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E-Cigs & Vaping. Fighting For Livelihood, Fighting For Lives. Here’s a phone number.

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Some are fighting for their livelihood; some are fighting for lives.

 David Goerlitz would like a phone call or an email and is offering HELP.

Here’s his email and phone number.

He stated the phone line is open:

609-234-0220.

He’s also available at his email:

kgkjkl@yahoo.com…..

He’s not joking and neither am I…


Don’t know who Mr. Goerlitz is? I didn’t either till around December. I’ll get back to that.


W.H.O. , Governments. Politicians. Health Care. Health Organizations like the American Lung / Heart Associations. Anti-Tobacco. Tobacco. Pharmaceutical Companies. Doctors. Nurses. Pharmacies.

Big Corporations carrying those products that are to keep you well like drug stores and supermarkets. They’re doing the best they can fighting as well.


They have to keep money coming in, or they’ll lose a foothold. At what cost? I believe its at the very least the cost of lives. Those products had research/development. Lots of cash.


Those companies and conglomerates have investors. Investors want profit. It’s been said in this blog – Greg Conley of the AVA said vaping/ecigs are a disruptive technology.

I said in a previous blog somewhere It is again, disrupting alright. It’s disrupting cash flow from all of the above.


Those are people we vapers call antz. Those people are fighting for their livelihood. Grants. MSA funding. Tax dollars. Poorly portrayed reports in media. Misconstruing data. Pretending. Santa Claus. But its working. They’ve taken over. They’ve convinced the masses their way in ANY WAY & form that they can. We KNOW what they’re doing… what are WE doing???

For you who DO make noise, awesome. Someone heard you, I know I’ve heard quite a few. I’m SURE you know who are. We’ve probably crossed paths on Facebook or Twitter by now. You know where I stand…

For you who haven’t made any noise …. either stay quiet, become loud, or don’t WHINE and shrug your shoulders when regulation becomes control, taxation and possible bans………………..Yes I said bans. If you’re a reviewer, say something on your video about advocacy to your viewers. Maybe they don’t know. Put a clip of it up. Draw 30 seconds of attention to it. If you’re a vendor, you’ve got NO excuse not to be screaming….maybe not monetary, but you should be telling your customers and screaming at the government. By screaming I mean letters, phone calls, emails… I’ve SEEN a little of that on facebook & twitter….   MORE!


 With few exceptions, those supporting and involved directly with M.O.V.E, or those about to join ranks with M.O.V.E. are the source of truth. Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos and his team (my apologies for not naming names with him at the moment) are standing up to the world, standing UP to an extremely large agenda with class and purpose (they) have continuously shown for those who can’t.” There are others here & abroad.You know who you are, and I thank you.



For the record, I smoked for 30 + years. I’ve vaped almost 2 years. I lost my father to lung cancer last fall. I lost my Grandmother to lung cancer as well. We have been a family of smokers till death do they part. Duh. I miss them dearly, and had they known vaping, they’d be screaming louder than I am.


I DON’T care if you smoke, dual use, just started out… or have been vaping exclusively for years. If you’re vaping and you’re on line… you’ve got future generations needing a choice in this matter.


Are you comfortable?

Are you happy? Are you satisfied? Are you able to do it yourself? Do you care?

Are you complacent?

Full Definition of COMPLACENT

1:  marked by self-satisfaction especially when accompanied by unawareness of actual dangers or deficiencies :  marked by complacency :  self-satisfied <a complacent smile>
2:  complaisant 1
3:  unconcerned        com·pla·cent·ly adverb

 SO.

Vapers / consumers have been dependent on CASAA and the VAPING MILITIA  to fight for us. I asked someone recently if they were too passive. Too complacent. Too laid back.  I think they are.

Is it funding? is it complacency? Is is me? This is a HUGE fight. Cloud blowing and trinkets are awesome…..I’m all for it,  but there’s a much bigger battle. I’m not saying they’re not doing anything, I’m saying more needs to be done.


WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT LOUD ENOUGH.

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We’re playing footsies. Tickle tickle.


This is a fight not easily fought or won for the deeming regulation to occur in the USA…. I don’t know about funding, money, lobbying, cash flow, donations, calls to action, none of that bullshit either, it’s not my expertise and I’ve never run an org…….. I thankfully have a job. I enjoy social media for fun, I love the funny cat video or hand check like the next guy…. we’re all human……but I did notice THIS:


 A photo at the FDA facebook page got 7,000+ comments with a #vapingsavedmylife hashtag. I joined in… on the survey page on facebook and twitter…..

THEN I started tweeting/hitting facebook with DEEMING REGULATION.

It is about loose tobacco – pipes… it’s not just vaping……….it’s about control……………..


The tweets by me the other night were modestly retweeted about the deeming regulation and shared on facebook by a few more…   now, updated daily, the FDA site where DEEMING REGULATION will invariably happen… regulation=control=tax=bans and very stringent guidelines……………………….. As of today:

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As of today on the comments of the DEEMING REGULATION at the FDA site updated Friday:

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 That just pisses me off.

Dimitris retweeted me. A few others did too…. big accounts…to get some real action on the FDA site…..not even a “like”from some…..imagine that. BIG players in the field of vaping.

What the HELL is wrong with you people????

   There are 13,000+ on CASAA’s facebook page. There are over 8,000 on the Vaping Militia facebook page.

No, not all would see a tweet or post on that page, not all that are on facebook are members in the USA, so lets say 10 percent – that’s 2100 comments……………………………… but you can BUMP a video of a cat???

Can you pin a tweet? Can you understand you’re being played? Do you not know what this is about?

It’s about health. It’s about choice.

Finally it’s about control, and continued control of cash.

Your cash. Your children’s cash & health.

It’s about us fighting for their lives.

If you dismiss everything I’ve said about the USA above, keep going…

It’s been banned in other countries. BANNED in other countries.

That pisses me off.

I don’t know that I do everything “right”.

It’s easy to armchair the orgs from where I am. We have to keep doing SOMETHING.

now it’s up to merchants & individuals to be LOUD AS HELL as WELL….

SFATA & AVA are on that side, if you didn’t know and you’re a vendor, shame on you.



Well, David Goerlitz would like a phone call or an email to HELP. Here’s his email and phone number.

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email kgkjkl@yahoo.com……


David Goerlitz. You might recognize him, you might not. I don’t know Mr. Goerlitz myself, but was within an email only conversation with him today, and remember emailing him some time ago on FB about something. That said, I’m going to just post some of his comments – and remember – his phone line is open and if it’s busy, I’m sure he’s got voicemail. I will give his number again, and again…. at the bottom along with his blog.

“Here is where you should pay attention”


He said in part on an email:

I guess I need to tweet, twit, hash tag, or twitter to be taken seriously. I’m old school Kevin and yes you can use whatever I have for whatever you want. I don’t do selfie’s or brag about my past. But it DOES play a roll
I’ll let you read his comments.
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Again in August:

“can’t return a phone call”

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“609 234-0220……email kgkjkl@yahoo.com……I guess I need to tweet, twit, hash tag, or twitter to be taken seriously. I’m old school Kevin and yes you can use whatever I have for whatever you want. I don’t do selfie’s or brag about my past. But it DOES play a roll……………………”




David is, after all, the

http://formerwinstonman.com/ 

and understands what we’re up against. Read his blog. I don’t know if anyone will get this far in it, but if you don’t care, as you were. If you do care, do something, if I hurt your feelings, aww. If I pissed you off, GOOD. If I motivated you as an individual or a company… vendors I’m talking to YOU…..reviewers too…. and you’re going to be active at your B&M, good. Be aware…. it’s coming. David’s BEEN saying so. To the CASAA & Vaping Militia, if you know the knowledge he has, above and beyond what we do, and it is there to use, I won’t ask why you haven’t called David yet, I now will only ask “when will you”, and what else can I do? I’ll always be gladly willing to learn & take suggestions.


David’s number again if you missed it is

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email: kgkjkl@yahoo.com……


Roly Gate had this on E-Cigarette Politics and it is spot ON. Campaign For Truth In Public Health ***********


Well, David Goerlitz would like a phone call or an email to HELP. Here’s his email and phone number.

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email kgkjkl@yahoo.com……


Keep On #Vaping On. Kevin

Merchant Of Doubt. Creator of Doom. Professor of Tobacco Control, Stanton Glantz.

glantzzzzzzzzzzzz With so many controversies over e-cigarettes & vaping, now approaching is the pending possibility of regulating e-cigarettes and other forms of tobacco by the F.D.A, along with the their accepting comments from the public for it’s “deeming legislation”, and there are suddenly many “experts”. Enter Stanton Glantz..


