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WE, The People

October 1st, Columbus, Ohio Statehouse rally.

Consumers: WE, the people.

That’s YOU.

Over the past few years I’ve seen and heard variations of “we should go to Washington and hold a rally.” Well, dear fellow consumer we, the people, it is beyond time. Suddenly, when President Trump tweeted about vaping, we are IN the national spotlight.

Now is the time for we, the people to come together in one voice – and make our presence known in our nation’s capital. Millions have bravely gone before us, now it is our turn.

“Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness”.

What does that mean to we, the people? As long as you’re of legal age, smoke if you like. Or don’t. To me, it means freedom of choice of a less harmful alternative to smoking.. and that includes flavors.

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Dateline: December 16, 1773, BOSTON.

Boston Tea Party

I’m confident American small business owners and consumers alike are familiar with the history that helped frame the foundation of the United States.

Enraged by control, taxation, tyranny, and demanding freedom – the Sons of Liberty (merchants/small business owners) decided, defiantly, to throw themselves a tea party in the Boston Harbor. They became #louder.

Before this, boycotts and smuggling – black market – tea was prominent.

Now replace the word tea – with cigarettes. Next, replace the words “No taxation without representation” with “lessharmfulproducts“.

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October 1st, concerned citizen from Akron attending the Columbus, Ohio rally.

This is our “Boston Tea Party”.

Despite efforts to circumvent the movement we, the people, vaping products are removing cigarette tax revenue from the government. That’s what small businesses and consumers we, the people, are doing. This is our “Boston Tea Party”.

#WashingtonDC. Harm reduction. We the people. November 9th.



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The United Vapers Alliance (UVA) was formed as a 501(c)(4) organization earlier this year. The sole intent is to educate the public and politicians regarding the benefits of harm reduction via vapor products, and the right to keep flavors on the market as a consumer choice.


Because the government is WRONG. Our messaging needs to be clear, simple, peaceful, and united. Consumers, we the people’s rights are being infringed, restricted, and may possibly be extinguished by government actions and policy all over the nation. The time for silence is over. The time to be heard is NOW.  For too long, we have waited for our politicians to do the right thing.  No more.

“So whether or not we choose to believe the FDA’s stated intent to entertain the re-introduction of flavored vapes at a later date, this is, at least, a de facto permanent prohibition for smaller operators.” Source

THOUSANDS of citizens like Susan Ripley (below), have created small businesses, creating jobs by investing in this life-changing technology. Now they are fighting for their rights – along with ours.

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October 1st, Columbus, Ohio rally.
Photo courtesy Susan Ripley.


United Vapers Alliance will LOUDLY inform Congress and the FDA, that if they do NOTHING, 99% of all vape products will be removed from the market by May, 2020.  United Vapers Alliance will fight for the right to live a less harmful lifestyle and see OUR children grow. 

We are an estimated thirteen+ (13+) million strong, with families and friends who have seen the positive change that vapor products have provided.  If our politicians will not listen to our voices we, the people, then our voices will be heard at the ballot box this 2020 election.

Together, consumers will rally with ONE voice, ONE mission, ONE message, and will shake the very foundations of power in Washington D.C..

When and where


When: November 9, 2019: 12p-4pm
Where: The Ellipse @ 1450 Pennsylvania Ave NW

You can find UVA’s website here: United Vapers Alliance

You can find also find & join UVA’s Facebook page here:

United Vapers Alliance


This Washington, D.C. voyage has the same importance for me personally as my trip to Milwaukee did. This is history in the making. Monumental. I want to stand beside you, the people, with some of the loudest voices representing our country, and to be heard. To change the conversation.

This country was founded on we, the people. Someone was standing up for your rights, the rights of others, and those generations who will follow. This country was founded on #louder voices. This is no different. I consider myself one who speaks for many. I hope to see you there, and don’t be shy. I’ll be the 6′ redhead looking forward to standing beside you and shaking your hand.

