Schrodinger’s Nicotine: Not Derived From Tobacco

American Cancer Society on vaping: Nicotine is not tobacco


DEFINITIONS matter:An almond doesn’t lactate, I will confess,” Dr. Gottlieb said. It doesn’t meet “standards of identity” in this article.

Definitions matter, evidently. Gottlieb says non-dairy products like “almond milk” and “soy” are not “milk”.

(Article reference, video reference)

Myth:

Vaping products and nicotine replacements like patches contain nicotine, I’m trading one addiction for another. Vaping is just like smoking.

Truth:

No. These products are different and the likelihood of addiction is very low.

While the nicotine itself is the same nicotine, these products deliver nicotine differently and have a much lower risk of addiction than cigarettes.

“To debate a comparison of e-cigarettes to combustible tobacco is gross negligence or voluntary incompetence.”

There are other chemicals in cigarettes, like ammonia, for enhancing nicotine delivery. There is much more to it.Research is showing that nicotine may not be the only ingredient in tobacco that affects its addictive potential” and “…likely caused by some as-yet-unidentified ingredient in tobacco smoke other than nicotine.”

You can see more about this hidden at the bottom of the page in purple from drugfacts.org here.


There’s More:

I understand your skepticism about nicotine. In fact, despite what you’ve heard since the 1988 Surgeon General’s report, there is no proof nicotine addiction exists.

This, from Hanan Frenk and Reuven Dar, says claiming nicotine addiction “could only be sustained by systematically ignoring all contradictory evidence” and “is remarkably biased and misleading.”.

That’s explained here:

If the data contradicts the theory, throw out the data. 

It is also explained very well by Chris Price here:

Is Nicotine ‘Addictive’?

Still not convinced? I still understand your skepticism.

Consider this:

This is ground-breaking research on Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s disease. Dr. Paul Newhouse is director of Vanderbilt University’s Center for Cognitive Medicine.


“…and nobody started smoking cigarettes.”

“It seems very safe even in nonsmokers,” he said. “In our studies we find it actually reduces blood pressure chronically. And there were no addiction or withdrawal problems, and nobody started smoking cigarettes. The risk of addiction to nicotine alone is virtually nil.”

Study finds nicotine safe, helps in Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s

And this:

The effects of nicotine itself are similar to that other popular drug, caffeine. There is no evidence that nicotine causes any substantial risk for cancer, and the research shows that the risk for cardiovascular disease is minimal. The confusion about nicotine comes from anti-smoking activists talking about nicotine and smoking as if they were the same.

This website also has information about smokeless tobacco including snus.

All about Nicotine (and Addiction)


Let’s change the conversation.


Consider this:

In Florida, Dr. Lee, faced with a five-year-old (at the time) experiencing “20 seizures a night” with a rare form of epilepsy decided to administer nicotine via a patch. Dr. Lee also “found evidence that a nicotine patch helped stopped seizures in an adult”.

Stunned? That’s here: Nicotine patch ends seizures for 5-year-old girl


No one has proven themselves right with criteria provided in my “Nicotine Addiction: An Open 30-Day Public Health Challenge“.


Myth:

There are no side effects from vaping products.

Truth:

An important point for someone considering vaping as an alternative, Vaping 360 has some astounding information on their website. One example is ‘The Potential Side Effects from Vaping“.

Also, some have experienced allergic reactions to propylene glycol.

Myth:

If I use vaping products, I will experience no withdrawal symptoms or cravings quitting smoking during my transition.

Truth:

Vaping products reduce withdrawal symptoms associated with cigarette smoking.

In fact, many (mentioned in the survey linked above) experienced little or no withdrawal symptoms during their transition. Nicotine strength is essential.

Let’s change the conversation in the next myth below.


Myth:

If I start vaping, nicotine strength should be reduced as soon as possible.

Truth:

You should not limit your nicotine strength.

During your transition, the strength of nicotine you choose mimics the throat hit you experienced while smoking. It’s your pleasure. If you decide to switch, it is recommended nicotine strength matches to make the transition easier. There are also nicotine calculators to estimate your nicotine strength.

As an example, if you smoke heavily, your nicotine strength should be 12, 16, 18, or 24mg. Strengths do go higher, (36, 54 and even as high as 72mg). If you are a light smoker, it may only be 0, 3, 6 or 9mg nicotine strength you would be satisfied with. Start higher, and over time you can lower your nicotine if you feel you should. Your local vape shop should be able to determine your needs.

Since myths of nicotine have been ingrained into the public and culture so long, finding this study showing higher nicotine strengths was intriguing.


Myth:

Nicotine causes cancer.

Truth:

Nicotine does NOT cause cancer.


There’s More:

World renowned cardiologist Dr. Farsalinos explains in this article: “Nicotine does not cause cancer“, he goes on to say “All medical experts around the world know this to be a true fact. And yet, many continue making the mistake of associating nicotine with cancer.”

Chris Price also explains it well here:

Nicotine And Cancer – Is There Any Link?

There’s MORE:

In fact, the Royal Society for Public Health DOES say “nicotine is no more harmful than caffeine”, here.


Myth:

Only healthy people can use Nicotine Replacement Therapy (NRT), or nicotine.