Glantz has a background in tobacco control. You said in 1990 addiction helps people like you pay mortgages…. and in 1992, you stated “if the answer is yes, then we do it, and if the answer is I don’t know, then we don’t bother. That’s the criteria……. for research… wow…. Go ahead, click on it. tobacco2


Some experts are popping up like dandelions in your fresh spring lawn in the arenas of public health, TV doctors, reporters, politicians, even people with no degrees at all… and people in tobacco control against e-cigarettes. Stan has been around awhile. Glantz has a background in tobacco control. It would seem obvious that any professor in tobacco control would see the benefits in using an e-cigarette as a viable way to reduce harm that, if the person chose to get off tobacco for good, a professor would be in favor of just that. That way, an alleged leader in tobacco “control” would have in essence, controlled said use of tobacco. Well, that’s not really the way it is at least out in sunny California.


Stanton Glantz, with his title of PhD and “Professor of Medicine” “Professor of Tobacco Control” (Is that a real title?) is more about “control”. A Professor of doubt, a creator of doom. Seemingly, Glantz is “all powerful and all knowing”, kind of like the wizard of odd. As a “Merchant of Doom” in a smoke filled tobacco world, he’s an expert at pretending there is no research with e-cigarettes, that there’s no results. You’d think with a PhD. , and millions of dollars in funding at his fingertips at the University of California, San Francisco, he’d have defeated tobacco by now, wouldn’t you? You’d think with all that funding from trusting people, there would be nothing but fact and truth coming out of someone’s mouth holding such a prestigious position. You’d think. Stan just posted a blog. Stan likes control. Remember how his attitude was before: “if the answer is yes, then we do it, and if the answer is I don’t know, then we don’t bother. That’s the criteria……. for research… so how different has that become years later???


No bias here………….

http://cleanairquality.blogspot.co.uk/2008/01/stanton-glantzs-400000-funding-from.html?m=1

grant


I will give my rebuttle in italics and bold on his blog post below on the statements from Stan’s recent blog post he “considers” with his opinion. Remember, he’s a researcher, but science, fact & opinion seem to confuse him in an uncanny way. He seem to glide seamlessly and effortlessly with his words, craftily designed like he might actually be an English teacher, but I think not. His title & a link to it if you desire to read it on it’s own. Love the “(almost)” in his title… he needs to brush it up, like I will his post.


A sensible plan for effective FDA regulation of e-cigarette marketing (almost) now http://tobacco.ucsf.edu/sensible-plan-effective-fda-regulation-e-cigarette-marketing-almost-now Submitted by sglantz on Tue, 2015-03-17 12:58 Eric Lindblom, who headed the Office of Policy in the FDA Center for Tobacco Products and is now on detail at the Georgetown University School of Law, just published “Effectively Regulating E-Cigarettes and Their Advertising— and the First Amendment” in Food and Drug Law Journal. This paper is the an amazingly creative and incisive analysis of how to get out-of-control e-cigarette marketing under control as soon as the FDA achieves authority to regulate e-cigarettes.


You make an astonishing and asinine assumption of the “e-cigarette marketing being “out of control” and I find it a creative and incisive analysis… good for you Stan…. you have tried to come up with one of your own recently? You must watch a LOT of television and see a load of print ads… The part where you say “as soon as the FDA achieves authority to regulate e-cigarettes”…. that may happen, I’m not sure, but you seem to know they will. That’s pretty arrogant. Let’s continue, shall we?


Lindbloom notes that there are two possible justifications for allowing e-cigarettes on the market:


I, along with millions, only need one justification, getting myself off cigarettes. It worked flawlessly.


1. The might help current smokers quit cigarettes. 2. The might be an effective harm reduction strategy for current smokers.


“might, according to Lindbloom, is a questionable statement. He obviously listens to you. They DO help current smokers quit. “might be effective harm reduction”…. isn’t that what ANY tobacco control professor wants? People OFF tobacco?


He notes that there are several ways in which e-cigarettes could result in increased harm:


((“could” and “increased harm”)). Really? No science to back yourself up, Stan? No studies to point to or link? Ironically, being a researcher, you have no research on your part…. man that was SO disappointing you didn’t even try. Well… you’re wrong about ‘increased harm”, Stan- there are PLENTY of studies by real researchers, doctors, scientists even, stating there is significantly LESS harm, considering it’s not combustible tobacco, but you’re the expert? Researchers (what you claim to be?) Scientists & Doctors have done plenty of research and you simply insult them – your colleagues in the field – by saying there isn’t any: E-Cigarette Research (http://www.ecigalternative.com/ecigarette-studies-research.htm))) You also tried to create a false sense of harm in your #curbit campaign. Denying the above research and keeping people on cigarettes. Is that your goal, Stan? Continued funding and job security???


Your proud moment in the #curbit campaign on Twitter, claiming toxic vapor, that e-cigs are cigarettes, and frankly misleading anyone into thinking they would be educated is ironic: S4


1. Kids who would not otherwise have smoked addicts start using e-cigarettes. 2. Former smokers take up e-cigarettes. 3. Former smokers relapse to smoking cigarettes again.


Face it Stan…. I’m calling you out on the “kids” thing. Children is a ploy Stan. It’s a catch all “doom” statement because you have nothing else. If all your work on tobacco control all these years was working like you profess it, then there would be no children SMOKING.  See Gate? No Way! here: Gate? No Way! (Thank you Mr. Zillitron). Former smokers “taking up” e-cigarettes (Adults with choices) would keep them from and OFF combustible tobacco. (Your life’s work and goal?) Former smokers relapse on other forms of smoking cessation-quite a BIT more. Either way, they’re off tobacco… still not getting it are you, and again, you’re a researcher?


While the first two points about the potential benefits of e-cigarettes are controversial,


Not to people wanting a choice to be off of combustible tobacco in a design that works effectively, it’s not “controversial”… just to you, Stan. the last three are not. Indeed, the major challenge to e-cigarette enthusiasts is how to craft a policy/regulatory environment in which the possible benefits of e-cigarettes can occur without the collateral damage of promoting increased nicotine addiction in never or former smokers.


Your assumption with the word “possible” astounds me. Are you for it or against it? “Collateral damage”? Nicotine is something else you need to research, Stan. I thought you were a RESEARCHER! Here, buddy, here’s just one link to nicotine, I don’t want to burden you with too much information at once but would like to point out that this link is from a TOBACCO HARM REDUCTION SITE in case your assistants can’t be with you to help you see it: Nicotine FAQ’s http://tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq/nicotine.htm Please note that some people not only reduce their nicotine by choice, some go as far as to use NO nicotine! I know – it’s such a surprise! Their thought is that nicotine itself is dangerous in this form comes from people like you. I can’t imagine you need to know this, yet I need to be sure we’re clear on this: The carcinogens and chemicals in tobacco from combustion of said chemicals are what is dangerous in cigarette smoking, not the nicotine.


Lindbloom presents a sensible and practical solution: Limit e-cigarette advertising and promotion to highly targeted direct-to-consumer contact materials that only go to confirmed current smokers.


Ummmm what??? Are you nuts? You want to support a “sensible and practical” solution? Are you turning the tide on your stance, Gl  ANTZ?


This is something that companies can do given their databases of current smokers.


Well, Stan, are you contributing your cash to do this? Try another #curbit campaign, that did wonders. This is something you could have done in promoting e-cigarettes rather than pretending there’s no research.


This highly focused advertising would get e-cigarette advertisements out of mass media (including the internet) and greatly reduce exposure to nonsmokers.


Are you a moonlight advertising executive and you’ve been holding out on me?


Lindbloom carefully assesses the First Amendment issues and shows how the FDA could do this discretionary enforcement authority without any new rulemaking.


I can only picture you rubbing your hands together with glee over discretionary enforcement. Control has just gone to your head now, hasn’t it…


This approach would not only allow action much faster – years faster – than using rule making, but it would also be easier to defend in court.


I think, with this statement the way it is, its just more hand rubbing…


If it turns out that e-cigarettes do not help smokers quit, keep people smoking (which I think is their actual effect)


Oh look folks, more opinion!!! I THINK it is their actual effect. ((Ugh! I think you’re an idiot!)) They DO help people quit:


or that they turn out to be a lot more dangerous than the optimists think


TURN OUT to be???? You really want people to take you seriously??? See research again Stan: E-Cigarette Research (http://www.ecigalternative.com/ecigarette-studies-research.htm)


(i.e. if assumptions 1 and/or 2 turn out to be wrong) , the FDA can adjust its rules. But the damage will only be done to current smokers and the significant collateral damage listed in items 3, 4, and 5 will have been avoided.


Are you telling the FDA they can “adjust its rules”??? You have some control issues, Stan. Have you seen a psychologist for that? Damage… well, again, refer to that research… I keep having to tell you it’s there. This is getting old. E-Cigarette Research (http://www.ecigalternative.com/ecigarette-studies-research.htm)))


Everyone at the FDA needs to study this paper with an open mind and see that the deeming rule which is now being finalized does not inadvertently make it harder to implement this plan.


“An Open Mind.” Simon Chapman hasn’t blocked me, I actually like some of his information. Engage properly with people in the twitter arena instead of insisting on your way or the highway, Stan. You might learn something. See if you can have an open mind sometime. You don’t do any research so you might as well ponder the wonders of learning.

