DO Something.

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Do Something.


We’re preaching to the choir. In the photo.

That’s me on the middle right. (#ecigs #save #lives)

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Us. Ourselves. #hashtagging. A lot. I’m just as guilty of this as the next person. We yell, scream and show evidence to the contrary when they’re spitting out wrong information.

We know they’re lying. They know they’re lying.

But HOW does the public know they’re lying?
How do smokers know?

How do we reach smokers in the most effective way?
How do we even *find* them?

Do Something.


*David Goerlitz, the Former Winston Man, recently had this to say.

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 *David Goerlitz


Folks, ~we~ are the choir. We, the choir, need to be clear, loud and in tune when we sing to the congregation!

There are national consumer organizations. CASAA & The Vaping Militia and Not Blowing Smoke. These are great organizations for consumers in the United States, with mountains of information and help, and have state organizations working with them as well.

Worldwide, there are the NNA, GFN, ECITA, THRA, Vapers.org.UK, EVUN and more links to wonderful organizations on both sides of this blog. The Information within those sites is astounding. VERY informative. People who care.

Do Something.

Fighting along side the consumer organizations are the National industry organizations: SFATA, (The Smoke Free Alternatives Trade Association), the AVA (American Vaping Association) and VISTA (Vaping Industry Supported Proactive Advocacy) who don’t shy away from lending a hand to consumers.
There is a Political group in the United Kingdom called Vapers In Power!

There are vape meets, where vapers go.. There are vape shops, where vapers go… I’m starting to see a pattern. There are street corners and break areas at work where we vapers show others our equipment and explain how vaping works. On occasion, we victoriously “convert” a smoker.


SO. Now comes my question.

How can we pass on our knowledge and experience to the smokers we don’t know personally? Those who have the desire to stop smoking but may be leery of ecigs? How do we allow them the opportunity to know?

How do we #DoSomething?

That’s rhetorical, of course, since most people reading this blog are vapers. I’m preaching to the choir.

When I was smoking, if you came to me and said you had the best thing ever, or advice, I’d listen but probably blow smoke in your general direction while you spoke. Maybe smokers aren’t looking for us. Maybe they haven’t decided to #dosomething. Maybe they want to smoke.

For a little while, I’ve been pondering what I can DO. I don’t have a shop, I don’t have journalist buddies at my fingertips with a line to the mainstream media. The President hasn’t answered my questions I’ve posed. I have a full time job.

Do Something.

There are people who #DoSomething.

I would LOVE to do what @mihop asks here:

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Why yes, yes I would. Not feasible, but YES, yes I would.


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I TRY, Sealion Sho2daPan!


I’ve put some thought into this, and have decided, along with my day job, It IS my job.

For awhile now, I’ve tweeted the results of the first survey – to show anyone on the fence about vaping – what – we – know –
I’ve tweeted it to the moon & back by now. Well – I don’t think that’s enough.

I want to speak to smokers.


I want to

Do Something.


You’ll see what I mean here:





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                                                                                                                      Kevin Crowley
● Speaker ● Tobacco Harm Reduction ● Advocate
E-cigarettes save lives.

My goal, in fact my passion, is to speak with as many people as possible to present a fair, balanced opportunity to understand e-cigarettes and vaping and why it works. They can then make an informed and educated choice for themselves.

The information I provide will empower them with the knowledge to personally succeed in reducing or eliminating tobacco in their lives.
I want every smoker to know that research and science exist, despite media stories and many public health “experts” worldwide claiming otherwise.
I want to speak directly to smokers. I want to speak to the elderly, people who aren’t online. The people who are afraid or don’t know anything. The unsure. The doubters. I would like to talk with church groups, medical organizations, rotary clubs, senior citizen centers, active military members, veterans, business owners, firefighters, cooks & waitresses, self-employed, corporate jet-setters, stockbrokers, gas station attendants, doctors, nurses, clerks, truck drivers. Everyone.
I want the next generation to “wonder” what smoking IS.
I will share a brief introduction. I’m 47 years old. I started smoking when I was 9. Thirty+ years smoker – two packs a day. I repeatedly tried to quit with the patch, gum, cold turkey. I finally stopped smoking in less than 48 hours with an e-cigarette, and so did my wife-accidentally – at the same time.
I lost my Grandmother in 1998 and my Father in 2014, both to lung cancer.
After almost two years of being smoke-free I was completely inspired to create and author “The Vaping Truth Survey” to raise awareness properly about e-cigarettes worldwide, despite the rhetoric and media blitz of misinformation. This garnered over 7,000 participants worldwide from 72 countries.
That survey itself gives clear and specific information about what “vapers” – e-cigarette users know, do and experience. How they succeeded. It gives someone contemplating the use of an e-cigarette distinct insight to those who are unaware of the potential as their way out of the grip of tobacco. For those to gain the knowledge to potentially be free from tobacco forever. Forever.
I am on a mission to educate & inform, based both on both personal experience and information obtained from the worldwide survey & other reliable sources. I want every member of every group to be comfortable with what they learn to walk into a vape shop with confidence. This is their first step on their journey to end their relationship with tobacco.

If you have any questions or would like booking information for your group,
please feel free to email me at: kevincrowley@hotmail.com
Thank you,
Kevin Crowley



Do Something.

I want local vendors – wherever I am speaking – involved. SFATA or AVA or VISTA members get MY top priority. I don’t want them to sponsor ME specifically, I want them to offer starter kits, giveaways at each event. I want them to offer every person attending a 10% coupon or some other incentive.

I want them to inspire people. I want them to #SponsorASmoker. I want them to #DoSomething. I want to get to the smoking public. The people who matter. Smokers. Friends, family, loved ones of smokers. WE have no other choice.

They deserve the truth. We can #DoSomething and give them that truth. We need to be proactive and do EVERYTHING we can DO to get our word out properly. If you have a better idea, bring it. I’m looking for ideas.

If you want a national network or international network of vapers (Vaper Speakers, Vaping Speakers, E-Cigarette Speakers?) on one list – willing to do this for free or pay, bring it.


We need to REACH the people who need to hear it most to make an informed choice.

Smokers.

We need to be informative, we need to be loud, and we need to do this NOW.

We need to #DoSomething.


Do Something.

Any suggestions or comments are always welcome.


These professionals

Do Something.

Research & Science at ecigarette-research.org

Doctors & Professionals at M.O.V.E.


If you didn’t see the FINAL results of the first Vaping Truth Survey – they’re HERE.
For every action, there’s a reaction if you

Do Something!


THESE are national consumer and industry organizations in the United States who keep US informed.


 

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A BILLION LIVES


More to come.
As always,
Keep ON #Vaping On.
Kevin.

Dear Julie: “The Last Word: Julie Lautsch”

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Dear Julie Lautsch,

Like many – and I mean many others in your field, you are claiming you are an “expert”. The controversies you so crave to unravel have been covered many times before. You’ve got a little drivel dripping off your chin in that photo. Lies. Innuendo. Imagine how you’ve created your very own version of the same exact things spouted over and again in the past few years. Imagine my surprise how well it’s worded “differently” – almost believeable! Almost plagiarism! You MUST be proud!

Copy, paste, reword, SEND! Good for you.

Lets wipe some of that drivel off your chin, shall we? (It’s not ladylike.)

The Last Word: Julie Lautsch
Posted on August 12
Digital Communications Expert, Anti-Tobacco Warrior

On the rise of e-cigarettes

I’ve been working in tobacco control for about five years. E-cigarettes have been a game changer. It’s scary watching children pick up these devices that contain harmful chemicals that they believe are totally harmless. People are not even sure how to approach a person who is using them. It’s hard to have that conversation without users saying they’re not harmful. Unfortunately, the education just isn’t there yet.

It’s scary watching children pick up these devices that contain harmful chemicals?”

You watched children pick up these devices? Allowed them to do so? How inappropriate of you – Since you’re an “anti-tobacco warrior” you think you’d stop them in the act.

Not harmful. Those are your words. That’s ambiguous, but much safer to an adult user than a cigarette. It’s far less harmful, oh great tobacco warrior. I’d say 95% safer, according to actual experts who’ve done research. You know, science.