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Vaping In The News – September 16th



Vaping Is Not A Crime ~ Sinner, Keep Sinning – We Need The Cash ~ Philip Morris Pledges $1 BILLION ~ Australia ~ Nicotine ~ E-cigarette use and associated changes in population smoking cessation ~ Resolution of recurrent tonsillitis in a non-smoker who became a vaper ~ The Corruption of Public Health ~ FDA Revised Guidance ~ It’s Not About Health ~ Mice ~

Many things to cover. David Goerlitz explores Canada, Sinners equal cash. Philip Morris makes public health experts and tobacco control more nervous. Corruption of public health will be no surprise, “guidance” from the FDA and a few other moments make up this weeks….

Vaping In The News ~ September 10th ~ 16th

Vaping Is Not A Crime

Canada is under extreme opposition. David Goerlitz is scratching punching the surface in this first of a series while visiting Montreal, Quebec.

This is another example of regulate, restrict, tax and ban worldwide. No matter where you are, fight.


Sinner, Keep Sinning

Mr. Puddlecoat probably sprained his fingers typing this one up… Thank you D.P.

Sinner, Keep Sinning – We Need The Cash

Philip Morris Pledges $1 BILLION

I trust tobacco companies more than government or public health. As an example in the UK, THE Fergus Mason’s favorite “authority figure” hag says this in the following article.

“The tobacco industry has a terrible track record of funding research designed to support its efforts to block policies to cut smoking,” Deborah Arnott, chief executive of London-based Action on Smoking and Health, said in a statement. “Tobacco industry claims can never be accepted at face value.”

This. This is fear. Losing power. Loss of control. Out of the loop. “Policies” are in question. The scream test looks nice in print.

I don’t trust public health, with a few exceptions.

I do however, trust Philip Morris (despite self-promotion of their heat not burn, etcetera) and this initiative far more with Yach at the helm.

This is progress, not control.

Philip Morris Pledges $1 Billion to Fight Smoking


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Please keep smoking. That is all.

After all, this: Don’t share this

Leads to this:

Harm caused by e-cigarettes uncertain

A Case for Nicotine Use

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. Nicotine is not addictive.

Because it is such an assertive claim and everything is riding on the myth, (Like Santa, you never want to tell the kids) either few professionals “understand”,  choose to understand or will admit it. They instead, are either incompetent or believe it themselves.

Gorokh has a twist I liked:

“…..drawing conclusions about nicotine from smoking studies is like measuring the effects of lemon juice by administering participants rounds of Long Island iced teas!”

That’s here below.

A Case for Nicotine Use

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E-cigarette use and associated changes in population smoking cessation:

Evidence from US current population surveys.
Seems we’re not anecdotal any longer, we’re population level status now.

E-cigarette use and associated changes in population smoking cessation: Evidence from US current population surveys. 

Resolution of recurrent tonsillitis in a non-smoker who became a vaper.

A case study and new hypothesis.

Resolution of recurrent tonsillitis in a non-smoker who became a vaper.

The Corruption of Public Health

Where do I begin. Is it when the Food and Drug Adminstration formed? When Chapman or Glantz were born? When Frieden took his first baby steps from his sterilized crib? I don’t know. Find out here:

The Corruption of Public Health

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FDA “Revised Guidance” was released.

Ash trays and lighters are not tobacco products, but your list of what is, is here:

FDA issues revised final guidance on tobacco manufacturer registration and product listing

It’s Not About Health

I love this man.

It’s Not About Health: A Potted History


Well, here’s my favorite of the week.

I’ll let you decide if you actually want to read this bullshit, but here are my favorite quotes from the article:

“As always, it is difficult to extrapolate the findings to humans…”

“but the effect on humans still needs to be investigated…”

May I suggest a few humans?

One is an expert at any-hand smoke named Stan “Puff – n – Stuff” Glantz.

Third-hand smoke in furniture and clothes damages mouse organs

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E-Cigarette Regulations And Concerns


The United States has “deeming” regulations waiting to be unleashed to the world.

The “Office On Management & Budget” has it in their hands.

This multifaceted issue has MANY angles and very serious consequence.

Before you go any further – before you read another line go HERE.

Wait, budget? Wait. Not health? Not science? Budget? Huh. What does this office know about health? What does it have to do with budget?

If they are deemed tobacco, they want taxes.

I’ve said “Regulate, Restrict, Tax & Ban“.

It already has happened around the world.

Here & Here.

I’ll shut up and let you talk:

I asked about regulations & concerns on the latest survey.