Truth:

The effects of NRT and vaping products on the body is not “fully known”, but these products are safer than cigarettes. By using vaping products to switch from smoking, “you reduce your exposure to many chemicals found in tobacco smoke.”

In fact, 85% of the medical professionals in this survey said they are safer than combustible cigarettes.

If you have any concerns, talk to your doctor before doing so. Some find as patients, they are educating their doctors.

Under the direction of your doctor, most people can use NRT. Generally, NRT and vaping products can be safely used by people with diabetes or high blood pressure and does not increase the risk of heart attacks.


“Think of the children™.”

It is an appeal to emotion designed to create moral panic.

Myth:

E-cigarettes are “an epidemic among children”

Truth:

No, there is no “epidemic”. With bold being my emphasis, It may surprise you to see this via Clive Bates:

“Applying this proportion to the 2018 data would suggest about 4% of high school students are daily users (this compares to the headline 20.8% use in the past 30-days).”

That’s here: The great American youth vaping epidemic. Really?

Added 4/04/2019:

Some FDA Claims About Teen Vaping Confirmed, Others Evaporate


Points to ponder:

It is illegal to purchase these products for anyone under 18.

That fact is on page 13 of the 499 page document found here.

Did you know?

Since 1992, retailers must “achieve a noncompliance rate of no more than 20%” selling tobacco to minors (80% is acceptable in accordance with the Synar Amendment)

That fact is here and is tied to funding: Synar Amendment


Myth:

E-cigarettes are “marketed to children”.

Truth:

This short video featuring Dr. Steven J. Allen from Capital Research explains:

It may also surprise you to see this:

“Anybody who tells you Juul is a panic or an epidemic in America is deceiving you”~ Iowa Attorney General ~ Tom Miller

Campaign For Tobacco-Free Kids Market E-cigarettes and Tobacco to Children.


Myth:

Only children like flavors.

Truth:

Surely you can answer for yourself if you like flavors (coffee, cake, cookies, candy, Grandma’s pies, etc.). While the myth of flavors being a ‘gateway‘ to smoking for teens (it is not), it is noted flavors like fruit and desserts, pastry and other flavors are extremely important in your transition.

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Myth:

E-cigarettes are a “gateway” to smoking.

Truth:

More truthful information across the board = less harm.

“If our primary concern is population-level trends in youth and young adult smoking, which we believe is appropriate, then vaping has not shown to be a serious cause for concern”.

That statement can be found here:

Examining the relationship of vaping to smoking initiation among US youth and young adults: a reality check

Two other studies, one here, and one from Yale showsas a result of these bans, more teenagers are using conventional cigarettes than otherwise would have done so“, here.

Also: Gateway Effects: Why the Cited Evidence Does Not Support Their Existence

Also: Gateway effects and electronic cigarettes.


Myth:

There’s “anti-freeze” in e-cigarettes, and I’ve heard about “popcorn lung”.

Truth:

Blatantly lying, there is no “anti-freeze” in e-liquid. This statement is simply manipulative and absurd. As of the publishing of this post, the well respected American Academy of Pediatrics is still alluding to ‘anti-freeze’ as an ingredient on their ‘quick facts’ section here.

A twist of words on an ingredient, “facts” by various health groups and professionals. This article from Lee Johnson will ease your mind about this subject:

Propylene Glycol in E-Cigarettes – Is PG Dangerous to Inhale?

Popcorn lung is also false. From Dr Farsalinos, Brad Rodu, Dr. Siegel and more, a collection of evidence to the contrary:

A Bucket Full of Popcorn


Myth:

What about “second-hand” vapor?

Truth:

A valid concern. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health took that quite a bit further in a vape shop, where more than one person would be using these products.

“We evaluated concerns about exposure to vaping-related chemicals in a vape shop. Exposure to flavoring chemicals (diacetyl, 2,3-pentanedione, acetaldehyde), formaldehyde, nicotine, and propylene glycol were all below occupational exposure limits.”

That”s here: HHE Report No. 2015-0107-3279

Also see: “Results indicate e-cigarette secondhand exposures are sources of elevated nicotine and propylene glycol exposures. Secondhand exposures to e-cigarettes did not contain consistently elevated concentrations of formaldehyde or acetaldehyde.”
That’s here:

Air monitoring at large public electronic cigarette events.

And here from Clive Bates:

Public health snoopers detect vapour aerosol at vape conference and fake a particulates scare


If you’re interested:


There’s More:


Linda Bauld: “despite the lack of data of safety in pregnancy, we can be relatively confident that if the choice is between continued smoking and use of an e-cigarette (‘vaping’) then vaping is the safer option.”

Are e-cigarettes safe to use in pregnancy?

Linda Bauld: “the benefits of e-cigarettes for smokers have been shown to far outweigh the harms”

E-Cigarettes Could Help Control Weight Gain in Smokers Trying to Quit


Also, Dr. Robert L. Cranfield, MD:

“E-cigarette users with 3 or more years of use were found to have a 96% reduction in reported adverse health events after initiation use, and a resolution of 61.8% of the measured existing health problems that developed while smoking.”

A Comparison of Health Events in Previous Smokers With Three or more years of Electronic Cigarette Experience.

“You can smoke and vape. In fact, I encourage it.”

If you are a smoker choosing to switch to vaping products, do it for your own reasons. If you smoke and vape – just to try it, that’s called “dual use“.