(Psst, the education you so desire and can’t seem to find under your arrogance is here. No paywalls. No kidding.)

You’re right! E-cigarettes are a game-changer. Disruptive, aren’t they? They’re changing the world for the better. Let’s move on.


On claims that vaping can help cigarette smokers quit 

The science is still out. I believe that we have some proven methods for quitting, and that breaking the chain of addiction isn’t as simple as nicotine replacement therapy. There are other pieces of addiction—the social aspect, psychological triggers, stress—that have to be addressed. With vaping you’re not breaking those parts of addiction. You’re still putting harmful chemicals in your body and we have no idea what the long-term effects are.

Science is still out? Stopping smoking is now a science? Just showed you science – here it is again.

Nice try. The proven methods, “science” as you elude to on traditional quitting, “approved” methods are working so well.

Don’t help smokers quit? Huh, all these people must be lying in the U.K. ASH (Action on Smoking & Health – mentioned the words for you – just in case)

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So all these people (42% quit in one day. ONE DAY and they were NOT SMOKING tobacco) taking this survey lied as well?

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With vaping you’re replacing smoking. Really. You’re a tobacco warrior, put on your war face. Tobacco Harm Reduction. Don’t they teach that in your part of the tower?

Ohhh chemicals. Right. You’re good!

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Long term? I’m not smoking so I hope to outlive the lies.

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On that “addiction” word you all love to repeat, your favorite word after “children”.

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(Thank you AgentAnia)

Here’s an ANTI-TOBACCO’s approach, (Tobacco Harm Reduction.org), oh great warrior, on Nicotine Addiction.

On being David to Big Tobacco’s Goliath

I’ve always loved the underdog in a fight, so in that way I sort of love it. But it does feel intimidating to go up against the 1,000-pound gorilla in the room. What is most challenging is that we are held to these incredible standards of substantiation. We spend so much time poring over research in order to communicate the facts. Meanwhile the other side can say what they want and not have to adhere to those same standards.

You are the 1,000-pound gorilla. You are telling people cigarettes are just the same as e-cigarettes. You are held to incredible standards? Huh. My life is an incredible standard. I’ll get back to that in a minute.

Here’s some standards I’ve seen from “warriors”. I consider them “substandard” at best, but again, we’re talking opinions, right?

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On my standards I just have this. After over 30 years of smoking, trying all those “methods” – I stopped smoking in under 48 hours. That’s not opinion, Julie. That’s fact. There are MILLIONS of facts walking ’round the world, without lighting up a cigarette anymore. Imagine that?

Now – with over two years of using an e-cigarette,  my wife quit when I did – using one as well. That’s two years without combustible tobacco. Times two. Non-smokers. No tobacco. Imagine that.

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Feeling better was within a week – cough was GONE. Stunning. I was SO motivated to find truth, I did this survey of the real experts, with over 7,000 vapers themselves, from 72 countries.

The Vaping Truth Survey Final Analysis.

Imagine my surprise in this ongoing survey – take it if you like  – it seems about 84% disagree with you. Not just us common folks – these are real Medical & Health Care Professionals. What was your degree in again?

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Medical experts say many things so far in this still ongoing survey.

On facing threats from vaping activists

There has been a lot of vitriol expressed by pro-vapers online, and most of it has the same theme: trying to discredit the science. Many of us who work on these issues have received threats. There’s even something called the Vaping Militia that has bullied health educators at public forums. It has been scary. We want to allow for a dialogue with people who are supporters of these devices, but it has to be a productive conversation.

I have never threatened anyone. I’ve been on twitter a little while, never SEEN anyone threatened – heard of it, maybe it’s happened – shouldn’t!

On proper engagement – I’ve been blocked by Glantz, Chapman, quite a few others, like “Dr Campbell” above – but they don’t want to hear truth. They want to hear accolades and agreements with their versions of fluff – not even their own studies, just bloated old bores without meaning wanting the masses like ME to bleet like sheep at their lack of both intelligence and honesty. They want respect, they want nodding heads, attaboys – Well – start telling the truth if you want that.

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Productive conversations begin with harm reduction. Ecigarette-Research.Org shows science, research and education in all forms.

I’m shocked that a “Digital Communications Expert, Anti-Tobacco Warrior” like yourself can’t seem to find that.

Footnote: There’s no productivity when “experts” block.


On lessons from the front lines

I would say the work in tobacco control has mostly taught me about fighting the good fight. There are so many people out there who want to be rid of these products.

I’m more inspired by those people than I am scared of the bullies.

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I”m not bullying anyone. I’m stating facts. You’re perversion of those facts are influencing people to make decisions to continue smoking rather than get off tobacco. Feel good about yourself having the last word. Your “expertise” is questionable at best. Your effort to be a warrior is laughable and irresponsible.

Very irresponsible. So much so, you’re pretentious attitude and “expertise” can alter peoples decision to stay on combustible cigarettes. Good for you. Keep that up.

federalpolicyonresearchmisconductOhhh, that’s right, you didn’t cite any of your own research, you just jumped on the bandwagon.

You know who inspires me? People who are responsibly getting themselves off tobacco. Effectively, they’re doing your job. That must make you feel wonderful. Against everything including you – and people like you – spouting all the efforts of a seasoned “expert”, e-cigarettes are changing the world.


I’ll bet you one paycheck against yours, if you properly SEEK the truth and you properly engage ANY of these Professionals at M.O.V.E. – not one will “bully” you. Not ONE. They’ll tell you – not suggest – tell you what you should be saying. With proof. Science. Research.

What are you afraid of? You certainly didn’t allow for comments on sacmag.com – that must have meant you wanted control. The last word. Well, sweetie, you’re not getting it, history is.

We’re saving our own lives despite you and sadly, people like you.


Julie Lautsch’s “expertise” on ecigarettes and the complete article above without my comments

Who’s resume includes:

Thank you again, Agent!

So Julie! YOU’RE the “Media Unit” responsible for The CADPH marketing to kids!

is here for posterity: The Last Word: Julie Lautsch


As always, there’ll be more to come.

Keep On #Vaping On.

Vapers Claiming Side Effects Of ECigs – Despite VEHEMENT Efforts Of Stunned Experts!

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With any “treatment” to stop smoking, there seems to be side effects.

E-Cigarette users are clearly explaining below what effects they are experiencing with their use of this product.

The question is VERY clear to the participant .

With the question comes an answer.


:

Did you notice any NEGATIVE health or side effects once you were off tobacco using an e-cigarette?

Some reported more of this in their system.


There are some very clear and candid answers below.

These responses are unedited from around the world.


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  • There was a period with lots of coughing, and my gums where hurting. Turns out I had a lot of flim in my lungs, and my teeth and gums where reacting to increased bloodflow. Made me sceptical for a second, but got over it. NO REGRETS!

  • If anything I found my an increase in health. My breathing has increased with less coughing, my sense of smell had returned and I can smell things I never thought I could, and my sense if taste has come back so things taste way stronger (sugars and things are more sweet or tart)


  • I am purging toxins from smoking tobacco for 29 yrs. I did not experience withdrawals upon Vaping, quitting Tobacco the same day. In the first week of Vaping I know I lost 2-3lbs, this not expected. All is a process of recovery, and for the first time in my life, I am winning. I will not touch another Tobacco cig, the thought of smoking a cig makes me want to vomit.


  • The only negative effects were those associated with quitting smoking, coughing and expelling whatever had accumulated in my lungs over years of tobacco use.


  • In fact I have been getting a biannual medical for the last 18 years, my lung function was slowly but surely declining until I started ecigs, my first medical was after a year and three quarters of vaping and my lung function is fully restored and thats official.


  • Quitting smoking made my gums inflame and bleed, hidden gum infection was able to come forward with the returning blood flow after quitting. First 4 days i had bad withrawl even with extra strong nicotine levels, that made me doubt the nicotine as the addictive ingredient in a tobacco cigarette.


  • When I smoked tobacco I used to get out of breath with moderate excercise. When is started e-cigs I coughed frequently in the beginning, I think this was my body getting rid of the tar from tobacco in my lungs. The coughing stopped after a few months.