Are there regulations or other concerns you would like to see addressed with e-cigarettes?


Here’s just the last one hundred ~unedited~ comments from that question:

Difficult one. I do not need to know the ingredients as long they are “save” or maybe whe there are alergies involved. No sales to minors is a hard one too. it should not be harder then buying tobacco, if it would be, they would start smoking. There is alot of false information out there to just keep people on the cigaret, we need to address this. I am pro-everything about vaping, as long it is saver then smoking and makes people switch from smoking to ecigs.
I actually don’t mind if the eqliquid would be temporarily taxed as tobacco because that can compensate the governments for loss of income due to people quitting smoking. But it’s patently stupid that the TPD article 20 implies a tax on atomisers, coils, mouthpieces, etc. While in the same document pipes and pipe paraphinalia are exempt.
Product testing should be mandatory. For the cost spread out over many thousands of orders, the cost per consumer would be very small.
I would definately like to see the manufacture of fake products stopped. Sadly my very first vape pen from a local shop turned out to be a cheap Chinese knock off. Very disappointed as the safety aspect of an electrical device concerned me. Since researching I now know what to look for when buying new products to ensure I only buy genuine products.
From my month in this community, I am so impressed with the majority of juice makers. They are mostly very pro active in being extremely responsible. They label their bottles, watch for certain chemicals that are proven harmful, have childproof containers, and many other responsible behaviors. If I saw an irresponsible vendor, I would not purchase from them and that is the mentality of the majority of the community. We basically self police.
Most notably — More research on the ingredients in flavorings such as diacetyl and the like.
I am fine with some regulations ore rules for juice manufacturers , but not let them regulate this as it was tobacco. They have nothing to do with each other whatsoever
VERY scary how many OH two months vaping – LETS OPEN A VAPE SHOP/Sell ELIQUID ABUNDANT !
I as virtually all vapers agree restrict sale to minors, expecially with nicotine liquids, that ones a no brainer.
The bans and taxes on tobacco and smoking are from the health effects relating to it, vaping has been proven to not have these effects, more so no ‘second hand effects’ so any bans should be considered carefully and taxes should not be at the levels that tobacco is, it should be at levels that standard products are in each country.
There are many people and organisations who benefit from the money spent within tobacco, it’s prevention and health treatments. They have much to lose from e-cigarettes killing off tobacco smoking but this should be treated as it is, money grabbing with no care for human life.It would be great to see the quality and safety of all things in relation to this have some form of regulation, this would make it safer for all users.The amount of mis-information that is constantly sprouted by those who appose e-cigarettes is disgusting, when did it become acceptable that ‘people in powerful positions’ are purposefully lying to suit their own agenda, especially at the expense of peoples lives.
i want e-sig legalized in norway
When I say I have concerns about some of these things, I do not want to give the impression that I agree with all of these statements, in some cases I disagree. For example, putting vapers into the same class as smokers in public is totally wrong and discriminatory for no reason other than ignorance. Other things like safety, yes, definitely.
Ejuice manufacture needs to be regulated, we’ve shown that we are irresponsible, many people adopt a posture of don’t knock it will attract negative attention. The FDA will discover Diacetyl, Acetyl Propionyl and Acetoin in certain ejuices. Either we sort it out or we will be forced to by governments. There needs to be a witch hunt, greedy self seeking manufactures of potentially dangerous ejuices need to be exposed. Everybody deserves the right to know what’s in their product and any associated health risks.
Your body can recover from smoking over many years, once poisoned buy certain ejuices there is no recovery, short of transplant or death.
I’m very concerned with the government getting involved and we’re taxed enough!
I’m intelligent enough to only buy from a reputable dealer concerned with quality control.
Vaping should be allowed in public places but I respectfully ask when it’s indoors. Outdoors is a different story.
The media lies, period.
Taking too much nicotine causes nausea. Anyone (child) who overdoses
by mistake will suffer an unpleasent reaction.
I no longer trust the CDC. I no longer trust the FDA nor any state health dept. nor any health assn. or organization that gets their funding from pharmaceutical companies or from the tobacco MSA funds. I have concluded that keeping their jobs is more important to them than saving lives.
I’m mostly happy with normal consumer regulations –

Most manufaturers of E-Liquid do use childproof caps.

