Category Archives: FDA

Vaping In The News–May 6th, 2017

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Vaping In The News – April 30th – May 6th, 2017

Coordination with the FDA: Hartland, Wisconsin ~ Please Keep Smoking Award ~ Smoke Some More ~ Views & News On Cole Bishop ~ There’s A List ~ Coverup, Judicial Watch ~ Senator Johnson ~ Truth Initiative ~ Health aspects of e-cigarettes ~ Fergus Mason ~ Nicotine


Hartland, Wisconsin

Imagine for a moment that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has overstepped their authority in “deeming” anything to do with e-cigarettes.

Imagine #EnoughIsEnough:

Coordination with the FDA: Hartland, Wisconsin Holds Public Hearings


Please Keep Smoking Award

State Rep. Mary Jo Daley, (D-PA) is the recipient of this week’s “Please Keep Smoking” award. Seems the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network likes to give out “awards” to keep people smoking.

Here’s her shameless self-promotion piece:

Daley earns ‘Distinguished Advocacy Award’ from American Cancer Society


FDA: Please Keep Smoking More

The FDA likes smoking so much, they have an initiative to figure out how to keep people smoking under an “initiative” to pretend to get them to smoke “less”.

I thought the FDA’s purpose was to regulate, not initiate.

I covered “lower nicotine” and 22nd Century here in March of last year…

“The company’s cigarettes are part of an estimated $20 million FDA initiative to determine “the best method to quit smoking

there’s more, as I predicted.

22nd Century gets FDA authorization for low tar-to-nicotine cigarette clinical trial


Views & News On Cole Bishop

Oliver Kershaw

Cole Bishop just failed. What now?

Jim McDonald

Cole-Bishop budget rider fails. Here’s what we need to do!

Tony Ottomanelli II

Cole-Bishop HR 1136 Update: Must-Know Need to Know Info


There’s a list:

Open Secrets has this article highlighting the “Top recipients of contributions from the tobacco industry, 2016 cycle”

Big tobacco in 2017: Full steam ahead

My pal DrMA asked them this question:


Covering up the obvious isn’t enough.

The FDA is batting 1,000 with non-answers – as if they were above the law.

With Former FDA Commissioner Margaret Hamburg under R.I.C.O. charges, Senator Ron Johnson being ignored last year asking the FDA repeatedly to produce documentation, and Hartland asking questions above, Judicial Watch has asked, through the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) for – well – information.

I’ll wait.

Judicial Watch Sues over Records on Obama E-Cig Regs

Here’s their video on the matter.



Senator Ron Johnson

Johnson Applauds Trump Administration for Delaying Harmful E-Cigarette Rule


Truth Initiative Whines & Brags

Skip is certain.

Here’s the whining & bragging:

What 2017’s first Congressional appropriations deal means for tobacco control


WorldWide Survey

This SURVEY is still going:

The Tobacco Harm Reduction Association of Canada (THRA) is conducting this survey for anyone – ANYONE to take. Smokers, non-smokers, vapers.

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The importance of your voice is NEEDED.

Please take the survey HERE.


Health aspects of e-cigarettes

Need a document for your physician?

Well…

Here is that link:

Health aspects of e-cigarettes – Short information for Physicians


The Fergus Mason:

FDA e-cig ban under fire from all sides as safety evidence mounts


Nicotine

Via Jim McDonald

Remember, folks, “nicotine” is now tobacco.

People are usually interested in how long nicotine remains in the system because their employer wants to test for nicotine, either as a condition of employment, or more commonly to determine the cost of health insurance.

How long does nicotine stay in your system?

 



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Coordination with the FDA: Hartland, Wisconsin Holds Public Hearings

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Imagine

Imagine for a moment that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has overstepped their authority in “deeming” anything to do with e-cigarettes.

Imagine there’s a little-known process used to challenge regulations imposed when the federal authority, by law, did not coordinate with state and local municipalities.

Now, imagine there’s a small town in the United States willing to take it upon themselves to challenge the authority having jurisdiction over these regulations.

Imagine.


The Village of Hartland, Wisconsin has done just that. They have hosted three days of public hearings and testimony of what is called “coordination” with Hearing Officer Fred Kelly Grant, Esq. at the helm.

The Electronic Vaping Coalition of America (EVCA) has explained what “coordination” is here.

WHAT IS “COORDINATION” IN FEDERAL LAW?


Three days of testimony

Testimony in Hartland was presented by Cory Winston, Azim Chowdhury, Shaun Casey, Antonio Lauria, Lou Ritter, Jeff Stier, Aaron Biebert, Johnson Creek Vapor Company, Bill Godshall and more.


Thursday, April 27th, 2017


Friday, April 28th, 2017


Saturday, April 29th, 2017



MONDAY, May 1st, 2017:

The decision is in:




THIS is how you can fight.

Via EVCA, the funding to FIGHT the FDA with this board if it goes to court:

Next Steps After FDA Coordination Hearing

Added 5/13/17

 



Imagine

Imagine the businesses who are going out of business.

Imagine the health implications of the imposed regulations by the FDA and the organizations who have supported them.

Imagine the person who walks into a vape shop and can’t be helped properly, if the vape shop will even exist within the next year.

Now imagine taking the time to listen, to ask questions, stand UP, question the lack of integrity and frankly, DO something.

Imagine saying enough is enough.


If the videos below do not play, you can access them here:


Related:

This article from Kathy Hoekstra:

Small-town America takes on FDA over e-cigarette regulations


WHILE this challenge is ongoing, it is imperative in the United States to visit CASAA:

First, the Cole-Bishop bill, (H.R. 1136) via CASAA

Out of the budget but, still in the fight!


Meanwhile

Duncan Hunter (R,CA)  has introduced one of his own, taking tobacco OUT of the description completely.
From my friend, Daniel Hall of Guide To Vaping:
Also From Mr. Hall: (added 5/2/17)


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Ecigs: Paradigm shift or Pavlov’s dog?

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Have you noticed a shift in in reporting in the United States about e-cigs? Have they completely lost their minds? No… If you start to notice it, there’s a reason. On August 8th, 2016, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) deemed nicotine as tobacco –  and took the reign over ecigs.

It’s mind-boggling how nicotine and such things as batteries being defined as tobacco products can make an expert think.



The public has suffered an onslaught of headlines, #fakenews and click-bait touting “A million more times harmful” and “formaldehyde”. A chorus of experts have sung everyone’s classic “Think Of The Children™ in tune to garner support.

Americans have been settling for less.

This change in the weather has taken a LOT of work. Health groups have been working in tandem to demonize e-cigs without fail to create the controversy, to control public opinion, to keep resistance to a bare minimum. Now it’s suppertime.