  • Infact, 6 months AFTER I started vaping (25 years after I started smoking), I was required to undertake a medical by my then employer, one of the tests was a lung capacity test, I scored well above average for a 42 year old man that had smoked for 25 years, actually, I scored as high as an 18 year old non-smoker, I think that pretty much proved the validity of vaping to me.


  • There were multiple positive, and some unanticipated, health effects of not smoking. Some temporary negative health effects of stopping smoking but mainly due to the fact that there are so little information of what happens when you stop smoking.


  • Only side effects associated with quitting cigarettes and ridding my body of 38 years of smoking. Once my body purged all that poison I only saw improvements. I am now able to walk 10 miles/day without being out of breath. No longer need an inhalant for asthma, and being able to walk helped in a variety of other health issues, so plusses all around


  • Heavy cough in the first 2 weeks, as the lung were “cleaning” themselves. Did also experience what is called “vapor fatigue, or vapor tongue”. someday taste just decided to stop. All flavors were completely muted. I freaked out a bit, went to a forum then again, community helped. Guy explaining what was happening. Followed the advices, taste was back in 2 days.


  • My feet & knees ache sometimes after taking up running. If I was still smoking I’d never be able to run 5 miles every other day. *snark*


  • My heart pains, shotness of breath and overall health seemed to improve dramatically. I had a time I could barely walk a few blocks without being winded .. now I walk my dog for an hour or two with zero issue.


  • MY HEALTH CAME BACK. I CAN BREATH AGAIN FINALLY AFTER STOPPING CIGGARETTES. EVEN ON AN ECIG i CAN BREATH PERFECTLY FINE AND MY DOCTOR THINKS I DONT USE ANYTHING DUE TO MY HEALTH.


  • I feel completely better, no coughing , don’t smell, more willing to get up and do things, like exercise, so many advantages from vaping compared to smoking. It’s a no brainer but the government don’t want us to vape cause they are loosing money, they want us to smoke, for there tax on tobacco. All this gateway stuff is rubbish, just trying to get vaping banned, don’t get me started. It’s a conspiracy by the powers that be to make stuff up about vaping, they don’t want people in authority saying it’s safe to vape.

  • Actually quite the reverse. Didn’t think because I dipped that I wouldn’t have or wouldn’t notice any differences after I quit dipping. I did though notice my taste and smell are much better now than when I was dipping. Haven’t smoked in a long time its been 5 years since I stopped smoking cigars, 20 years since I quit cigarettes. Just figured cause I dipped there wouldn’t be any changes, oh but there were.


  • I still have a bad ‘smokers cough’ from years of smoking damage. I now cough up a clear mucas in the mornings. It is unclear if this is Glycerine etc from Vaping, or mucas from an overproduction of mucus from lung damage/COPD


  • The tar leaving my lungs finally in phlegm form as a result of healing is not an issue to me.


  • The first 2 weeks, I started coughing quite a lot, and my gums started bleeding when brushing my teeth. Found out that was common when you quit smoking. Dry skin, dry throat, pimples appearing (despite my age). All negative side effects have vanished within 2-3 weeks.


  • My general health has improved massively, I get very few cold viruses now. I cycle to work and back every day. I have lost weight, It has been one of the most positive things I have ever done health wise.


This information in this blog is provided to you to make an INFORMED decision about your choice to end your tobacco use.

Look to the left and right for organizations & blogs – who are worldwide and there for you.

Join an organization. Be aware. Be active. MAKE some NOISE.

If you’re on the fence about vaping, there’s MILLIONS of experienced vapers worldwide who can help you if you’re still unsure.


Added 02/02/17

from ecigarettedirect.co.uk

PG Allergy & Sensitivities: Diagnosis and Solution!

 


WHERE are the dangerous side effects the experts claim? The propaganda and misinformation efforts worldwide is ASTOUNDING from people and organizations who are AGAINST tobacco. I’ll type that again. The people below are against smoking. Tobacco.

You’d think the expert would be correct, done research and giving the BEST advice for anything they’re claiming expertise IN.

I digress. They’re not experts. Vapers are. WE who USE these devices KNOW what we experience.

Before we journey into the abyss of misinformation by these “experts” in health, medicine, tobacco control and idiocy in “journalism”…

let me explain the

FEDERAL POLICY on RESEARCH MISCONDUCT.

With a photo.

In the United States, there’s this:

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UPDATE 4/24/16

Former FDA Commissioner Charged in RICO Lawsuit

But wait a minute, Kevin! If they’re against tobacco, wouldn’t they be FOR e-cigarettes? That would be insane!


Well, my fair weathered friend, let me assure you

“I am not just another pretty face”.

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By U.S. standards,

I say they ARE breaking the law.

The R.I.C.O. Act, for example.

Lawmaker says anti-tobacco agency may be breaking law by opposing vaping


Lets start off with JUST a FEW examples of what is considered at least irresponsibility with misinformation by people who “should” KNOW BETTER, and by my standards, breaking the law, shall we? I’ll call them “Defendants”.


Simon Chapman “Tobacco Control” experts …is just one of my favorites:

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Dr. Gounder can’t do research:

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A Tobacco Control Organization…

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Another fine example of stupidity:

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The Mechanic’s View

“Professor” Stanton Glantz:

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The CDC – FISHING.

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Politicians. No different. Same lack of standards.

Senator Mark Leno:

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CDC Director Tom Frieden lying about inflated numbers using “children” incessantly.

Three times on the same day?

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The SURGEON GENERAL????

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The LGBT HealthLink twitter account deleted this –

one of the most irresponsible tweets or claims I’ve ever seen:

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Another claim… yet no proof.

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I added this in for the entertainment value, the SENIOR MANAGER of SCIENCE POLICY communications at the American Association for CANCER research can’t find RESEARCH.

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Steven Chester?

Some flunkie from Denver.

I think he is a writer – don’t know -he blocked me.

Oh…. lookie there…. He’s an expert, too.

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The insidious claims still being circulated around the world by “experts” are just that.

Claims.

VapeMeStoopid has a running and STUNNING

list of idiots here well worth the visit.

Well, do they want citizens uninformed to keep smoking?

Why would they do that? Revenue.

Plausible Deniability.



They’re still USINGChildren” and “Long Term”.

Aren’t you all dead yet from vaping?

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Added 3/17/16:

Ecigs Health Effects R Cranfield Nov 24 2015.pdf


From the last survey:

Nicotine Reduction Therapy, What’s really safe? The Truth & Perspective on the Gum, Patch & Drugs Over E-Cigs.:


Here are the “Side Effects” vapers spoke of on the last survey



For Scientific Research on E-Cigarettes Click Here.

Medical Professionals know better and ARE here in support of e-cigarettes at M.O.V.E.


Here is Public Health England on E-cigarettes:

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There is something coming… it’s a documentary. A Billion Lives. I’m SURE the defendants above aren’t looking forward to this.

I am.

The fight isn’t over. It’s only just begun.

Here they are on Twitter:  https://twitter.com/ABillionLives

Facebook: https://twitter.com/ABillionLives

Their Website: http://ABillionLives.com/


Here, added for importance 12/13/15

“Popcorn” lung came up again in the news.

I suggest a tall glass of liquid to hydrate due to the high salt

The WONDERFUL folks over at Vapers.Org.UK

released a Special Edition on 12/12/15:

I suggest a tall glass of liquid to hydrate due to the high salt content!

A Bucket Of Popcorn.


You can sponsor the blog & website here if you like.

As always, more to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

Pounding Sand. I am proudly a guest on @vapemestoopid!

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Pounding Sand – Guest blog by

@Vapingit with Commentary by VMS

Kevin and I got to talking a couple days ago and we came up with this crazy confusing idea because we were both thinking about blogging on pretty much the same things. Instead of us both blogging on our respective sites, I asked Kevin if he’d like to do a dual blog post with me. He writes his initial blog and I respond with my 2 cents. You end up with 2 small time advocates views and opinions on pretty much the same subjects, but it’s a dialogue and not just one sided. My responses will be in purple and bold.

Kevin: A couple weeks ago, there was a vaping meet in New Jersey. If you’re reading this, you probably already know there was no vaping allowed.

VMS: I am still completely baffled as to why anyone would organize an event in a state with a public vaping ban. It makes no sense whatsoever!

