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Trying to quit smoking? Patches, gums and “experts” are useless – without counseling you.

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Have you tried the patch or gum? Did you ask about the success rates when you did? Of course you didn’t. Did you have great expectations? Excellent. That’s what I experts want to hear.

If you’re afraid of trying e-cigarettes, I’m even more enthused. If you didn’t plan correctly, you’re up ten points over the others!

Let us move on quickly before you realize this is futile.


Are patches and gums useless?

Well…. of course not, unless you use them without “counseling“!

That’s also what tobacco companies wanted to hear as they welcomed you back. Also, there’s the public health “expert” sector trying to guilt and shame you, and they miss you as well.

Hang on. Steady yourself. The pharmaceutical companies – you forgot about them, didn’t you? I’ll keep the government out of this blog for time & space.


Did you plan for success?

Of course not. They know better than that.

Feeling a bit dizzy? Outstanding. It’s not your nicotine, you know –  or lack of nicotine intake making you feel that way. It’s them. Public health and organizations make you feel like insinuate you could succeed in your journey to not smoking. Then, of course, you fail.

Yep. Shame on you, too. You didn’t try hard enough! You didn’t plan!!!

Your failure? That’s what they’re counting on. It’s just around the corner.

Knock, knock.

So are your favorite cigarettes.



 

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Still didn’t plan for success?

Go on, now… make a commitment, set a date, get your choice of snake oil patches, gums or prescription medication – and once you didn’t, couldn’t or… well – failure is just a part of the process.

Don’t give up. PLAN!!!! Try again! Keep trying! Sure, the patch & gum have about a 7 % success rate, but – what do you care?

Why plan ahead? That would be silly. Half the time they give these ineffective methods away for free!!!


You will be held accountable.

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Ready?

You get ready, (nowadays, don’t forget your quit app so your friends can get in on the guilt giving sessons as well!)

Your favorite cigarette brand is waiting, your ash trays want to be dirty again.


Folks, this is 2017. Don’t you think by now there’d be a better way?

Smoke. Try to quit. Get “quit smoking aids”. Try. Fall short. Feel guilty and let them pretend to console you, but smoke again. Keep spending your money.

Nice businesses if you find the work in tobacco, public health or the pharmaceutical sectors, eh? Lack of success is their success.

Quit Attempts:

Attempts is what public health and the pharmaceuticals like. The more the merrier. Repeat business is key.

Lets take a quick peek at quit attempts:

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Thank you to The Vaper for the above graphic!


What about side effects?

Public health says “ask your doctor if it’s right for you”. They never mention success rates, and you never ask.

I’ll let you ponder the side effects of the different “government approved” methods here:

Choose your method at the top here: FDA approved method.

Stunned?


What ABOUT nicotine?

Now, consider nicotine. A startling thing, nicotine. A scapegoat for all things tobacco.

Without tobacco and the MAOI’s, it is not addictive.



So, with all the fuss from some pie-filled mouth in California, (Puff-N-Stuff I affectionately call him) there’s this that inspired this impromptu blog….

Before I go stop trying to help you, I’d like to thank Gregory Conley of the American Vaping Association for this screenshot:

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This is why you’re here.

The Shady Link Between Big Tobacco and Nicotine Gum

Related:

Tobacco Industry Research on Nicotine Replacement Therapy: “If Anyone Is Going to Take Away Our Business It Should Be Us”

Oh… yeah, the counseling – like my title said…. Staying in business is hard.

The tobacco companies want to stay in business, and who can blame them. The pharmaceutical companies want to stay in business, and who could blame them?

I’ll blame tobacco control experts. Screw ’em. They know better.

Like my title said…. “experts”…are useless without patches & gum to offer. Don’t get me wrong – they mean well – they’ve got good intentions.

Don’t get me started on the Government tonight, they just want you to smoke.

Staying in business with any sense of relevance or truth, is hard.


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Tobacco Harm Reduction

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I didn’t quit smoking. I didn’t stop smoking. I switched to a less harmful alternative. I chose to try a “cig-a-like” and I didn’t want a cigarette within 48 hours, and my wife chose to do the same thing.

My journey was no different than most others who accidentally found an alternative to smoking that actually worked with no withdrawal and no noticeable side effects.


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After more than four years, I’ve found myself in a cesspool of adults –  specifically professionals with titles and “I love me” walls – who pretend to have no common sense.

I take that back, there are side effects to not smoking with my chosen path.

Reading. LOTS of reading.

Research. Finding answers myself.

Asking questions and “networking”. I have found that if I don’t know or understand, someone will, without fail, answer my question both truthfully and in a way I will understand.

Blogging. To get what I do learn & understand out to others who hopefully will find it – and understand it.

Twitter. Immense knowledge and reference from worldwide advocates.

Questioning.

I am constantly questioning everything I thought I knew I was told about smoking.


Tobacco Harm Reduction.

Health and government organizations don’t subscribe to tobacco harm reduction. With them, you will find cessation.

According to Merriam-Webster, “cessation” is to stop.

  1. :  a temporary or final ceasing (as of action) :  stop mutually agreed to a cessation of fighting


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What “organizations” and government are doing is promoting a highly profitable and repeatable business.

The vulnerability of someone with great expectations isn’t considered, it is mocked.

They wrongfully blame the consumer. They blatantly blame “nicotine“.

What they “give away” are products made by pharmaceutical companies and an air of authority, combined with an illusion of an answer to help someone stop smoking.

The reality of these methods and the failure rates is dismal and never discussed.


Entertain yourself.

Call a quitline and ask them about the success rates with the patch or gum.

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Success?

Well, I’ll let the display of an “expert” organization speak for themselves below:

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What you do not see promoted is tobacco harm reduction.


For Life.

For the record, I am not against the patch, gum, lozenge, hypnosis, a self-help book, accupuncture, heat not burn, snus, smokeless tobacco, e-cigarettes, and other alternatives.

Only if used with extreme caution and understanding the well documented side effects, medication is also avaible to help someone choose to stop smoking.

I am, however against giving improper or bias information to those who don’t know any better and rely on “trusted” organizations, public health & government officials.

I will do this until I can’t type, call, scream, tweet or blog any longer.


Think of the possibilities.

I am a consumer. I have no ulterior motive.

I take that back, I have ulterior motive. The choice of smoker, the non-smoker and education of the consumer.

I have proudly joined the Board of Directors of THR4Life (Tobacco Harm Reduction 4 Life) along with 5 others:

Kevin Price, Lindsay Stroud, Skip Murray, Jenny Ho and David Goerlitz.

This group of individuals are strong, opinionated, intelligent and, without question, looking out for the consumer.

Join our facebook page here:

Tobacco Harm Reduction 4 Life

 


 

Tobacco Harm Reduction 4 Life is are a Public Charity 501c3 and we are Tax-Deductible for bequests, devises, transfers or gifts under Section 2055, 2106, or 2522 of the IRS.

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As David Goerlitz has said, “The gloves are off”.

 


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Regulate. Restrict. Tax. Ban. Taxing E-Cigarettes Like Tobacco.


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The all powerful, all knowing Offices of Management And Budget have the distinct decision of deeming regulations over e-cigarettes.

“Budget”.  Well. What does THAT have to do with e-cigarettes and the country? What does that have to do with the FDA (I thought they were the “authority”) and deeming regulations?

It’s about health, right? It’s about children, right?


If you DON’T know what I’m babbling about, you need to brush up on your information overload by going HERE to CASAA, and HERE immediately afterwards. You don’t even have to read this blog.


Regulate:

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1. to control or direct by a rule, principle, method, etc

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Restrict:

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1. to confine or keep within limits, as of space, action, choice, intensity, or quantity.

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Tax:

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1. a sum of money demanded by a government for its support or for specific facilities or services, levied upon incomes, property, sales, etc.
2. a burdensome charge, obligation, duty, or demand.

verb (used with object)

3. to demand a tax from (a person, business, etc.).

  1. to demand a tax in consideration of the possession or occurrence of (income, goods, sales, etc.), usually in proportion to the value of money involved.

4. to lay a burden on; make serious demands on: to tax one’s resources.

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UntitledWAIT!  NEVER MIND! We disassociated ourselves from that bill!

TAXES were taken out of it!

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Now it does no good?

I thought it was about YOUTH!

Public HEALTH!

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Guess NOT!

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Ban:

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1. to prohibit, forbid, or bar; interdict:

2. the act of prohibiting by law; interdiction.


They can’t BAN them. Well…. lean closer to your screen. Countries already have.

Regulations, restrictions, taxes & bans are world WIDE. Here, and HERE.


According to the World Health Associations Margaret Chan, at W.H.O. – this organization does NOT like ecigs, but likes regulations of them ….

W.H.O., HOWEVER DOES like money. It’s a win-win solution!

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This, was added 12/12/15 by me from the much admired Brainy Furball.
This isn’t just the United States. This is worldwide.
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Speaking of MARGARET Chan

More from Robert Innes:

When Collusion Is Profitable For Parties – All Six of Them!


I certainly do not believe they will “ban” them in the United States. They have had since 2009 to stew on this. They’ve had PLENTY of time to “deem” them tobacco.

THEN, they have the wording so they can TAX them like tobacco. I’ll get back to that in a minute.

See Steve and his timeline of e-cigarettes in the United States


See, at first, they were probably thought of as a novel idea. E-cigarettes weren’t a threat.

As they evolved into 2nd & 3rd generation styles, they were making a huge dent in cash flow.

Disrupting many aspects of cash flow.


Noticeable in 2000, Pharmaceutical companies feel it –  see smoking cessation aids sales drop.

Pharmaceutical Companies are really feeling it in 2014 in this article:

Nicotine patch, gum sales drop with rise of electronic cigarettes

As E-cigarette sales rose E-cigarette Sales Rising 


Tobacco Companies were going down in 2011… and still are as of September of last year, according to Business Insider:

Watch The US Slowly But Surely Become A Nation Of Nonsmokers


Well.

This is exciting, Kevin. There must be more! IS there more?

I’m glad you asked that !

I’m not sure who said “e-cigs are disruptive”, but – here, take a break – read Chris Price’s view on e-cigarettes as a disruptive technology.


11/18 update:

Stanton Glantz… and his submission to the world of the FDA is here.


 

Guess who else is pissed about disrupting their cash flow?

Organizations. Lots of them. They depend on lots and lots of funding to sustain themselves. Grants. Automatic payments. Money.

E-cigarettes are taking that away. They don’t like that.

How convenient.


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Finally, the United States Government – and other tax collecting entities. Ever notice when you bought a pack of smokes how the sign may say “cigarettes sold at state minimum”?  No? Me either.



This does not help the Government – to lose all this money. Pharmaceutical companies are calling their “friendly” senators.

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Evidently, the group ASCAN

American Cancer Society Action Network –

already knows Congress actually works for them – not “the people”.

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Upstanding *cough, cough*  “Tobacco Control” *cough –  experts are also involved.