S


And, while the technical details of Lindbloom’s plan are written for the US, the ideas can be easily implemented in other countries. Indeed, they may be easier to implement in countries that do not deify commercial speech the way the US Supreme Court does.


“the ideas can be easily implemented in other countries”? They may be easier??? Now you want to control the world??? You REALLY need to see a professional. Consult your Psych. Department over there at the University Of California.


Probably even more important, public health advocates need to read this paper and start pressing the FDA, their keepers in the Obama Administration, and pro-health members of Congress to make sure that this plan gets implemented.


“Probably” even more important. Is it important? You sound tired here. You must hydrate once in a while between naps. It should read something like “I implore” or “must”. Those words are strong, show you mean business and would’ve been better to get people to “start pressing the FDA” to get this implemented. What exactly IS more important? Again, get off your high horse. You are a researcher. You would think the most important goal in a TOBACCO CONTROL researcher would be to get people OFF TOBACCO. Off of cigarettes. With all the research showing it’s MUCH less harmful than cigarettes I’d think you could see that by now.





While I admit your resume’ is impressive. Your integrity is quite questionable. Your ability to try to be cute and not have any idea that research isn’t being done is stunning, but it’s getting old, but you keep at it. Pompous, self-centered and beyond your time, there are people who are helping the world. Real Researchers. Real Doctors. Real Scientists. You insult your community and dismiss, sidestep and misconstrue the very idea that e-cigarettes are safe.



Well, glANTZ, they are safe. E-cigarettes are not only safe in comparison to smoking cigarettes that they’re saving lives. They’re much safer than you trying to keep people from it. Your goal in tobacco harm reduction is to get people off of tobacco. I would presume you would be the first to know that. Do some real research, make a phone call, stop making false claims. You are endangering people and giving them the illusion that an e-cigarette is worse in your #curbit campaign. That deters people and keeps them smoking when they believe the lies you’ve spread. That is irresponsible, that is costing lives. You know, you might make a better politician than researcher. Do some research, check that out…


I’m no one important. I did do a Vaping Truth Survey – Here’s the final analysis, that by default, discredits you with no grants, staff or offices in the very things you elude to…….


Turns out I and THOUSANDS of vapers have done more research than you via E-Cigarette Research (http://www.ecigalternative.com/ecigarette-studies-research.htm)


Dear Stanton Glantz: If millions of e-cigarette users are wrong around the world by benefiting with e-cigarettes, and ONE researcher is right…… isn’t that something you should take up with your math department being statistically unsound? A concerned and much healthier e-cigarette user. As always, Keep On #Vaping On.

Kevin

NZ, thank you again.

Taking Chances with Chantix or Zyban to Quit Smoking

ZybanDoctor’s orders: take your medicine, take your chances. Zyban and Chantix are government approved prescribed medications to allegedly help smokers stop smoking.

Extremely important information from consumers experiencing side-effects from Zyban and Chantix was collected in this survey. Detrimental effects of these medications were reported and were a huge topic in the comments .


In question # 10 of the Vaping Truth Survey, it was asked
“What other methods did you try to stop smoking before you stopped with vaping”.

Dangers, side effects, issues with these approved prescription drugs mixing with others are just a few of the reasons they cannot be used effectively as a way to stop smoking according to experience from others.

Searching on the results JUST where it was mentioned in the comments for Chantix & Zyban, here is what you said (no edits):



Chantix & Zyban



1. Chantix send me into depression.. Awful effect for me

2. The patch caused skin irritation and nughtmares. The gum caused digestive issues. Cold turkey worked for a short time because I was pregnant. And Chantix caused horrible nausea and nightmares.

3. Chantix was awful. It messed with how I felt and caused anxiety. Gum def didn’t work. Patch burned my skin, gave me super weird dreams. Vaping, has had no negative side effects.

4. SEVERELY allergic to Chantix Few times patch worked for a short time ONLY vaping has stopped and kept me stopped from smoking.

5. My mother has tried everything listed and this year suffered a DVT. She took both Zyban and Chantix. Zyban almost worked, and then she got sick from it. Chantix made her hallucinate, and have violent night terrors, having never had any of those symptoms ever before in her life. She’s still suffering some side effects a year plus after going off the Chantix. She quit smoking with vaping, going from a pack a day to zero, as suggested by her doctor, to save her life. Since quitting she’s gone off her high blood pressure medication and lost weight.

6. nothing works as well as vaping sorry chantix has too many horrible side effects
7. I didn’t try chantix because of the serious side effects

8. Chantix Makes you nuts. It should be taken off the market

9. Nothing worked. Chantix made me want to kill myself. I daydreamed about the ways I would do it. Pharmaceuticals are not the way to go.

10. none worked and Chantix had too many side effects
11. Chantix made me irritable and mean. Cold turkey I didn’t have enough self control for. The lozenges and gum did not help with the hand to mouth feel of smoking so it wasn’t good enough either.

12. You couldn’t get me to take Chantix or Zyban at any price.

13. Chantix (prescription) made me an absolute nut, patch and inhaler didn’t work for more than a month (I would go right back to it), and cold turkey didn’t work at all.

14. Chantix gave me extreme nightmares and very “weird” thoughts during the day….

15. I can’t take drugs like Chantix or Zyban, because I am on psychiatric medications which will be negatively affected by Chantix or Zyban.

16. These items are just plain crap…don’t work. Chantix drove me crazy, in a fog with Hypnosis, still smoked with the patch, lit a smoke after chewing the gum.

17. All hopeless -‘Champix” put me in hospital with bleeding from the bowel, patches wouldn’t stick even with tape wrapped around my arm over the patch, gums and books useless, cold turkey needs too much will power when you are an addict.

18. Tried Chantix but eventually went back to cigarettes

19. Neither medications like Chantix or patches/gums worked in my case. The withdrawal syndrome was too strong or they had some unexpected secondary effects.

20. Chantix kills…or helps you kill yourself at a very high cost $

21. I stopped short of Chantix as my brother used it to stop smoking and suicided within three months.

22. Am unable to take any prescribed pills like Chantix or Zyban, so tried the patch and gum but found myself wanting a cigarette at the same time.

23. Patch was not effective. I quit smocking 2 times for 1 years with champix (french version of chantix), but 2 times I get back to smock after ~1 year

24. I actually got the Chantix script from my doctor and got it filled but in the end, I was too terrified to take it, after researching it and reading about all the suicides, etc. It went down the toilet. Vaping is MUCH MUCH SAFER.

25. That last resort was Chantix and Zyban. It caused me to hallucinate. I gave the packets back to my doctor. As with patches, no effect except dizziness, rash on my skin, and I could even have one patch on each arm and smoke at the same time. I tired the Allan Carr method, his book is a con inmy opinion, it should be banned !

26. none worked, also Chantix, Zyban terrible side affects, all other did not work.

27. I have quit before successfully with chantix started again here and there with a smoking coworker or while fishing

28. Chantix/Champix gave me other, and far worse, problems than smoking. Severe depression is a bitch!

29. Chantix actually put me in a mental ward

30. I refused to try Chantix because my Brother in Law almost commited suicide while taking Chantix! Way too many side effects

31. My last attempt before rediscovering vaping was another trial with chantix along side of recovering from larengeal surgery because of a cancer scare. I lasted about one month. I would sa I have been desperate to quit for the last 15 years, but none of those options made it possible for me until I picked up my e-cig.

32. People have killed themselves while on Chantix. It made my mental state worse, giving terrible dreams & thoughts. Patches made my arm or wherever placed ache & hurt badly. Gum is gross & just doesn’t even do anything for me

33. None of them worked like vaping did. Especially not having to deal with side effects that Chantix gave me.

34. Chantix is evil

35. After one week on chantix I got depressed and was told by the doctor to stop using it as people have committed suicide on it. Other nrt either tasted horrible or made me itch or hurt my throat. After having acupuncture I left the building and had a fag. Self help books didnt teach me anything i didn’t already know. telling smokers that they will die won’t help anybody.

36. Chantix can help, it’s the best method after vaping

37. They lied about Chantix. I will not recommend this product to anyone.

38. Chantix helped me to quit for two years. Bad idea – while taking chantix i got palpitations, vertigo feelings and blurred vision. Terrible stuff.

39. Chantix is quite literally a nightmare.

40. Chantix/Champix made me want to finish myself..

41. patch gave me skin issues and bad dreams, cold turkey works as long as you don’t get stressed out and use the stress as an excuse to start smoking again.. and the chantix made me want to cut my own throat and, scary nightmares.

42. More scared of another round of Chantix (Champix) than dying of cigarettes!

43. I believe that both Zyban and Chantix ( Champix) should be banned because of heir side effects.

44. I am allergic to corn and have celiac as well as panic disorder. NO doctor would ever even think of giving me Chantix. NO doctor wanted me to quit smoking either. It was horrific on my pain levels and threw me into a depression. I am also allergic to adhesive so no patches. No gum or anything because of the corn. Cold turkey would have killed me.