Kevin: I’m a non-scientific kind of guy. I had a back & forth on a thought months ago with another person I respect via email –  We, I don’t remember who “thought” of it, but we were discussing what else we could DO to benefit our cause. That conversation turned to me attending a vape meet, and one of us said – what a great place to monitor the air!

A vape meet would be the PERFECT place. Stick some monitors up on booths. Put some on the entry/exit signs. Don’t even tell anyone. Just do it, lets find out what’s in the air, good or bad. By good or bad, I mean GOOD or BAD.

VMS: I too thought this was a great idea and I still do. Just like when Dr. Farsalinos tested e-liquid for diacetyl content the results were largely NOT in our favour as a community or an industry. I still find it upsetting that this information, up until recently, has been ignored by some of our leading e-liquid manufacturers. It took Five Pawns being outed by Cloud 9 for their diacetyl and AP levels to get companies to start making a change. Why the delay when we have had clear NEGATIVE evidence that this problem existed? 

Kevin: Well, with the Jersey thing this weekend, someone on a facebook group said something about the Health Department missing a great opportunity to do just that. I agreed. It went to twitter, I tagged Carl Phillips, Chief Scientific Officer at CASAA
where I was told:

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Well, maybe it’s me, but that seemed condescending. Again, I’m not a scientist, more of a lover of vape. I intentionally don’t want to find out it violates OSHA standards, I want to find out that it doesn’t. Come down to my level a moment.

That felt at a first GlANTZ that I was being told to pound sand – aaand I digress. I played stupid, but don’t understand.

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But there’s this, *Carl from you in June *I’m a huge fan!) :
http://antithrlies.com/2015/06/03/notes-from-the-fda-e-cigarette-workshop/

VMS: Carl is a difficult one. The limited communication I have had with him through twitter has always been swift and to the point. At times, it felt harsh. I’m not sure if this is just down to it being social media and an inability to convey emotion through 140 characters or just the way it comes across. No matter, really. Carl is a great asset to the cause.


Back to Farsalinos diacetyl study. I am prepared to accept negative results. Results that can create a positive change. If we find out that the air quality at large events like this is really bad for us, then that only serves for us to improve the way we conduct these events. If we are going to keep claiming that our vaper in small quantity is harmless to bystanders and ourselves, then we should know what it is doing to us and bystanders on a larger scale.


Kevin: On Facebook, it was handled a bit differently.

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Kevin: For better or worse, why HASN’T it been done? Why NOT? I’m still, even after the few paragraphs you’ve read, not a scientist. Let say out in Sunny California, there was, or will be a meet. Someone REALLY wants to do this on the anti-vaping side of our lives. THEY get the information and plaster it all over the news on the worst possible outcomes. Yes… and we’re sitting ducks. Trying to chase the truth down between their propaganda and lies like the old familiar formaldehyde stupidity.

VMS: So maybe an air test at a vape meet isn’t a great idea but a large indoor air study IS. Let’s encourage companies to put money towards a controlled large scale indoor air study then? We see how quick some of them are to support campaigns like #NotBlowingSmoke, so maybe we can get them to support some more research too? My biggest concern is that someone like Glantz who has the money available to him, will get this done before WE do. We all know how people like him would spin the data and the nano-particles. Why can’t we be on the offensive for once in this game?

Kevin: How the valuable resources were attained to debunk the formaldehyde scare are beyond me. Time and money. So, it leads ME to believe we should proactively take any sensible suggestion – *I thought it was a sensible thought* – and go with it to have it in OUR hands. Both for the vaper and anyone else.  Proactively. That’s my thought.

This study found on Vape About It concludes:
“…new study published in the Dec. 2014 issue of Regulatory Toxicology and Pharmacology found conclusive data that the vapor emitted from e-cigs and personal vapor devices is non-toxic. In other words, vaping is safe.”

They do this at ice rinks.
They do this at indoor motor-cross events.

Among other things, if it is already deemed “safe” and the second/third hand studies were also debunked, why NOT go all out at a vape meet, or at least a good Saturday afternoon at a large scale Brick & Mortar? Why NOT?

VMS: I don’t see a good enough reason why not. “Handing the ANTZ” ammunition isn’t a good enough excuse anymore. If we don’t tackle and combat it before they do, then they surely have all the ammunition they need. “They had the opportunity to test it, but all they care about is getting you addicted to nicotine and not about the safety of the product.” We already have this fight on our hands. It doesn’t matter what move we make as long as we are always on the defensive. I have the utmost respect for Carl and Greg both, but I simply don’t agree with burying our heads in the sand. As a vaper and a consumer that supports AVA and CASAA, I was disappointed by both of their responses, but can also understand where they are coming from. I do think that this is something that needs further discussion by the “heads” of our community though and should not be ignored or passed off as being another silly idea.


Kevin: It probably has been done and there was no conclusive evidence to it being “bad”… or they’d have pounded us with it, or it really hasn’t been done to a “vape meet arena scale”.

SO, why NOT? Well, if arenas are too big why not do it at a weekend full vape shop. Lets put it to the test. Lets FIND out what is in it. Anyone reading this who’s in the environmental field got an idea as to how?

So, what are we hiding? If it hasn’t been done by us, shame on us. If it’s been done by “Glantz” or some other anti, they’d be ALL over it if it were bad. Just like the “aiming at children” packaging, nobody wants to bring THAT up until recently. Sadly, it’s been being brought up for some time. Why not get ahead of it? Why WAIT until we’re sideswiped by a big ANTZ truck full of what they WANT to tell us. If we’re not LEADING this industry in research, we’re all pounding sand.

VMS: Again, I have to agree here. We need to be on the ball and get on the offensive. No data is bad data, bad data is bad data, but GOOD data even if it has BAD results, can be improved upon. Also, to be fair, I don’t think the community is really hiding anything, I think some of us are just more reluctant in wanting to KNOW. Does that make sense?


Kevin: I do “what I can” to support and advocate. Sometimes I’m spot on, sometimes I’m out of line.
I DO what I can. I don’t like waiting, I like action. I don’t like being told to shut up. I don’t like being told “don’t talk about that”. I don’t like being suppressed. This is TOO frigging important.

VMS: I had an entire blog written up and dedicated to this subject. The “little advocates” compared to the big advocates. I haven’t published it yet because it’s mostly me getting really frustrated and angry.

Lately though, I have seen too many “that’s silly” “we can’t do that” “don’t do that” “been there done that it didn’t work” “why didn’t you run this past me first” and the one I hate the most, “let us deal with it”.

I have watched every day people, those working as a cashier or a stay at home mom, who want to get involved in advocacy, who are trying their best with what little they know, get told they’re basically a nuisance, that they’re in the way, and incapable of coming up with any good ideas that support the cause.

This treatment of the “little advocates” is unacceptable in my opinion. Us little people with tiny voices and a lack of experience put a lot of these people on point as our front men & women and those people accepted that responsibility. With that responsibility should come the decency to treat us “little advocates” with patience and respect. If we don’t deserve that at the very least…

Know what I think? Screw them. No one in this industry, any company or another advocate tells me what I can and can’t do and none of you should let them tell you either. Suggestions are great, advice is amazing, but if they shoot you down and make you feel like a fool, fuck them. Find someone/something else to put your support in and don’t let it defeat your purpose!

If your message is STRONG, if it can be backed up by evidence and you are prepared to defend your message, then go for it! Either people will pay attention or they won’t. Do NOT let anyone in this community tell you that your THOUGHTS or IDEAS or EFFORTS to protect this product are ‘not good enough”. 

 


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Kevin: I will do what Dr. Farsalinos said above, at any cost, including questioning integrity.

VMS: In the last 6 months I have watched many people change their stance on what to fight and what not to fight. 3 months ago, letting companies know that we thought their kid friendly logos were bad, was a GOOD idea and was ENCOURAGED. Now? It’s “who cares?” “this is an adult product being sold to adults in an adult store.” Funny that because 3 months ago that’s not what I was hearing. Reminder, the ANTZ are still attacking child friendly branding, it is still a problem and it is one that our community CAN CHANGE. Put your money where your mouth is. Tell these companies you don’t like their branding, why you don’t approve of it, and then endeavor to buy products from other companies who clearly care about protecting this product.