They want what’s best for us.

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And the Government, all by itself, is caving in.

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The Government is missing their money.

They want it taxed like tobacco.

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They NEED e-cigarettes regulated

as TOBACCO. So they can TAX it.

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It is NOT tobacco.


But that is what they want it to be.

It won’t include their FRIENDS

“APPROVED” nicotine products that we’ve tried

and for the most part, DON’T WORK.


Those products are derived from magical unicorn farts, not tobacco.

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If you’ve read this far – remember

The FDA has deeming regulations in progress at the moment.


I need you to be ANGRY.


Support the organizations on this blog. Talk to people. CALL your congress/senators.

Write, email. hold up signs.

Call your media friends if you have any. Get the support of your doctors, schools, YELL.

Educate anyone you CAN.

TELL them this is about children having family members NO LONGER using tobacco.


TELL THEM this IS about HEALTH.


TELL them e-cigarettes take us AWAY from smoking.


TELL THEM it is NOT about NICOTINE.


We need a SWIFT and abrupt UPROAR worldwide.



Get mad. They’re taxing you because they miss their money.

It’s not even DEEMED tobacco, and it’s already happening in the United States.


You need to be ANGRY.


Go here and do something about that.

Then go here as well.


Stop ACCEPTING what is not true or real.

Nicotine is NOT TOBACCO. They want it deemed tobacco

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for loss of revenue they thought would LAST FOREVER. 

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E-Cigarettes are NOT acceptable to be part of their PONZI SCHEME.

WE stopped smoking. They WANT us to stop smoking. Now they don’t like that.

Less smoking, less revenue. It’s a PONZI scheme.


A documentary is coming, and not soon enough – (no rush, guys & gals) 🙂

about all of this:

A Billion Lives


Recommended reading:

How Wall Street Tobacco Deals Left States With Billions in Toxic Debt

Vaping Claimed First Victim One Year Ago

Tax Hikers Focused On 2016 Election

New CDC Data – More than 9 MILLION Adults Vape Regularly In The United States

Vaping For Tax Freedom

Burdensome vaping regulation about revenue, not health

DC budget would extend 70 percent tobacco tax to vapor products, e-cigarettes

Increased Tobacco Taxes Are Not the Answer

Mine:

Taxing Thoughts, A Ponzi Scheme.

Please Keep Smoking! Plausible Deniability, An Incestuous Relationship.

Without Integrity: Tobacco Harm Reduction In The U.S.A.

Lying Bastards


Some on the survey mentioned black market. Some proclaimed they’d do it themselves.
The only concern I’d have with that is – what about the current smokers who don’t know how or are afraid?
What will they do if e-cigarettes as we know them today with all generations – are considered illegal?
What about THIS lady?

Here are comments

 “Real People ~ Real Answers”

from the latest survey, unedited on question #41:

If e-cigarettes are taxed / regulated as tobacco I believe:

 “Real People ~ Real Answers”


I make my own juice and would continue. I have a 20 year supply of nicotine in my freezer.
Friday, Oct 9th 10:52AM

One point, there would be less motivation, not no motivation. Because e-cigs have more to offer.
Thursday, Oct 8th 5:13PM

With no incentive to switch over why would they?
Thursday, Oct 8th 11:23AM

it would be a heinous grievance against an entire community to make this change at this point in the game
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 2:03PM

That would be the worst thing you could do; limit the availability by keeping it out of a person’s financial reach.
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 1:23PM

There would be a huge black market. I do not foresee myself paying taxes on my ejuice. lol.
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 11:29AM

Other quit smoking products are not taxed, at least not in Sweden or Estonia, to tax e-cigarette liquids would be insane.
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 8:18AM

If they ban or regulate them to be as expencive as gums and pathes, the are making a huge mistake, a crime to public health.
Monday, Sep 14th 2:54AM

The cost savings was the biggest stimulation to try e-cigs.
Wednesday, Aug 19th 12:51AM

Apart from the obvious fact there is no legal reason to tax as tobacco, it would reduce the likely hood of some people trying them. As prices would be ridiculous it would also kill most of the industry that is already in place.
Sunday, Aug 16th 3:11AM

Ecigs will just become less appealing to new users, people established will find a way around anything, there will be a new black market to exploit.
Saturday, Aug 8th 7:53AM

Understand the patches, gum and inhalers are over the counter now and greatly reduced in price. The FDA a few yrs ago announced that there was no harm in nicotine useage from these products. Other than monetary gain for pharma companies, I can’t figure out why the fed and state gov’s would ban/restrict the use of vaping…..Except that individuals might be influenced with “donations”.
Thursday, Aug 6th 2:59AM

I would not have a problem, worst comes to the worst ill not use nicotine, and just mix my own as i do now!
Monday, Aug 3rd 4:25AM

It would be like the main goal of tobacco companies and the government would be money not my or anyone else’s health. This includes non-smokers because as a smoker they will inhale bad stuff, even if it’s 3rd hand smoke — which as a smoker they can get from my hair, clothes, home, car, etc. even if they are never ever around me while I actually smoke.
Sunday, Aug 2nd 8:00PM

I make my own juice so that better not get more expencive!
Sunday, Aug 2nd 7:18PM


There would definitely be less motivation for smokers to try them. Money and health were the two reasons I tried them. It would be completely irresponsible to tax them at the same rate.
Saturday, Aug 1st 7:59PM

It might slow down the Vaping movement, but it would continue to grow. A Giant Black Market would arise.
Saturday, Aug 1st 8:16PM

I have the right to make choices about my health. I choose to vape and to be tobacco- and smoke-free.
Saturday, Aug 1st 6:35PM

I think e-cigs should be taxed like any other product, but NOT like tobacco. Tobacco is taxed heavily because of the healthcare costs smoking produces. Vaping is not that dangerous, so it shouldn’t be taxed like tobacco.
Saturday, Aug 1st 6:25PM

I can still afford it and would still vape, but it might easily deter others.
Saturday, Aug 1st 4:02PM

Criminal, but probably inevitable
Saturday, Aug 1st 4:34PM

Not sure how the could justify taxing e cigarettes or e liquids. Other than vat
If e liquids where heavily taxed then more people would start diy mixing which in my opinion could be more dangerous if not knowledgable.
Friday, Jul 31st 6:56PM

A lot of time, saving money is a big factor for quitting cig.
Tuesday, Jul 28th 3:02PM

If they tax it, it wont affect me because i mix my own… Mother fukka’s are so gready!
Monday, Jul 27th 12:59PM

if the taxes become outrageous then no new person is gonna bother trying and if the choices are limited then vaping will be no more successful than the patch or gum 🙁
Sunday, Jul 26th 4:30PM

I am against any tax on e-cigarettes, it already costs to much for most people especially the ones that have moved from regular to e-cigs because they could no longer afford regular cigs.
Sunday, Jul 26th 1:11AM

As a machinist, I can make my own mech mods and attys. I build my own attys, I don’t use regulated power supplies, and I make my own juice. They can’t hurt me… but they can certainly have a negative effect on others, both new and experienced.
Saturday, Jul 25th 10:50PM

they are in no way, shape, or form – tobacco, stop trying to tax them as such!
Saturday, Jul 25th 7:37PM

It will be a sad sad day when this happens. The biggest fear I have is government taking away what has clearly saved my life.
Saturday, Jul 25th 10:15AM

the goverments want controll for the money it rakes in they just want their greedy little mitts on it. i think alot of people would go back to smoking, thats not good
Wednesday, Jul 22nd 8:47AM

Politicians refuse to let a source of revenue lie dormant, peoples health is secondary
Tuesday, Jul 21st 11:52AM

I’ll make my own coils, my own juice – not going to tax me to hell and back.
Sunday, Jul 19th 9:50AM

I dont think taxes would stop people from vaping. I would not stop. But it will just weaken vaping and make it a bit less attractive, especially for new vapers.
Sunday, Jul 19th 1:49AM

black market, nuff said.
big tobacco and their croneys can GFTS!!
Saturday, Jul 18th 4:31PM

I see no need to tax ecigarettes. We pay sales tax on this stuff, isn’t that enough for the state? It’s not my fault if the states depend on funds from a source that kills it’s consumers and needs to find money elsewhere now that they are earning less revenue do to people making a healthy switch. We should be rewarded for switching to vape since it’s a healthier alternative, not punished.
Saturday, Jul 18th 2:46PM

If the flavors are restricted or taken away, I wouldn’t be able to keep vaping. I’ve tried different tobacco flavors…even the tobacco flavor made by Marlboro…they all taste bad, even the menthol.
Friday, Jul 17th 6:24PM

It would also create a huge black market of which i would be going to.
Friday, Jul 17th 6:19PM

Motivation is multifactorial. I was actually motivated to buy my first ecig to replace the nicotine while I had a rabid ex-smoker in the house working for me. Once I tried it I felt I could use it to give up smoking for health. Money was never a motivation for me. “Is it cheaper” is usually the first question people ask me so it’s obviously a factor for most people.
Wednesday, Jul 15th 6:33PM

I hope it will be recognized as the help people need to quit smoking and NOT taxed.
Tuesday, Jul 14th 12:23PM

A black market could develop
Tuesday, Jul 14th 5:28AM

Of course, it wouldn’t result in people not trying e-cigarettes at all, just because they’re not cheaper than tobacco anymore. That’s not the point. But it would increase the threshold for people to “just give it a try and see if it works”. If, at the time, a pack of cigarettes was 5 EUR and that eGo-T kit would have been 10 EUR, I might have hesitated to just give it a try. It might be a good idea to tax nicotine concentrate a bit more, so people have some incentive to drop their nicotine consumption or go down to 0mg – after all, a caffeine addiction is still an addiction, too.
Sunday, Jul 12th 9:03PM

i will import my goods meaning the UK will lose out on VAT.
Monday, Jul 13th 7:29PM

It would be criminal.
Monday, Jul 13th 5:24PM

They are NOT a tobacco product…so they should not be taxed as such
Monday, Jul 13th 2:11PM

There is absolutely no justification for treating vaping products the same as tobacco products.
Monday, Jul 13th 2:56PM

Taxes on tobacco were to offset the health care cost, vaping should be encouraged to help rid all of their need for tobacco
Monday, Jul 13th 12:55PM

Dear politicians, do NOT regulate it into a black market. I, however already have my black market sources set up. We ex-smokers ain’t playin’!!!
Monday, Jul 13th 1:27PM

The e-cig users I know would never go back to tobacco – even with a tax on e-cigs. I would complain about the tax but would never go back to cigarettes.
Monday, Jul 13th 10:50AM

It would increase costs for no good reason, assuming they aren’t made with tobacco.
Monday, Jul 13th 10:29AM

The fact that they are less expensive in the long run, combined with the fact that there is a big expense at the start, encouraging commitment to trying to stay with them instead of going back when it gets hard, makes e-cigarettes more likely to help smokers quit smoking for good. They should not be taxed like cigarettes are.
Monday, Jul 13th 8:33AM