Should vaping products be designated as a “medical device”? Swedish courts found: “the product must have the function of preventing or treating an ailment” and are not medical devices.


From my point of view, this is about proper information and choice.

Dr. Glover: “We need a new way to deal with smoking, and shaming current smokers into submission is NOT it…”

Smoke Shaming Has Gone Too Far – How I “Deprogrammed” Myself


“They want to regulate, restrict, tax and ban less smoking.”

There’s More:

What about regulations? Well, Clive Bates answers some very important questions here:

Rethinking nicotine: FDA asks six questions about the future of nicotine regulation

Many more points here.

After everything you’ve learned so far, and before you go on, there’s a quiz (I love to hate to love) from Clive Bates:

Rethinking nicotine – a quiz


FDA’s Mitch Zeller, Director, Center for Tobacco Products knows vaping and snus doeswork:

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SOURCE: The State of Tobacco Use and Regulation in the U.S.

Dr. Scott Gottlieb, Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration knows vaping works:

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SOURCE: FDA Commissioner on E-Cigarettes and Public Health Concerns

Points to ponder

Nicotine “addiction” is blamed solely on “nicotine”. Why are teens not using patches and gums to hide their addiction?

At what age is a smoker considered a smoker?

Immature Manipulative Data

While smoking among teens has reached it’s lowest levels in history, The 2018 “Monitoring The Future” survey shows teens are using e-cigarettes at ‘epidemic’ levels at 26.7%, yet fails to show daily use (habitual).

Daily use was not asked. It did not have data showing:

  • What users were of legal age
  • What users did not use nicotine
  • How many were smoking and switched
  • Why marijuana is included with “any vaping
  • Why is “use” defined as in the past thirty days, not daily

Why?

Why would anyone in the government or public health field purposely mislead the public?

When #data collected fails to generate daily data to analysis and assess information, which bias is utilized best? Is it:

  • Area Bias?
  • Self-Selection Bias?
  • Leading Question Bias?
  • Social Desirability Bias?

How To Lie, Cheat, Manipulate and Mislead using Statistics and Graphical Displays.



Think about this very carfully:

“They want to regulate, restrict, tax and ban less smoking.”

The FDA position to limit access to adults is clear.

They’ve claimed e-cigarettes are a “gateway” to smoking.

Helen Redmond explains it eloquently here.


To put fear in the public mind, “brain damage” is also alluded to, but only found in animal studies, not humans.


Fun Fact: For the record, they want to eliminate 18, 19, and 20-year-old adults from accessing products by including vapor products with “Tobacco 21.

There’s more

They want to restrict access to cigarettes and e-cigarettes. For adults.

They already are well aware it doesn’t work. In fact, it makes no sense here. Creates more smoking, and didn’t make sense here. It also doesn’t make sense here.

The movement to raise the age to 21 for tobacco is not going to work. According to the Centers for Disease Control, underage drinking is still continuing to be a problem.


Switching and the Pleasure Principle

In the very important video below, fellow consumer David Dorn says in less than five minutes what most tobacco control experts never took the time to understand. He talks about switching and the pleasure principle.

It is highly recommended for smokers being pressured and families of smokers. This should be required for anyone in the professional crowd to listen to.

Ultimately, it is about choice and pleasure. David talks about switching. Pleasure. Choice.

From the Global Forum on Nicotine (GFN2016): The Pleasure Principle – David Dorn


Why?

Why would anyone in the government or public health field purposely and knowingly mislead the public?

Here are a few reasons in no particular order:

WHY are government officials withholding information on legal consumer nicotine/tobacco products from the public?


Let’s CHANGE The Conversation.

Along with e-cigarettes, I must point you to this important link from Dr. Brad Rodu about Mitch Zeller making false statements about smokeless tobacco needing to be part of the conversation as well. Dr. Rodu also talks about snus, and here where Mitch Zeller quietly answers Bengt Wiberg and absolutely admits snus is another alternative in the world, but no one hears that.

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If the time, energy and money it took to convince the public otherwise been spent over the last ten+ years e-cigarettes have been available to educate, not manipulate, they may have achieved their goal of less smoking in the United States. I applaud the few who have stepped up despite the pressure of professional peers, and I encourage the others to do the same.

Medical, Research, Science Professionals: M.O.V.E.

On one hand, when if authorities, legislator and public health officials swallow their pride and see the need, en mass, to listen and to change the conversation completely, they will be very embarrassed.

On the other hand, changing the conversation, for most, isn’t their goal.

Let’s change the conversation about myths surrounding nicotine and vaping.

This blog was derived, in part, from a previous post featuring James Jarvis, and “Dispelling Myths about Nicotine Replacement Therapy”: Myths about Nicotine


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Vaping In The News – December 1st, 2018

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Vaping In The News covers media stories on smoking, vaping, snus, heat not burn, e-cigarettes, exposing tobacco control, public health, government, regulations, policies and more worldwide.

“The largest threat to Public Health is an informed consumer.”