Not so long ago, e-cigs were bad. There are astounding examples and a great blog by Robert Innes about that here:

But I Am Hardly an Expert…





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Now, since the FDA has defined nicotine as a “tobacco product”, a paradigm shift has occurred. There must be one big-ass mass email of “ok folks, let’s roll the other way now” put out by tobacco control.

Not all, but some organizations are posting “less hateful” news. I predict more.


The government is serving pie.

 



*DING

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The bell has rung. They don’t care about safety, children, chemicals or your “journey” to stop smoking. Now they’re motivated. There is official drooling and control.

Please, smoke ’em if you got ’em- and now taxes of your vaping products will be sufficient.

The association with “safer” in the health world is the addiction trigger to all who, directly or indirectly operate with or, are funded by, tobacco tax –  as e-cigs become surprisingly more acceptable.

“When it’s over I predict that each camp will claim plausible deniability to the fact that it takes someone from smoking, keeps them from smoking, and keeps all involved from revenue unless it is deemed & taxed like a tobacco product.”

(Please, KEEP SMOKING! Plausible Deniability, an Incestuous Relationship.)

Get your napkins. The”taxing of nicotine” bell has rung.

You can almost hear the good intentions coming down tobacco roads.

You can almost smell fresh pie cooking. (Thanks FIG!)

UCSF Awarded $20M Federal Grant on Tobacco Regulatory Sciences

 


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Top Ten reasons you shouldn’t try an e-cigarette

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Please remain seated.

E-cigarettes are dangerous. More research is needed.  They are not regulated. They’ve got flavors. They are enticing children to smoke. They’ve got chemicals. There are even scary words like formaldehyde.

You may even decide you’ll smoke and vape (and there’s no sense in that).

Smokers, keep those ashtrays front and center. Don’t toss your lighters out. Don’t talk to vapers. Do not, under any circumstances try any vaping products.

They’re just like cigarettes. We need more time.

In the interim, please continue smoking.


Agencies –  government, private sector, non and not for profit, healthcare and public health officials (especially) just aren’t doing enough to keep you informed. I’m here to inspire them to try harder.

I’ll admit I can’t bear to see them struggle any longer, I certainly don’t want anyone feeling left out of the loop. I felt it was high time to help ’em out, ’cause I’m a nice guy.

As a public service announcement, I wanted to make sure you’ve been thoroughly convinced not to try an e-cigarette.


Redundant Reiteration

They’ve lost some of their oomph (the first time I’ve proudly blogged the word oomph!). Their tactics are unbecoming professionals, and the same tiring stories are on auto-pilot. In the spirit of hearing themselves repeat different versions of the same thing, so am I.

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I’ve decided to to rehash some of their stupidity in the risk of being repetitive, repetitious or repeating my own damn self in this handy-dandy reference guide below.


#10. You’re a struggler.

“They” claim there are plenty of government approved methods, but you need a plan. An app. Take a walk. Stop enjoying yourself. Slip, trip and fall fail. It’s expected. You’re going to keep trying to quit their way.

They appreciate the fact that your first attempt will be JUST as frustrating just as your 20th try –  don’t disappoint them. Use every method.


Wait a minute,  what about the success rates for these approved methods? It’s probably just as well if you hold your questions until the end of the list, and keep in mind, don’t ask question authority (covered in #8).

It’s called tobacco control for a reason. Spend more time listening to them.

The Real Story Behind the Nicotine Patch and Smoking Cessation

A quick reference between FDA Smoking cessation drugs and their side effects.


#9. You are a patriot

Don’t you love your country?

On July 1, 1862, the United States Congress passed excise taxes on many items including tobacco. This occurred as a result of the Union’s increasing debt during the American Civil War and the Federal government’s need for additional revenue.

Cigarette taxes in the United States


#8. You don’t respect authority

I don’t understand the troubles with listening to the same thing over and over and over. Don’t question authority. Do as you’re told.

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THEY aren’t telling you anything you haven’t heard, or should.

Withholding differential risk information on legal consumer nicotine/tobacco products: The public health ethics of health information quarantines

Government strategies threaten smokers and public health


#7. GUILT, the gift that keeps on giving

Guilt is self explanatory, but if you need some – I’ve got it.

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They’ve been focusing on children so much I don’t believe you haven’t had your daily dose of guilt. You can listen to them scream at you here, here, here and if you haven’t had enough, go here  as well.


#6. Formaldehyde.

Cough, ehem. It’s in your breath. Its in the air. It’s everywhere.

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Again…

The deception of measuring formaldehyde in e-cigarette aerosol: the difference between laboratory measurements and true exposure

Lung function and respiratory symptoms in a randomized smoking cessation trial of electronic cigarettes.

#6A. Bonus Popcorn lung!

A Bucket Full of Popcorn


#5. Dangers!

From your lungs to – well – your lungs – there are dangers. You’re already smoking. Esteemed experts seem to possibly agree that there may – might – could – be dangers in e-cigarettes worse than combustible tobacco. Try to hold your *gasp* in!

Let me repeat that… wait – I know why they’re slacking off on the weekends, this is difficult to do!

I want to make sure you’re really scared so I added this scary sign. Hope it helps.

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Here’s a list you don’t know about

Smokers Who Switch to E-Cigarettes Exposed to Same Levels of Nicotine, Lower Carcinogen Levels

Evidence for harm reduction in COPD smokers who switch to electronic cigarettes.

Application of dosimetry tools for the assessment of e-cigarette aerosol and cigarette smoke generated on two different in vitro exposure systems

#5A. Bonus about batteries!

Don’t want you to hurt yourself:

Battery Safety – Making Peace With Power (CASAA)

Battery Safety!!!

“E-cigarettes” don’t explode. Batteries do. There’s a big difference.

Electronic nicotine delivery systems: overheating, fires and explosions


#4. Long term studies are needed

The longer you wait, the more you may smoke. I hope this makes sense. They are depending on you.

Wait until you’ve exhausted all efforts to try e-cigarettes. Let someone else be the lab rat. Cigarettes are familiar and comforting to you (see #10; You’re a struggler).

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“Can’t find it” eh?

Long Term Health Effects

What is your definition of a long-term study?


#3. Think of the children™

This one’s self explanatory. You SHOULD think of the children. You are less than exemplary if you don’t. If e-cigarettes are luring children to smoke, why not just restrict them and keep cigarettes available.

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If you’re still smoking, keep them where your kids (or anyone’s kids) can swipe your cigarettes, keeping the tradition of smoking alive.

(You “control” folks need to harp on this more to keep your funding alive.)

Complicated Models Can’t Alter the Data: Smoking Among Youth and Young Adults Is Way Down

New Study Concludes that Vaping is a One-Way Bridge to Cigarette Smoking among Youth

Electronic Cigarette Age Restrictions May Drive Teens to Traditional Cigarettes

There are runner-ups, but NOBODY thinks more about the children than the well oiled organization , Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids.