Vaping is not smoking. Vaping is the solution to the problem of smoking.
Monday, Jul 13th 8:53AM

i think its mainly a matter of principles and semantics. foodies generally arent bulimic, it doesnt mean the same thing so why should they be put in the same basket? I am not a smoker anymore so why should I be opressed as one? yes, i said opressed. that being said im not an economy analyst
Monday, Jul 13th 8:45AM

everything that we as people like get taxed on everything ,if they tax us on vaping equipment lots of people would not try and probably never quit ,I find that disgraceful
Monday, Jul 13th 8:22AM

People in the e-cig industry already regulate their own products to a much higher standard than most other industries..
Monday, Jul 13th 7:10AM

it would be the government wanting money to make up for there loss no better than drug dealers
Monday, Jul 13th 5:56AM

Trying to make vaping less accessible irresponsible, dangerous and will cost lives.
Monday, Jul 13th 3:42AM

I am fairly confident I will never go back to cigarettes. They are disgusting.
Monday, Jul 13th 3:08AM

Never going back
Sunday, Jul 12th 9:27PM

How do you tax something as tobacco when there is no tobacco in it? Do they tax lighters and ashtrays like tobacco? Do they tax nicotine patches and gums like tobacco?
Sunday, Jul 12th 4:06PM

Some tax will be involved it’s the American way, but should Never be treated the same…
Sunday, Jul 12th 1:57PM

they should be taxed and regulated to an extent tobacco taxs are out of the question
Sunday, Jul 12th 2:32PM

If/when the e-cig industry gets taxed at the same level as the tobacco industry, you will see less motivation for borderline smokers/vapers to switch to vaping, in their minds it would be like; Why bother to smoke and vape, its gonna cost me about the same either way, I liked smoking, I’m gonna go back to smoking. Another thing I think you will see is the vape industry go underground, black market kinda thing. Online sales with little to no regulation what so ever will be the way to go. With some of the larger vendors become even larger and richer, and some of the smaller and mid size companies will expand and get larger as well. All the rest, the small fry will either get bought up by the other vendors, or will simply go out of business. It is scary to think that the politicians have the e-cig industry by the short and curlies, for what reason? GREED plain and simple.
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:14PM

We are not using tobacco and vaporizers and eliquid should not be controlled and taxed the way tobacco is. Smoking cigarettes is deadly. Vaping is not.
Sunday, Jul 12th 2:17PM

Small vape shops would not survive the costs.
Sunday, Jul 12th 2:04PM

I hope when regulations come and tax the products, they consider the fact most of our industry is comprised of businesses with 10 people or less. Please regulate us as such, we are not a giant corporation.
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:40PM

Its probably gonna happen
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:55PM

This question should be split. Taxed=it would be totally unfair to vapers. Regulated=it would protect vapers.
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:23PM

I might go back to smoking because of the price … or go black market with health risks
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:39PM

How is punishing someone for choosing a healthier
lifestyle sane?
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:41PM

The prices would say rocket and people wouldn’t be able to afford it. If am item that is $120 and say gets taxed 70% like Washington DC the price goes up to $205 and that’s just the tax let alone what the shop needs to make a profit so like $230 alot of people including my self can’t afford that.
Sunday, Jul 12th 9:54AM

Those in charge would lower the percentage of niccotine in eliqiud , and we would be stuck with those silly cigarrete look a like e-cigs!
Sunday, Jul 12th 10:31AM

This is the only strategy that will get the government away from criticizing the industry.
Sunday, Jul 12th 10:40AM

I believe that the regulations for the E-cig industry will tower over the tobacco, in that there are over 4100 hazardous chemicals, 57 of them are known cancer causers in each puff of a cigarette. There is no comparison between the 2.
Sunday, Jul 12th 7:20AM

There will become a black market for them.
Sunday, Jul 12th 8:21AM

It would destroy the industry and hurt countless people!
Sunday, Jul 12th 5:38AM

Vaping saves lives compared to tobacco.
Sunday, Jul 12th 6:01AM

Money is one of the big motivating factors, I believe.
Sunday, Jul 12th 3:45AM

taxing like cigarettes would drive people back to smoking as prices would be crazy high as they are its not a cheep alternative now
Sunday, Jul 12th 4:32AM

Taxing and regulating e-cigarettes the same as combustable tobacco products while keeping those on the market would result in people who could otherwise switch not doing so. Ultimately that would be detrimental to public health. Some people cannot or do not want to abstain from nicotine, and as adults should have the right to determine for themselves the form they wish to take their nicotine. However, those forms which are less harmful, or perceived to be less harmful to the individual user should be encouraged by less taxation and fewer regulations than combustible products with known health effects.
Sunday, Jul 12th 3:06AM

This would be a public health travesty.
Epic stupidity.
Saturday, Jul 11th 9:58PM

I don’t believe it should be regulated or taxed as a tobacco because it is not. Comparing apples to oranges…
Saturday, Jul 11th 9:18PM

if they made if so I cannot purchase the ingredients I need, like nicotine to make my ejuice. I would probably just go to zero nic. But MANY people would return to smoking. If I could not make zero nic ejuice I would probably fall into smoking rapidly.
Saturday, Jul 11th 7:34PM

just be a dangerous health question
Saturday, Jul 11th 6:32PM

Which would suit big tobacco and big pharmaceutical companies producing patches and gum for us all to rely on them.
Saturday, Jul 11th 1:23PM

could become cost prohibitive.
Saturday, Jul 11th 12:07PM

The cost is often the first carrot to tempt people to make the switch, and any impediment to getting people to stop using traditional tobacco products is a very, very bad idea (except for Big Tobacco).
Saturday, Jul 11th 8:07AM

I would just by juice in parts and mix my own
Saturday, Jul 11th 4:21AM

This is about me not smoking cigarettes, not about taxes, if the government taxed e cigarettes I would be very disappointed , that would make a tax look like a tax grab not about a choice of the lessor of 2 evils.
Saturday, Jul 11th 2:57AM

Would make me hate tobacco and government even more. Astonishing how the greatest cause of preventable death in the world is still legal and on the market. People have voting power and the more people that take side with the viability of PV’s, the more influence there will be to prevent this from happening.
Saturday, Jul 11th 1:13AM

No matter what I’ll will not go back to tobacco , if I had to I would just completely quit it all , just have to replace my time with exercise , painting. Let’s see them tax that !!
Saturday, Jul 11th 12:59AM

I would still vape
Friday, Jul 10th 10:31PM

There are smokers and there are vapers seldom do I see both
Friday, Jul 10th 10:42PM

It is not tobacco.
Friday, Jul 10th 10:34PM

You cannot just pick up an ecig and vape. There is so much you need to learn to work the equipment properly and find a taste that you enjoy and a nicotine level that you need. Vape shops need to be able to explain various products they have. People need to be able to sample the e-liquid before they buy or they will just be wasting money on things that don’t work and just stick to smoking because it is so much easier.
Friday, Jul 10th 10:48PM

It will open the doors to subpar ejuices and mock mods, tanks accessories, black market. No one wants toxic chems in their ejuice, no one wants sub par Mods, tanks.
Friday, Jul 10th 3:04PM

There´s allways a choise not to pay too much. Though it would ruin business locally (the few left, most of them allready went abroad)
Thursday, Jul 9th 2:23PM

While many of us (myself included) would continue to vape regardless (because we are capable of DIY building everything necessary from devices, to vaporizers, to e-liquids) this would stop thousands or more from being able to successfully kick the smoking habit!
Wednesday, Jul 8th 1:22PM

If categorized as a tobacco product, people may think they are just as harmful. Also, the fact that ecigs are much cheaper is a huge factor in people deciding to try them, and ultimately quit cigarettes all together.
Wednesday, Jul 8th 12:12PM

Vaping is not a tobacco product.
Wednesday, Jul 8th 1:33AM

It would be an unconscionable effort by the government to recoup lost revenues from the cigarette taxes that they have profited from to date. History will reveal the great lies and deceit of the tobacco vilification of our semi recent political climate regarding tobacco use, and the huge government profits gained by this slanted social agenda.
Tuesday, Jul 7th 10:22PM

I wouldn’t be going back to smoking but it would effect those who currently smoke.
Tuesday, Jul 7th 6:42PM

I think regulation would be better for safety, but taxing like tobacco would be bad.
Tuesday, Jul 7th 2:37PM

I would start mixing my own e liquid and buy hardware from overseas or from ‘vaping underground’
Monday, Jul 6th 9:57AM

Doesn’t bear thinking about.
Sunday, Jul 5th 10:54AM

Make your own E juice it’s easier then most people think.
Saturday, Jul 4th 4:45PM

And obviously – the only people to gain from this is the government.
Wednesday, Jul 1st 11:58PM

In countries where sale of e-liquids containing nicotine, this would in effect legalize those liquids. This of course means, that the regulation is not completely skewed to not reflect the amounts people use.
Tuesday, Jun 30th 7:18PM

There would be less motivation for smokers to try them. Many vapers would go back to smoking. It would be likely for the emergence of a ‘black market’ with products really dangerous to public health similar to the trade in illicit alcohol.
Tuesday, Jun 30th 2:55PM

Regulation also has the issue that it would basically kill all the BETTER devices, mods, atomizers etc. and cig-a-likes would invade the markets which almost everyone knows are not effective / satisfying at all. Also one of the main things compared to smoking has always been SAVING MONEY while having some “bad habbit”. Taxing and regulation would make everything much more expensive than what it is and would also kill smaller businesses and give e-cigarette industry to tobacco companies who have the money.
Tuesday, Jun 30th 12:43PM

One of the reasons i switched over to vaping is that its a LOT cheaper than smoking( atleast in Finland). Roughly 5€ a pack of smokes, 1 pack a day is 150€ a month. I ordered liquids that i mix myself, cost roughly 80€, and it lasts me 4-6 months.
Tuesday, Jun 30th 10:29AM

No proven harm = NO SIN TAX. They can tax it when they calculate harm and tax-payer burden in financial terms, but it should also reflect the savings/reduction in harm from cigarette use. A decrease in sin tax revenue from tobacco is NOT a reason to tax as they are supposed to be collected to cover associated social costs of cigarette use, which would drop along with cigarette use.
Tuesday, Jun 30th 9:07AM

…and cause many many more people to die unnecessarily from tobacco related illnesses.
Tuesday, Jun 30th 12:22AM

Vaping is a safer form of smoking and most definitely prolongs people’s well-being should they switch to vaping over tobacco, therefore should not be taxed
Monday, Jun 29th 4:42PM

Taxation already exists in the form of VAT on purchases. If taxation is increased I will shop more from abroad to avoid paying the UK Government monies I do not believe are justifiable.
Monday, Jun 29th 5:51AM

I don’t think I would go back, but I would probably look at untaxed sources
Sunday, Jun 28th 10:19PM