More heat than light ~ Pace of US smoking rate decline mirrors rapid rise in popularity of vaping ~ Caught red-handed ~ Let them eat cake ~ Honor Among Thieves ~ Bozeman shop challenges Gallatin County  ~ Altria is reportedly in talks to take a minority stake in Juul ~ Tobacco products promoted on Facebook despite policies ~ When money talks, the truth walks ~ Vaping and the Mic



More heat than light

Clive takes us on a ride…

More heat than light – new US statistics on youth vaping provide no basis for FDA policy


Pace of US smoking rate decline mirrors rapid rise in popularity of vaping

For about four years I’ve been told e-cigarettes – “even non-nicotine e-cigarettes” are a gateway TO smoking… This must be a coincidence.

My favorite reference:

glantz non nic

Huh.

Pace of US smoking rate decline mirrors rapid rise in popularity of vaping


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Caught red-handed

Speaking of liars, Christopher Snowden has an example.

Caught red-handed


Everyone should celebrate 20 years of failure.

Professor Glantz, shown with his hand in his pocket (not sure if that is him fondling Master Settlement Agreement funds, a court ordered gesture – or good idea).


Honor Among Thieves

The public is convinced tobacco companies pay for the the largest pyramid/ponzi scheme ever created. Smokers pay the ransom to demean themselves – to protect the tobacco companies.

“The major U.S. tobacco companies settled litigation with the states on November 23, 1998, in what is known as the Master Settlement Agreement, which requires the tobacco companies to pay out annually in perpetuity.”

Tobacco Master Settlement at 20 Years


Bozeman shop challenges Gallatin County indoor vaping ban

Bozeman shop challenges Gallatin County indoor vaping ban

“The BOH (Board of Health) had essentially pre-voted on its inclusion of electronic nicotine delivery devices, without public comment or any information from parties opposing inclusion under the CIAA enforcement, and well before the BOH meeting.”👇

Store Owners Go To Court

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Fund The Vape Lawsuit


Altria is reportedly in talks to take a minority stake in Juul

No surprise… They’re buying the competition. 

Altria is reportedly in talks to take a minority stake in Juul


Speaking of paying to bully one’s self


Tobacco products promoted on Facebook despite policies

Since the 1970’s, there has been a ban on the advertising of tobacco. In 1970, President Nixon signed a law called the Public Health Cigarette Smoking Act  – banning cigarette ads on T. V. and radio – beginning January 2nd of 1971. (Link). To get around it, media runs combustible tobacco images along side ‘anti-tobacco’ groups –  and has for years.

Side note: The US Government has been secretly recruiting underage smokers since 1992 at an acceptable “noncompliance rate of no more than 20%“.

On August 8, 2016, the United States legally defined and, on National Tobacco Day, “deemed” nicotine as tobacco. Without a doubt, advertising on social media of e-liquid is both self-promoted and promoted by consumers. The government, media and tobacco control continue to do both.

Because I like to tug on short hairs… I’m surprised the e-cigarette market is still legally able to advertise on social media (with the idiotic nicotine warning). While anarchy and mob rules may apply for some, I wonder – with legal definition – just how long advertising will be -ignored- (also federal tobacco taxes imposed) and how long it will take to try to knock it all down – if they could only do it without emotion.

I think the push has started.

Tobacco products promoted on Facebook despite policies


When money talks, the truth walks

“Before you embark on this nefarious enterprise, make sure you have sufficient funds to deliver on all that follows.”

When money talks, the truth walks


Vaping and the Mic

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Vaping In The News – April 21st, 2018

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Vaping In The News covers media stories on smoking, vaping, e-cigarettes, snus, heat not burn, tobacco control, public health, government regulations, policies and more.

“The largest threat to Public Health is an informed consumer.”



Wrigley Beats Vape Co. In Starburst, Skittles Flavors TM Row ~ E-cigarette brand’s 2.6M power units being recalled ~ Heat Not Burn ~ Sticks & Stones ~ Vaping’s potential to benefit public health exceeds its risks ~ Science Backs the FDA Down ~ Science Lesson ~ LIES, DAMNED LIES, & 400,000 SMOKING-RELATED DEATHS ~ CASAA FREE Membership Offered to Vapers ~ David Goerlitz ~ Clive Bates ~ FDA Inspection Proposal




Wrigley Beats Vape Co. In Starburst, Skittles Flavors TM Row

I’ll call this the “stop being idiots” link. STOP using trademarks. STOP using anything with cartoons.

Wrigley Beats Vape Co. In Starburst, Skittles Flavors TM Row


Two things:

1. Anyone using Vuse?
2. The “industry” is policing itself.

E-cigarette brand’s 2.6M power units being recalled


Heat Not Burn Products – The New Nicotine Alliance Steps Into The Debate

This isn’t my Father’s generation of choices – or lack thereof.

Whether I “like” the patch, gum, hypnosis, books, drugs, e-cigarettes – including cig-a-likes, snus, heat not burn, nicotine toothpicks, nicotine salts, high powered mods (where are those old ego starter kits) or acupuncture…. really doesn’t matter. Those are, along with tobacco control’s potpouri of guilt, demonizing, (my opinion) hocus pocus, feel good apps, classes, walks, straws (yes straws) and quitlines… many more ways suggested to not smoke (or smoke less) if a consumer decides. WHAT consumers use, how consumers get it, or who it’s made by… still really doesn’t matter.