My concern is mainly that some eliquid manufacturers will ruin it for all with using childlike branding (saw on using minions on bottle) and concerned about certain liquid manufacturers using unsafe additives in their liquid (and proclaiming that their liquid was free of these additives) in spite of the issues with said additives being Known *cough*Five pawns*cough*

But you find those types in any area of business unfortunately.

Where i purchase from they are pretty well protected against children in regards to child proof caps. I would like to see less flashy lables. I would also like to note that people are all up in arms saying children would try it. I have three children and three others I am responsible for sometimes. I always reinforce that this is not for them and that I don’t want them to try it. It is the parents responsibility to educate their children on this issue.
I agree with child proof containers and nicotine level labeling. I fear the government will over regulate the industry out of existence or into big tobacco’s control.
The vapor community has done a very good job of self-regulation as far as demanding quality from those that wish to manufacture any component in the industry. This is why vape products are exponentially safer and better made today than they were when they first arrived on the market. We do not need government involvement.

The only taxes that apply should be the common consumer tax we pay on common goods. There should be NO ‘sin tax’ applied.

Government, Public Health & Tobacco Control should be promoting e-cigarettes, The BEST Cure for smoking, and the Health of citizens, rather than being worried about the Health of thier Funding Bank Accounts from the loss of Tobacco Tax & TSA funds. To out-right LIE about e-cigarettes to keep people smoking is nothing short of “Murder for Money”!!
Safety in ALL products and no selling to minors. Taxation is OK in my opinion.

Safety in all products does NOT mean banning drippers or tanks that can leak etc. Safety means quality control, battery safety and proper warnings in batteries and liquids. Tanks and etc are just pieces of metal; why would we need to ban or regulate them?

The state of Arkansas is regulating e-cigarettes and is planning to tax the products they have banned all e-liquid sales from outside of the state stopped and licenses must be obtained to sale e-liquid to stores in the state and can not be sold to individuals. I feel this is a violation of my rights as a vaper and should not be allowed.
With Science & Research is meant to let someone do research on E-Cigarettes who actually know what he/she does.

Irresponsible, false, misinterpreted or one-sided reports should be forbidden and should be done by “experts” that actually know what they are talking about (same as Science & Research)

The vaping community self police themselves! We’ve come this far without any interference from the government, look where we are already!
Unbiased research needs to continue to be done about e-cigs. The propaganda used to scare people away from ecigs based on lies or inaccurately expressed information needs to stop.
Can get our nicotine from eggplants that make it not tobacco right?
Sometimes I don’t know which reports to believe. There are scientists and medical opinions both for and against the use of E-cigs and the media seems to promote the negative side most often.
all vapors agree that childproof bottles and no sales to minors are a must!
Most Regulations have already been self imposed by Electronic Vapour companies. I would like to see the real articles about vaping shown in media.
It’s not tobacco, it should NOT be treated as such. Tobacco companies need to worry about their cigs and step out of the ecig space. Although I do understand…. They are losing money…. Big time!
only the vapes with nicotine content should any of my choices apply to
I do not care for the cartoon character labels or names. I do not like the way some of the vendors are using sex to sell their product. I do not like the way many who are making videos cussing and close to porno.

I do like the variety of flavors available. I use a minimum of 2 tanks at all times to provide a variety for my taste buds. 🙂 There was a question asked in one of the groups I belong to regarding scanning ID and sending it to vendors when ordering/winning contests. I do feel this is going to be necessary to cover everyone’s butts. I know a teen can “borrow” a parent’s ID and credit card but at least the vendor has used caution and tried to prevent underage usage.

I would like to see e-liquid manufacturers disclose all ingredients on their bottles. A lot already do, so I tend to buy from those that do.
Governments lose money when people stop smoking, however they do not see the gain from not having as many sick people. Governments will do anything to get more money out of it’s sheeple – stand up for your right to vape and be healthy.
I don’t think regulations should be too expansive. I would like to see some research done on the inhalation of ingredients in various flavors. I think this would benefit the vape industry, really, to do this on their own a little. The main example is the diacetyl which should probably never be inhaled, but since it is “food grade,” it has been used for this purpose.

I really want a variety of flavors but not at the expens of my lungs collapsing or something.