Tobacco Free Kids and Philip Morris: A Special Relationship?

Dear Matt Myers


#2. NICOTINE

Almost to the point of toxicity, this needs to keep being said. Addiction! Addiction! Addiction!!!  It can’t be any of the other thousands of chemicals in your manufactured tobacco, so rest assured, e-cigarettes have some crazy foreign nicotine. You should only use approved nicotine methods (See #10, struggler).

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NICOTINE,without MAOI’s and tobacco, is NOT addictive. Period.

If the data contradict the theory, throw out the data

Big Drugs Nicotine War

From the Royal College of Physicians: (PDF Dropbox)

#1. They like your money more than you do

Nicotine is tobacco. (See #2) That’s what the U.S. Government has deemed.

There’s no reason for you to switch at this point. Resistance is futile.

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Save your breath. Keep smoking, they need the money.

How Wall Street Tobacco Deals Left States With Billions in Toxic Debt

Tobacco Taxation and Unintended Consequences: U.S. Senate Hearing on Tobacco Taxes Owed, Avoided, and Evaded

The Master Settlement Agreement & Its Impact on Tobacco Use 10 Years Later

Another great read:

Puff, The Magic Settlement



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Take this assessment.

Are you using a Strategy or Tragedy?

I’m here to help with these challenges of getting the word out.

After all, Controlling tobacco roads – paved with g̶o̶o̶d̶ intentions



Smokers, it’s your choice.

This blog, and many others are available to answer your questions.

Knowledge is power.



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Controlling tobacco roads – paved with g̶o̶o̶d̶ intentions

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Health officials, politicians and distinguished “experts” have, with all intents and purposes, descended into subliminal tobacco promotion – pro bono. Nice work! Despite fictitious and contrived positions against tobacco, they have consumed themselves by demonizing e-cigarettes.

The tobacco companies didn’t have to ask. The pharmaceutical companies sit quietly on standby. Healthcare organizations are dancing in the streets – still bleeding from loss of revenue. Government officials can barely contain themselves.

By design, tobacco control and anti-tobacco are promoting the consumption and continued use of cigarettes by both not saying a word and perpetuating fake news.

They’ve become the largest single advertiser – denying, downplaying, discouraging and ignoring facts to consumers about vaping products.

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If less tobacco use is the collective goal, they would have intervened and promoted the 79% success rate of e-cigarettes LONG ago. Instead, they violate the blind trust of the public by manipulation of facts with their opinions. They want revenue.

Nothing says “please keep smoking” like leading consumers to believe high profile doctors like Dr. Oz with his latest, or Dr. Margaret Quomo’s claim that “e-cigarettes will raise your risk for lung cancer but also other cancers, like liver cancer”.

Other delusions of grandeur like “nicotine is highly addictive”, “oral health“, formaldehyde-gate, Popcorn-lung-gate, particulate matters and the ever popular gateway-gate are still standard operating procedure to keep doubt and control of the intent of public perception.

These are professionals with standards?

Added 4/23/17

Against All Odds, the U.S. Tobacco Industry Is Rolling in Money


Deny, Deny, Deny

This please keep smoking advertisement comes from Senator Markey saying the “e-cig industry should be put out of business“.

Please, think of the children.

Scare the public with your faux authority, Ed. That leaves the choice obvious for consumers, Ed. Ban the safer alternative, keep smoking as the intent – you can see how Massachusetts needs smokers for the money.


Who’s left behind?

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See the smokers looking to switch in the rear view mirror?

To deviate from facts readily available to support a safer alternative to smoking is to act, with malice in promoting smoking and cigarette sales. Period.

Withholding differential risk information on legal consumer nicotine/tobacco products: The public health ethics of health information quarantines


Two recent examples of less harm:

New study comes the closest yet to proving that e-cigarettes aren’t as dangerous as smoking

Nicotine, Carcinogen, and Toxin Exposure in Long-Term E-Cigarette and Nicotine Replacement Therapy Users: A Cross-sectional Study


The tragedy – since National Tobacco Day, nicotine is now “tobacco”, is that the public has to ACCEPT their definition of nicotine as tobacco, and in doing so, taxes will be, and already are, the norm. That is their intention.

In that, they get what they want either way, and the cost will be in line with – or higher than cigarettes. Think five years down the road. Legislators asking for the farm by passing insane tax measures – like in Pennsylvania.


They’ve done this before.

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This is not their first rodeo.

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We are obviously getting louder and harder to avoid.

The “Senate Co-Sponsorship Memoranda” introduced by Senator Camera Bartolotta does mention Public Health England and Royal College of Physicians.

Then – the guilty as charged get what they want (funding, balanced budgets) by appeasing – and “lowering the bar” while their intention is manipulating us into believing or having to accept the fact that consumers, smokers who may want to switch, are getting a “good deal”.

They’re not doing a very good job of trying to fight us.

 

 




Added 02/10/17:

Here’s bias in print:

Research Collaboration Uncovers Biases in UK/US Physician Discussions on E-Cigarettes

Added 02/10/17:

Please, keep smoking.

The FDA’s multi-million dollar campaign attacking smokeless tobacco is almost certainly leading to higher levels of disease by causing Americans to use far-more-hazardous cigarettes,” adds Sweanor.

That’s here:

Smokeless Doesn’t Mean Harmless’ campaign may be doing more harm, researchers argue




I question their integrity, I question their intent.

They are, after all, in the control business.

They want their piece of the pie.




I’ve written President Trump:

Dear President Trump: Stop the F.D.A.




Cole-Bishop Amendment




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Ecigs. Clarify this.

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Are you confused about regulations and e-cigarettes? Are they good? Are they bad? Do you happen to be a smoker who doesn’t want to switch or hasn’t because of the confusion surrounding e-cigarettes?

Is it because you’re waiting on experts and government to clarify their position and taking 10 plus years to do it before you try one? Still In the dark?  Still confused? That’s right where they want you.

Let me run down the past few years in six short sentences.

They’re dangerous. We don’t know enough. They’re attracting children. There are chemicals. Oh, there’s nicotine-they’re tobacco. We need more research.

No, no, they’re a medical device. The government moron meter has now been pegged.

They’re looking for their piece of the pie.




Fill your tank, grab your favorite beverage. Double indemnity if you’re up for it.


Moving on.

The Food and Drug Administration have released their latest statement swirling the confusion for the public and small businesses STRUGGLING to comply with these idiotic regulations.

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Sorry – that’s one of the “experts” in tobacco control.



 

Here it is – from “The National Law Review”

FDA Finalizes New Rule “Clarifying” When a Tobacco Product is Actually a Medical Product 


Determining a product’s  intended use is critical to establishing whether a product made or derived from tobacco will be regulated as a medical product .  A drug is defined in Section 321(g) of the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act (FDCA), in pertinent part, as “articles intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease in man or other animals”

I’m no attorney, but e-cigarettes do not diagnose, cure, mitigate, treat or prevent disease. Conjecture, dear reader.