Just as I’ve seen with kratom and CBD, I don’t use them and know little about them, never thinking I’d be anywhere near talking about those… but dammit… if they WORK…

I type this blog to speak fluently and informatively about those choices FOR the consumer to make educated choices based on their preferences and let them know the average success and failures of any product they may be interested in.

Despite where it comes from, what may work as a choice for a consumer is first. Let us not become them. Let us not fuck that up. (Thanks, Sarah Jakes.)

Heat Not Burn Products – The New Nicotine Alliance Steps Into The Debate


Related: Sticks & Stones

Sticks & Stones


Vaping’s potential to benefit public health exceeds its risks

“…those benefits represent a small fraction of the enormous harm caused by combustible tobacco…”

Vaping’s potential to benefit public health exceeds its risks


Nothing to see here, no manipulation of words here… move along.

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OR, do something about it HERE and HERE.


Science Backs the FDA Down

Science Backs the FDA Down (Vaping is Free)…


Science Lesson: Clinical Trial Evidence Debunks The ‘Vaping Impedes Smoking Cessation’ Claim

“the quality of an answer is highly dependent on the question that is being asked.”

Carl V. Phillips:

Science Lesson: Clinical Trial Evidence Debunks The ‘Vaping Impedes Smoking Cessation’ Claim


LIES, DAMNED LIES, & 400,000 SMOKING-RELATED DEATHS

Over the past few years I’ve heard “STOP repeating the lies of tobacco control” – or to that sentiment. We’ve all heard the “smoking-related” death numbers over the years. We’ve heard the claim “taxes lower deaths”. The latest WHO numbers went from 6 to 7 Million deaths… well, DrMA below has questioned that… (Don’t tell him how much I adore him, he might get a big head.)

I’ve questioned it – on the prompting of DrMA above (He’s such a bad influence)….. wondering with all the taxes going up, how could that number jump from 6 to 7 million….. so I’ve asked…

Meanwhile, Mike – over on Facebook – found this through Michael J. Mcfadden…. it seems I’ll never see “everything”, and as with anything you read… it’s worth the read.

LIES ,DAMNED LIES, & 400,000 SMOKING-RELATED DEATHS


CASAA FREE Membership Offered to Vapers

Because it’s there…

CASAA FREE Membership Offered to Vapers


DAVID GOERLITZ.

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Did I mention I love David? I’ll do that now. Having a front row seat is a pretty good view. David is approachable, kind and brutally honest.

He is for the consumer, vaper, smoker, and he’s far too intelligent and articulate to hold it in… David’s words:

“LAUNCHING E LIQUID LINE, PINNACLE CBD FLAVORED LINE, VAPE RADIO SHOW, PODCAST, ADVOCACY, AND CALL TO ACTIVISM TO HELP SMOKERS WHEN / IF THEY ARE READY TO QUIT SMOKING. MY DESIRE TO HELP EDUCATE AND HELP SAVE LIVES GROWS STRONGER EVERYDAY. TIME TO SEPARATE THE MEN AND THE WOMEN FROM THE BOYS AND THE GIRLS.

David G Signature Series (formerly known as the Winston Man). Thanks for your patience.

I was taught do it right the first time or don’t do it at all. There is no ( I ) in team. I have a great team that believes in me. Wont disappoint.”

David G Signature Series


Clive Bates

What else do you need to know…


FDA Inspection Proposal

For the professionals out there:

FDA Inspection Proposal Provides Valuable Insight Into Scope of Investigations



Bonus flashback article… my favorite #CrankyOldBroad, Skip… has been doing some research. Along with how I find things accidentally, she came across this:

FDA says tobacco law doesn’t apply to two smokeless lozenges


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Organized Crime Heads Applaud FDA’s Decision To Reduce Nicotine

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Is combustion reduced?

Will health benefits increase?

Are other ingredients reduced?

Will this cause more casual smokers?

Can you define “minimally” or “non-addictive”?

Is this nothing more than prescribing smoking?

What is being added to tobacco to reduce nicotine?



Update, MAY 2018: Here’s the signedjoint letterfrom the criminal non-governmental organizations.



When Dr. Gottleib, head of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) made the announcement to reduce nicotine and keep tobacco burning, health criminal organizations immediately applauded the plan to continue tobacco use.

Speculation over future profits is keeping some barely contained in their excitement.

Since the announcement to lower nicotine in cigarettes, health organized crime heads have rallied in support in the plan, some calling it a “game changer” between bites of cannolis.

“I’m gonna make him an offer he can’t refuse.”
― Mario Puzo, The Godfather

The goal? Leave the nicotine, keep the tobacco.

That’s the important, and profitable part.

Loan sharks are circling the wagons, they want their money back.



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The Plan

For this to work, there must be a strong and unbreakable criminal network and respect for the groundwork criminal element already  established between the drug companies and public health, even if was before you were born, and specifically if you don’t understand it.

Everyone must agree that nicotine is addictive and dangerous. Decades of a foundational and profitable lie is at stake for everyone, even when nicotine isn’t addictive without tobacco. No one wants to be embarassed.

People could get hurt.

“There are things that have to be done and you do them and you never talk about them. You don’t try to justify them. They can’t be justified. You just do them. Then you forget it.”
― Mario Puzo, The Godfather


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Dr. Gottlieb

He himself is a fan of tobacco. Big fan. Smoking promotion is big business when it’s technically illegal for tobacco companies to advertise themselves. The government does it for them.