It should absolutely NOT be taxed like tobacco because it’s nothing like tobacco. It doesn’t look, smell, taste, feel, burn, grow in a field, or resemble tobacco in any way whatsoever.
I would like people to stop calling them cigarettes. There is no tobacco !
I have been going through peer reviewed scientific studies for more than 7 months. You’ve read skewed facts, good science used under unrealistic conditions to get negative data. I am also aware of how the tests have been conducted, where & under who’s funding & direction.
You may choose to believe what you want. The great thing about science though is, it does not require belief or faith or opinion. It is true regardless. If you choose alarmist language & emotional pleas you are choosing to be willfully ignorant. Many do, that’s why Nth America Is falling behind the rest of the world in science & technology.
Consumer safety is important with all products. The use of e cigarettes should be regulated for youth, similar to cigarettes, alcohol and gambling.
Note that I am not concerned in any way with how the e cig market works, and I’m sure there are plenty of safety regulations in place, but the more research and safety the better.
Concerns that the FDA will pull my products off the market while they regulate them, which may force me to go back to cigarettes. This is a huge concern for me because I don’t want to go back to cigarettes and I don’t feel ready to fully quit nicotine yet.
The UK is already very strict with labeling and childproof bottles.
Some comments step by step:
1) No Sales to minors. This is obvious, anyone not allowed to buy tobacco products shouldn’t be allowed to buy vaping equipment and e-liquids. This is a tricky one, however. Whatever way the government chooses to regulate this, it should never be a burden to the seller. Full stop. If it gets in the way of the seller, the industry will die out. This is already happening in Texas, take note. Maybe the best way to handle this issue would be to allow e-liquid purchases only with a centralized, credited service – such as any credit card as a credit card shouldn’t be in the hands of a minor (parents’ responsibility). Or with an identity confirmed account at Paypal.
2) Warnings on bottles. These warnings should include “keep away from children” and “do not drink”. And there should be a booklet on battery safety for rebuildable atomizers and unregulated mods.
3) Quality control on liquid manufacturing. We need third party testing and readouts on the label.
4) Science and Research. This is the single biggest issue we are facing. We need researchers who are educated enough to actually do research on e-cigarettes. You don’t have the dentist operate on your cancer, right? Revenue from e-cigarette taxation could go directly into this research area.
5) Taxation. E-cigarettes are not tobacco and therefore shouldn’t be taxed like it. But we have to ask ourselves, why do we have a special tobacco tax anyway? Because of the damage done to public health. Therefore, e-cigarettes shouldn’t be taxed at all… but this will never happen, so I’d suggest using the standard tax, such as 19% in Germany. Tax revenue should be used for research, liquid controlling and programs to help tobacco users quit or switch to e-cigarettes.
6) Media “experts”. Those are not only a problem with e-cigarettes… People working in the media are responsible for finding the real experts, people who actually know what they’re talking about. Western media have failed to do their job, mostly.
7) Childproof caps. In fact, this is already industry standard. Personally I have never seen a bottle that wasn’t childproof.
8) Motives to restrict and/or ban them. This is a big social issue, so I won’t go into the details here.
9) Battery safety. There are enough resources on the Internet to write a standardized booklet on battery safety to be sold with every battery purchase.
10) Labeling with trademark infringements. There is one problem that people tend to forget – your local B&M might be just as unaware of his source’s selling “clones” (fake products). The management of products with copyright infringement is an old issue in policy making, so there is no real need to discuss this at length here.
11) Ingredients and nicotine strength on the label. In fact, I haven’t seen any e-liquid bottle that failed to meet these requirement, but it should become law.
12) The most important policy issue that needs to get addressed NOW, is that vaping is NOT smoking. This needs to be specified in law. We have to rethink why we prohibit vaping in certain places – I could understand a ban in hospitals, kindergartens and cockpits, but a ban in planes, cars, homes, office buildings, trains and so on does not make any sense at all as no one is at risk or has his/her freedom infringed severely.
I would like to see common sense used and for propoganda against vaping shown for what it really is. I would like to see it set aside from tobacco as it has nothing to do with tobacco because it is NOT tobacco. I would like to see the industry be able to self regulate like any other new industry and I’d like for people to be able to choose what they want instead of being forced by governemt and big tobacco to do what they want us to do. I agree with the need for safety precautions in respect of device handling but that is the same with any battery powered device there needs to be education and caution in handling practises. If there is a need for taxation it needs to be sensible not extortion and I would like to see a stop to the constant shutting of vape shops due to unfair regulation.