Flavours and nic strength wouldn’t be such a choice either. Not to mention finding a device for each individual.
Sunday, Jun 28th 5:53PM

It would be likely to reduce access to non-smokers wanting to vape. That being said, this is a low number of people who it would affect.
Sunday, Jun 28th 2:35PM

They should NOT be taxed – end of.
Sunday, Jun 28th 11:27AM

Sales tax alone is income to the government, sales that otherwise would not be there. Anything more is just government greed and abuse of governmental authority and power. There should not even BE a “sin tax”. Furthermore overtaxing will destroy the industry and put it firmly in the hands of Big Tobacco.
Sunday, Jun 28th 11:00AM

#1. Some people will always smoke cigarettes.
#2. It depends on how high the tax is. If it is
less than cigarettes we have a chance at
introducing them to smokers to save money (and
improve their health)
#3 If the tax is comparable to cigarettes, then
we approach the smoker on change of lifestyle,
improved health, better living environment,
etc.
Sunday, Jun 28th 10:46AM

Very sad day.
Sunday, Jun 28th 9:46AM

Some teens have a passing interest in e-cigarettes, but are far more interested in smoking. One of the biggest draws is saving money over smoking – health is a far second.
Sunday, Jun 28th 8:24AM

In the UK we pay VAT on vaping anyaway so there is no real need to tax.
Sunday, Jun 28th 9:12AM

I would find a black market
Sunday, Jun 28th 7:00AM

While I would never smoke tobacco again, I know many who aren’t far enough along the quitting process and would revert to smoking.
Sunday, Jun 28th 12:36AM

I think the government wants use to smoke as they get a lot of money from smokers. I am sad to say that but I think it is true.
Sunday, Jun 28th 12:01AM

I’m one of the few people that enjoy saying, “I don’t know” when asked something I don’t know the answer to
Saturday, Jun 27th 11:45PM

If e-cigarettes are taxed and regulated the same way tobacco is, this would cause a lot of small businesses to be shut down because they wouldn’t be able to afford the measures needed to meet these absurd regulations, or they would have to upcharge their products so much that it would be MORE expensive than cigarettes. This would put an end to innovative vaping technologies, creative thinking, and ultimately drive vapers back to smoking!
Saturday, Jun 27th 7:23PM

ofcourse, tax it, and I’ll buy tax free online internationally thankyou very much, but if vaping was made to cost anything close to the price of smoking, it would be a complete disaster, it would give smokers no real motivation to vape vs smoke.
Saturday, Jun 27th 7:10PM

It wouldn’t effect me because I DIY.
Saturday, Jun 27th 7:02PM

This is where the government needs to be locked out!
Saturday, Jun 27th 6:28PM

My shop would close the day after that tax went into effect.
Saturday, Jun 27th 5:22PM

It would be a crime! People deserve the chance and it isn’t tobacco so don’t tax it like it is. Part of quitting tobacco was to save me money.
Saturday, Jun 27th 3:05PM

Taxed like Tobacco would deter people from wanting to try it because they’re paying the same tax on vapor products as they would cigarettes.. At that point it would only come down to the people who would really want to stop, and need the alternative.
Saturday, Jun 27th 2:46PM

This is perhaps the biggest concern I have right now. I want to see anyone who wants to try e-cigs to have the chance!
Saturday, Jun 27th 2:57PM

Price is driving a good deal of my business. Taxes will hurt.
Saturday, Jun 27th 2:27PM

I originally tried it because I wanted to save money. I really had no expectation of quitting since nothing I’ve tried had worked. If they cost the same as tobacco cigarettes, less people may be inclined to try them. I quit over a year ago and the only reason I’m not saving ugh money is because it has become a hobby collecting gear and new devices.
Saturday, Jun 27th 2:37PM

Taxation would mean more people keeping on smoking and not trying egigs
Saturday, Jun 27th 2:33PM

It would lessen the incentive for tobacco users to switch to vaping
Saturday, Jun 27th 11:55AM

nothing would change except pricing
Saturday, Jun 27th 10:13AM

And it would be illegal in France to tax them as tobacco or even near.
Saturday, Jun 27th 6:50AM

It would deter new people to vaping, but to those of us that are experienced it wont. How are you going to tax pg vg and flavor? It is really easy to make, coils wick and all. That’s what’s driving everyone insane. They can tax the disposables, but no one buys them now anyway.
Saturday, Jun 27th 7:27AM

I am lucky, I can make mods, atties and juice. Most will not have this luxury.
Saturday, Jun 27th 6:49AM

It would seriously harm vaping and could destroy it.
Saturday, Jun 27th 5:27AM

I would stop vaping and I wouldn’t use any tobacco products.
Saturday, Jun 27th 1:40AM

It can already be inaccessible financially, I feel further taxation, particularly in the ranges I’ve seen proposed, would be downright discriminatory to lower income individuals.
Saturday, Jun 27th 1:19AM

I’d be pissed off!
Saturday, Jun 27th 1:00AM

we will make a black market,no thanks on your tax..
Saturday, Jun 27th 12:32AM

I personally would try to find a black market solution to avoid pointless taxation and stealth vape in public places.
Friday, Jun 26th 11:21PM

Primarily, the majority of folks that would still vape are those that have truly experienced how bad smoking can harm the body.
Friday, Jun 26th 11:33PM

I think it would have to be fairly draconian for me to consider going back to smoking. Will undoubtedly slow take up and discourage switching though, which would be a big fail for public health.
Friday, Jun 26th 4:54PM

I can make literally everything I need myself, except for the nicotine extract. If it’s taxed to hell, I’ll just be planning semi-annual trips to Mexico.
Just sayin’.
Friday, Jun 26th 1:43AM

I won’t be going back to smoking
Thursday, Jun 25th 8:08PM

It depends on the regulations set. If it was controlled by the cigarette industry I really do not know what I would do.
Thursday, Jun 25th 1:59PM

If you treat it like tobacco it will have a stigma of tobacco this may put people off from trying also as money sometimes can be a factor taxing it would also not help it should be treated as a consumer product with some regulations ie 18 age restriction with support of health officials as a way of stopping using tobacco
Thursday, Jun 25th 7:42AM

The government only cares about your tax money and will do whatever it takes to get it. The health argument is just a political goto strategy.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 11:28PM

I would learn to make my own ejuice!
Wednesday, Jun 24th 11:29PM

stupidest decision on the planet
Wednesday, Jun 24th 11:09PM

it will assist with closing local shops. And I wll not buy online, so therefore could push me back to smoking tobacco
Wednesday, Jun 24th 4:37PM

Flavourings are used in food as well and would be very hard to tax, nicotine and vg/pg would be hard to tax as well and can be stored in freezers for years to come.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 5:04PM

People will continue to smoke, even if ecigs were being given away.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 12:29PM

SIN TAX OK
CIGARETTE TYPE TAX NOT OK
Wednesday, Jun 24th 1:49PM

To treat e-cig users as smokers, and e-cig products as tobacco products, infringes on our rights. It is ignorant and dishonest. it makes me question the people who have been elected into power and the industries pulling their strings.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 9:11AM

Taxed or regulated as tobacco, would be seen as “being the same as tobacco” – even though vaping CLEARLY is not smoking.
The same as banning people to walk around in public with water bottles, since no one can tell if its really water in that bottle, or maybe vodka/gin?
There has to be an incentive to switch to vaping – other than improving health. Harm reduction and harm reversal seems to be the main goals of switching, and the most smokers are low-middle income people, that really wants to save a penny and get on with a life not chained to smoking cigarettes. If tobacco/vaping were to be taxed and regulated even stricter, with higher prices – that would only benefit the big companies and the governments … the smokers/vapers would still buy the products (liquids/e-vapes/cigarettes) even if the price went skyhigh, and the rest of the family (the children) will be left to pay the ultimate sacrifice: What ever money is left, after the vaping/smoking products has been bought, is what is left for food, clothes a.s.o.
Tobacco/vaping gear are “BARE NECESSITIES” – or “need to have” – food and clothes will (by smokers) be seen as “nice to have”.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 10:48AM

My circle of novice users and I will continue vaping because we have a large amount of private stock to last us for 10 years or more. Everyone should do that. someone who Taxes a healthier alternative over tobacco does not earn respect and should never win.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 6:12AM

Personally, I will NOT go back to smoking tobacco, whatever the law is. If necessary, I’ll become a criminal – after being a good citizen for almost 50 years.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 4:31AM

in my country it would be twice as expensive as
smoking is so it will be harder to get people to
switch over to the amazing world of vaping sadly
Wednesday, Jun 24th 6:10AM

Governments would also be attaching their revenues to a variable source which their motivation is to see diminish. This is the very definition of fiscal insanity and must be resisted, not for the health of the vaping industry but for the health of the population as a whole.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 12:21AM

cost is always a factor but if they cost the same I would still use my vape rather than smoking because it has allowed me to ween off nicotine
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 7:49PM

for myself, i don’t care. I build my own coils, i can DIY for my liquid to avoid taxes. But it will prevent some smokers from trying and that’s a shame.
Unfortunatly, Taxes may be the only thing that will make governments support the ecig. If they can get their money from the ecig, as much as with the regular ones, and with less health issues….believe me, if this happens, you will see a bunch of officials and media praising the holy ecig…
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 5:33PM

I believe I would totally quit. We are taxed to death now.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 6:28PM

The states would reap the profits the small store would close and people will go back to tobacco use because it will be cheaper.( i can guarantee that) people will be dying from smoking more and more. This is not the right answer
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 5:24PM

You can’t regulate something like tobacco if there isn’t tobacco in it.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 3:27PM

..in Canada to classify a product as something that it is not, for the purpose of regulation/taxation.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 10:23AM

For me, my e-cig is a health product, why would they tax something that’s saving them spending money to treat me for health issues?
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 1:06PM

If ecigs are treated the same as tobacco, it will deter smokers from switching. If it comes to the point that ecigs are no longer available or so expensive I couldn’t afford them, I’d go straight to the black market without any guilt whatsoever.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 12:17PM

Treatments for disease (tobacco addiction) should not be taxed. Sin tax was placed on tobacco to offset the healthcare costs. There is no evidence that vaping causes any harm to health or increased cost to healthcare. If anything reducing smoking reduces health consequences. We should be handing vapes out in hospitals & healthcare facilities
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 1:00PM

Just like when cigarette taxes increased and we saw an increase of tobacco trafficking, we will see the industry move underground. And probably with a lot more success than tobacco ever had, as it’s not that difficult to do much of this stuff yourself.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 10:32AM

Before I started vaping I was spending 500$ or more a month between the wife and myself. After starting vaping its half that per month, however, I do splurge on new mods 🙂
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 11:32AM

They say smoking costs the NHS a lot of funds over the years, so are taxed to help cover those funds, yet people that vape are now not using the service for smoking related illnesses, which in the long term should see less having to be spent because of people having a healthier lifestyle?
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 10:57AM