I can’t imagine he read this opinion piece he linked, it was written by a history professor with writing skill and knowledge of a cat in heat, or at least worse than mine. Among other things, it stated:

“Smokers would be able to start or quit at will, without suffering the robbery of choice that defines addiction.”.

Keeping tobacco and trying to redefine it as nicotine, is a game.

He and fellow criminal, Mitch “Two-Butts” Zeller wrote a long and boring letter and *surprise*, it got published as gospel in the New England Journal of Medicine.

It does sound convincing.

“A nicotine-limiting standard could make cigarettes minimally addictive or nonaddictive, helping current users of combustible cigarettes to quit and allowing most future users to avoid becoming addicted and proceeding to regular use”


The Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids.

“Let’s make it happen”

“Lets move forward” – note, take the nicotine out and consider the other EIGHT ways in tobacco, the ingredient they’re allegedly against in their “informative” and graphic below of the other acceptable ingredients that will remain untouched.

Good move” “should act quickly

Those cigarettes won’t smoke themselves.

Positive reinforcement by a political front group: Keep smoking


Action on Smoking & Health.

They call continued tobacco use a “real public health power move“.


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Truth Initiative

Truth Initiative®, publicly applauded the move to keep tobacco, in fact, strongly – as shown below.


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The Robert Woods Johnson Foundation

They want to make sure you didn’t miss it: “ICYMI” In case you missed it.

I’ll quote our dear friend, Agent Ania who is screaming from her resting place,

“Quelle surprise”


Michael Eriksen

As the Former Director – CDC’s Office on Smoking and Health, current Dean and Regents’ Professor, Georgia State School of Public Health and part of Tobacco Atlas, Mr. Eriksen believes “deeming was so important”.

The mis-step in this and other “assessments”, is to reduce the harm caused by tobacco would be, according to all the experts, eliminate the tobacco, not endorse it.

You think he’d know better, but nobody’s paying attention.

As tweets go, Mr. Eriksen can be “non-committed” and just report the tweet as if…and just quoting the story  – failing credibility is of no concern.


UCSF

With a broken cigarette, it’s “intriguing”.


Dr. Tom Frieden

#Skippy, the Former circus act at the Centers for Disease Control director and Former New York Mayor Bloomberg muppet – thinks continued tobacco use could save millions. It’s “important”. He’s trying to pretend he’s a rebel within by the subtle “If it happens”, and the clever hashtag #tobaccokills is almost as adorable as his efforts when he was in charge. Do as you’re told, #Skippy.

Speaking of Bloomberg

“The Editors” at Bloomberg calls it “A smart plan”. To promote tobacco.

Keep the tobacco. Catching on?

Take the Addiction Out of Smoking


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Not supporting it.

“…don’t ever take sides with anyone against the family again. Ever.”

– Michael Corleone, The Godfather

While I don’t agree that “people need to stop smoking” as stated below by the American Council on Science and Health, smoking is a personal adult choice, I am not surprised this is the only group making a bit of sense.

Despite my reservation, ACSH is standing alone as it speaks out against the criminal acts unfolding with what is known as common sense. They even went as far as stating nicotine is “harmless”. Finally, truth.

https://twitter.com/ACSHorg/status/899628670720983041

ACSH is the only one I’ve found so far.

Imagine that…

So far I haven’t seen the Body Parts Orgs™ (© David Goerlitz) say anything.

I’m waiting on the Heart, Lung and Cancer criminals to make their decision as to which way they’ll roll.


It isn’t like it hasn’t been tried before in 1989:

The ultra-low-nicotine cigarette is the latest entry in an increasingly feverish race among tobacco manufacturers to stop a decline of 2 percent a year in cigarette consumption in the United States.

Tobacco industry executives say the process of removing nicotine that Philip Morris used to create the Merit Free is similar to the decaffeination process used on coffee beans.

”It’s a pretty common, patented process that we’re all aware of,” said Douglas Keeney, chairman of C. A. Blockers.

Here

and here….

Very Low Nicotine Cigarettes


In 2008?

Bold is my emphasis:

In summary, a toxicological analysis does not indicate that low-nicotine and nicotine-free Quest® cigarettes have less adverse toxicological effects in the laboratory than conventional cigarettes. This should draw the attention of the consumers and policy makers.

Toxicological Analysis of Low-Nicotine and Nicotine-Free Cigarettes


What is wrong with this approach?

Well, for starters – they’re promoting what they’re pretending to get everyone away from. So they can make more money.


Clive Bates

Here’s what Clive Bates has to say about

Reducing the nicotine content to make cigarettes less addictive

Clive Bates & Carrie Wade:

Reducing nicotine in cigarettes raises all sorts of problems


What Trump’s FDA director gets wrong

“The FDA’s failure, to date, to acknowledge that e-cigarettes not only are safer than combustible cigarettes, but that they are much safer, results in confusion among would be consumers.”