(I also haven’t seen any animals smoking lately. Yes I’ve seen the smoking monkey – or ape – you don’t need to clarify that!

“FDA further emphasized that manufacturer claims related to “smoking cessation in the context of curing or treating nicotine addiction and its symptoms” would bring a product within the disease prong of the drug or device definition.”

I’m no attorney, but I suggest the FDA CLEARLY show nicotine in the context of causing HARM or ADDICTION in humans without tobacco or MAOI’s

– then we can agree that nicotine is a “drug or device”.


I’m no attorney, but milk isn’t beef, syrup is not wood, and nicotine is not tobacco.


Again, conjecture and nicotine is NOT addictive, but saying it is, IS.

Proof by assertion, sometimes informally referred to as proof by repeated assertion, is an informal fallacy in which a proposition is repeatedly restated regardless of contradiction.] Sometimes, this may be repeated until challenges dry up, at which point it is asserted as fact due to its not being contradicted (argumentum ad nauseam). In other cases, its repetition may be cited as evidence of its truth, in a variant of the appeal to authority or appeal to belief fallacies.


From Chris Price:

Why isn’t nicotine a Schedule 1 drug?


“They” have fabricated information for ten years – so they can justify their goal to regulate, restrict, tax and ban e-cigarettes as tobacco  – or a medical device – or use them as stump to shout from until they can formulate and succeed in their new found love, a sugar tax.

While they take their time flip-flopping – the folks who WANT to switch and walk into a vape shop are afraid and confused, & small businesses may not be there for them when they do.



Still snickering about the monkey? Good.



In other observations to be confused about, I’ve noticed a – change, shall I say, with Michael Eriksen (Former DirectorCDC’s Office on Smoking and Health) and his demeanor on e-cigarettes while following him on Twitter recently, here’s what I mean.

Truth Initiative tweeted, and Eriksen obliged them;

and then, the next day he tweeted this:

and this….. on Christmas Eve:



That got my curiosity up a bit… I myself had engaged him QUITE a few times to clarify, but he didn’t have time for my question – among other snarky questions over time, here in June 2016.



With that and my child-like curiosity, I wonder about the change of heart. Did he simply change his mind like Jim McManus? Not impossible. Still – I wonder about the change in his demeanor. I noticed the whole bio on his twitter account:

Dean and Regents’ Professor, Georgia State School of Public Health. Former Director – CDC’s Office on Smoking and Health. Tobacco Atlas.

Now that caught my eye. Never noticed it before. What IS that? Not that I’d ever question authority or integrity… Oh, an org…

You may not be back.

Main site: Tobacco Atlas

Some “usual suspects”:

Thanks and acknowledgements



The Tobacco Atlas – at the bottom, is sponsored by – drum roll please – the World Lung Foundation and the American Cancer Society.

See for yourself what the American Cancer Society (almost to the end) says about e-cigarettes.

I couldn’t find anything on the World Lung Foundation – their site was down at the time of this blog, but On Wikipedia:

The World Lung Foundation applauded the 2014 WHO report’s recommendation for tighter regulation of e-cigarettes due to concerns about the safety of e-cigarettes and the possible increased nicotine or tobacco addiction among youth.

But did remember and find this from Guy Bentley & the Daily Caller.

Exposed: World Lung Foundation’s Bogus Claim E-Cigarettes Are Gateway To Tobacco

Where are the “powers that be” going with e-cigarettes in the United States?


 

Updated 1/28/17

This was was covered here by Robert Morgen:

Former Director At CDC Commends E-Cigs For Smoking Cessation

 

 



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E-cigarettes: Organized crime is exploding.

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As national crime syndicates go, the FDA is one of the largest legal organized crime rings in the world. E-cigarettes and nicotine were deemed a “tobacco product” on August 8th, 2016 by the United States Food & Drug Administration (FDA).

I don’t have an answer as to how their decision reduces smoking. Not a clue as to how it involves tobacco harm reduction – which is their alleged intent.

I have an answer as to how it will increase smoking, funding for “tobacco” and continue a now criminally perpetual lie about nicotine.

I call that decision “National Tobacco Day“.


Criminal intent or public health

The FDA, while claiming to be the keeper of public health and all the good it does, goes deep within the realm of criminal intent, corruption and poor judgement, and has been on the side of drug companies for years.

Once Margaret Hamburg quit resigned retired left the FDA and was charged with RICO status, the nomination and confirmation of Robert Califf – having extremely lucrative financial ties to pharmaceuticals AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson, GlaxoSmithKline and more, has furthered the criminal activity…hiding in plain sight.

The FDA won’t admit to answering to the pharmaceutical companies who make profits with nicotine reduction “therapy” products like the patch and gum. Those entities are in direct competition with e-cigarettes.


Corruption

Certainly the FDA will never admit to corruption leading up to and including the “regulations” as David Goerlitz, the Former Winston Man had predicted two years before it happened below.

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Organized Crime

Medical associations like the Heart, Lung & Cancer Associations of America along with the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids, all supported heavily by the Robert Woods Johnson Foundation, (Johnson & Johnson) along with the American Medical Association, and MANY other organizations and their “subsidiaries” – claim to want to “reduce smoking”.

Despite science, not ONE has supported e-cigarettes as a harm reduction tool. They simply cannot afford to support something that will take their revenue away.

Certainly, the FDA won’t admit to bending to pressure from “public health” and tobacco control, anti-smoking and anti-tobacco groups.

The tobacco companies AND those organizations above are going to will profit from revenue with this decision.

Those entities are funded directly and indirectly with tobacco sales, taxes and the Master Settlement Agreement.

“The people who are in the anti-smoking or anti-tobacco movement are so vindictive and hateful… they’ve made tobacco users feel like lepers, and that’s not the answer to the problem.”                                                                                                ~David Goerlitz


1.8%

From the Master Settlement Agreement and state tobacco taxes, this report shows the money spent from the fiscal year of 2016, “despite combined revenue of $25.8 billion from settlement payments and tobacco taxes for all states, states will spend only $468 million (1.8%) on comprehensive tobacco control programs.


 “They said….’This is no longer going to be about health, this is going to be about money.’

That’s what I saw. That’s the corruption”                                          ~David Goerlitz


The Master Settlement Agreement

According to this report

“It is clear that the MSA has not resulted in a clear and straightforward intensification of state tobacco control efforts, because of the impact of interest group activity and changing economic situations at the state level. MSA resources have been significantly diverted from tobacco control and treatment into other state policy activities”.

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Diverted. Unconstitutional. Misused. Stolen.