If taxing my juice makes it legal. Go nuts. I’d rather pay more for some amazing element juice than be puffing away on a cigalike
We never want these to be vaped by children we all as vapors agree on that. however the way the FDA and state/local governments are handling this is irrisponsable. Starting Jan 1 2016 we will be more regulated then traditional tabacco. you cannot vape in a vape shop after jan 1 yet you can smoke in cigar bars and cigarette stores….THATS INSANE!!!
Vaping is the way out of smoking that medical science and government have been wanting for 50+ years. Their opposition to it is baffling.
as vaping is water vapour it doesnt cause harm to others by passive vaping. indoors i understand as a big cloud can be annoying. i don’t believe vaping in public spaces need to be banned. as an ex smoker most will find the vapers still go outside anyway!
I don’t mind being a part of the long term population-level study that has been going on, but quality control on all manufacturing of everything from liquids to batteries would be good. As nicotine is a real drug it should not be available to under 18s
I find the argument that the flavors and packaging is attracting minors to vape absolutly ridiculous and borderline insulting to adults who vape. if the bottle has child proof caps and if the liquid cannot be sold to people under 18 then it should matter whats on the bottle
I agree that products should be in clearly labelled, child-proof containers and like any other product containing or potentially containing nicotine it should not be sold to minors.
E-cigs and the juices for them are NOT “tobacco” products! Nicotine can be found in other plants that we consume on a regular basis other than tobacco.. The flavors are a HUGE benefit to the success of e-gigs and are NOT marketed to children in ANY way! Adults like stuff that tastes good too! Any reputable company has already put in place their OWN regulations to avoid selling to minors or keeping children safe.. Parents MUST take responsibility and stop blaming everyone else for their mistakes or failures in keeping their children safe! As long as the bottles come with child proof caps, warnings and shrink wrapped bands, once the bottle leaves the facility, it is no longer the responsibility of the manufacturer.. Accidents do happen and we as parents need to prevent them as much as we can..
vaping is the best alternative to smoking and should not be restricted by the government but maybe they could put a small tax on liquids to help the economy
The vaping industry is very good at regulating itself. All the juices I buy from a shop are labelled and have child resistant lids. All vendors I know and have dealt with have a strict “no under 18’s” policy.
Should be controlled to some degree as the liquid nicotine can be an irritant, but it certainly is not tobacco and does not harm others around me.
I believe regulations will strangle innovation and make a lufe saving device unaffortable. I believe that the same regulations other consumer items go through is sufficient.
Health and governmental agencies should ALWAYS AND ONLY provide true accurate information. If research is being done it needs to be conducted as users actually use the product and all information should be provided to include the item being used, how it was used, how it was monitored, outcomes, and conclusions. The false and one sided information is sad and educated users of vaping products know a poorly done study when we see one. We are not idiots, we know what we are doing.
I do not think that liquid or devices should be sold to minors, but I also don’t think that it’s a serious issue. Kids/teens don’t seem to be particularly drawn to vaping anymore than they are to smoking/chewing (less and less, IMO) and the concern about marketing to kids seems like a false one. That is, “think of the children” seems to be an excuse to restrict vaping in order to protect the profits/sales/use of traditional tobacco.
It’s in it’s infancy. I have my guesses about what research will show, but I’m interested to see.
Five the government an inch to regulate and they’ll tame 10 miles in a few years
I believe electronic cigarettes and e-liquid research, quality control, regulation, and taxation should not interfere with the vast number of users who have finally found a way to quit smoking. I believe that this is not an unreasonable expectation.
my biggest issue is misrepresentation by less than ethical companies. false/misleading battery ratings, false chemical analysis of liquids, etc. most vape shops already refuse sale to minors regardless of a lack of laws, and most liquid companies[that i deal with] already package in “childproof” containers
it isnt taxed and we know the govt
and big tobacco are losing millions
from that.
And they don’t like it one bit.