It’s the same thing with the Diacetyl and AP issues. Here in the UK and Canada, measures were taken to remove products from sale that contained levels that were deemed unsafe, yet the US has kind of just ignored it.  This is another incident where I read that we should just be quiet about it and let other people deal with it in in private and away from the public. Erm. No.

If a company is playing Russian Roulette with my health, I am not going to sit here and let them get away with it while I’m told to shut up and let other more experienced people deal with it…behind closed doors where we (the public) have no idea what’s being done to correct theses issues! Uh uh. Not happening. Same as above, tell a company you don’t like their test results and move to a brand that has results YOU are happy with.


Kevin: I also believe this:

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VMS: One voice may be small and quiet, but when we put all our voices together, we become loud and thunderous.


 

On an inspirational tweet, I created this. We’ve got petitions.

E-cigarette & Vaping Petitions Worldwide

Profile photo of GuestBlogger

Guest Blogger Account here on the VMS Website. If you would like to post an opinion piece, please click on the SUBMIT POST link found in the websites navigation menu. We love to hear and share your opinions about vaping, the politics involved, as well as reviews of your new vaporizers!Opinions expressed by guest bloggers may not necessarily be the same held by this websites owner or other authors on this site.


This blog was left intact – I copied/pasted it on this blog above.

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UPDATE November 2015:

VapeCons: E-cigarette user conventions

conclusion

 

Update February 2016:

Look what happened months after this blog:

 

Clive Bates:

Public health snoopers detect vapour aerosol at vape conference and fake a particulates scare

The original is here Pounding sand: Guest blog @vapingit: Commentary by VMS

Please GO see her!!! Vape Me Stoopid!


Science & Research as mentioned above here!

Medical Professionals at M.O.V.E. here!


As always,

Keep On #Vaping On~

Kevin.


Medical Professionals Say WHAT About E-Cigarettes?

p01I have been asking Medical Professionals some questions about e-cigarettes. It’s that important.

I’ll let you skim down them and get on your way, but will blog them when the survey is over in detail.

Here’s what they’ve said to me so far.



85% say they are safer than combustible cigarettes.

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Have you as a professional, received any information from an association or any organization about e-cigarettes?

Well some have!

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74% TELL their patients that e-cigarettes are an option.

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66% say their patient has

stopped smoking

with an e-cigarette.

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54% list their patients as NON-Smokers, non – tobacco users.

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74% have noticed changes in health of patients directly related with their e-cigarette use.

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Please! Talk amongst yourselves!

Don’t let me interrupt!

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POSITVE respiratory, cardiovascular and increased activity tolerance are DULY noted in patients.

So far, about +/- 1% say they see anything negative with e-cigarette use in their patients.

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89% say nicotine is like caffeine, or a stimulant.

22% say it’s addictive.

3% say it is dangerous.

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64% would definitely

recommend e-cigarettes.

15% are cautious, but would recommend them as well.

7% would never recommend them.

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I have tweeted this to some of the biggest names in “Tobacco Control”, including the Centers for Disease Controls top Doctor, Dr. Frieden. Stanton Glantz. Simon Chapman. Many others. They all still have a chance to speak their mind.

Evidently, it’s not that important for them to do so.


Any Medical Professional worldwide is encouraged to take this survey about E-cigarettes. I want the truth from you.

Doctors, Nurses, Researchers, Surgeons, Pharmacists, Specialists, Technicians, Dentists, Assistants,Tobacco Control & Smoking Cessation… 

Experts are encouraged.

If you’re a Medical Professional, this survey is still ongoing here.

If you are curious about e-cigarette research, it’s here.

Medical Professionals are here in support of e-cigarettes at M.O.V.E.


If you’re a VAPER,

Please take my

The new “Vaping Truth Survey” is HERE.

Please take Dr. Russell’s survey:

Your Perceptions and Experiences of Using Electronic Cigarettes


As always,

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin



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Has your Doctor noticed you’re educating THEM?

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You PROUDLY tell your Doctor, Medical – Health Professional:

“I quit smoking” with e-cigs”!

The success in not smoking is profound in a smoker turned non-smoker’s mind.

It is a personal VICTORY.

It is one accomplishment some thought and were convinced

they never would attain.


I “met” Ray online at the end of last year. He is a self-admitted “old crank”. I love old cranks.

Please see Ray’s story here.

Some in this survey are 40 – 50 year smokers.


The pride in telling your health professional the many things is a great feeling.


Some would like to continue the misleading statements & rhetoric of the old school stupidity.

Many motives for doing so.

Some in the public health arena would like to consider e-cigarettes the same as smoking. They would rather you still feel defeated –

NOW condemning you for doing what they’ve told you to DO all along.


Some are simply irresponsible. Dr. Gounder claims she is:

doctor / internal medicine / infectious diseases / domestic & global public health / medical journalism

on her Twitter Profile.

I say she’s other things. One of those start with Lazy.



I presume she just can’t find research on the internet. Huh.

A “professional”. Stating “medical journalism” is like me saying I’m a Doctor, I suppose.

I must have the credentials by now!

Make a NOTE to yourself as you see the graphic below –  these are statements unfounded, and just believed or contrived by ANOTHER person.

Not their “own” thoughts. Clickbait.

Does Dr. Gounder, have HER own research? Imagine? “Because someone else says so, it must be true”.

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We know they are not. Imagine the irresponsibility of Dr. Gounder in HER statements.

She’s not the only one.



We have SCIENCE & Research here.

We have Medical Professionals WORLDWIDE here.

Here’s a glance at what the comments are from vapers worldwide from this survey

Please click here to take

The Vaping Truth Survey

it if you haven’t!


These are YOUR voices.. Again, these are worldwide, from 47 countries, just a part of over 2,400 participants,

language & spelling is intact. Unedited.

Question 28: Has your Doctor/Health Care provider noticed and/or noted these changes in your medical records since using an e-cigarette


My doctor is very positive to gaping even though she has never smoked or tried it herself. Today, 5:47AM
Doctor commented that it had been a long time since she’d seen me. I told her I felt a LOT better all of the time since I’d switched to an e-cigarette. She congratulated me and encouraged me to stay smoke-free.
My dentist said ” wow you quite smoking” before I had a chance to explain how.
I’m a guy. I don’t go to doctors unless dying
My Doctor has encouraged me to stick to the e-cigarettes as an alternative to smoking.
Really see doctor so not aware but dentist and hygienist both very positively in favour of ecigs
Have actually helped educate my doctor on ecigarettes and vaping.
My lung capacity has increased
my dr did not encourage it but does now
Im from canada. It does work that way here.
After a year and a half observing the changes in me, my doctor has opened up and truly listened to what I could tell him about the benefits of vaping to quit smoking.
My family doctor said it was a great way to get away from smoking
recently had surgery due to a fracture – not all Canadians can walk on water (ice). The surgeon viewed it as quitting smoking. I recently found a new family doctor who has her doubts.
My Doctor / Health Care provider encouraged it. & I am listed as a non-smoker on my health insurance as well.
I have not had a reason to see a Dr since switching to ecigs.I haven’t even had so much as a chest cold in over 2yrs since switchinng to ecigs.
My A1C went down, my blood pressure went down, I feel 100% better in just seven months.
At my last visit I was one year smoke free, doctor congratulated me. When I told him the only way I could finally quit was using vapor products, he stated I should consider quitting them as well. I am looking for a new doctor now!
Lungs cleared
All the reasons my doctor gave me to quit smoking are fixed, but he still suggests my vape will cause worse damage.
The cardiovascular specialist was the one that encouraged it – he was absolutely delighted the last time I saw him and told him I was switching. For him, it was the carbon monoxide from smoking that was the primary culprit and risk factor in my PVD. The internist not so much, but the dramatic change in my health since 2008 and my total lack of need for acute visits since then speak for themselves.
Insurance counts me a a tobacco user to get a surcharge added.
I don’t go to the doctor often.
I told my doctor but I do not know if I am listed as a non-smoker.
I am no longer a “smoker”!!

Doctor considers me a former smoker, just as she would if I were using nicotine gum or patches.