Regulation and taxation

of e-cigarettes are for CONTROL. For tax purposes, not public health. They claim it is about children and nicotine to continue their ponzi scheme.

They don’t want you to succeed by stopping your tobacco use.

They say vaping products are dangerous. There are no long term studies.

They don’t “know enough“.


They want you

to fail, and continue to fail their way…or tax you for succeeding your way.


Added 10/7/16:

Speaking of CRIMES:

Vaping bill sponsor admits ‘it did’ put people out of business


I’m doing everything I can in my power to stop them from doing so.

“The largest threat to is an informed consumer.”


E-cigarette Research is HERE.

MORE e-cigarette research is also HERE.

If you are a Professional  go HERE.


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The Gloves Are Off.

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Reducing smoking, a challenging campaign for Tobacco Free Kids

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The Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids (CFTK) has shown a rare glimpse into the desperate reach it wants to have with one of the finest examples of illiteracy in tobacco harm reduction. 

CTFK and the European Network for Smoking and Tobacco Prevention (ENSP) have joined together asserting themselves with this letter to Dr Christopher Russell presumably not meant for public consumption.

There was no concern for harm reduction in any form in the letter and was not an attainable goal or option. No mention of “how do we come and learn as well” or “sounds like there may be some valuable information extracted from this conference.” With typical Matt Myers “tobacco control” style, only intimidation, control, and manipulation were a concern.

Disapproval is of the highest order from these organizations to Dr. Russell for planning to attend the Global Tobacco & Nicotine Forum (GTNF).


 

Concern for Dr. Russell and his impeccable professional credibility seemed to be the focus in their letter. In my mind, they’ve been the recipient of this paragraph at some point.

It needs to be read back to THEM in court:

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I didn’t know who “ENSP” even was until a day or so ago. I do, however, know who the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids “is”.

 

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I won’t bore you with all the details of my “meta-analysis” of this corrupt and unacceptable letter, I’ll leave that to these four five six & seven:

 


 

Clive Bates

To listen to someone, you don’t need to uncritically accept everything they say, but I have definitely gained insight from listening to them. I am also open to and welcome challenge and I’m prepared to have my owned received wisdom shaken up. I will accept good arguments if I hear them, whoever makes them.

The wilful ignorance of tobacco control McCarthyites

 


 

Vaping 360; Jim McDonald:

Of course, it’s okay for CTFK’s Matt Myers to talk with Big Tobacco companies. He secretly negotiated the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act with attorneys from Philip Morris (now Altria). For all his tobacco-free huffing and puffing, Myers’ backroom negotiations managed to result in a law that guaranteed the tobacco industry’s long-term health and profitability. One senator called Matt Myers’ handiwork the “Marlboro Protection Act.”

Scientist’s career threatened by anti-tobacco organization


 

Carl V. Phillips

If you want to get mad about something, definitely do so. But make sure it is the right thing: the 99% of available research funds that have a political litmus test attached; the use of those and other funds to blackmail institutions into censoring other researchers

CTFK threatens researchers but who cares


 

Dr. Sally Satel:

Shameless Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids Tries to Censor Researchers

 


 

By Dr Farsalinos:

Public health has been divided into two opposing groups (pro and against harm reduction) which never meet or participate in the same conference to exchange ideas and present their arguments collectively in an honest, open and public debate. Is this what public health and smokers deserve? Is this going to solve the problem of smoking? Is this scientific progress?

Public health urgently needs a “new deal”


Added 9/27/16

AND now from Neil McKeganey Ph.D. Christopher Russell Ph.D. themselves:

Why Academics Should Resist Pressure to Disengage with the Tobacco Industry


Thank you to Dr. Christopher Russell for the work you DO, and for allowing the world to see ineptitude from what is supposed to be authority by both ENSP and CTFK.

Here are results of just one of Dr. Russell’s surveys. NOTE it says Tobacco Harm Reduction.

Tobacco Harm Reduction, Vaping & E-Cigarettes


“In other news”

I wrote a letter to the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids.

Someone had to, I chose me.

For immediate release: Dear Matt Myers, President of Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids

 


 

Because this was directly a tobacco industry study, we shall wait for the “experts” to stake their claim:

BAT claims Ecig emissions 92-99% safer than cigarettes

 


Speaking of manipulation:

How the FDA Manipulates the Media

AND

A top journalist is suing the FDA over its alleged use of a banned and secretive practice to manipulate the news


 

E-cigarette Research is HERE.

MORE e-cigarette research is also HERE.

If you are a Professional  go HERE.

 


 

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Organizations & Politicians LIE about E-cigs. It’s a business decision.

 

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In the never-ending onslaught of misleadings articles about vaping, this one,  by Maggie Fox  (Senior health writer @NBCNewshealth Science/Health/Tech)  was titled: “E-Cigarettes should be a last resort, heart doctors say“. There is clearly a discrepancy or three in this one. There are no mentions of any heart doctors in the article , instead the title guides the reader straight into the American Heart Association.  It is possible to assume crack staff  writer Maggie may not know the difference between heart doctors and the the AHA? A quick search doesn’t show Nancy Brown is a heart doctor. I could be wrong.


Please continue smoking:

According to the article, the  AHA, evidently, would prefer smokers to keep smoking  – and if you must, only try e-cigarettes as a last resort. CEO at the AHA, Nancy Brown states “the FDA should HURRY UP and regulate them”. We don’t want to dilly-dally  with regulations, do we?  Evidently the Heart Association’s intriguing “last resort” thing is a new POLICY. Those funds won’t just appear in the bank on their own, FDA. Hurry up. Toot-suite. Quick, like a bunny – before the public finds out what organizations and politicians are UP TO.

The comfort level must be almost unbearable with the film A Billion Lives due to be released shortly. Once it’s out, the lies will be exposed, and the public scrutiny of regulations will begin. Chop-chop, FDA. They can’t hold their lying breath forever!

 

Fox takes innuendo to the standard level, eluding to the usual wrong “children” stats (discrepancies are here & here ) while misinforming her readers. There’s the obligatory lie statement from Nancy Brown : “We are fiercely committed to preventing the tobacco industry from addicting another generation of smokers”.  Of course there’s the obligatory lie statement of vaping being a gateway, and nicotine being the root of all evil.

The link in the article – to the lies statement from the American Heart Association – is “not released” and unavailable. So, who are the doctors saying last resort? Brown was quoted in the article, stating “We fear that any additional delay of these new regulations will have real, continuing public health consequences”.

Yes, Nancy Brown, the business decisions you make health consequences are that the public will believe your lies and continue to smoke – since e-cigarettes will be treated the same in your world. Regulation in the form of taxes, is the goal. Remember when LESS smoking was the goal? Milk is not beef, syrup is not wood and nicotine is not tobacco. Deny it all you like, Research does exist, Nancy.


 

The Lung Association.