The tobacco industry is a huge player in this and has the financial ability to lobby to make it more difficult for people to quit their products, thus making it more difficult to vape.
Strong quality control is critical to the industry’s long-term viability, as is concrete research supporting what many users (myself included) already expect – that e-cigarettes are an effective smoking cessation tool that while not without risk, are almost certainly less harmful than tobacco
It cannot legally be taxed as a cigarette because it is not a cigarette. It should be taxed as its food grade ingredients. Bbq sauce that has Jack Daniels in it is not taxed as alcohol.
Diacetyl, Acetyl Propionyl and Acetoin should be researched more for prolonged exposure in vaping and labeling required by any ejuice containing them
I think ecigs/vaping do need a little regulation but not as much as they are doing. The industry regulates itself… most reputable companies already applied the use of child proof caps, warnings and ingredients listed and also have restricted sales to minors. I disagree with sales restrictions of non nicotine liquid to minors as it could help prevent them from trying regular cigarettes from the get go and could also help those teens that already smoke quit by switching to non nicotine vaping liquids. I think a parent should be able to talk to their kids doctor and get a note from the doctor OKing a smoking teen to purchase and use an ecig/vaping product to help them quit. I do not agree with the vaping/ecigs ban in public places and them being treated the same as tobacco cigarettes and being legislated as and grouped in with tobacco products since it is not a tobacco product. It is as much a tobacco product as Eggplant and other vegetables are which also contain nicotine naturally. I think the cig-a-likes that are produced by Big Tobacco should be regulated since they are produced by Big Tobacco who have shown that they are deceitful and unscrupulous with their methods and practices. But Mods and Vape Pens and USA made eliquids from reputable suppliers should be left alone with the basic regulations that are for child proof caps, ingredients and warnings on the labels. Liquids from foreign countries should be tested and regulated since other countries may have different standards. My concerns are more about this product being repressed and over regulated to the point that it makes it impossible for the small companies to do business and then making it difficult for people to obtain and use these products.
I only partially agree with ‘taxed like tobacco”; It should be partially taxed as a nicotine product (patches , gums, etc.) not as tobacco product, as long as the e-juice has nicotine. If the juices have 0mg nicotine then they should not receive a penalty tax for such.
We need standards. Not regulations in the strick sense, #deeming is Not what I am talking about.
Yes we need to restrict sales to minors and we Need labels that warn of nicotine and have the ratio and possible allergic reactions to certain flavors….
Standards for the manufacturing of liquid are also needed. Childproof caps sealed delivery are good things.
What is Not Acceptable are outside bans, and anything that discourages people from getting off of tobacco…
I think more education is needed. The general public see a lot of horror/scare stories but need to be better informed about the benefits of vaping.
I do agree no sales to minors, there should be labeling on the bottles of juices. There should be unbiased research, on vaping, on all the juices, have blind, double blind, even triple blind studies on ecigs and what it does. Make the final report public. True, not everyone will give a shit if ecigs are a great way to quit smoking or what is in the juice one is vaping, but there will be enough of us who do give a shit about the outcome of such research. As for taxing ecigs and the vendors to the point of putting them out of business, that needs to stop. True the ecig industry is fighting an uphill battle with big tobacco, and yes the ecig industry is taking a big bite out of big tobacco’s profits. We all need to learn how to get along, greed should not rule the day. Ther should be some type of quality control on the ejuices, doesn’t have to be so severe that one little thing is gonna threaten to put the juice company out of business, but there should be some type of quality checks on juices. Definitely should have child proof caps, don’t want my grandkids getting into my juices and getting sick. I could go on and on, if you want, email me and I will give you an earful on what I think needs to be done within the ecig industry.
Our industry is remarkable self regulating and is doing all these things without big brother telling us to. It definitely should not be taxed like tobacco.
They should be encouraged, sticking vapers out with smokers is not right, they are wanting to get away from that bad smoke, not get back into it.
We need real research to find out, if any, if there are long term health problems associated with vaping.
Children are attracted to anything adults do. I hope parents who vape keep that in mind and that we don’t need the government to babysit our own children for us.