My long time doctor has noticed switching in blood tests. She says she cannot advocate the use of e-cigs but also says I should not go back to smoking what I smoked before. She works for a private health company tho and she has to follow company policy – she has implied to me in many ways that the absence of pack-a-day smoking is doing wonders, regardless of the substitute.
Seldom see doctor, get impression he/she wouldn’t be interested. Asthma nurse very impressed said “Whatever you’re doing keep on doing it” Listed me as ex-smoker.

I told my doctor that I vape and he said “but you’re not smoking, right” I said “no” and he said “that’s good”

Only been vaping exclusively 5 months and no scheduled appt’s yet
My Doctor considers me a non smoker and has changed his attitude toward ecigarettes since he has seen the physical proof. I have been using a cpap machine for over 3 years; my sleep therapy consultant has recorded a reduction in my dependence on my machine.
my dentist noticed a difference
My life assurance company class me as a non smoker now
My health teast were better. Alot better
Dr asked when I gave up, (at the time I last saw him,) and I said 3 years ago, but that I still use ecigs. He put me down as a non-smoker. 🙂

I also have a friend that had a heart attack that was a heavy smoker! His doctor told him to quit tobacco that day and if he wanted nicotine then he needed to start vaping! Or quit all together! He vapes and his doctor says his heart is doing well!

My doctor is amazed that I was able to quit and to stay off of cigarettes, but still isn’t so sure that e-cigarettes are OK.

Astounding information.

Please keep it up!

EDUCATE your health professionals!

Please take the Vaping Truth Survey here!


Here’s a couple examples as to what THEY are SAYING so far:

Medical Professionals say

WHAT about E-Cigarettes?

IF you ARE a health professional

Please take the

Health Care Professionals survey here!



As always,

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin.

Shame, Guilt, Fear, Pressure & Refusal. The Former Smoker.

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Was there a reason for you to stop tobacco use?

I’ve asked you that very question. Interestingly enough, you’ve answered! Health  reasons and MANY other answers to stop tobacco use from family members having cancer to having children come up.

For this blog specifically, I’ve chosen the ones I felt expressed guilt, shame, pressure or “refusal” to stop tobacco use.

REFUSAL.

You’ll see that shortly. These are YOUR voices. Your comments.


Keep in mind, we’re vaping. We’ve stopped smoking- for the most part – stopped tobacco use, and the Governments, Public Health & more are all on the boat to criticizing us for NOT smoking.

Imagine how they’re trying to shame, guilt and pressure us AGAIN

for something that is NOT smoking.

I’m doing my best – with your help, to not let that happen.


Was there a reason for you to stop tobacco use?

I’m going to let these answers speak for themselves.

 

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Unedited as you left them, so far – over 2,000 of you from 47 countries around the world are speaking out again.

I’ve chosen but a few comments left on the survey so far.


Needed to stop “stinking”, my selfesteem got too low, withdrew from social settings

was even refused medical treatments while smoking

First time family asked was a bad experience said I would never do it again. Second, girl friend at the time,now she’s my wife, dragged me kicking to a vape shop tried a few flavors in two weeks was able to buy all the stuff needed and was off cigs totally.

I cried myself to sleep MANY nights fearing I would never be able to quit smoking cigarettes

My granddaughter at age 20 months saw me smoke for the first time, March of 2015. I not to smoke inside her parents house, I always went out side. She and I were outside. I was standing 20 feet from her. I was smoking. She squished up her face that she could smell my cigarette and she said, No No, NO gamma, * oh the Shame, I put it out instantly, that I then was god I wish there was a miracle that I could quit! – it came the next month.

For me, my family pleaded with me for years to quit, my wife pleaded with me constantly to at least try to quit. Inside, after failing so many times to quit, I felt hopeless and alone. Dying by my own hand, and felt somewhat left out by the medical community at large. The condemnation by my doctor for still smoking was a sting to me.

How could nobody  understand how much I was affected by the absence of even small doses of nicotine. The rage and mental fuzziness that  I experienced from the total lack of nicotine fell on deaf, or condescending ears. Was it something inherently wrong with me? No, My brain had been forever altered when my mother smoked to term with me, and I was pre-destined for a nicotine addiction. Not my fault, and nothing morally wrong with the consequence of this. I am just one who is in need of nicotine for normal brain function. Vaping offers this to me, with the added benefit of harm reduction.

I was being shamed and guilted into trying to stop by society. I was a second class citizen as a smoker; discriminated against in a way which would be illegal if it were done to any other section of society. I was happier smoking for the perceived benefits of the habit – weighed less, less depressed, less stressed – but hassled endlessly by the anti smoking propaganda.

My children wanted me to quit so i would be around for a long time. Since quitting i am able to play with my kids without getting winded as easily.

I thought I enjoyed smoking, but knew it was not healthy and felt shame that I could not just give it up. I made quit attempts, but I wanted to smoke more than I wanted to stop.

around 1980 -kids were little and many in my peer (church) group did not smoke

I was total that surgeons will not operate on smokers, being obese doesn’t help as well.

My boyfriend and I went too a party one night and we were the ONLY smokers there; everyone else was vaping, we went into our local b&m the next day and made the switch.

i felt dirty using cigarettes.

Due to the constant persecursion of smokers and not being able to smoke anywhere.

The more nagging by government,employers workmates the more determined I was not to quit.


Those are just a FEW examples of what you’ve said. YOUR voices.

I thank you for it.


See Ecigarette Research.Org here

See M.O.V.E. Here.


As always, Keep On Vaping On

Kevin.

Lying BASTARDS.

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SB140. I’ll jump on the bandwagon.


I’d LOVE to gloat. I’d love to put this pie in Mr. Leno’s face.

I’d LOVE to take Mr. Leno & Professor GlANTZ to breakfast and explain to them that their efforts are implying to others that this is tobacco,

only for their greed of contributions & funding as seen HERE.

Their efforts are costing lives. Their efforts are deterring people from trying to stop smoking.

MANY were involved in this particular bill. But I digress, as I often do in the vaping world.


Update 5.30.2016:

Clueless Legislators Deter Smokers From Vaping


What I see: It’s important to have taxes, but not for saving lives.

What Mr. Leno tweeted in January.

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What I see: It’s ensuring that there’s taxes like tobacco, but not for saving lives and taking people away from tobacco.

What Mr. Leno tweeted in April.

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What I see: This is a MUST position. Regulation is necessary!

It’s IMPORTANT! Imagine!!!! The next generation being lost to toxic nicotine!!!! CHILDREN!!!!!!!!

What Mr. Leno tweeted June 2nd.

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What I see: Now there’s concern, with false statements that “children” are important.

What Mr. Leno Tweeted on July 7th.

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THEN suddenly , Mr. Leno and various organizations find there’s no tax on tobacco, and it becomes unimportant and dangerous. Really????? Imagine that. Here’s just ONE example. Removing the ability to TAX e-cigarettes suddenly DEFEATED the bill? lenobreathe


It wasn’t about children. It wasn’t about addiction. It wasn’t about health. It was about revenue. Imagine the resources, cash & public FUNDS to go at this with such a fever, and then just let it drop. Imagine what every politician is doing when they’re “against” e-cigarettes.

Update 7/19/15

Now that there’s taxes on e-cigarettes redefined and his way- suddenly it’s important again: http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520162SB5


They’re coercing the public into believing their fairy tales for revenue. Legallly. Imagine the lives they are affecting in the process.

Well. I question your integrity you greedy LYING bastards. You want people to smoke. You WANT Revenue. It’s a PONZI SCHEME


We have proof e-cigs are safer. We have science they refuse to recognize for their own agendas. Ecigarette-Research.Org


Vaping and e-cigarettes take us away from tobacco. Politicians & organizations like Breathe California are looking to replace funds from declining sales of tobacco.

““I no longer believe in it. None of my sponsors believe in it … I dissociate myself from it,” Leno said.

http://vapeaboutit.com/californias-e-cigarette-bill-sb-140-dropped-by-author-sen-mark-leno/

I want you to be pissed off this is happening in the United States. I want you to be pissed off THIS is happening WORLDWIDE


 

I want you to know M.O.V.E is also a great organization.