The Lung Association, headed by National President & CEO Harold Wimmer, has a business decision stance as well.  Out in California, my pal, Senator Mark Leno – after being defeated with SB140 last year, has revamped his effort to have e-cigarettes “accurately defined as tobacco products”. Olivia Gertz – the CEO of California’s chapter of the Lung Association is found here gloating stating she’s “proud to co-sponsor” legislative efforts with her business decision “to increase the state’s dismal national ranking in tobacco taxes“,  where they also mentioned the obligatory youth and health lie statements like above, yet taxes are the goal….

Bear with me as I’ll babble incessantly for your amusement:

Dismal ranking, Olivia? Embarrassed much? You’re worried about appearances? Is this a mirror check? LESS tobacco tax revenue = LESS smoking. That’s from all those vapers NOT smoking. Um, You’re WELCOME? Remember when organizations wanted us to NOT smoke?  Didn’t anyone plan properly for a drop in revenue from the “tobacco control efforts” over time taking the credit? SURPRISE. We’re doing YOUR job as well.


 

Now, as SFATA pointed out, former smokers  who use e-cigarettes – along with the tax in California – and believe me, this will be EVERYWHERE:

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That’s not acceptable.

Sorry, didn’t mean to yell. Who’s in charge? Where is the evidence and science to arbitrarily make things up? WHERE are the leaders? Why aren’t more in “public health” acting like Jim? Who will be the last organization standing? They are lying. They are making business decisions. If they have their way, they both will be. The AHA and the ALA were once well respected organizations within America. They once put their efforts towards helping people stay healthy (and educated, supposedly) in the minds of millions. Now they’re choosing instead to lie recoup millions of dollars in revenue, a day, keeping their business decisions and lies motives at bay to the general public at any cost. Their business decisions are now costing lives.

These (many) organizations who are now placing themselves squarely in the middle of the ring, hell bent on convincing the public they are fighting the good fight on vaping. Their only goal is to L I E to keep pressure on public opinion with the ONLY goal of “regulating” e-cigarettes for the sole purpose of keeping themselves in BUSINESS with tax revenue.

Accountability cannot come soon enough.


 

 

You, as an individual MUST be aware of what’s going on:

Inform yourselves.

casaa.org

vapingmilitia.org

notblowingsmoke.org

http://nomorecasualties.org


 

Your favorite online or brick & mortar retailer MUST be making every effort to keep you COMPLETELY informed of these issues.

If they aren’t a member of a state or national organization FIGHTING for THEIR business, I strongly suggest you find another place to do business.


 

Please, blow social media UP. Tell your non-smoking – non-vaping friends & family members they are being LIED to by these organizations and politicians worldwide.

TELL them about A Billion Lives.



 

I’m also here on Blasting News.

H.R. 2058 is up to now 50 supporters.


 

My challenge to ANY public health professional that nicotine is not addictive on it’s own.


 

E-cigarette Research is HERE.

MORE e-cigarette research is also HERE.

Medical Professionals  go HERE.

MANY Links are to the left and right of this blog! Please see them!

More to come!

Keep ON #Vaping On.

 

Kevin

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

“Big Tobacco” Brand E-Cigarettes. What Experts Think.

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All the “experts” pretending “big tobacco” is gaining a foothold on e-cigarettes. Politicians. Doctors. Public Health. Government. Makes me think that’s what they’re hoping for.

People who don’t have anything better to do to get a tweet for attention – on something they know next to NOTHING about.



I started with a “Krave” – cigalike – and it worked at first  – GOT me to quit smoking. Within a month, I was on – and still use at the moment – an ego style setup. I’m for whatever works. To each his own. It matters not the method, it matters the outcome.

In my opinion, they have a (brief) place in the market, but are only a stepping stone to a better experience with the 2nd, 3rd and now 4th generation e-cigarettes.


As a question to all the “experts”, if the tobacco companies have low success rates with their “style”, what do you think people will do? They’ll go back to smoking.

A follow up: If they won’t tell us what is in cigarettes, what makes you think they’d tell us what’s in their e-cigarette products?


If YOU VAPE, Before you go any further – before you read another line go HERE.




Vapers are speaking out on “tobacco” brand / style e-cigarettes.

Here’s what the last 100 said on the latest survey. No edits to the question:

Do you (or did you) use a “Tobacco Company” brand E-cigarettes?

These are the experts answers.

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They have their place in the market. “Vapor” Cigarettes most definitely have their place in the market as well!
Friday, Oct 9th 5:12PM

I would rather die than give another single red cent to a tobacco company.
Thursday, Oct 8th 11:23AM

They was the first type i tried and they almost discouraged me from trying again, but i did and the mod was a lot more effective
Thursday, Oct 1st 9:22PM

Tobacco Company’s are Legally killing people, I would either like to return the favour or see them jailed.
Tuesday, Sep 29th 6:40PM

I think the tobacco companies have had enough of my money. I would rather support a local vape store that is focused on harm reduction/health and who can show they are using quality ingredients.
Saturday, Sep 26th 3:39AM


They have received enough money from me.
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 1:23PM

I do not trust these people at all. I researched the crap they add to the tobacco and I don’t know how they sleep at night. Shame on big tobacco, shame on the FDA
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 11:29AM

First one i tried, was super strong and made me feel sick. I do not recommend them to anyone.
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 8:18AM

Knowing what I know now, I’d NEVER direct a new vaper to anything related to BT! It won’t work for them and even if it does, it is still lining the pockets of people who want to take away the stuff that actually DOES work for the majority of people!
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 8:02AM


When quitting tobacco I wanted to quit everything about it and wanted NO association with them at all.
I do not associate vaping with smoking. It is not the same thing.
Sunday, Sep 20th 11:04AM


I somehow believe that cigalikes have their mission. They are not so different from smoking ( visual and taste), so for some who try to quit smoking, they can be beneficial. But in the long run, they are not good enough
Monday, Sep 14th 2:54AM


I started with cig-a-likes by premium ecigs. I don’t believe they are big tobacco. I then switched to ego batteries and tanks using juice made by independents
Friday, Sep 11th 2:03PM


Tried them 2 years before I quit cigarettes. Laughably ineffective. Now that I vape real setups I refuse to give tobacco companies the time of day
Friday, Aug 28th 8:26AM

These ones are terrible. Try to act like a cigarette too much.
Tuesday, Aug 11th 7:10PM


Coworkers were unsuccessful with Vuse, so I avoided wasting more money to the Tobacco companies myself.
Friday, Aug 7th 11:05AM

I don’t trust them not to mess with the contents of the eliquid to try and make it more addictive. Nic outside of tobacco has very weak reinforcing properties – it’s the mix of chems in cigs that makes it so addictive in cigarettes.
Tuesday, Aug 4th 7:15AM