Some companys do have their ingredients on the bottle and if not f your at a shop they will tell you and if that doesnt work all of them have websites with their ingredients name 1 tobacco company that does that
As I view ecigarette as harm reduction I think high taxes would be unfair to the people that are using these products to better them selves. Cost savings are one of the many benifit a of e cigarettes.
Clearer labelling, crackdown on liquids/ingredients from Asia with poor quality control
Vapers should not be treated as smokers. Especially when they designate we use our products in the same area as smokers! The exact smell and harmful stuff we are trying to get away from!
Juice makes should be regulated and have inspections to make sure the cleanliness is there along with ingredient percentage control.
I do not want anything that will give Big Tobacco or Big Pharm an advantage. This is a relatively harmless hobby and it also creates a strong small business eco-system. I support local vape shops (MyVaporStore in Queens and Henley Vaporium in Manhattan) to help small business. I also like the creativity that goes into making these devices and premium e-liquids (and premium e-liquids cost a lot less than my American Spirits Yellows)
The e-liquids must be made with high quality products, in a clean room with testing to make sure it’s the safe.
I am mostly concerned that the government wants to treat e cigs like tobacco, which they are not. I believe the big cigarette companies are jealous of the booming new industry!
I look at this as a tool for quitting cigarettes, therefor I also think that it should hold the same age as for bying cigarettes.
E-Cigarettes and E-Liquids should be regulated as an adult use, at-your-own-risk consumer product. Beside common sense labeling of ingredients and nicotine content for juice/cartridges, and safety regulations on battery parts no further regulation is necessary other than a prohibition of sale to minors.
Bad science being accepted by the media and legislators. Obvious conflicts of interest by legislators and regulatory boards. Lack of strong and widely popularized pro-vaping main-media coverage. Pro-vaping celebrities treat the topic of vaping as though it’s abortion or gun control. They’re hesitant to just stand up and declare themselves vapers and praise the technology as the lifesaver it is.
I’m worried about people over regulating and not letting the industry completely develop based in fear of the unknown. False reports of formaldehyde or anti freeze in e juice doesn’t help. None of those chemicals are in e juice.
True education needs to be in place. IT IS NOT SMOKING and should not be treated as such.
Too much regulation will just allow a few big companies to come in and take over the 4 billion dollar industry and ruin it. There needs to be a middle ground. I have been impressed with the level of self regulation. Testing of Ejuices should be done by manufactures and made available to all. child proof caps and labeling. But that is about it. No huge taxes!!!!!!!!!
I want to continue to vape and I want others to be able to discover vaping in the future, so for these reasons I think we need to be responsible with our marketing, follow “common sense” when it comes to packaging, and make it clear to all that it is not a tobacco product, and so should not be taxed as a tobacco product.
As long as we are responsible with when we use them, public use shouldn’t be an issue, but you’re always going to have the one asshat in the crowd. As far as taxes go, in Idaho the tax is figured by the ounce, so it would be pennies per bottle here.
Kind of point less. Most of these thing are already done. By vapors for vapors. .
I don’t have any concerns, all I know is that vaping got me off cigarettes, I’m delighted with this path that I have chosen.
In order the keep the industry viable, there has to be a consistent high degree of standards in the hardware an e-liquids manufactured and sold.

Every company needs to be committed to excellence.

There has to be continuing on-going effort to educate the public and especially health organizations and government. They seem to make and base decisions on poor science and hearsay.

I think that personal vaporizers (the market should have used this term since its inception)are the most important technological breakthrough for smoking cessation ever created.

Perception is reality and kids using PV’s sets off a negative stigma. Although I do not condone kids using them, I would rather they try PV’s than tobacco (or alcohol or drugs for that matter)

Its not a cigarette, don’t treat it like one.
Some quality assurance is needed beyond the guy behind the counter at the vape shop saying we only buy a certain quality of liquid.
Regulations should be sensible. This is about harm reduction.
I am disgusted that local government/health canada treat e-cigs like cigarettes, yet asthma inhalers and nicorette inhalers use the same ingredients and are fine to use according to them.

*Shannon Farris’s take:

The Life Cycle of a Public Health Revolution

Shannon is @animaginaryecho on twitter.

Michael Siegel’s take:

Democratic Senators Urge OMB to Decimate Electronic Cigarette Industry

Carl Phillips take:

CASAA analysis of what will really happen under ecig deeming


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