45. Chantix made me crazy and un-well!

46. chantix zyban was a project from my previous workprovider (FORD), miserably failed. Cold turkey, i dont got a backbone for that. Patch and gums just dont do it for me at all.

47. I used champix and I regret using it. I have had stomach problems ever since. I think it did something to either the lining of my stomach or changed the chemical balance somehow? I quit on it, but it made me so very sick using it. As soon as I was off the “drug” I went back to smoking within days both times.

48. Chantix had side effects and once I went off the med the desire to smoke came right back.

49. The patch resulted in a 5 week cessation, with cravings remaining. Cold turkey lasted only hours. I wanted to try Chantix or Zyban, but I have epilepsy and so both drugs are contraindicated.

50. I tried chantix twice

51. The patch irritated my skin. Nic gum tastes like crap. Tried Chantix and it gave me nightmares. Vaping is the only thing that worked for me.

52. doctor would not give me chantix because of my health problems
53. hypnosis wasn’t available in my backwoods town. I did have lazer therapy as well but it lasted less than a week. Chantix made me have really dark thoughts so I had to get off of it.

54. Alan Carr helped for a while, and another book. Patches were irritating to my skin and didn’t work. I find chewing gum in public as offensive as some people find smoking! Even the packaging of Chantix warns that it could turn me into a ticking bomb, and I thought it would be irresponsible of me to take it.

55. I just can’t quit cold turkey. (I actually enjoy smoking). The patch makes me go numb and tingly where it’s applied, i.e.: on my arm, my arm will go numb and tingly. I can’t chew gum and the inhaler made me vomit. Accupunture worked for about a week (I think it was a placebo effect) and self help books haven’t helped. Drugs are not an option for me. I have suicidal thoughts on Zyban and on Chantix I was vomitting serverly. Having an eating disorder I can’t stay on Chantix. I lost over 8lbs in the week I was on it. Very dangerous for me.

56. Chantix was the absolute worst thing I ever did the night mares were horrible I felt awful from it. I did try everything first!

57. Chantix made me sick.

58. None of them work! Cold Turkey worked for a day max. Self help books seem superficial. Chantix made me all kinds of crazy and depressed. The gum is actually not bad but very expensive and not very safe. The patch did nothing for me other than make me more addicted because I would crave the nicotine and put on a patch but still needed that oral fixation and ended up smoking sometimes.

59. suicidal on Chantix

60. You name it I tried it. I wasn’t allowed to try Chantix or Zyban though because I am bi-polar and it would have interfered with my medication.

61. Chantix drove me nuts…can’t believe the FDA approved that one. Hypnosis made me feel like everything was in slow motion. Patches and gum did nothing for the cravings.

62. I tried everything I was able to when my husband was alive because he was a non-smoker and hated me smoking. The longest period I was able to remain smoke-free was cold-turkey (5 days). I could not use gum or lozenges after a while due to side-effects and my doctor refused to prescribe Chantix or Zyban as he sees them as too dangerous. Eventually I gave up giving up as I always failed and I enjoyed smoking.

63. I tried all these and not one even came close to me putting down my cigarettes I was just adding more nicotine to my habit because I still smoked while using them. Chantix/Zyban are really scary they can make you feel agitated and depressed

64. The patch and gum made me feel ill. Cold turkey made me so irritable, family was begging for me to smoke to calm down. Chantix gave me horrible nightmares, depression and generally felt like crap.

65. I was trying…my doc would not prescribe Chantix

66. Chantix almost killed me .Yet it’s still on the market after 700 deaths.

67. My doctor suggested Chantix a few years ago, but he should have known better because I’m bipolar and schizophrenic. Had I taken Chantix, it would have worked: I WOULD BE DEAD. Attempts to quit cold turkey were viciously repetitive failures. Vaping was the only thing that worked, and with immediate success. It was my miracle, my second chance at life.

68. Tried Chantix twice, gum twice, Zyban twice, patch once and cold turkey once over the course of about 15 years.

69. None of these methods worked. Patches and smoking don’t mix. I was taken off Chantix after three days; by my doctor, because of homicidal thoughts. He was freaked.

70. Zyban caused me to have a nervous breakdown and miss 6 months of work

71. Lozenges actually DID work; I did not smoke while I was using them. But my lozenge habit got more expensive than my cigarette habit! (and that’s expensive!) and even with the lozenges, I eventually went back to smoking. The Zyban worked as long as I kept taking it. But who wants to be on pills for the rest of their life? (and have to go to the doctor every month for a refill scrip?)

72. Only Zyban workt, when i stopt after 3 months i went back smoking!

73. Did successfully stop using Zyban, but started socially smoking amazing after about 3 years of non smoking. This did lead to starting smoking again after about 3-4 months of smoking only one evening a week.

74. Zyban left me like a vegetable – ready to commit suicide. My GP hasn’t prescribed the drug, after he saw what Zyban did to me and my mental health.

75. Zyban was very effective, but I became too nervous…said my wife. It holded 20 mounths without smoking.



You can see here what the FDA charts with all “approved” methods here:

Table Data: FDA Approved Drug


You can find the final analysis of the Vaping Truth Survey here.



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Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

 

ARE There Side Effects To ECIGS & VAPING? Plenty, According To Experts.

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According to some experts who are in the medical, health and research field, they are in fact, all experts.

Warnings, knowledge, time involved to do research. Speaking with other experts. Checking data. Being sure of themselves before presenting their case to the public like any professional expert would. After all, their very reputation is on the line and a very big audience is waiting to be swayed.

They’re experts about talking about ecigs. They warn, advise, completely know what it is they’re speaking of with the confidence of knowing everything there is to know, on top of their expertise in their chosen field and now, on top of all they know? They are experts on vaping…

Plenty of experts. Some actually have earned their degrees. Titles, books, shows, appearances. Fancy smanchy…  nice ties & pretty dresses…

In the news, reporters are now experts. Doctors who are on T.V. and all over the news are telling of their expertise.

Take 2.3 minutes of their busy schedule to school you on “dangers”, “news at 11”, claim what studies they heard about, they presume the information is right, and then claim there really isn’t enough research…. they need long term studies…

In your workplace, your co-workers are experts. There are a pot-load ton of experts.

My cat, in fact, has decided to become an expert.

To my confusion, and conclusion… they have no proof. There’s talk of danger, there’s talk of needing more studies. There’s talk of more time.


The side effects from vaping? Everyone has become an expert.

Here below, unedited, are the true experts with their experiences from those people who VAPE said about their “side effects” from vaping from the survey:



• Cough is gone & I don’t stink like smoke

• White gunk on my tongue is gone!

• Coughing completely gone (didn’t suffer from COPD though … yet)

• Headache, sleeping disorders, stress are gone.

• Asthma gone!!

• sleeping better, daily cough is gone, have been more active and thus lost weight

• Sinusitis is gone!

• i had cough and heart pain sometimes since i vape its gone.

• In 6 months I will be having more tests done and we shall see if there is improvement.These tests will be done as I will
not be back to work until health issues are dealt with.If my tests come back and things are better I will be demading my
Dr release all information along with all tests that I have gone through over the last 2 years

• Morning cough gone

• smokers cough is gone. Endurance is up.

• Persistant cough is gone.

• I had a persistent cough that has gone away, I can run 2 miles without stopping again, I can taste things!

• Arm pain is gone. Loss of feeling in arms is gone.

• My sense of smell is better. People no longer complain about me smelling like smoke. My smoker’s cough is gone.

• I was diagnosed with asthma after smoking for 30 years. I attempted yet again to stop smoking using all of the approved
NRT methods and again failed miserably. 6 months after my last cigarette, my doctor confirmed that my asthma is gone.
No more inhalers, and I can climb mountains again.

• Since I started vaping my periodontal disease symptoms (sore, bleeding, infected gums) are ALL gone! I know this
disease cannot be cured but now it is controlled.

• That annoying “smoker’s cough” is gone. I am no longer purging excess phlegm throughout the day.

• My bad smokers cough has all but gone, and I don’t get out of breath as quickly whe I’m much more active. My dentist says my teeth are cleaner. My doctors says my lungs are clearing up. My sense of smell and taste are off the charts. I no longer have burnt holes in my clothes, car, or bed.n exercising

• Not one bronchitis infection or bronchial asthma attack since vaping. My asthma is more under control. My cholesterol has dropped to a level my doctor is very pleased with.

• My allergies improved, the slight smoker’s cough I had is gone, and my overall health has improved noticeably. I simple
feel better.

• I breath better and the morning coughing jags are gone.

• My doctor has written in my papers ” non smoker ” . But notice : In some countries ( for example in germany ), health insurance and insurance companies listing vapers as “smokers” with all its attendant disadvantages 🙁

• I’m now listed as a nonsmoker on my medical chart and my doctor has noticed that my blood sugars (diabetic) are more even and controllable, my blood pressure is well within the normal range, and I’ve lost 15 stubborn pounds

• Doctor says my lungs are night and day cleaner than they were back in 2010. (Before I started vaping.)