I believe I moved from the mark 1 ‘cigarette-like’ e-cigs prior to their acquisition by the tobacco companies
Tuesday, Aug 4th 3:59AM

I believe i have been lied to for far too long by tobacco companies who in my opinion bend the truth to their own financial ends
Monday, Aug 3rd 4:43PM

never purchased one, tried my friends but didn’t like them.
Sunday, Aug 2nd 8:43PM

Besides that I didn’t know I don’t think I would want to …I’ve paid them enough already to try to kill me with all that tobacco garbage.
Sunday, Aug 2nd 8:00PM


I have heard many poor reviews from reputable sources that I’ll never try one and I don’t want to support big tobacco.
From an advanced/hobby vaping perspective they are junk.
Sunday, Aug 2nd 12:14PM

By the time I tried Vuse, I had lost my taste for tobacco so I didn’t like it. Blu did not provide enough nicotine and at the point I tried it did not offer flavors.
Sunday, Aug 2nd 11:11AM


they got me hooked young, but no longer buy ant tobacco company products and neaver will again
Tuesday, Jul 28th 10:57AM

Fuck that, they’ve had enough outa me… I’m surprised I’m still alive thanks to them dirty mother fuckers!
Monday, Jul 27th 12:59PM

I used the Frii system. I have no idea if they are affiliated but I would not knowingly use a device that is tied to the tobacco industry.
Monday, Jul 27th 3:30AM

both were horrible
Sunday, Jul 26th 10:16AM

Use them in a pinch
Sunday, Jul 26th 8:19AM

Tobacco companies should give them away for all the lives they have helped destroy. At last stop selling tobacco.
Sunday, Jul 26th 7:16AM

They are weak and VERY expensive!
Saturday, Jul 25th 11:24PM

Tried the Vuse and the Njoy cigalikes, but they were inefftective and tasted bad. I didn’t know at that time they were owned by Big Tobacco. I’ll never give them my money again.
Saturday, Jul 25th 8:50PM

Very rarely see anyone who successfully quits using cig-alikes. Anyone I’ve met that says they tried them – I recommend using a 2nd or 3rd gen pen or mod from a reputable store with quality e-juice. All have a far more successful outcome.
Saturday, Jul 25th 7:37PM

If .you batteries die I’ll buy one of them before I get a pack of cigarettes.
Saturday, Jul 25th 9:45AM

Tobacco companies don’t offer a product that will let you ADEQUATELY reduce your nicptone gradually… unless you count their AWFUL ego knockoffs.
Friday, Jul 24th 11:39PM

i tried a disposeable one from tesco that was supposed to look and feel like a real cigarette it was too big and heavey in my fingers but taste wise it was ok
Wednesday, Jul 22nd 8:47AM

I used V2 to start but was spending almost the same as smoking
Tuesday, Jul 21st 11:52AM

I actually stuck with a Blu for a long time till I realized it wasn’t meant to be good.
Sunday, Jul 19th 1:05PM

The tobacco companies only put out the closed system pen style systems. I don’t want tobacco flavors and I want control over what I put in it. I don’t want to be stuck buying overpriced, inferior, uncleanable components from only them.
Sunday, Jul 19th 11:12AM

No – they are horrible and horribly made FOR A REASON – to keep people smoking…
Sunday, Jul 19th 9:50AM

These are crap!
I would never try them even at free. I have when I didn’t know better. Knowledge is power.
Sunday, Jul 19th 8:54AM

I had a Vuse on my trip, and it was nice to give me that cigarette feel that I was used to, but it’s not customizable, and you can’t charge it with other e-cig chargers or refill the cartomizer tank with any of your favorite e-liquids. I happened to be in Colorado when I got it and enjoyed the mint and was sorely disappointed to see it wasn’t available in Florida. Plus it just seems super expensive for what it is. It’s okay for a cigarette replacement, but it doesn’t entice people to make the switch, I don’t think.
Saturday, Jul 18th 11:10PM

never again
Saturday, Jul 18th 4:31PM

I’ve tried Mark Ten, but the taste wasn’t good and the mouthpiece heated up and burned my lip. I didn’t use it much, but I still have it. I bought it bc they sent me a coupon for a free one.
Friday, Jul 17th 6:24PM

I seem to be allergic to something in the Logic brand, whenever I use them I get congested, sneeze a bunch and get headaches. Now I use organic e-juice and don’t have those problems.
Thursday, Jul 16th 8:11AM

Only tried one several years ago when travelling. Was not Impressed and resumed looking for outside places to smoke…
Tuesday, Jul 14th 10:21PM

We found a great, locally owned vape shop.
Tuesday, Jul 14th 2:04PM

I no longer use Blue or MarkTen but those are the ones I first tried.
Tuesday, Jul 14th 5:28AM


I can’t stress this enough, I will not support big tobacco anymore. There is one big exception though: if big tobacco would join the market in a meaningful way and specialize in producing extracted tobaccos or nicotine concentrate, while at the same time supporting the change to vaping with their lobbying, I might reconsider.
Sunday, Jul 12th 9:03PM


If I can help it I avoid tobacco owned products. For the most part that I am aware of the the tobacco companies do not make the style devices that I use anyway. I personally feel that vaping needs to be seen as a stand alone and having tobacco companies getting involved makes it hard. Vaping is NOT smoking and it needs to not be seen as such
Monday, Jul 13th 4:45PM

The tobaco companies put out ecigs to have them fail and be expensive to get smokers to give up on ecigs and vaping and go back to smoking thier tobaco products again.
Monday, Jul 13th 4:52PM

The e-cigarettes made my tobacco companies are literally disguisting. They basically make you want a real cigarette as soon as you use one.
Monday, Jul 13th 4:28PM

I know they do the vuse, and other cig a likes I will not spend another dime on an industry set on destroying companies and mom/pop shops. Makes me angry
Monday, Jul 13th 2:11PM

I received a coupon for a free MarkTen starter kit. It was unsatisfying and frustrating. Then, someone gave us a coupon for a Haus starter kit and some ejuice … I was HOOKED! After that, I found a whole world of vaping and mods and flavored juice …
Monday, Jul 13th 3:59PM

BIG TOBACCO SUCKS, I wouldn’t give them the time of day. THEY have killed half my family with those stupid coffin nails!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Monday, Jul 13th 3:29PM

They are only marginally effective, the way advanced devices have progressed they have missed the boat IMO
Monday, Jul 13th 12:55PM

Most tasted like asphalt. Sticking with my fruit and dessert flavors.
Monday, Jul 13th 1:27PM

Who makes ELites? I don’t know. But that didn’t work for me anyway.
Monday, Jul 13th 11:54AM

They were SO SHIT. I cannot emphasize this enough.
Monday, Jul 13th 10:29AM

While they were not effective for me, if they work to help a person to stop smoking they have their place.
Monday, Jul 13th 9:36AM