If e-cigarettes were taxed, I would be pissed-off, but I would still use them (and start hunting for good deals online!)
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 9:07AM

So stupid to tax it. But we all know its coming.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 9:14AM

Again MONEY is the primary objective. Big Tobacco and Pharmacuticals have lost aLOT of money due to less revenue by individuals choosing to VAPE. It is a BRUTAL shame that many (IF taxed/regulated) a smoker may never try vaping for THAT reason. I may spend more now stockpiling but in the long run, it will pay for itself! Would I go back to smoking – NO, I’ve been on the other side too long. I have stocked up on a multitude of supplies.
Never will I give my funds to do harm t my body and honestly the thought of the taste of burning tobacco … bleck !
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 6:32AM

If E cigarettes are regulated the same as tobacco products then we may as well sick a fork in my eye as there is no hope and the world has gone mad!
oh i know lets regulate something to the point its impossible for users to have a decent vape then tax it and encourage converting back to killer cigarettes costing the nhs a fortune stupid f@*ked up world.
Sarcasm!
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 8:16AM

I believe the government does not care one
bit about our health. It’s all about the tax.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 7:07AM

Vaping should be encouraged, and for those that need help affording this technology, the money raised from smokers for smoking should be made available to any smoker who wishes to quit smoking in any manner.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 7:48AM

ecigs will eventually become the norm for nicotine delivery!
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 7:47AM

There is no reason to tax like cigarettes, that is just a money grubbing tactic by the government because so many people are quitting they are losing money. Some states states are going to be in it deep when they need to start paying off the tobacco settlement money bonds.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 6:28AM

Would make it just as expensive and therefore less viable choice for quitting.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 5:24AM

People with health awareness could still prefer vaping no matter the cost.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 6:20AM

taxation will not effect me unless it’s at a ridiculous rate
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 5:58AM

It would be criminal and the worst decision ever made by trying to gain money from a health product.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 4:42AM

This is why I learned to wrap and wick coils, and to make my own e-liquid. The government can stuff their taxes in any orifice they feel appropriate. 🙂
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 4:57AM

I would sue the government, and seek criminal charges.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 4:54AM

If e-cigarettes are taxed / regulated as tobacco, I believe the government who passes that legislation has effectively murdered millions of people.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 4:33AM

It depends on how extensive the taxing was and how much the prices would go up. But yes any taxing would make it less accessible and more likely to deter people from trying.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 4:22AM

It would be a stupid thing to do as one of the main reasons for taxing tobacco is to deter users due to the danger.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 3:33AM

MEDIA, you’re NEXT.


Research on ECIGS is well published and available  HERE and HERE

Medical Professionals are HERE


A work in perpetual progress: Vapinglinks.com

More to come – including the final analysis of the last survey!

As I logged into my blog this morning, I checked a few things. In doing so, I realized – to my surprise –  this is my 100th blog.

55,482 visitors in almost a year, with 97,735 views.

Small numbers in comparison to some I am sure, but I hope you enjoy reading my information as much as I enjoy giving it to you.

I thank you all for your support and friendship both on Facebook and Twitter.

Keep On #Vaping On
Kevin.

Stop Smoking. The Monkey On Your Back.

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Stop Smoking. The monkey on your back.

To stop smoking is a personal journey. It is also a personal choice. You alone are trying to stop smoking. Experts have advice on what smoking can do to you.

They are informative! Statistics of what is bad about smoking at their fingertips – reasons why smoking is bad – all kinds of stats and figures!

They are MORE THAN WILLING to give their assistance.

They are the professionals……

They are tobacco control experts.

Or are they?


They tout smoking related diseases. Health issues, common sense. Then, they point directly to an “approved method” that you have little to no chance for success in using.

Nicotine reduction!!!

USE the APPROVED methods, they SCREAM! Why are they approved if they DON’T have a great success rate? Take your MEDICINE!


Why are the methods approved not showing their success rate? You think, with all the hype about how approved they are, they’d say they were “70%” successful – pick a number – in helping people with tobacco harm reduction.

Wouldn’t you?


Smoking bans started just about the same time the patch was coming out…. no conflict of interest there.

The pharmaceutical interests supporting Tobacco Control


The nine most terrifying words in the English language are:

‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’Ronald Reagan
40th president of US (1911 – 2004)


Part of what prompted this specific blog was something I read from someone I admire about relapsing.

It seems the tobacco control expert world wants you to quit – but with low success rates on “methods”, relapses are imminent, very real, and continue to haunt smokers who really are trying to quit.


With e-cigarettes, relapsing isn’t so much of a thing…

Alan has a great insight about relapsing here.

Relapse Prevention


Why – with technology & science, aren’t they making the “approved” methods successful? Why do they blame the smoker when it doesn’t work? Because it’s a multitude of BUSINESS! It’s the see-saw effect! 🙂

They like MONEY, they want you to keep smoking!

They know they have smokers in a vicious smokescreen.


“The Patch” is a sham:

The Real Story Behind The Nicotine Patch And Smoking Cessation


Ohhhh how they claim Nicotine is the culprit.

The Evils Of Nick O’Teen


Nicotine is NOT addictive:

The Great Nicotine Myth


They can’t get rats addicted to nicotine alone:

The addition of five minor tobacco alkaloids increases nicotine-induced hyperactivity, sensitization and intravenous self-administration in rats.


Tobacco companies ADD things to make smoking addictive:

Cigarette Additives. The Sneaky Reason They’re Present


Do they know that? Well, call their quit lines. Counseling may help! Here’s an app! Are you JOKING?

You need to stop smoking. You’ve tried to stop smoking and failed. That’s too bad. Here’s some guilt for you. There are plenty of “approved” methods.

You’re not trying hard enough.

You don’t have enough willpower.


It’s contrived. They DO try hard, though

. quitdie

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The Quotes above are from here!


“Tobacco control” is the monkey on your back.

E-Cigarettes WORK. They just don’t want you to believe it. They have motive.

They want you to keep smoking.

MONKEYS2

One of my favorite chimps is here.

E-cigarettes are making tobacco control irrelevant,

so they want to restrict, regulate, tax and ban…

you know – for the children.


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Below are just 50 unedited quotes from the latest survey on what other methods they tried.




Had two long periods without smoking, about 1,5 years. but fell back. Both with cold turkey, other options did not work for me.
Thursday, Oct 8th 5:13PM


I tried everything I could get my hands on to quit. Longest I ever made it was about a month and then it was back to smoking again.
Thursday, Oct 8th 11:23AM


I’ve tried al lot of differnt ways to quit smoking, non of them helped me quit until I switched to vaping instead of smoking. I am now free of smoking and nicotine, and I’m completely happy with it!!
Thursday, Oct 8th 3:13AM


Tried to stop smoking several times over many years. I used patches, gum and champix. None of these methods seemed to have any advantage over cold-turkey stopping; they just seem to prolong the nicotine withdrawal phase.
Wednesday, Oct 7th 3:52PM


Nothing worked for me except pregnancy but as soon as I left the hospital I started smoking again. Since I started vaping i haven’t ever and don’t want to ever smoke again!!
Wednesday, Oct 7th 12:08AM


i also tried the supermarket bought BluCig style E-cig
Thursday, Oct 1st 9:22PM


Sadly, all failed.
Sunday, Sep 27th 11:51AM


I managed to stop smoking for 3 months from using Chantix. But I did not like the side effects. The tablets upset my stomach and I would occasionally suffer vomiting. I also had trouble sleeping and had scary vivid dreams.
Saturday, Sep 26th 3:39AM


Tried gum and cold turkey, but immediately knew that they were not gonna work. Vaping worked basically from day 1, it changed my life.
Thursday, Sep 24th 1:58PM


I started with an ecig 4 weeks ago
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 11:29AM


again, none of that worked and plenty of it was downright scary. The Chantix made me have horrible anger issues, nightmares, insomnia, memory loss/lost time…patches left permanent square scar on my shoulder due to an allergy to the adhesive and caused night sweats and nightmares…Blu cigalikes were stupidly high nicotine and made me vomit from too much nicotine at once and not nearly enough vapor to create a feeling of smoking. Plus they tasted horrible.
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 8:02AM


i tried to quit with gum, inhaler, cold turkey and with snus
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 12:20AM


I quit tobacco three times, each episode in excess of 3 months, but never longer than 6 months. I always wound up going back.
Sunday, Sep 20th 10:16AM


Patches and gum kept me away from smoking about three weeks at the most. It didn’t help much, and was by far to expencive
Monday, Sep 14th 2:54AM


I used Wellbutrin & it worked great & I stopped smoking cigarettes but it gave me seizures so I had to discontinue & eventually started smoking again. So far the only way that I’ve stayed tobacco free is through Vaping.
Sunday, Sep 13th 4:21PM


Lack of cash. was the biggest motivator to give up but that never lasted longer than 4 weeks.
Wednesday, Aug 26th 10:05AM


Nothing worked, some where down right dangerous, Champix for instance.
Thursday, Aug 20th 5:18PM


The longest I went using these methods was 12 months cold turkey. I gained 10kg in weight and was miserable the whole year.
Saturday, Aug 15th 7:23PM


Nothing worked. Nothing.
Saturday, Aug 15th 7:13AM


Hypnosis is garbage. Wanted a cigarette as soon as i left.
Tuesday, Aug 11th 7:10PM


Most times when I quit it was half heartedly. I loved smoking and will always consider myself a smoker
Saturday, Aug 8th 10:44AM


I couldn’t even quit smoking when I was pregnant. They put me on the patch post delivery of my first child, and after three days in the hospital I was ‘chomping at the bit’ to have a cigarette once I was released.
Friday, Aug 7th 11:05AM


I quit for 2 weeks using the Almanac. They used to say to quit smoking. It is the same as weaning your kids. I read How to quit smoking by Alan Carr and put the cigarettes down and got serious about vaping.
Monday, Aug 3rd 6:28PM


All other methods were hopeless/useless and champax made me homicidal
Monday, Aug 3rd 4:43PM


I tried Chantix but it affected my mood in a negative way so I quit taking it after 2-3 weeks.
Sunday, Aug 2nd 8:43PM


Tried quitting a few times, was successful once for about a year, then went back to smoking again!
Monday, Aug 3rd 4:25AM


American Lung Cancer’s Freedom from Smoking class. It was pretty stupid.
Sunday, Aug 2nd 11:11AM


All but vaping failed
Sunday, Aug 2nd 8:03AM


Fuck all worked! Just sayin…
Monday, Jul 27th 12:59PM


Managed to quit for two years using gum; then made the fatal mistake of thinking I could just have one socially!!!