Consumers: I want you to be aware, look on the right & left of this blog. Join a group. Advocate and make some NOISE. Surveys. Polls. I want you PISSED off & well aware. DO Something.


Vendors:  YOU have the audience to make a difference, or you are Guilty By Association.


This fight is NOWHERE near over. This is ongoing. Governments and Organizations. They support the following options. Taxing. Regulating. Restricting. Banning. Who benefits?


I want you STEAMING mad. I want you to do what you can. I contribute with this blog. Surveys. EVERYONE’S actions are important. I’m nobody. I do what I can. MANY do – We’re. Fighting For LIVES..


I want you to do what this Doctor says: fight


What’s it cost to vape? Great question. What’s your life worth? I want you and those who DON’T know any better yet to be ABLE to Keep ON #Vaping On.

 

Kevin.

Guilty By Association. HELLO!

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PETITIONS:

E-Cigarette Petitions

I, with hundreds – thousands actually – of others – tweet my ass of at politicians. “Experts”. Doctors. The CDC. Directors of organizations. Tie wearing wanna be scientists who are actually journalists. Tobacco control “experts” with sociology and mechanical degrees, upset that they aren’t real doctors or scientists, so far out of their domain in the e-cig/vaping world, they think there’s smoke in vaping. Doctors with NO clue as to what they’re saying. Going on the latest “study”. Nothing of their own. They spout others studies falsely attaining a hundred retweets to gain only popularity in the latest lie. Sometimes proper engagement is called for, sometimes I go all 10 year old on ’em.


Then there’s the others. MUCH smarter than I am. I admire so many. They keep ME in check at times.

Friends On Twitter.

Then there are Vendors. Of those 4,000 or so on my list I’d venture to say there are thousands.


Broony, down under…

posed this question.

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I don’t either. I don’t understand…..

I tweeted this petition yesterday – not only to get the word out – but to “see” if vendors would retweet it.

PETITIONS:

E-Cigarette Petitions

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Sadly I was disappointed.

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I won’t say ALL vendors were online yesterday morning. I won’t say EVERY vendor on my list following me saw this tweet.

I will say NO vendor, reviewer or brick & mortar retweeted this tweet with complete confidence.

YOU HAVE THE AUDIENCE!!! USE THAT!

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What do you want, Kevin? Retweets?

Um, nope. You can copy it, tweet it as if it were your own for all I care. SOME of you DO.


Another one caught my eye as they will.

I try very hard not to promote vendors. Not that I don’t want to, it’s that there are SO many of you – who would I pick?

I have not used ONE vendor product/eliquid on my list, but I know I’ve heard good things about a few of them via other tweets, other people I follow & some reviewers.

I understand to SOME extent you, as a vendor – brick & mortar –  have an image to uphold. I get it.

I also get that if you don’t become involved, you’re in jeopardy of losing it all.

“It can’t happen to me”.

If you don’t “lose it all”, you’ll just pass on the cost to the customer, right? Go ahead, you didn’t educate your customers, and can pass it off like you didn’t know…..It’s YOUR BUSINESS to KNOW.

Explain a SEVENTY PERCENT SALES TAX to your customer.

Links to Trade Organizations are at the top left of this blog-

and if I typed correctly  – they’re on the right as well->>>>

Well, “there were legal battles, I did what I could and now I’m struggling to stay in business”.

Think about that statement before you have to say it. “It can’t happen to me”.

Am I wrong? Will people go to online sales and forget about you?

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Did you forget why you are doing what you do? Helping people. Doing what you love. Making money in the process.

Am I right? Who cares, it’s not about right or wrong at this point……….I digress.


510ego.com is one example of a vendor who is actively engagingwell enough I’d take the time to screen shot it and point it out in my silly little blog.

I’ll point out & can’t point out enough that some of you do. There ARE other vendors/reviewers and brick/mortars who advocate as well, (you know who you are). If the shoe fits. 510ego.com DOES engage.


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Continues to do so.

PETITIONS:

E-Cigarette Petitions


More importantly, you know if you DON’T. The vendors who will be pissed off at this blog. That’s who.

If you don’t have links to calls to action, don’t think of tweets on your own or retweet imperative information, you’re not a member of a trade group, if you’re not actively involved in showing your customers there are organizations actively seeking to regulate, tax, restrict & ban across the world,

Restrictions, Bans, Laws. Page One.

Restrictions, Bans, Laws. Page TWO.

You can kindly and unceremoniously unfollow me.

Really. Kiss my vaping ass.

I’d rather you didn’t, I’d rather work together and inspire each other. Your choice.


PETITIONS:

E-Cigarette Petitions

If you’re running an actual business, you know – with paying taxes & licensed in your state, consider

Focusing on a customer who has interest in your product to stop smoking.

Keeping that customer. The opportunity to educate that customer is in your hands.

Joining a trade group. Tell customers about associations. TELL them what is going on.

Graphic below Courtesy @VaEHp on Twitter:

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YOU have the power.

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How are you going to keep that customer if you are regulated, taxed, restricted or banned out of business?

PETITIONS:

E-Cigarette Petitions

You’ll be sweeping up the floor wondering how you went out of business.

Here’s my handcheck.

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Here’s Alan Beard’s View



If you’re ONLINE, you can have links on your site. What does that cost you?

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If you’re a brick & mortar, you can have *idea stolen from someone on facebook*

a monitor running vaping videos from MANY sources.

You can have a touch screen / computer kiosk where bookmarks are on your counter.

LINK some important sites.

http://nicotinepolicy.net/

http://gfn.net.co/

http://www.ecigarette-politics.com/

http://www.clivebates.com/

http://vapers.org.uk/

http://nnalliance.org/

http://www.vapourtrails.tv/

http://www.ecigarette-research.org/research/index.php

http://sciencecig.wordpress.com/


Pick some from either side of this blog.

Educate your customers. USE those resources. Most of them are by donation only.

Q. What’s it cost to ? Great question! What’s your life worth?

PETITIONS:

E-Cigarette Petitions


Click here to take

“The Vaping Truth Survey”


Here’s an example of who we’re fighting for.

She Walked In To A Vape Shop.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

Trying Ecigarettes. Were You Skeptical?

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The patches, gums, inhalers & the like over the years have placed our faith in anything working. To stop smoking. Doesn’t work.

Enter the e-cigarette. Not only does it work, it surprised most of us as to how well and how quickly.


I too, was skeptical. I was thinking it’s just another gadget. I stopped smoking accidentally within 2 days. Well. I was pleasantly surprised. My choice to stop using tobacco had come. There was an empowerment over something that had ruled my life, and now that control, if you will, was over.

In just the first over 24 hours, over 600 worldwide came to answer 51 questions in my 2nd “amateur” survey.

The Vaping Truth Survey…

take it here if you haven’t.

Yes, it’s long. Is it worth it? I think so.

You might say it is SO “one-sided” and leaning towards the positive views on vaping.

You might even say, Kevin, this only shows our side. Ummm YEAH!

Bias you may even say? Why yes, yes it is.

Norbert Zillitron answers that question quite eloquently about bias (and quickly I may add) ——–>  Beneficial Bias


Most of the reports about e-cigarettes & vaping are presuming. Negative. Assuming. Presumptuous. Egotistical. Maniacal in some instances to say “it doesn’t work”. “They quit after a short period of time”, “They’re dangerous”. Lots of innuendo and made up facts. Misconstrued facts. Deterring those who might otherwise try it.

I’m asking the questions in the survey above to show what we say about vaping. Put yourself in the mind of someone who is still afraid. Someone who is still contemplating trying an e-cig. Someone who’s listened to the drooling expert looking for new hits to his new book.

The perspective of vaping from YOU, in part, is what I am looking for. For many reasons, but one is to show that person thinking about it – what WE say.

You’re already doing it, and I thank you for it.

We’re counter-acting the negative pro-actively. We’re simply telling our side truthfully.

These are your words.These are your voices in about 24 hours.

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 I didn’t think it would work well enough for me to quit, everything else I had tried had failed.

i tried first a cgi-a-like (1st gen) and it didn’t worked (no satisfaction, nicotine craving, leaks,…). Then a few month later a friend told me about new models and he was tobacco free by this time. So i gave a second chance, without any expectations. 3 days after i crushed my last cigarette, and it’s been 2 years now.