Started with NJoy cig-alike. Battery and atomizer life was not adequate to fulfill my needs. This device made me more addicted to nicotine due to high nicotine levels in their pre-filled atomizers.
Monday, Jul 13th 8:28AM

I have given them enough money. All they ever gave me was health problems and grief. I’ll never give tobacco companies another penny.
Monday, Jul 13th 2:09AM

Tobacco companies hadn’t really gotten into the e-cigarette market when I started vaping. By the time they did, I had moved on to the Ego.
Sunday, Jul 12th 7:33PM


I refuse to give anymore of my money to tobacco companies. They’ve had a stranglehold on people for far too long!
Sunday, Jul 12th 6:14PM

I tried a few with free coupons (I refuse to give more money to tobacco companies). None of them worked and they tasted disgusting.
Sunday, Jul 12th 5:30PM

Only used one day. It stated that one would last for about a day or equal to a pack of cigs. Lasted about three hours then died.
Sunday, Jul 12th 6:17PM

Used it when I first got out of Basic Training as I didn’t have access to my APV from home and had already fallen back to cigarettes.
Sunday, Jul 12th 6:48PM

the cigalike types i have tried never gave me close to what i needed to quit smoking and made me want a cigarette rather than to quit smoking.
Sunday, Jul 12th 5:21PM

Tried the MarkTen only in a study I participated in.
Sunday, Jul 12th 5:11PM

I tried a vuse one time and it made me sick. I threw it away!
Sunday, Jul 12th 4:54PM

Blu didn’t work for me. I was still smoking until I bought the Ego in November of 2013.
Sunday, Jul 12th 4:42PM

I did not use them… my husband did and once we found out that Big Tobacco had bought them out and were the ones producing them did not trust them to be safe because of not trusting the Big Tobacco and did not want to give Big Tobacco any more of our money
Sunday, Jul 12th 2:33PM

They didn’t work for me because they were WAY TOO STRONG. They were 18mg, and I was used to about 4mg.
Sunday, Jul 12th 3:31PM


Tried the Blue not knowing that big tobacco produced them. Didn’t do a thing for me. I did like the blue glow at night but that was all I liked about it.
Sunday, Jul 12th 3:29PM


From everything I have heard from fellow vapers, the tobacco company brand e cigs are disgusting. That statement from a friend who vapes and tried one of those digital ecigs. He said it was the absolute worse tasting, less vapor, less everything ecig he had ever tried. Which imparted to me that I will not now, nr will I ever try or use one of those things. Even if the FDA bans ecigs, guess I’ll be an outlaw an use everything I have now. At worse I’ll go back to my tubular mech mods and use all my attys on them, I will NOT go to a tobacco company’s brand of ecig.
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:14PM

Blu before they were bought out, then changed as they were very expensive
Sunday, Jul 12th 2:34PM

If you run out of batteries or juice, they are cheap and available at most late night shops in London. So they come in handy at times.
Sunday, Jul 12th 2:20PM

was not really happy with this one, too weak of a draw and bland flavor. I don’t know if this type can really help people quit as well.
Sunday, Jul 12th 2:20PM

I tried one. It tasted like garbage. Can’t remember the brand.
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:07PM

They ended up being the same price as cigarettes in the end-that’s something I can’t afford. They’re also extremely dissatisfying. There are better batteries that last longer and replaceable/refillable cartridges in the independent side of the industry that perform better and are cheaper in the end for the consumer.
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:40PM

It didn’t work.
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:28PM

The ones that look like cigs did nothing for me
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:00PM

Tried a couple found they taste like crap. Didn’t even realize they were made by tobacco companies at the time.
Sunday, Jul 12th 10:23AM

Some people are anxious to stray too far from what they are comfortable with so a cig a like would be beneficial to them for a short time
Sunday, Jul 12th 10:50AM

The very first time way back. I believe they were from Reynolds, but don’t see the name here. As I said, I believe one problem was the nicotine level was too low. Also the batteries died quickly and were expensive to replace.
Sunday, Jul 12th 10:40AM

tobacco company didn’t produce any when i first started e-cigs
Sunday, Jul 12th 9:09AM

I tried a couple of puffs from a ” blu” e-cig. It was gross!! I don’t want to taste tobacco flavor anymore!!
Sunday, Jul 12th 5:38AM

The first 3 months I used tobacco flavor, Virginia tobacco, but changes to sweets and fruit flavors.
Sunday, Jul 12th 3:45AM

was not satisfied with them
Sunday, Jul 12th 4:32AM

I have a local vape shop and went there. They have their own line of juices plus offer several well known small batch USA made juice brands. I started early so the brands listed were not available at the time I started vaping, and I have no interest in “cig-alikes” because I find they do not have the power I need to enjoy vaping.
Sunday, Jul 12th 3:06AM


Tried an NJOY cigalike
Saturday, Jul 11th 9:21PM

I don’t support the companies that are trying to label vaping as smoking. Just by definition it’s not the same.
Saturday, Jul 11th 9:18PM


I was already on a tank style but suggested them to my husband. When he bought the Mark 10 I tried it- it was gross!
Saturday, Jul 11th 9:32PM

I do not think the cig a likes I first started in were make by Big tobacco like Blu’s are but they could have been. I consider them to be a bit of a scam for people just trying to quit.
Saturday, Jul 11th 7:34PM

Not tasted more of them!
Saturday, Jul 11th 6:32PM


The vuse has 48% nic in it. Can we say way over kill even with that high nic it was not satisifying and just made me feel like crap.
Saturday, Jul 11th 6:33PM

Tobacco companies have had enough of my money over the years. I encourage others not to buy big tobacco brands for the same reasons.
Saturday, Jul 11th 1:23PM

Sent off for free sample of Vype (I think) stashed away as a back up emergency use only
Saturday, Jul 11th 11:10AM

I tried the Blu years ago and they did nothing for me… I didnt like the flavor and the hit was horrible!
Saturday, Jul 11th 11:47AM


I despise big tobacco. I will never buy any product from them at any cost. They are amongst the most corrupt businesses in the world.
Saturday, Jul 11th 1:13AM

The flavor was nasty.
Saturday, Jul 11th 12:47AM

They were terrible. Bad taste and so behind on technology
Friday, Jul 10th 11:47PM

There you have it. “Big Tobacco” from #Vapers. Imagine, if their “style” is the only thing available, they win either way.

If they’re the only thing available, and they’re not effective – then people go back to smoking.

Some are worried about this. Well, that’s what they want!

 

bigtobacco


Thanks to you who took the survey!


Research on ECIGS is well published and available  HERE and HERE

Medical Professionals are HERE


A work in perpetual progress: Vapinglinks.com

More to come – including the final analysis of the last survey!
Keep On #Vaping On
Kevin.