Monday, Jul 27th 6:06AM


I was never a heavy smoker unless I was drinking so quitting was purely a mental thing.
Monday, Jul 27th 3:30AM


None ever worked besides vaping…
Sunday, Jul 26th 10:49PM


none of the methods i tried worked and i was allergic to the patches
Sunday, Jul 26th 4:30PM


None of these ever satisfied my urge to smoke. A lot of it for me is the hand to mouth action of smoking!!
Sunday, Jul 26th 7:16AM


I tried to quit so many times! It was stressful and very expensive! Vapeing made it so easy, I bought my vape and a day later I tried to smoke and they (cigarettes) tasted terrible! And I smoked a lot! Two packs a day sometimes! It was like a miracle.

Saturday, Jul 25th 11:24PM


Chantix (wellbutrin) turned me into a complete asshat
Saturday, Jul 25th 10:50PM


Chantix good lord! I tried twice with that garbage.
Saturday, Jul 25th 11:55AM


Vaping is by far has given me the best result
Friday, Jul 24th 7:11PM


NONE of them worked,but Vaping helped me IMMEDIATELY. three years cigarette free!
Friday, Jul 24th 7:01PM


Even after a colon cancer surgery that put me out of work for 8 months while I recovered and went through chemotherapy I couldn’t quit smoking. Vaping is the only thing that’s been able to keep me off lit tobacco.
Thursday, Jul 23rd 4:01PM


most of these products are very nasty i even tried patches but ended up smoking while wearing them
Wednesday, Jul 22nd 8:47AM


After having quit (cold turkey) for 2 years, I resumed smoking, because of negative health effects (overweight causing short breath, cholesterol, mood disorders). Restarting smoking restored my health (although I knew it was only temporary). Fortunately, I discovered vaping, and my health problems are now cleared.
Monday, Jul 20th 10:17AM


I tried everything but, always said that if I found the right product I could replace the tobacco.
Sunday, Jul 19th 1:05PM


Until I started vaping I was not able to cut back on cigarettes. Even after 5 heart attacks. Doctor have told me I am not a candidate for bypass since it is only 1 artery that they have had to stent. Even after quitting I have had another heart attack but the good part is I was not having to use oxygen the whole time I was in the hospital like before. My doctor has no problem with me vaping. All I can do is keep changing my lifestyle and get to the hospital ASAP when the symptoms appear. I have been cigarette free for approximately 8 months now. Yes, I have had cravings for a cigarette and when I am around a smoker I think I have asked for a drag a couple of times. Once I taste the nastiness I have no problem walking away now.
Sunday, Jul 19th 10:56AM


I have tried everything offered to me I could never completely stop. Always cut down and eventually just picked all the way back up
Sunday, Jul 19th 10:45AM


I am often negatively impacted by pharmaceutical drugs so was afraid to use any of the prescription methods.
Sunday, Jul 19th 11:12AM


NOTHING WORKED – 2 – 3 days of hell then back to smoking
Sunday, Jul 19th 9:50AM


None of this garbage worked. The cycle of smoking held a death grip.
Sunday, Jul 19th 8:54AM


I tried to cut down cigarettes but never tried to stop, till i found vaping
Sunday, Jul 19th 1:49AM


I quit smoking tobacco three times: twice for 6 month stretches and once for an entire year. Each time was extremely difficult when I was around other smokers or occasional smokers.
Saturday, Jul 18th 11:10PM




Here’s the thing. If those other methods WORKED for those CHOOSING to quit by whatever prompted them – then that would be great.

When they KNOW they don’t really work and don’t want to talk about it, wouldn’t you find it imperative, according to their own agenda, instead of their own ulterior motives,  that any form of less smoking is better? When will they embrace it? When will the “in charge”  have integrity?


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E-cigarettes work. If they wanted to reduce tobacco consumption, without question, they would with e-cigarettes.

When the experts on tobacco control who cannot seem to step up, take the responsibility to the PUBLIC and stop the lies, then there will be less tobacco use in the world.

These Medical Professionals do.

Instead of complaining, pretending, lying and misconstruing facts, grow up.

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Medical Professionals Speak Out on E-Cigarettes.

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What do medical professionals decide with their patients?

How are e-cigarettes now being discussed along side their colleagues and organizations?

How do professionals feel about them as a tool for tobacco harm reduction?


One response was

“Nothing is more detrimental to your health than inhaling burning tobacco”



The following answers are as they were, in full, to each question in this survey. It is all here for you as a professional to see what your colleagues have said.


 *Update 4/13/16:

The survey below was used as one of many references here:

Views from the Coalface: What Do English Stop Smoking Service Personnel Think about E-Cigarettes?


As an individual the information you see may help you decide an e-cigarette is right for you –  based on these responses and other responsible science, research and other links on this blog.

There was no editing of comments, including spelling.

I did remove 2 responses – one admitted they were not a health/medical professional, one only answered the 1st 2 questions. All else is intact here.

This is what the medical community said.


0155 decided to leave their names.


Question 2. Please give your professional opinion on e-cigarettes.

85% said they are safer than combustible cigarettes.

02Professional



Comments:

Nothing is more detrimental to your health than inhaling burning tobacco
Anybody who says anything to the contrary should not be working in healthcare.
I am not convinced they are aiding people to stop smoking I’ve seen patients using them as an alternative when in a no smoking area and it seems to be encouraging more smoking
No tobacco and nicotine is optional
But depends on it flavouring ingredient. Higher the nicotine, less safe it will be.
I have no doubt about this and I see them as a huge public health breakthrough

 “Other”

Are less harmful than cigarettes.
safer but..

Question 3. Have you as a professional received any information from an association or any organization about e-cigarettes?

03info


Comments:

Canadian Medical Association, Vancouver Island Health Authority, BC Medical Health Officer, Heart & Stroke Association, the list is too long…

I switched to an ecig so that way I could lower my nicotine and take one puff instead of wasting a whole cigarette.

I use one myself and there are no carcinogens in my e-juice.

National Centre for Smoking Cessation & Training (NCSCT)

ASH UK

Public Health England

“Other”

I have done my own research

Received both positive negative and forward-looking


Question 4. When Patients ask about e-cigarettes I:

77% will tell patients an e-cigarette is an option.

04patientasksComments:

and encourage them to use it.
It’s called Champix in UK
Because the college of nurses of ontario has not made an official statement I can’t legally make vaping an alternative smoking cessation option. Side note – I vape doe….
I would advise my patients against them as not enough is known about their content and effect there are many alternatives that have proven effectiveness I feel are safer
I would tell them that in my opinion that it appears safer than combustible type. they should also try smoking cessation. Especially if there may be a health diagnosis that would be a contraindication to e cigarettes.
Being a cna I’m not in the position. To write a prescription but I talk to those that are interested.
All forms of smoking carry some risk whether it be cigarettes, hookah, e-cigarettes, etc. I don’t know of many people who have successfully quit smoking all together using e-cigarettes. I feel like people just trade one addiction for another. Which is worse I don’t know.
Closest to real smoking with hand to mouth action.
If they take more nicotine contain ingredient, they may addict to it. Less nicotine is much better.
It’s important on a lot of levels that stop smoking services talk about licensed meds, but many patients will have tried them before, unsuccessfully. Ecigs offer new hope

 “Other”

Suggest e-cigarettes
Inform them it’s likely the least healthy, but also by far the most effective.
Both ecigarette and counseling
I’ve never been asked that, but I would encourage quitting cold turkey. From what I’ve been told, that’s the best way to quit.
depends..


Question 5. Do you have or know of patients who smoke fewer cigarettes or who have stopped smoking using an e-cigarette?

05stopped

Comments:

I have worked with patients who have used ecigs in combination with traditional nrt to quit

Myself included.

My patients are typically marked as a smoker or nonsmoker… Anesthesia makes that determination and I’ve never asked if they would still be marked as a smoker with the e-cigarette.

I myself have been smoke free for 9.5 months with this cessation tool.

Our service has seen success on both levels ie complete cessation and cutting down, which MAY ultimately lead to cessation, just more slowly

“Other”

There are dual users. Self-reporting amounts are not very accurate.

More people than not.


Question 6.  If a patient says they stopped using tobacco with an e-cigarette I will

06nonsmokerComments:

would like to have option c-cig user..

Depending on the nicotine use so that the patient may receive a nicotine patch while in our locked no smoking/vaping unit.

Will make a note in the chart about vaping and note nic strength and amount of use.

I’m not sure if swapping one habit for another is a positive step they would need to quit the e cigarettes first

One whole year.

National guidance from PHE has come out that if people are not smoking they are non-smokers! Not everyone has caught on however

I don’t understand. If they have stopped have they stopped using both e-cigarette and regular cigarettes?

“Other”

document that the patient state they use e cigarettes

Comment that the pasient used to smoke cigarettes but have stopped and is now vaping. For medical staff.

Doesn’t apply to my field

I don’t know

See comment to question 5.


Question 7. Of patients who use electronic cigarettes have you

07healthbenefits

Comments:

This is a very poorly worded question.

Noted reductions in COPD and GERD in different patients

In the nursing home a patient switched and when she goes outside to vape she no longer has a phlegmy cough and sleeps through the night better.

Only mental health is routinely monitored within my service. Service users successfully quitting or reducing smoking through ecigs appear to have improved self-esteem after stopping smoking.

“Other”

no comment

Some astmathic pasients have decreased lung problems after they starter vaping and use inhalors less frequently.

Noticed exaserbated symtoms of conditions

N/a

N/A. I see my patients for one day typically, so I am unable to assess progress or trends of that nature.

I’m a Quitcard provider and have only recently had clients use e-cigarettes containing nicotine so haven’t noticed changes yet.

Question 8. When discussing electronic cigarettes with colleagues have you

08colleaguesComments:

We generally agree that ecigs are a safer alternative, so long as nicotine levels are being reduced below that of traditional cigarettes

The hospital I work for has a no smoking/vaping policy. I work on the mental health unit and I believe that this is unjust. Patients I care for are supposed to be therapeutically relaxed and taking away a self therapy such as smoking is more detrimental to our patients trying to adjust after being involuntarily committed.

E cigarettes banned however most staff believe they shouldn’t be

Most of my co-workers smoke. A few have quit smoking using personal Vaporizors (e-cig), so they have not only researched the topic, they have observed improved health in the people they care for, they have experienced first hand how helpful it is to use an e-cig as a method to help them quit and like the results and the process much better than when they took chantix.

Staff continue to be resistant to SUs vaping near them, due to false perceptions of harm to bystanders.
Organisation has prohibited the use of ecigs indoors & rejected my appeal to reverse this decision

Many have quit.

I often discuss this with colleagues from other areas, disciplines, who are initially sceptical but who become convinced of the positive effects, especially once they listen to vapers

Question 9. What changes do you note in patients who switch from smoking to vaping.

09changesComments.

In general, not personally.

Far better mental health is very notable: being released from the grips of tobacco after decades is really life changing for people.

I see less ups and downs in behaviors in the ones who have quit smoking and now use a vaporizor (e-cig).

Activity tolerance is improved noticeably

I don’t have enough interaction with pts who are using e-cigarettes to answer.