I hoped they would help me quit tobacco and save money too

I was skeptical because of the lack of trustful information about it online.

I was concerned about cost and taste

I just said I’d give it a try. Never picked up anoth cigarette. Almost 3 months now

I tried a variety of brands and methods until I found one I liked.

Was the BEST thing to ever come into my life !!!

I wanted to quit, and was determined to quit. I researched everything I could about it, to be sure I wasn’t jumping from one burning building to another. It was incredible – no desire for cigarettes at all. I knew my life had just changed.

I thought it might help me cut down on cigarettes but it worked so well, I quit.

I tried the cheap clearomizer with a very small battery, and silica wick. Was no problem quitting when I got proper equipment with regulated air intake.

The first e-cig I bought was underpowered and unsatisfying. When I later tried a higher power device with adjustable airflow, then I quit immediately.

It works, but is not effortless. I accidentally cut my smoking down and was ready to move to vaping only then the TPD happened. Knowing that I will probably have no choice but to smoke when the TPD Art 20 becomes law it is easiest for me to still smoke a few cigarettes a day. At 65 and smoking for al my adult life I think that the worst damage smoking caused will never be undone in my lifetime. I do enjoy smoking a few cigarettes. I have not found an eliquid that is so much better that I always prefer vaping to smoking but because I’ve cut smoking down so much I breathe better and feel healthier.

It was kind of a no-brainer. Works like a smoke, feels like a smoke, tastes delicious and didn’t make me feel like crap? Where do I sign up?

I started in 2008 when vaping wasn’t super efficient. In 2012 I got my first electronic mod and stopped smoking immediately afterwards.

tried cig-likes many times did not work no satisfaction, then tried gen 2 ego/ce4 combination and it worked

Not enough information at the time to be sure it was safe and efficient.

I knew from my first puff on an ecig that this was a *wonderful* alternative to cigarettes. It felt “cleaner” (not as harsh on throat and lungs) and I loved the flavor (non-tobacco menthol). And it was every bit as satisfying.

I wanted to understand what I was inhaling so I did research & wrote a paper, Vaping: The Truth, to educate others

I started vaping about 3 years ago, and initially it didn’t work for me. However, that was due to a combination of lack of information, poor hardware availability and selection, poor liquid offerings and low nicotine strength. And I gave up on it for a while, until I did find better hardware, better and stronger nicotine strength liquids, and information. After some trial and error, I was able to quit tobacco with ease.

i’m a gadget geek and that’s why I was so enthralled.

I initially got an e-cig because it was supposed to be cheaper than smoking. It wasn’t until I started using it that I realized that it really could replace smoking all together.

I had to find the right nic level, then it worked like a dream.

I was going to stop but e-cigs made it easier and stopped me putting any weight on

I didn’t expect it to work because I had tried to quit so many times before with different methods.

I didn’t want to quit smoking – just wanted to both vape and smoke, but was taken by surprise – as the smoking tasted terrible on the second day of vaping

My plan was if I could use the e-cig to replace some of my normal cigarettes. It turned out that I did not feel the need for normal cigarettes, when I stated vaping. I got of nthe cigarettes within 2 days.

Although it was a first gen e-cigarette (5 years ago), I immediately noticed that here was something that might work, but I was also a little nervous about it now was more harmful a smoking, so I used months to seek information about it online before I bought my own.

Smoked 22 years, quit easily in 1 day. Been a year and a half now

After SO many failures I wasn’t 100% sure vaping would work. After locating the one vape shop at the time some distance away.. the owner educated me. I purchased a starter kit and e-liquid that appealed to my sense of taste. MUCH better than the taste of burning tobacco leaves!

I knew nothing about e-cigs at the time and was a little leary of using it, but after the 3 day trail I realized very quickly that this could work!

I tried 2 other ecigs and had no luck. Once I found the device that most closely mimiced my smoking style, I was able to throw away my last half pack of smokes!

they saved my life!

Didn’t expect it to work for me being such a heavy committed smoker of traditional cigarettes.

No, I read a lot about it before i bought my starter kit.

I just bought my PV for times when I couldn’t have a cig. After my first use, I never wanted a cig again. At first I used my PV compulsively – them started dropping nicotine levels and after 10 months I am down to “0” and just use it occasionally. It was literally that easy for me, with no expectations to quit at all.

Didn’t think it would work, it didn’t give me the same feeling I had with snus, but it kept the “hunger” down.

first time I read about electronic cigarettes, I had serious doubts about their efficiency to let someone quit smoking, maybe the choice of the name taken by the brand was sounding a little like “prestidigitation” and it had let me skeptical. At this time I wasn’t thinking about quitting yet (that was about 5 years backwards)

First time i tried to vape there was only ciga-likes available.The diden’t deliever enough vape.Later on i bought an Ego-T model and i did it! Wasen’t an easy start for me, but i have been vaping for 2 1/2 year now 🙂

I never thought it would be that easy.

First time I tried it didn’t work at all but for the second time I kept at it and managed to quit smoking.

I tried the cig-a-likes but they never worked and I returned to smoking repeatedly. It was only when I tried an ego that my cravings were satisfied.

I wasn’t looking to quit, just to have something where I could get my nicotine without it causing health issues for my wife. After I started vaping, I just quit smoking without meaning to.

I tried vaping and gave up cigarettes the same day. Now I find that tobacco products stink and so do the people who use them.

I actually only hoped to cut down my cigarette consumption, which worked swimmingly. Within the first week I was down to a couple of cigarettes a day. This was back when the only styles available were cigalikes or pen styles, and it took the introduction of the eGo style for me to become totally smoke free.

I first tried a cartmizer but never worked. With sub ohm vaping it defenitely works.

I’m still concerned about what I may be inhaling! But it’s better than burning tobacco!

Generation 1 cigalikes were too finicky and didn’t satisfy my cravings to smoke, especially while I was around other smokers.

Smoke free since February 2014 thanks to ecigarettes!

I started with a first gen in 2009 – it was horrible and too ‘figity’ for me. I had to constantly mess with it, it tasted awful. It was just horrible. I picked up a much better model in 2014 and its been fantastic! I quit all tobacco use within three days and never looked back!

I wasn’t skeptical because it was guaranteed to be less toxic then what I was already doing. Had to go into hospital for an operation, so figured I’d vape until I was done, and then go back to cigarettes. This never happened cause e-cigarettes worked so well.

First ecig was a cigalike & I didn’t use it for long. Resumed vaping when I bought a 2nd gen device 5 months later

From my research on it I was confident that I was moving in the right direction. My only concern was if it would give me enough nicotine to benefit me. I understood that is was not like cigarettes and how effective they would hit your brain. I realized e cig would be slower so that was my main concern. Until I used e cig I wasn’t sure it would work the same way for my staying in focus and dealing with pain and other issues I have that smoking helped me with.

I knew it had worked for my sister, but not for my daughter.

I planned to use it during office hours, but ended up using it all the time.

Vaping is what worked for me, my main concern was getting the `right` kit to start with, hence research via internet.

Somewhat sceptical but decided they couldn’t possibly be more harmful, media hype had largely by-passed me as no interest at that point.

Searched online and started with a good quality rechargable cigalike which was adequate.Was amazed that transfer to vaping was effortless.

I laughed at the idea the first time. It sounded like a totally unrealistic BS just to get more money aout of people who want to quit. (Boy how wrong I were…)

Having tried a much older device type first I was entirely sceptical as the older device was not sufficient to help.

Tried and stayed with it 100% from the first inhale. December 21st 2014, 14:00.

Absolutly astounded that vaping satified my needs that I got from smoking cigarettes.

At first I looked at vaping as the ideal solution when non smokers were present for a smoke free cigarette I had been longing for instead of the “you must go outside while someone is here” story! That’s no longer a concern while I still remain around regular smokers who haven’t gotten it yet still thinking they have to light them up!

I tried one out of curiousity so had no expectations about quitting (or not).

It was new, had to research learn and try


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Medical Professionals are HERE


What’s it cost to vape?

Great question! What’s your life worth?

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin.

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