What Trump’s FDA director gets wrong


The FDA’s words and actions do not match

The New England Journal of Medicine published this letter last week. In essence, it is FDA funded propaganda at its finest:

The FDA’s words and actions do not match


Added 9/7/17

Brad Rodu said this in 2010:

Down the Rabbit Hole: Tobacco Control Through Radical Nicotine Reduction

Negligible Evidence of Radical Nicotine Reduction Benefit

Brad Rodu, always informative & intriguing: as he explains the “game changer” above and the

“$93.3 million in grants from the National Institute on Drug Abuse and the FDA:

Negligible Evidence of Radical Nicotine Reduction Benefit


Dick Puddlecoat

“It’s not just questionable, it’s insane. One can only assume that the people endorsing it are either corrupt or mentally compromised.”

Very Low Intelligence


Very Low Intelligence

My extremely intelligent friend Paul explains very eloquently why this whole thing is tripe from across the pond:

Very Low Intelligence


Bolton Smokers Club

The USA Intention to Reduce Nicotine Content in Cigs


Related

The Myth of ‘Light’ Cigarettes

Lowering Nicotine

Are there other chemicals that cause addiction in tobacco?
MAIO’s? Take a gander at what the U.S. Government themselves say:

Are There Other Chemicals That May Contribute to Tobacco Addiction?


In case you missed these, here are a few of my related takes on the investment the FDA has made on promoting tobacco use the biggest criminal Ponzi Scheme ever conducted on a continual legal basis in the United States.

It’s all about the money, folks, not about health.

A Nicotine-Focused FDA Framework.

Lowering nicotine in cigarettes is a gateway to smoking

Added 9/3/17:

Prescribing Smoking:

Here is the company they are funding, and backing.

I did a bit of digging…..

Um… they’re suggesting PRESCRIBING smoking.

X-22 is the first and only smoking cessation product in the form of a combustible cigarette.

X-22 is a six-week prescription treatment which utilizes Very Low Nicotine (VLN) cigarettes (95% less nicotine than conventional cigarettes) to satisfy a smoker’s craving for cigarettes while separating the act of smoking from the rapid delivery of nicotine.

X-22 Smoking Cessation Aid In Development

Red Sun

This is its American brand sold in more than 600 stores. It is a high nicotine cigarette. It might seem counterintuitive, especially given the health benefits claimed by its very low nicotine cigarettes, but high nicotine cigarettes could have significant health benefits as well.

X-22 has certain advantages:

  • It’s a cigarette, people seem to prefer that

  • It has no side effects, apart from the harmful effects of cigarette smoke

  • It has been proved effective in six clinical trials

22nd Century’s Unique Cigarettes Create Growth Opportunities

Keep smoking, we’ll just help you lower your nicotine.


Added 9/16/2017

The Corruption of Public Health


Added 01/31/2018

The crimes continue… press release is to settle investors minds, in my opinion.

“Cancer Action Network, American Heart Association, American Lung Association, Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids and the Truth Initiative co-authored a letter to Dr. Gottlieb and the FDA”

FDA Remains Firmly Committed to Nicotine Reduction in Cigarettes


Added 02/01/2018

Related via Carl V. Phillips

“There is no reason to believe that lowering the nicotine content of cigarettes will lower their carcinogenicity.”

Are Low-Nicotine Cigarettes Less Likely To Cause Cancer?

Added 02/02/2018

Investors are questioning integrity:

22nd Century – Cutting Through The Smoke And Hype – 75% Downside


Added 03/03/2018

Neal Benowitz himself said: (bold is my emphasis)

CONCLUSIONS

1. Smokers regulate their intake of nicotine to obtain the amount of nicotine that they need to sustain their addiction.

2. Spontaneous brand-switching studies suggest that there is no reduc­tion in smoke intake per cigarette, and that any reductions that are seen in brand switchers depend upon whether or not those individuals also reduce their cigarette consumption.

3. Studies of smokers smoking self-selected brands showed a weak rela­tionship between machine-measured nicotine yield and a smoker’s nicotine, CO, or thiocyanate exposure.

4. Considering the overall exposure data for individuals selecting their own brands, there is little reason to expect that smokers of low-yield ciga­rettes will have a lower risk of disease than those who smoke higher yield cigarettes.

That’s all here in

“Compensatory Smoking of Low Yield Cigarettes”


Added 6/21//2018

22nd Century isn’t the “only” one:

Radient Technologies Inc. Files FDA Submission for Reducing Nicotine in Tobacco

ADDED 7/30/2018

Minimally or “non-addictive” nicotine

Let me remind you of the accolades of lower nicotine:

Cliff Douglass of the American Cancer Society –  thinks lower nicotine in cigarettes is “Absolutely everything

NCI Director Ned Sharpless says “…good news for treating cancer and preventing cancer

FDA’s Scott Gottlieb claims “Lower nicotine in the same product

Matt Myers of Tobacco-Free Kids says “…to use products that won’t kill them

Basing “minimally or non-addictive” levels of nicotine by lowering cigarette consumption by 1.6 less cigarettes… over two years… is a public health win?  Here’s what they came up with after two years:

238 “non-daily” smokers… what?

👉 over the course of two years...

lowered their smoking by 1.6 cigarettes…

“real-time reporting” and “cigarette butt counts.”

No – to slow progress… is this is what the Food and Drug Administration likes?

One of my favorite subjects – covered here and here

This headline calls it “staggering“.