“Other”

Decreased use of antibiotics, inhalors and other drugs in several asthmatic pasients.

N/A

improved mental health following success in making positive changes

As above, clients of mine have only recently started using e-cigarettes so I haven’t noticed any changes yet.

Question 10. Please finish this sentence: Nicotine without delivery by combustible cigarettes is:

4% think nicotine is dangerous,

25% think nicotine is addictive.

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Comments

A viable treatment option for smokers wanting to quit and should be encouraged to be used alongside behavioural support

It’s not addictive.

Nicotine is a stimulant with known brain receptors, however, so is caffeine. Research is ongoing but seems to be pointing towards a less addictive status of nicotine versus that of cigarettes.

Nicotine when isolated from the noxious fumes of combustion in tobacco is far less damaging than we are being led to believe.

I’d almost say it’s no cause for concern, but it is a mild stimulant and depressant, and no drug use is healthier than full abstinence (caffeine included)

It also causes an increase in blood pressure, vasoconstriction, and increases the risk for blood clots.

Like Caffeine. Nicotine is actually good for certain medical conditions as dementia, diabetes, depression, ADHD, and colitis.

Possibly the best way of preventing relapse to smoking, with huge public health benefits. Healthcare professionals and politicians should get over their horror of nicotine

Still not quitting. Which should be your goal!

Probably addictive but may not be via nicotine patches and low dose gum, lozenges and e-cigarettes

“Other”

An e-cigarette
An addictive stimulant

 Question 11. As a medical professional I

63% would definitely recommend e-cigarettes

17% are cautious

6% would never recommend e-cigarettes.

11recommendComments.

Support anyone wanting to stop smoking regardless of method of cessation
I Recommend it to patients who have tried traditional methods without success. If someone wants to quit nicotine completely they should use all available methods, but if they’re unsuccessful that’s when I recommend vaping.
This survey has made me write an email to my college seeking guidance. Thank you.
Wouldn’t recfomend as not allowed to; however I believe they are a good alternative for patients in long stay in patient wards who have no desire to quit
I do not feel I can give an evidence based answer to anyone who asks about e cigarettes and more research is needed
Its an easier way to slowly decrease nicotine intake.
Only cautiously because employer bans their use & may be punitive towards staff actively encouraging SUs to vape
Safer alternative to smoking and can be used a cessation tool if they choose.
The biggest benefits could be among communities where smoking is a chronic relapsing condition that robs people of their health and their disposable income ie the poor, people who have serious mental health problems, prisoners, people who have poor physical health
I believe that we should be encouraging pts to stop smoking and vaping to improve their health.
As a Quitcard provider rather than a medical profession.
“Other”
however I still recommend vaping due to other testemonies I’ve heard from other users and professionals..
Would recommend quitting smoking all together.

Question 12. Thank you for taking this survey. Please feel free to leave any comments.

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I’m an e-cig user and would recommend it to all smokers to try them without the pg in it first before they try it with pg. As a lot of people are allergic to the propylene glycol
Gen. 1 e-cigs were not effective for me personally, the gen 2 was, and helped me quit smoking after a pack and half a day 40+ year habit. I have been tobacco free for a year 7/26/15, and nicotine free since Christmas 2014.
I vape myself. Cannot recommend it highly enough.
The Tobacco Products Directive will be a public health disaster, and will crush an industry which has given more hope to people than any in the 21st century (okay except maybe electric cars, robots)
A significant number of service users were utilising ecigs in the service & had quit or reduced cigarettes. Following prohibition of their use indoors, some service users have resumed smoking as they did before.
I am an ecig user & activist myself
I myself have been smoke free for 9.5 months with the use of e-cig. I feel so much better now. And so does my pocket book.
The improvement is depend on user itself. Ingredient of flavour is the main component to give attention.
I hope you get lots of people completing the survey, well done

Once the survey was over, the participants were given a link to both Ecigarette-Research and M.O.V.E.


ADDED 01/13/17

Physician Advice for e-Cigarette Use

 


To be sure the record is clear, I specifically targeted some of the renowned tobacco control “experts” and organizations around the world repeatedly to take this survey for complete balance within the answers. To my knowledge they did not.

For all the effort these worldwide organizations and individuals do to claim e-cigarettes are bad, I wanted to be very public about allowing the opportunity for them to speak their minds as well.

Just a few examples:

a

b c  e

– – – – –

This survey was put out before Public Health England released their evidence to the world.

(Public Health England)

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The film A Billion Lives

is no longer being censored!


Added 8/29/16:

 

Majority of US doctors discussing electronic cigarettes with their patients


 

If you are a non-profit vaping / e-cigarette friendly organization and aren’t already listed,

you can be listed on the front page of my website for free.


More to come including the results of the 2nd “Vaping Truth Survey”.

As always,

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin.

E-Cigs & Vaping. Fighting For Livelihood, Fighting For Lives. Here’s a phone number.

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Some are fighting for their livelihood; some are fighting for lives.

 David Goerlitz would like a phone call or an email and is offering HELP.

Here’s his email and phone number.

He stated the phone line is open:

609-234-0220.

He’s also available at his email:

kgkjkl@yahoo.com…..

He’s not joking and neither am I…


Don’t know who Mr. Goerlitz is? I didn’t either till around December. I’ll get back to that.


W.H.O. , Governments. Politicians. Health Care. Health Organizations like the American Lung / Heart Associations. Anti-Tobacco. Tobacco. Pharmaceutical Companies. Doctors. Nurses. Pharmacies.

Big Corporations carrying those products that are to keep you well like drug stores and supermarkets. They’re doing the best they can fighting as well.


They have to keep money coming in, or they’ll lose a foothold. At what cost? I believe its at the very least the cost of lives. Those products had research/development. Lots of cash.


Those companies and conglomerates have investors. Investors want profit. It’s been said in this blog – Greg Conley of the AVA said vaping/ecigs are a disruptive technology.

I said in a previous blog somewhere It is again, disrupting alright. It’s disrupting cash flow from all of the above.


Those are people we vapers call antz. Those people are fighting for their livelihood. Grants. MSA funding. Tax dollars. Poorly portrayed reports in media. Misconstruing data. Pretending. Santa Claus. But its working. They’ve taken over. They’ve convinced the masses their way in ANY WAY & form that they can. We KNOW what they’re doing… what are WE doing???

For you who DO make noise, awesome. Someone heard you, I know I’ve heard quite a few. I’m SURE you know who are. We’ve probably crossed paths on Facebook or Twitter by now. You know where I stand…

For you who haven’t made any noise …. either stay quiet, become loud, or don’t WHINE and shrug your shoulders when regulation becomes control, taxation and possible bans………………..Yes I said bans. If you’re a reviewer, say something on your video about advocacy to your viewers. Maybe they don’t know. Put a clip of it up. Draw 30 seconds of attention to it. If you’re a vendor, you’ve got NO excuse not to be screaming….maybe not monetary, but you should be telling your customers and screaming at the government. By screaming I mean letters, phone calls, emails… I’ve SEEN a little of that on facebook & twitter….   MORE!


 With few exceptions, those supporting and involved directly with M.O.V.E, or those about to join ranks with M.O.V.E. are the source of truth. Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos and his team (my apologies for not naming names with him at the moment) are standing up to the world, standing UP to an extremely large agenda with class and purpose (they) have continuously shown for those who can’t.” There are others here & abroad.You know who you are, and I thank you.



For the record, I smoked for 30 + years. I’ve vaped almost 2 years. I lost my father to lung cancer last fall. I lost my Grandmother to lung cancer as well. We have been a family of smokers till death do they part. Duh. I miss them dearly, and had they known vaping, they’d be screaming louder than I am.


I DON’T care if you smoke, dual use, just started out… or have been vaping exclusively for years. If you’re vaping and you’re on line… you’ve got future generations needing a choice in this matter.


Are you comfortable?

Are you happy? Are you satisfied? Are you able to do it yourself? Do you care?

Are you complacent?

Full Definition of COMPLACENT

1:  marked by self-satisfaction especially when accompanied by unawareness of actual dangers or deficiencies :  marked by complacency :  self-satisfied <a complacent smile>
2:  complaisant 1
3:  unconcerned        com·pla·cent·ly adverb

 SO.

Vapers / consumers have been dependent on CASAA and the VAPING MILITIA  to fight for us. I asked someone recently if they were too passive. Too complacent. Too laid back.  I think they are.

Is it funding? is it complacency? Is is me? This is a HUGE fight. Cloud blowing and trinkets are awesome…..I’m all for it,  but there’s a much bigger battle. I’m not saying they’re not doing anything, I’m saying more needs to be done.


WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT LOUD ENOUGH.

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We’re playing footsies. Tickle tickle.


This is a fight not easily fought or won for the deeming regulation to occur in the USA…. I don’t know about funding, money, lobbying, cash flow, donations, calls to action, none of that bullshit either, it’s not my expertise and I’ve never run an org…….. I thankfully have a job. I enjoy social media for fun, I love the funny cat video or hand check like the next guy…. we’re all human……but I did notice THIS:


 A photo at the FDA facebook page got 7,000+ comments with a #vapingsavedmylife hashtag. I joined in… on the survey page on facebook and twitter…..

THEN I started tweeting/hitting facebook with DEEMING REGULATION.

It is about loose tobacco – pipes… it’s not just vaping……….it’s about control……………..


The tweets by me the other night were modestly retweeted about the deeming regulation and shared on facebook by a few more…   now, updated daily, the FDA site where DEEMING REGULATION will invariably happen… regulation=control=tax=bans and very stringent guidelines……………………….. As of today:

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As of today on the comments of the DEEMING REGULATION at the FDA site updated Friday:

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 That just pisses me off.

Dimitris retweeted me. A few others did too…. big accounts…to get some real action on the FDA site…..not even a “like”from some…..imagine that. BIG players in the field of vaping.

What the HELL is wrong with you people????

   There are 13,000+ on CASAA’s facebook page. There are over 8,000 on the Vaping Militia facebook page.

No, not all would see a tweet or post on that page, not all that are on facebook are members in the USA, so lets say 10 percent – that’s 2100 comments……………………………… but you can BUMP a video of a cat???

Can you pin a tweet? Can you understand you’re being played? Do you not know what this is about?

It’s about health. It’s about choice.

Finally it’s about control, and continued control of cash.

Your cash. Your children’s cash & health.

It’s about us fighting for their lives.

If you dismiss everything I’ve said about the USA above, keep going…

It’s been banned in other countries. BANNED in other countries.

That pisses me off.

I don’t know that I do everything “right”.

It’s easy to armchair the orgs from where I am. We have to keep doing SOMETHING.

now it’s up to merchants & individuals to be LOUD AS HELL as WELL….

SFATA & AVA are on that side, if you didn’t know and you’re a vendor, shame on you.



Well, David Goerlitz would like a phone call or an email to HELP. Here’s his email and phone number.