• When I smoked I had heavy smokers cough, sometimes so strong that I could hardly breathe.The smoker’s cough is completely gone. Since I vapors can I smell better. A week after I smelled immediately if a smoker was near the bus, or passing me left. I started on 27 March with 11mg nicotine, now I have reduced to 3 mg nicotine.

• my doctors did asthma tests with me, my lungs increased in capacity by 30% in 11 months, my lung xrays show no signs of smoking, and my blood saturation with oxygen is 98. best i ever had.

• I don’t get bronchitis twice a year any more.

• don’t cough anymore

• My sense of taste is better and I don’t hack up brown stuff anymore. Plus the fact my clothes and car don’t stink!
• My cough disappeared, my heart no longer pounds when I excersize, I can smell and taste so much better, and I don’t
stink!

• I was hospitalized for double pneumonia and doctor said he saw no detrimental effect to vaping and that perhaps the moisture would in fact be good for breaking up my lungs. And some insurance companies are now considering vaping to not he considered as a smoker which lowers insurance premiums

• Cardiac and family doctors both say I’m better.

• Both medical doctor & DDS are thrilled I’m vaping.

• doctor just said : “Good !” with a big smile.

• 3 doctors are thrilled and have me down as a former smoker.

• After 27 years as a smoker you notice things like easier breathing it’s a marked difference. I also suffer with Crohns disease and have noticed a marked improvement with that too which my doctor tells me is linked to my stopping smoking.

• Also: My teethridge is much better and problems with sweaty feet are gone.

• So far so good and my doctor agrees.

• – smoker’s cough stopped after two weeks of vaping
skin looks healthier
stamina is way up without more exercise
had difficulty walking long distances, they are gone
COPD has vanished from the list of chronic diseases my doctor is treating me for
taste is back
sense of smell is back
can lie down without my nose clogging up instantly



Are these claims to be dismissed as anecdotal?  Those people above and their experiences don’t COUNT? Doesn’t what they SAY make a difference?

Is there a bet on who can be the best at misinformation between public health, the medical field, journalists, tobacco control (of ALL people) and others jumping on the bandwagon?

The claims above are JUST as admissible as evidence. No one in their reports show this, and turn their backs on it. “Need more time” and “not enough studies to confirm” at the end of their reports….is becoming unacceptable.

In order to do research, shouldn’t you do the questioning of those with the actual experience in real numbers?



Here’s some fun for you… some of what lengths IDIOTIC “professionals” will go to:

Some are Doctors, Nutritionists, Dentists, even here, specifically, Roger Bezanis with NO title or Dr. after his name –  no formal education to my knowledge, now claims to be an expert and has joined in on how much he knows about ecigs:

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Seems silly, doesn’t it? Roger, you’re making a fool of yourself.

You showed much worse, including the misleading photos on your twitter feed.

You can see his feed yourself: (Rogers Twitter Feed) and like above, made irresponsible claims you know nothing about.

(He blocks you like ALL those who don’t want to see truth or valid studies.)

You didn’t even show any research, you just started spouting off like a madman…  and there’s something wrong with you.

You’ve hit yourself in the head with too many frying pans.

Like others, you cannot speak responsibly, so please find a medication that works for you.

If you’d like to discuss any questions with him or his findings, he’s on twitter: @RogerBezanis



The two things I say are this.

First, ecigs need more studies and they’re coming. We need studies that are truthful, and not misconstrued by idiots or professionals wanting their 3.4 minutes on national TV. You’re potentially costing lives with your slick knowledge of nothing.

Second. More time. ABSOLUTELY. Time to know possible long term effects.Tick. Tock.

Every day goes by, no ill effects. I am not afraid.

Don’t you think people who vape WANT any truthful bad info? You’re damn right we do! Until then, we’re vaping. It is safe.

Would you rather have us smoke? If you would, PLEASE tell me I may as well smoke… I always look forward to that.

Here’s the thing, if they’ve been around over 10 years, wouldn’t you think by now we’d all be growing mold or a 2nd nose out of our ears if they were detrimental?

Ecigs and vaping is not smoking and is CONSIDERABLY LESS harmful than smoking cigarettes.



Act like professionals. Focus on that. Be responsible with your titles. Stop being afraid of what your colleagues think.

Stand up and speak out.

Make a difference. You may just save someones life.



 If you are a true professional, and want to help the world, please join this organization called M.O.V.E. if you already agree, or find out what those professionals have to say.

If you do that, and you don’t agree its SAFE in comparison to smoking, then denounce your membership, and continue on your crusade, but you need to have research in your hand that you can point to, proving the same or more danger exists because I’ll be watching for every report.

This has long been an age of open information. It seems plain old normal people with no degree can find truth quicker than people with earned degrees and status…the studies and lies come out, and SOMEONE will see the truth behind the lies it may tell…

You see, I’m just a guy who has a day job. No degree, no title… but vapers ARE Nurses, Scientists, Doctors, Dentists… health and former health professionals… and they know the benefits as compared to smoking… and they’re in groups, forums, twitter, facebook…..

Amazingly, if you’ve been under a rock, there is a ton of research:

Click here for a ton of research

There are outstanding informational PDF’s such as this one below with a TON of impeccable and indisputable information by Medical Professional Kellie Forbes BScN RN, found here:

Vaping-the-truth-USA

Print that out, take it to your Doctor.

Make them give you five minutes to discuss that.

If they can’t see the worth in it, switch Doctors. You may just save your own life.



Here’s another one to take very seriously once you learn who Mr. Bates is and his background:

from Clive Bates:
Briefing on the science and policy of e-cigarettes and vaping:

http://www.clivebates.com/documents/vapebriefing.pdf


If you smoke, smoke. I did forever and cannot judge.

If you do both, awesome. If you’ve found vaping is better?

Great.

If you’re undecided, PLEASE know there’s a choice, and they’re trying to take that away and already have in some parts of “civilized worlds”……



We’re so serious about vaping, we’re creating our own surveys. We’re not waiting for experts.



A GREAT  Nicotine & Flavor survey was just completed by @vapedupgaming. His results are powerful and here:

Nicotine/Flavor Survey Results



Final Analysis from my Vaping Truth Survey

I started out on this to change the world, turns out the world is changing me.

Keep On #Vaping On.

Kevin

Nicotine Reduction Therapy, What’s really safe? The Truth & Perspective on the Gum, Patch & Drugs Over E-Cigs.

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Nicotine Reduction Therapy, A new perspective for the health community. Some, as seen below, cannot use certain methods. Just because they are approved, doesn’t mean there aren’t issues with the end user. It doesn’t mean they are safe.


These people went to these methods, these lengths as a way to stop smoking and these are their words for “approved” methods and voice some extremely valid reasons they did not work. These comments show without doubt or need of “science” that there IS a better and more effective alternative, vaping.

( Comments from around the world, unedited, from the Vaping Truth Survey)


The patch caused skin irritation and nughtmares. The gum caused digestive issues. Cold turkey worked for a short time because I was pregnant. And Chantix caused horrible nausea and nightmares.

• Chantix was awful. It messed with how I felt and caused anxiety. Gum def didn’t work. Patch burned my skin, gave me super weird dreams. Vaping, has had no negative side effects.

• I didn’t try acupuncture but I did try auriculotherapy. Zyban worked the best, but after 18 months quit I started again and was up to a pack-a-day again within three days… as if I’d never quit! None of the other methods I tried worked for more than a few days at most. You have to want to quit SO badly and have some serious willpower and motivation… otherwise, nothing will be effective. Vaping replaces not only the nicotine, but the hand-to-mouth action. That was critical to my success.

• Nothing satisfied me like vaping does. Vaping satisfies all the urges. My doctor did not recommend me quitting smoking as I was going through a lot and he felt it would push me over the edge
• Chantix made me irritable and mean. Cold turkey I didn’t have enough self control for. The lozenges and gum did not help with the hand to mouth feel of smoking so it wasn’t good enough either.

• Chantix (prescription) made me an absolute nut, patch and inhaler didn’t work for more than a month (I would go right back to it), and cold turkey didn’t work at all.

• 1 week was the longest I could quit with existing legacy methods, they just don’t work. Quitting by using a vape device was much easier by comparison.

• nothing worked for me. i believe this is down to the fact that with patches, for example, they give you a 24hr hit of nicotine, and when you remove them you still crave the nicotine, so go slowly back to gaining your hit, be that via smoking or another method.

• As soon as you stop taking the drugs, you want a smoke, the gum tastes horrible and doesn’t work worth a darn, and cold turkey is really hard without support. Using an ecig replaced the action of puffing on a smoke so the psychological affect of puffing on an ecig completely calms the users cravings without the nasty chemicals and tar
• I wouldn’t touch Champix or Zyban as many suicides have been attributed to them.