You can check my math here:

Nondaily Smokers’ Changes in Cigarette Consumption With Very Low-Nicotine-Content Cigarettes

Added 3/04/2019:

15 to 19 year-olds are being “tested”:

Evaluation of Very Low Nicotine Content Cigarettes in Adolescent Smokers


More from me:

The FDA can’t prove nicotine addiction or gateways exist.

Smell that? Tobacco Control Is Imploding.


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Vaping In The News ~ July 22nd, 2017

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Vaping In The News

July 16th – 22nd, 2017

Clive Bates ~ Advocacy ~ Carl V. Phillips (x’s2) ~ THRA Survey Results ~ Why Should Vapers Defend Smokers? ~ ECigIntelligence Survey Results ~ Please Keep Smoking ~ WHO declares they need more money ~ Silencing Public Dissension ~ Frank Davis ~ Robert Morgen ~ Bill Godshall ~ Countdown ~ Kevin Price: THR4Life ~ David Goerlitz


Clive Bates:

Clive is always, and I mean always, spot on.

English tobacco control plan embraces tobacco harm reduction – world first


Advocacy

Interesting thread:


The Results Are In:

THRA Annual 2017 Vaping Survey


Have you seen THR4Life?

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Carl V. Phillips:

Utter innumeracy: six impossible claims about tobacco most “public health” people believe before breakfast

Carl, again… with Simple Simon.

Simple Simon would refuse to meet the pieman


If you know, move along, nothing to see. If you don’t…

Why should vapers defend smokers?


More Survey Results:

ECigIntelligence User Survey


Do you know about NNA?

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#PleaseKeepSmokingWeNeedTheMoney

Nothing says keep smoking more than this.

Anti-smoking council has £85m invested in tobacco companies


Taxes & a Ponzi Scheme.

Here’s that #PleaseKeepSmokingWeNeedTheMoney motto speaking for itself again:

WHO report published


You’re reading it here – maybe not first, but you’re reading it here.

Silencing Public Dissension | Public Comment Periods are No Guarantee of Coordination


Frank Davis

Frank is always a good read…..

Completely Out Of Control


Are you familiar with INNCO?

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Robert Morgen

Again, not news if you switched, but nobody in public health will talk about it.

Smokers Switching to Vaping See 66% Respiratory Improvements


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Bill Godshall

Mr. Godshall is an invaluable source of information.

Godshall Chronicles 07/07/17


Countdown:

Death of the Vaping Industry


Kevin Price, THR4Life

An idea, in fact – a vision –  from Ray Yeates of the THRA (Tobacco Harm Reduction Association of Canada) quite a while back is breathing air.

Kevin Price announced the Board Of Directors of Tobacco Harm Reduction 4 Life (A 501c3) July 17th, 2017. The Board consists of Lindsay Stroud Skip Murray, Jenny Ho, David Goerlitz and myself.

This organization will include a 1-800 number for smokers to call in with questions.

THR4Life


A Statement from David Goerlitz:

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Vaping In The News – June 24th, 2017 – O_O

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Vaping In The News ~ June 18th – 24th, 2017

Letter to Scott Gottleib ~ Do As You Are Told ~ Does the Gateway Effect Really Exist? ~ Clive Bates ~ Is Raising the Smoking Age A Good Idea? ~ Is the American Heart Association a terrorist organization? ~ GFN ~ Agent Ania

 

In loving memory of

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Agent Ania

 


Dear Dr. Scott Gottlieb, MD, Commissioner:

A letter dated the 14th of June was sent to Dr. Scott Gottleib, Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration from who I would call true Tobacco Control experts.

Reform of tobacco and nicotine regulation at FDA


Do As You Are Told

Paul seems to have a distinct tone in his voice. I’m taking a shine to that.

Do As You Are Told


Does the Gateway Effect Really Exist?

I had not seen this before. A stunning view of the “gateway effect” by Sallie Goetsch – standing the test of time.

Does the Gateway Effect Really Exist?


Clive Bates – Short & Sweet.


Is Raising the Smoking Age A Good Idea?

The Truth About Tobacco 21

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Is Raising the Smoking Age a Good Idea?


View at Medium.com

Is the American Heart Association a terrorist organization?

“Sure, the AHA isn’t beheading people in the streets or strapping bombs on children. But that’s not the only way to be a terrorist organization, is it?”

Is the American Heart Association a terrorist organization?


GFN – Global Forum on Nicotine

 

 


Agent Ania

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Agent made this.


 

She changed it eventually and “scolded” me privately more than once – for using the one above…more than once…after it was modified.

 

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Taking a life of its own, it was modified again and it now includes snus.

(Thank you Atakan.)



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Ann, below with Greg Conley of the American Vaping Association at the Milwaukee premier of A Billion Lives, has sadly passed away.


It breaks my heart, as she was one of the first few people I followed early on Twitter (@agentania).

I, and I am sure like others, had oodles of messages and exchanges with her.  Everything from Kitty2 and her view(s) on a variety of topics.

Like a secret agent, Ann did things behind the scenes and wanted no credit.

Her spirit, spunk, snark, fight and her love will never die and is in all of us.


 

As Shannon relayed for us above, we will

NEVER STOP FIGHTING FOR WHAT’S RIGHT“.

 

As DrMA says below, in loving memory.

 

I’ll be blogging on Ann very soon.


 

I know you’re watching us, Agent.

O_O.

Rest, sweet Ann.

 


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