……

email kgkjkl@yahoo.com……


David Goerlitz. You might recognize him, you might not. I don’t know Mr. Goerlitz myself, but was within an email only conversation with him today, and remember emailing him some time ago on FB about something. That said, I’m going to just post some of his comments – and remember – his phone line is open and if it’s busy, I’m sure he’s got voicemail. I will give his number again, and again…. at the bottom along with his blog.

“Here is where you should pay attention”


He said in part on an email:

I guess I need to tweet, twit, hash tag, or twitter to be taken seriously. I’m old school Kevin and yes you can use whatever I have for whatever you want. I don’t do selfie’s or brag about my past. But it DOES play a roll
I’ll let you read his comments.
 Check the date: 2/9/14
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 March last year:
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April of last year:
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August of last year:
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Again in August:

“can’t return a phone call”

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August again:
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August……………….
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“609 234-0220……email kgkjkl@yahoo.com……I guess I need to tweet, twit, hash tag, or twitter to be taken seriously. I’m old school Kevin and yes you can use whatever I have for whatever you want. I don’t do selfie’s or brag about my past. But it DOES play a roll……………………”




David is, after all, the

http://formerwinstonman.com/ 

and understands what we’re up against. Read his blog. I don’t know if anyone will get this far in it, but if you don’t care, as you were. If you do care, do something, if I hurt your feelings, aww. If I pissed you off, GOOD. If I motivated you as an individual or a company… vendors I’m talking to YOU…..reviewers too…. and you’re going to be active at your B&M, good. Be aware…. it’s coming. David’s BEEN saying so. To the CASAA & Vaping Militia, if you know the knowledge he has, above and beyond what we do, and it is there to use, I won’t ask why you haven’t called David yet, I now will only ask “when will you”, and what else can I do? I’ll always be gladly willing to learn & take suggestions.


David’s number again if you missed it is

……

email: kgkjkl@yahoo.com……


Roly Gate had this on E-Cigarette Politics and it is spot ON. Campaign For Truth In Public Health ***********


Well, David Goerlitz would like a phone call or an email to HELP. Here’s his email and phone number.

……

email kgkjkl@yahoo.com……


Keep On #Vaping On. Kevin

Smoking Cessation, Manipulative Discretion.

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The search for millions of people for a smoking cessation “tool” has been underway for years. Many ways to stop have been introduced in the world, and for some to no avail. 

 

The Real Story Behind the Nicotine Patch and Smoking Cessation

By: Amy Renshaw

The smoker, provoked by health reasons, pressure, guilt or shame, even the hard core smoker will at some point try anything at any cost to stop smoking. When someone fails, supporters of the one trying turn quickly on them and accuse the smoker with phrases like  “lack of willpower” or  “just not wanting to quit” and create doubt, stir and conjure up “failure”.

Keep trying…  any way you can. In my opinion, if it is a product, the other ways available are set up for failure by design, where vaping is very successful. Originally thought of and patented by Herbert A. Gilbert’s patent from the 1960’s, He called it “moist, flavored air”.

Mr. Gilbert is still alive and well, if you’re wondering!


For this “blog” I searched the word “cessation” in the results of the survey and got thinking about it. Vaping is successful for most for two reasons in my opinion. It is more about the sensation you’re conditioned to, and cessation is just the natural course of progression away from tobacco for most. I’m talking about smoking, not nicotine.

The media, many public health & political figures are using irresponsible and manipulative discretion

(The way one acts attempting to attain selfish ends by disregarding another’s aspirations or well being to control or play upon that one’s hopes or fears.)

in any way necessary for their own greed to downplay vaping – an e-cigarette – as a viable and useful device.

Below are enlightening and unedited comments from just the word cessation from the survey (The survey final analysis is linked at the bottom of this blog).


We all know the tools available, but the word cessation; ” a temporary or final ceasing (as of action)” as to the use of tobacco is the end result one is normally looking for in “not smoking”… some are cutting down, some want to cease smoking for good because the dangers of smoking are slow and unseen for a very long time. There are dual users, and that’s their choice. The reasons people try to quit vary and most likely are health related as being the top reason.


Here are the comments from the survey on “cessation” and under those are a few links.


This is my plea for help. No one is listening to me. I feel hopeless and depressed.

After smoking for over 40 years, this sin has caught up to me.

After years of trying to quite using Pharmacy smoking aids, nicotine patches, nicotine puffers, nicotine inhalers, flavored nicotine gums, and prescribed smoke cessation drugs, I finally discovered an instrument to try and salvage what health I have left -an e-cigarette.

An electronic cigarette. So simple. So pure. A gift for Mankind. A gift from God.

It allowed me to quit instantly.

After using this miracle product, going on 3 years now, I am told that the Government,
through bill 45, is trying to take away my life saving gift. No questions asked. No questions answered. No questions period.

Please help me . . .

No one is listening to me . . .

I feel hopeless and depressed . . .
Please help . . .


Thanks for this survey, hope the information gathered is used to highlight the real truth about vaping. Smoking cessation was my goal in vaping and it has become a personal lifestyle choice.


Vaping is a cool thing to do for many, but for me it’s more about smoking cessation. When I walk into many vape shops there are people behind the counter trying to see who can blow the biggest cloud. Close minded idiot politicians and anti smoking morons see that same scene, and that’s all they see. They see no merit to vaping with that scene. We can say “f-them”, but they’re busy banning and taxing us around the world, screwing up what could be a technology capable of ending cigarette smoking as we know it. We need more research and public surveys like this one to reaffirm what we already know, vaping is less harmful than smoking cigarettes, and it’s helping to save lives.


This method works for me and I encourage others, especially family and friends, to try it. I loan/give them what they need to get started. I am concerned that the cash cow that is tobacco and smoking cessation pharmaceuticals will limit availability and make people afraid to try something that is relatively harmless. Not TOTALLY harmless, but SO MUCH safer than tobacco.


Since pharma came up with nicorette in the 70th, smoking cessation tools have to be save and approved. Instead of being a proud nonsmoker????? I`m smoking the safest and most harmless cigarette ever, there is no need for regulations. Don`t believe the WHO and ANTZ lies, even Fagerstroem did rename his Nicotin-test to make all those people ill and addicted, that don`t use “medical” nicotin.


I think it’s sad and hilarious that e-cigarettes cannot be legally promoted as a smoking cessation tool. That needs to change.


If any regulation is to be done, it should not be done by government entities that are in bed with big pharma and big tobacco. For years we hear you have to quit smoking. We find a product that works for so many folks where all other cessation aids have failed, and the government wants to tax and regulate it to death. But there are huge pushes to legalize pot. Really! Leave my vaping alone and let me be an adult and find responsible places to buy my vape gear including juices. If the government wants to make vaping safer…..try funding some small business to start up manufacturing in the US, so we don’t have to buy everything from China!!


I personally have tried every “FDA approved” smoking cessation device that lead to failure at the least, illness at the most….


I was, and still am, convinced that vaping provides an infinitely safer method compared to smoking. Vaping is the only harm reduction/cessation product that has successfully allowed me to abandon cigarette use.


was shown vaping by a friend decided to try it to quit cigarettes,had tried all the rest on cessation aids nothing else worked


I used vaping as a quit method, despite its inherit noncessation attribution.


No problem switching, taste was better and noticed the health increase from smoking cessation


I tried a very old, small e-cigarette approximately 1,5 years before I stopped smoking. After I quit smoking using a cessation drug, I kept feeling the craving for approximately half a year, which is when I turned to vaping. So in a sense, I quit smoking 6 months before I took up vaping.


I think so. Should be limited to 18 and older. Primarily should be used as smoking cessation product.


In my eyes, it is a smoking cessation product. I only say this because I no longer smoke cigarettes…and was a user of cigarettes for 10 years.


Vaping works, but I don’t think I would call it a cessation tool. It’s its own thing 😉


Vaping is a smoking cessation


vaping is a cessation aid. i way to help people stop smoking


Vaping works as a smoking cessation product as well as a smoking substitute. How well it works, like any other product, depends on the willingness and determination of the individual.


Vaping has changed my life in a positive way that I had given up hope was possible. Even if it does have negative effects, it’s still safer than smoking. Even if the cessation rates are the same as other nicotine replacement therapies, it’s reach goes much farther than the others, meaning more lives are saved.


Ok vaping will not work on everyone, but I believe it to be the best cessation device I have ever tried. As long as I have my e-cig I do not want a cigarette. It replaces the act of smoking which all of the other smoking cessations fail to do. I believe this to be the biggest advantage to the e-cigarette. When I was on the patch or gum, it was a constant test of my will power as soon as I saw someone light up a cigarette. With the e-cig that feeling is gone!


Best thing ever. Government should be embracing it as a smoke cessation device. It shouldn’t be supplemented though.


I am quite concerned that the people with the money, ie: big pharma are sponsoring articles and false studies on how vaping is bad for us. They stand to lose billions from revenue generated by their smoking cessation aides (too many to list) that don’t work and the government because they obviously go where the money is.


As I said above, the powers-that-be are mostly acting irrationally when it comes to science. There are too many vested interests for them to act in a disinterested manner and too many wealthy and powerful interests acting to protect their own interests against vaping (the pharmaceutical industry, the tobacco industry, etc.). They therefore are spreading the most incredible lies and disinformation about vaping. They should be held accountable for the people they are killing by not allowing them accurate, truthful, undistorted information about this cessation method.





Stop paying attention to the media. Stop concerning yourself with “fluff” and outrageous claims of experts. If you’re in doubt, sitting quietly contemplating this choice, I implore you to follow these links:

If you are worried about nicotine, it is here

—>All About Nicotine (& Addiction)

If you need validation of research, it is here —>Research

If you need to see what responsible members of the Medical, Scientific & Research community has decided to do worldwide, or if you are one and know the benefits of e-cigarettes, please join!

It is here

—> M.O.V.E.


If you need to see this extensive and powerful research done by Kellie Forbes (BScN RN, a member of M.O.V.E.) to help others to find a way to the truth here in PDF form, it is here

—> Vaping-the-truth-USA

If you need more of a personal story, it is here via the Vaping Militia’s Alex Carlson:

—>Interview With Fiamma Palermo (Karen Lee) The First To Say #ImProof

(Article Via—>Alex Carlson )


If you need more from groups, there is

—>CASAA & the

—>Vaping Militia.

If you need more, you’ll find it from Clive Bates here

—> Briefing on the science and policy of e-cigarettes and vaping:

If you need more from the survey, they’re found here—> Vaping Truth Survey Final Analysis and throughout this blog.



If you see or hear anything else,Ask for truth with proof. Don’t be fooled by hype and please question it.

Expect nothing less than the truth as if your lives depended on it, VAPING SAVES LIVES.


If you use an e-cig, I encourage you to comment to the F.D.A. as an individual or as a business.

: Post your comments —>>> Open Dockets for Public Comment with the FDA


Keep On #Vaping On.

Kevin