• Neither medications like Chantix or patches/gums worked in my case. The withdrawal syndrome was too strong or they had some unexpected secondary effects.

• You name it I’ve probably tried it. (The Dr’s wouldn’t let me try the drugs because of the medications I have to take already.) Nothing worked, that monkey was always on my back saying “I want a real cigarette”. Vaping has given me a freedom I never thought was possible. The monkey is dead and I am truly free.
• Vaping is not a smoking-cessation method for me. I tried it and immediately realised this was BETTER than smoking – without the health risks and the guilt. I enjoy my nicotine as I enjoy my alcohol and caffeine. I have no intention of giving up vaping any more than I intend to give up beer or coffee.

• That last resort was Chantix and Zyban. It caused me to hallucinate. I gave the packets back to my doctor. As with patches, no effect except dizziness, rash on my skin, and I could even have one patch on each arm and smoke at the same time. I tired the Allan Carr method, his book is a con inmy opinion, it should be banned !
• Patches – gave me nightmares, Inhaler – tasted AWFUL, Zyban – I had this twice, both times it worked for about 4 months and then I returned to smoking, Champix – also had this twice, made me feel very sick both times, didn’t finish either course due to making me feel so unwell. Could Turkey – managed about 6 hours. Acupuncture – price prohibitive and didn’t work at all

• I was in the car. still in the hypnotist’s parking lot. decided to test out how much I DIDN’T want a cigarette and how yucky it would taste. Lit it up and had no difference. Wasted $30 and smoked all the way home!

• My last attempt before rediscovering vaping was another trial with chantix along side of recovering from larengeal surgery because of a cancer scare. I lasted about one month. I would sa I have been desperate to quit for the last 15 years, but none of those options made it possible for me until I picked up my e-cig.

• After one week on chantix I got depressed and was told by the doctor to stop using it as people have committed suicide on it. Other nrt either tasted horrible or made me itch or hurt my throat. After having acupuncture I left the building and had a fag. Self help books didnt teach me anything i didn’t already know. telling smokers that they will die won’t help anybody.

• I can’t try the prescriptions as I have a history of depression. Nothing else touched the cravings. Vaping the right nic strength totally kills the cravings. I actually prefer vaping over smoking because of the taste and smell and it works! No wicked witch from the west! 🙂

• Champix (as its called in Canada) made me terribly ill. I did quit smoking for the 5 weeks I was on Champix but because I felt so sick, I realized that this wasn’t the way to quit. I started smoking again and felt better. Pharmaceuticals are not the answer for smoking cessation.

• I nursed my mother through lung cancer until her death in 2000, then 5 years later went through it all again with my sister. Both were long term heavy smokers like me, so I had every incentive to quit. Believe me I tried – countless times using every known aid. Nothing worked for very long so I made my peace with it and quit quitting. Then I was introduced to vaping and decided to try it for one week to see if it might help me to cut down. I never smoked again. I quit without even trying.



If you’re a health professional and are in any doubt there isn’t enough “research” about vaping, please refer to this website: E-cigarette Research, Studies & Papers

Once you’ve done that, or already understand “vaping” is substantially safer than smoking: PLEASE join M.O.V.E. 


Here is where I am going to turn the tables a bit on misinformation. Here is where I call one of you alleged professionals OUT.

Schoolyard bullying if you want to call it that, but you have media at your disposal, I simply have a blog. Call it what you will.

Some medical experts are told to tell patients to “use these approved methods” by SPONSORS. Perks, bonuses. Prestige. Looking good on television is not saving lives. If you are one of those “experts”, and this stings, then you need to re-evaluate your profession and seek help, knowledge and further educate yourself.

You assume it’s important work you’re doing spreading misinformation about e-cigarettes, and it’s quite disturbing knowing you’re too arrogant or ignorant by claiming you “don’t know enough” and there’s “not enough information”.

If you are a medical professional. do some reading here about e-cigarettes. If I can find it with a full time job, and NO degree, you can certainly access and inform with your vast knowledge and education, right? You’ve got the big degree. Figure it out.


Here is an example of “not sure”.

Dr Kevin R. Campbell, MD, FACC

“Discussing the dangers of e-cigarettes with @WNCNMikeg on @WNCN this morning”.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=936687416343234


He says he is discussing dangers and states in part:

“some type of fluid” (Um, don’t you KNOW? Your discussing the DANGERS of E-cigs, Doctor? You don’t sound qualified to discuss them very well, now do you?)

“nicotine…terribly addictive” Wrong

Referring to Dr. Jeff Crane, he’s “unsure” but both of you could go here for plenty of information about e-cigarettes.

As for gateways / children?

In the end, this specific “doctor” after proper adult engagement and “needing to know more”, blocked quite a few people both on twitter & facebook because we were pointing out the discrepancies in his “expertise”, like adults.



For some reason, this next link goes to the middle of the twitter line, so you may need to scroll up to see his first tweet:

This is just a part of the timeline here.

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I don’t care what your position is, I don’t care what your title claims you to be, if you are in the public eye you should be ashamed of yourself for pretending to know “dangers” and then saying you “don’t know enough” of the very topic you describe as dangerous. Dr. Campbell, by the way, I saw your misinformation about Chantix where you claim it’s VERY EFFECTIVE as well…would you recommend that crap to your family?

Stop the lies, vaping saves lives. Nice tie, and hope your book sells hundreds.


All comments are from the Vaping Truth Survey (Final Analysis)


If you have PROOF, and it has been properly performed and properly reviewed, I and every person vaping will listen to every word.

Here, just in case you want to redeem yourself, I have your “Plausible Deniability” section ready.

Keep On #Vaping On.

Kevin

E-Cigs & Vaping Dangers, Health Issues Determined

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There was no “science” in the Vaping Truth Survey,  there were answers about health benefits users experienced. These answers are what one person would tell another, or to their health provider. In this instance, they told it to the Vaping Truth Survey.

Symptoms, health issues, resolutions. Very powerful. No one died.

Question number 7 was posed to over 7,238 people. ALL had a chance to answer. These are 100 voices who chose to speak about their health benefits, the top include fifty who had negative experiences with vaping, the bottom were positive.


You may be as surprised as I am to see what they describe in both.

I said at the beginning of the survey, you have a voice…. now they ALL have a voice.

Health benefits you’ve noticed since vaping?

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Health benefits you’ve noticed since vaping? ( 1% chose this response )

The following chose to answer “I have had health issues I believe are from vaping (Please comment)”

Discovered a PG allergy when started vaping
Saturday, Jan 24th 8:18AM


Pg….gives me cramps in my legs. I switched to 100% vg..solved it. Nothing big.
Friday, Jan 23rd 8:56PM


excess of mucus(especially irritable when vaping)
Friday, Jan 23rd 12:08AM


No unusual side effects since I started vaping.
Thursday, Jan 22nd 9:40PM


I seem to get sore throats a little more often
Wednesday, Jan 21st 2:15AM


I feel like my teeth are more sensitive.
Wednesday, Jan 21st 12:31AM


I do not have the “smokers” cough anymore, I sleep better and do not wake up coughing, my taste buds and sense of smell are so much better. I haven’t had bronchitis since I stopped smoking and I was getting it every year at least once. So many things have improved. I have not had to go to the doctor since I started vaping but have an appointment next month for a check up to renew prescriptions or see if I can give them up too.
Tuesday, Jan 20th 10:14PM


being new, or simply making a mistake on what juice to buy – using a higher MG nicotine content, you have a chance of “over doing” your nicotine theropy, and get a slight overdose. this has happened to me multiple times, and can cause you to black out randomly – causing physical damage to your body whatever you fall on(bump your head or anything of the like).

also, vaping dehydrates the body at a faster pace then usual. i HAVE blackedout due to dehydration multiple time since switching to ecigarettes – its not the ecigs fault, its mine for not staying hydrated, but i can see this as a possible issue also for some people
Tuesday, Jan 20th 1:23PM


I’ve noticed occasional upper chest pain after vaping, but I can’t be positive that they’re related.
Monday, Jan 19th 12:37PM


problems with sleeping
Monday, Jan 19th 10:47AM


Glycol allergy. I need to use 100% VG liquids only with low flavours amount.
Sunday, Jan 18th 9:17AM


I had become incontinent due to smoking and within a few days my cough had disappeared. My anxiety levels also dramatically dropped.
I no longer stink like an ashtray and can now go for walks which I was unable to before.
Saturday, Jan 17th 6:24AM


My psoriasis might be getting worse due to dehydration from excessive vaping. Also dry eye and mouth
Sunday, Jan 11th 6:58AM


Tinnitus caused by vaping
Friday, Jan 9th 5:37AM


I have been searching sites looking for symptoms that may happen when starting vaping but I believe it would be simple fixes with some information 🙂 I will not go back to smoking !!
Wednesday, Jan 7th 11:26PM

 

I have a very weak body constitution plus being asthmatic, my health has gotten worse since smoking but the switchover to vaping has made me cope with my life better as a weak person; I can breath with clarity, i can taste things better, I don’t get sick often and I don’t smell awful.
Wednesday, Jan 7th 1:22PM


the only drawback are breakouts of acne, and they are symptoms closely related to vaping VG and PG
Wednesday, Jan 7th 6:00AM


less chronic cough during winter
Tuesday, Jan 6th 6:10AM


My weight has increased donce I quit smoking and started using an e-cigarette…which was an annoying but acceptable downside.
Sunday, Jan 4th 4:38AM


Stomach problems doctor said vaping causes it. Acid.
Sunday, Jan 4th 1:19AM


Fortunately I didn’t experience health problems from smoking, so there was no change after switching to vaping. I have had bronchitis twice since vaping though, and had never had it before when smoking. I also have frequent problems with throat and bronchial irritation, dryness and soreness from vaping.
Friday, Jan 2nd 11:10PM


generallly felt better
Friday, Jan 2nd 10:15PM


Right at the start i did have some bleeding gums sore throut and coughing up all kinds of bad stuff, but i had similar problems in other quit efforts
Friday, Jan 2nd 7:31PM


i have a slight intolerance to PG, but if i smke a 70/30 VG/PG i am ok
Friday, Jan 2nd 6:32PM


Heavy vaping can be dehydrating & can upset gums or throat, even get on your chest a little but those things are more common with cheap mystery e-liquids. By contrast, good quality e-liquids from trusted vendors where we can trace the ingredients are far friendlier. The symptoms are minor compared with those from smoking.
You should learn about what is in e-liquid & how to select different ratios of pg & vg.
Friday, Jan 2nd 5:48PM

 


I feel much fitter in every aspect. Only side effect I’ve noticed is a dry mouth in the mornings.
Tuesday, Dec 30th 6:41PM


I get occasional tickling in the back of my throat when I don’t drink enough liquids whilst vaping. Nothing compared to my laboured breathing and morning coughs when smoking though!
Monday, Dec 29th 8:18AM


Before i started with vaping i had lung capicity ad 70% and now its all right
Sunday, Dec 28th 4:38PM


I often had flues with hard coughing in the past. Now I am less ill, and if I get a flu, it’s without cough!
Sunday, Dec 28th 1:53PM


The only health issue i have from vaping is sore/bleeding sinus’s..I believe this is caused from to much pg in the eliquid.I now mix my own eliquid which is helping clear them up..
Sunday, Dec 28th 9:57AM


zits
Sunday, Dec 28th 7:59AM


Have noticed more wheezing at night if I have been vaping hard on higher PG juice. But most changes have been beneficial.
Saturday, Dec 27th 1:49PM


From the third month of vaping, I acquired a rash, and it has continued to spread.
Saturday, Dec 27th 4:41AM


Lung capacity is lower. May be because I vape more often than I smoked because I enjoy it more.
Friday, Dec 26th 11:48PM


still have a lot of flem throughout the day and in the morning especially.
Friday, Dec 26th 9:11PM


Bad lung at one point
Lost taste for weeks at a time
Friday, Dec 26th 8:31PM


I can also smell and taste now
Friday, Dec 26th 8:06PM


Felt the lack of oxygen in my blood, muscles and veins, after starting vaping I feel like before I was a non smoker
Friday, Dec 26th 4:46PM


old health issues included an increased heart rate durring mild excersize, regular issues with heartburn.

Both stopped once I was fully vaping and not smoking at all.
Friday, Dec 26th 12:59PM


I found I personally seem to have a certain sensitivity to high PG concentrated juices. Perhaps the dehydration factor that comes with that as I was beginning to get strange muscle cramping after I started vaping regularly. However, I found that the cramping episodes completely disappeared by switching over to MAX VG-based juices. Problem solved!
Friday, Dec 26th 11:48AM


High blood pressure
Migraines
Temple pressure
Friday, Dec 26th 5:21AM


I feel much better !
Friday, Dec 26th 3:07AM


I get dry lips and mouth from vaping. That’s about it tho!
Thursday, Dec 25th 3:34PM


headaches, bad mood in morning
Wednesday, Dec 24th 7:09PM


I suffer from chest pain all day. I have never had that before and I’ve been checked at the doc I’m not sick so I am worried
Wednesday, Dec 24th 4:52AM


I got bad stomach, trouble With breath and chest after a while With one UK brand. After i switched to Dekang it all good. I strongly feel ejuices needs cotrolling, analyzes and regulations.
Tuesday, Dec 23rd 2:40AM


Found out I have a PG allergy, have to stay above 80%vg
Monday, Dec 22nd 8:47PM


It’s nice being able to run up a hill. Went for years without experiencing it. (And everything else that might wind you. 😉 )
Monday, Dec 22nd 6:13PM


Canker sores and feeling like i have the flu
Monday, Dec 22nd 4:21PM


The junk that came out of my lungs!!! People are telling me I look healthier than when I was a smoker. I’ll chock that up to my cells getting more oxygen
Monday, Dec 22nd 3:42PM

 


Seems most of those above — really aren’t issues are they?

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Lets get to the same question, 50 answers choosing the response  “I am listed as non-smoker on my medical chart” that chose to leave comments:


Doctor is IMPRESSED with how much better my lungs are, I can exercise and walk up steps without being out of breath… amazing changes
Friday, Jan 16th 4:55PM


No more issues with high blood pressure. Physical activity is easier.
Thursday, Jan 15th 9:13PM


The proof is in my records I went from having a ridiculously high blood pressure to avg 112/72. My lung capacity is much greater I don’t get winded just by climbing a flight of stairs.
Thursday, Jan 15th 8:47PM


Please add: improved senses of smell and taste…decreased cough, sob.
Thursday, Jan 15th 8:52PM


I’m much healthier
Thursday, Jan 15th 11:53AM


The difference is night and day. Simple as.
Tuesday, Jan 13th 12:44AM


Suffered COPD since 2012 and needed to find a way to alleviate my position – had tried patches and gum but had not succeeded
Monday, Jan 12th 4:56AM


Because it is the truth!
Sunday, Jan 11th 2:24PM


I can smell things better and I don’t smell of tobacco, my house is fresh, my bank account is healthier, I can taste foods and flavours better, no stinking ashtrays, skin is better, teeth are whiter, I can run better and further and my recovery time is much quicker.
Saturday, Jan 10th 10:32AM


Just feel so much healthier not smoking
Saturday, Jan 10th 8:42AM


no personal health concerns from vaping.
Friday, Jan 9th 10:48PM


I needed Albuterol since 2009 up until Oct 2013 when I started vaping. No longer use or need albuterol or any prescriptions regarding pulmonary function…I can now run stairs!
Friday, Jan 9th 10:21PM


My Heath is bad from smoking but it has become better since I quit
Friday, Jan 9th 10:06PM


I have not used my emergency inhaler in over a year
Thursday, Jan 8th 5:24PM


I have clear lungs now and my cat scans are clear. If I didn’t discover vaping I probably would be dead now.
Thursday, Jan 8th 2:28PM


the only drawback are breakouts of acne, and they are symptoms closely related to vaping VG and PG
Wednesday, Jan 7th 6:00AM


couldn’t finish a sentence without taking a breath. 1 week after starting to vape i can breathe again!
Tuesday, Jan 6th 10:20PM


All of the above !! In MY favor!! Yes yes yes!
Tuesday, Jan 6th 7:46PM


My asthma has improved.
Tuesday, Jan 6th 2:12PM


I feel 100% better in SO many ways!
Tuesday, Jan 6th 12:19PM


less chronic cough during winter
Tuesday, Jan 6th 6:10AM


I am asthmatic since baby, thanks to vapotage I no longer suffer to the problem.
Tuesday, Jan 6th 6:11AM

Additional benefits: far fewer colds and other passing infections since changing to vaping. NO coughing or chest infections at all.
Monday, Jan 5th 7:34PM


I cut my 5K run time by 8 minutes.
Monday, Jan 5th 4:28PM


Sense of taste & smell back to normal after 45 years. No cruddy lungs. Hardly ever suffer from colds now. House & car smells like a sweet shop.
Monday, Jan 5th 2:35PM


I coughed myself to a bloody mess while smoking. Research showed; cancer, no. copd, yes. I was already coughing for a long time a lot.
I never cough now and I can breathe better. I am also not so depressed.
Monday, Jan 5th 10:50AM


Sanity, yes the present anti smoking tactics are driving people mad!
Saturday, Jan 3rd 9:40AM


No more BP meds or cholesterol meds required now. Only thing which is slow to recover and continues to be a bit of an issue is poor circulation.
Saturday, Jan 3rd 1:45AM


I still have some breathing issues but I have gained quite a bit of weight. Not because of vamping but due to an injury that immobilised me for some time.
Saturday, Jan 3rd 12:25AM


There is no longer the nasty smoke smell and smokers breath that comes with using cigarettes.
Saturday, Jan 3rd 12:03AM


I do feel better in myself.
Friday, Jan 2nd 11:56PM


Fortunately I didn’t experience health problems from smoking, so there was no change after switching to vaping. I have had bronchitis twice since vaping though, and had never had it before when smoking. I also have frequent problems with throat and bronchial irritation, dryness and soreness from vaping.
Friday, Jan 2nd 11:10PM


Right at the start i did have some bleeding gums sore throut and coughing up all kinds of bad stuff, but i had similar problems in other quit efforts
Friday, Jan 2nd 7:31PM


BECAUSE ITS TRUE
Friday, Jan 2nd 7:06AM


Cardiac and family doctors both say I’m better.
Wednesday, Dec 31st 10:28AM


No wheezing, no extreme wheezing when lying down, lung test I tested way better than my age! No more blood pressure meds since down to zero nic.
Wednesday, Dec 31st 9:09AM



Cholesterol dropped from 430 to 280 (w/o medication), stamina greatly increased, lost all indications of perio (previously treated for 10 years), total loss of angina events
Wednesday, Dec 31st 6:42AM


I can run up stairs again. I don’t get winded dragging my trashcans down my 500-foot long driveway, and I’m back into mountain biking.

My cigarette habit affected my health in such a way that I had to sell my old mountain bike.
Wednesday, Dec 31st 1:11AM


3 doctors are thrilled and have me down as a former smoker.
Tuesday, Dec 30th 11:57PM


MY LUNG’S SOUND CLEAR AND MY PULSE AND BLOOD PRESSURE ARE BELOW NORMAL NOW. I WORK OUT AND I HAVE A PULSE OF 60 NOW INSTEAD OF 88 AND MY BP IS 102-64 WHICH IS EXCELLANT.
Tuesday, Dec 30th 8:39PM


I feel 100% more healthy since I quit smoking
Tuesday, Dec 30th 6:57PM


I didn’t smoke long enough to have any medically diagnosed issues, but I have noticed a significant drop in pain from deep breathing, and soooooooo much less coughing.
Tuesday, Dec 30th 9:13AM


only one cough/cold in over 2 years
Monday, Dec 29th 6:25PM

 


Used to fail lung function tests as a smoker – had to do lung function tests at work in the factory I worked in they were done 3 monthly – failed every one of them, when I had been vaping 11 months I had a lung function test at my local hospital – I passed – and the nurse advised that my lung capacity at that time was only 2% less than a non smoker – I would be interested in having another one in a years time to see what level my lungs are then
Monday, Dec 29th 3:10PM


You forgot the one that says: No more bad breath.
Also in 2014 I saved 60.300 NOK by not buying cigarettes.
Monday, Dec 29th 12:49PM


Better breathing, better smelling ability, better overall feeling.
Monday, Dec 29th 8:59AM


I get occasional tickling in the back of my throat when I don’t drink enough liquids whilst vaping. Nothing compared to my laboured breathing and morning coughs when smoking though!
Monday, Dec 29th 8:18AM


complexion improved and not had one cold or flu bug since vaping…due to the PG i assume…being an fda approved air sanitiser
Monday, Dec 29th 6:11AM


I do have problems with flavours, so I use them only in very low concentrations <1%.
Monday, Dec 29th 6:17AM


So there you have it. Not one of these respondents said they died. Imagine that.

Science? No. Would any doctor get the same answer? Yes.

That’s my point. If you’re a health professional and understand vaping is substantially better than smoking,

 

 

PLEASE join M.O.V.E. 

If you are a health professional, tobacco control or the like and want to continue to dismiss this evidence without proper evidence of your own, without regard to the fact that vaping is not smoking, and continuing to misguide the public….

Please do, and I’ll keep calling you out-



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Dear Smokers: The Vaping Truth.


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Clear the decks.

Read this first:

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Then you can read this

I am talking to current smokers on this blog.

I do NOT want you to take my survey unless you vape, have vaped, or did vape and it didn’t work.

That is so I can collect the best information for people I’m talking to right now…

“on the fence, misinformed or unsure”.

(Links for two surveys are at the bottom for survey takers!)

I am, by virtue of some unbelievably awesome people via the web, on Twitter & Facebook, or however you got linked this blog, able to share some thoughts for you from them and I on vaping.

Heard of it? We DO it.


Smokers, vapers WANT you to know a few things.

This one is dedicated to you.

The smoker thinking about it.

I’m not here to ridicule you.

Smoke if you like, do it while you read this!


Some info first.

The following are entities that want you to keep smoking.

Tobacco companies. They like your money, not you.

Health Insurance Companies. They like you paying your premiums – in fear – not you.

Tobacco Control. They like money, not you.

Pharmaceutical companies. They like your money and your continued struggling, not you.

Hospitals & Doctors / Public Health, for the most part. They like your money, not you.

(There are a few stepping up about vaping now, but VERY few).

Media. They LOVE dirt and misconstruing truth for all of the above and money from advertising,  not you.

They’ll tell you what they’re TOLD to tell you.

Finally, your government. They like your taxes you pay, not you.

They also like to control.

These entities don’t CARE about you, or they’d tell you the truth.


Vapers for the most part, are ex – smokers. They were just like you.


Now, below are three charts I consider powerful and disruptive to your thought. You see, I smoked over 30 years.

I found vaping on my own – after years of struggle on quitting, I used cold turkey, the nicorette gum & patch.

Ineffective and honestly obsolete. It didn’t work. To keep this brief, I created a survey, I asked and have so far received almost 6,000 responses (looking for more) to these questions below and along this blog, and are wanting more answers from vapers to help YOU. They’ve come with bells on. Heels a-clickin’ and a voice almost 6,000 strong. I assume you’ll take this a bit more seriously once you see it.


If you noticed, the list above didn’t include vapers.

Vapers for the most part, want you to be aware of this choice we call vaping.

Follow the question, look at the responses. Some call this bias & anecdotal. Well, yep. It is.

Look further down the blog for an awesome explanation for that. It’s the truth either way.

No spin, no made up fairy tales, no mud or silliness. NO we don’t ALL say its perfectly safe. I’d bet 99% of us believe it is, and just pretend it’s all.

Not one of my twitter friends have died, and I ask them periodically!

It’s all fun at first but now we get to facts about what VAPERS SAY.

We don’t care if you smoke (mostly), but we care and want the truth OUT about vaping so you are properly informed.

TOO many lies are out there, we’re taking control of that with this and other means.

You already smoke, it is NOT smoking. It’s NOT.

Are you intrigued?

Read On.

The question / answers are powerful, quick & self explanatory.

In less than a month so far.

Here are my key points for smokers to SEE and understand what vapers say:


What methods did you try, that didn’t work to stop smoking before you STOPPED with vaping?

Clicking on the graph will enlarge it for you.

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Sound like you? I may have missed a couple other methods like beating yourself over the head, guilt, family intervention and outright ridicule, but I covered the big ones.

Next, How long did it take by vaping before you STOPPED smoking?

Clicking on the graph will enlarge it for you.

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More than 75 % STOPPED SMOKING  within a month. 42 % were within a DAY.
I was less than 48 hours. Trial & error on the others for the month is my assumption of that number is assumed, but they STOPPED SMOKING.

It is NOTED here that of almost 6,000 so far, that 101 said it didn’t work, so there’s that for you to see as well.

Powerful information yet? Is your nose closer to the screen?

I certainly hope so, that’s every single survey takers intention.

To INFORM you of what we’ve experienced about vaping.


Finally, to get your attention, I, in 14 questions chose the third for you, a smoker to take a gander at

It wasn’t really a question, more of a statement from vapers.

Health benefits you’ve noticed since vaping.

Click on it, bring it closer to your face.

dearsmoker2What are you thinking now?

I hope you’re making considerations. This blog is full of stats. I’m just trying to inform you better than the media pretends to, the lies tobacco control spreads, than the drug companies will pretend how they’ll “help” you, and almost everyone on the list that “likes” you will twist truth into “anti-freeze”, phermaldehyde, and gateways for children.

Those are tactics to keep you on their wheel.

Get off the wheel.

Read all you want below, make your now better informed decision.

If you decide to vape  – give it a few days, learn, ask questions, try it. It’s not smoking. A little trial & error and you’ll be on your way. It’s three things. Taste, nicotine strength & backups. You’ll be OFF the smoking wheel.


There IS a medical community well on board here with: M.O.V.E

Here you will see this extensive and powerful research done by Kellie Forbes (BScN RN, a member of M.O.V.E.) to help you and others to find a way to the truth here in PDF form: Vaping-the-truth-USA

or her interview with the M.O.V.E. organization here:

INTERVIEW WITH KELLIE FORBES

I thank you for your time. I hope we’ve helped you make a MUCH better informed decision.

 

I’m on Twitter if you like:
https://twitter.com/Vapingit

And The Facebook Vaping Truth Survey Group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/VapingSurvey

Share this information with smokers.

Keep ON #Vaping ON!

Kevin