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Senator Todd Kaminsky claims: “Vaping nearly doubled”.

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Senator Todd Kaminsky, (D) NY Senate District 9 has concluded a “discussion” last night, proudly and ambiguously stating he

“… held an expert panel to discuss the dangers of this newfound trend” claiming “Vaping has nearly doubled since 2014“.

“DANGER IN DISGUISE” is on the banner in front of the “expert” panel.

With obvious facts in hand, there wouldn’t be presumptuous assertions or a need to corrupt the crowd (of eager parents) with preconceived or contrived notions from an expert panel.


If it has “doubled”, good. Less smoking among teens, what’s the problem?

If it has, please, show your work to the class, Senator.


I’ll assume since Senator Kaminsky is “a leader on ethics reform & corruption” (referred to here), there would be no need for me to assume there could be broad manipulation or ommission of facts in this discussion.

No, I assume credibility & fact-checking was of the highest priority before the discussion began.



Now, different than the normal rhetoric, he didn’t say it doubled with the normally ever-present words like “youth”, “children” or “kids” in his post(s), instead, for the sake of my own sanity, “Think of the children™”, I’ll describe it as implied.



Assumptions

My assumption is he and the expert panel “are” referring to “children”… if anyone has video or a transcript to the “discussion” or data used, please comment below.


For those that care, keep up and are watching:

What I still can find is still the latest from the National Institute on Drug Abuse” via the “Monitoring the Future (MTF) survey” from 2016 found here:

For a second year in a row, the MTF survey asked high school students about their use of electronic cigarettes (e-cigarettes).

Significant decreases in use from last year were reported by:

8th (6.2 vs. 9.5 percent)

10th (10.3 vs. 14.0 percent)

12th graders (12.4 vs. 16.2 percent).







I can only assume this will lead to another attempt to promote what is “Tobacco 21” or youth smoking covered here and here and here and here.

What I cannot find is “vaping nearly doubled”. If anyone has it, please link it in the comments below so I can publicly

  • Apologize publicly and directly to Senator Kaminsky
  • Correct the numbers so I can pretend I’m an expert!

I’ve said this before.

I’ll repeat it: “If “children” are *already smoking, they’re *smokers regardless of age. Think of the children™.”

I predict, as others have, rates among “kids” will go up in the next few years. I’m not against that.

“When tobacco use decreases, less smoking occurs.”

What I do know is “nicotine” is now wrongly classified as “tobacco”.

What I also know, Senator, is New York has top billing with the long-standing Master Settlement Agreement Ponzi scheme.


Ask the expert!

I encourage you to voice your questions or concerns on these matters on his public Twitter and Facebook accounts.


“T21 has potential to increase use rates through psychological reactance, and out of protest once the targeted demographic realizes their right to choose has been removed.”

“They” want tobacco to be restricted to adults, they want to restrict adults from tobacco, and e-cigarettes.

Could Tobacco 21 increase smoking rates?




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There is definitely more to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin


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E-Cigs & Vaping. Fighting For Livelihood, Fighting For Lives. Here’s a phone number.

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Some are fighting for their livelihood; some are fighting for lives.

 David Goerlitz would like a phone call or an email and is offering HELP.

Here’s his email and phone number.

He stated the phone line is open:

609-234-0220.

He’s also available at his email:

kgkjkl@yahoo.com…..

He’s not joking and neither am I…


Don’t know who Mr. Goerlitz is? I didn’t either till around December. I’ll get back to that.


W.H.O. , Governments. Politicians. Health Care. Health Organizations like the American Lung / Heart Associations. Anti-Tobacco. Tobacco. Pharmaceutical Companies. Doctors. Nurses. Pharmacies.

Big Corporations carrying those products that are to keep you well like drug stores and supermarkets. They’re doing the best they can fighting as well.


They have to keep money coming in, or they’ll lose a foothold. At what cost? I believe its at the very least the cost of lives. Those products had research/development. Lots of cash.


Those companies and conglomerates have investors. Investors want profit. It’s been said in this blog – Greg Conley of the AVA said vaping/ecigs are a disruptive technology.

I said in a previous blog somewhere It is again, disrupting alright. It’s disrupting cash flow from all of the above.


Those are people we vapers call antz. Those people are fighting for their livelihood. Grants. MSA funding. Tax dollars. Poorly portrayed reports in media. Misconstruing data. Pretending. Santa Claus. But its working. They’ve taken over. They’ve convinced the masses their way in ANY WAY & form that they can. We KNOW what they’re doing… what are WE doing???

For you who DO make noise, awesome. Someone heard you, I know I’ve heard quite a few. I’m SURE you know who are. We’ve probably crossed paths on Facebook or Twitter by now. You know where I stand…

For you who haven’t made any noise …. either stay quiet, become loud, or don’t WHINE and shrug your shoulders when regulation becomes control, taxation and possible bans………………..Yes I said bans. If you’re a reviewer, say something on your video about advocacy to your viewers. Maybe they don’t know. Put a clip of it up. Draw 30 seconds of attention to it. If you’re a vendor, you’ve got NO excuse not to be screaming….maybe not monetary, but you should be telling your customers and screaming at the government. By screaming I mean letters, phone calls, emails… I’ve SEEN a little of that on facebook & twitter….   MORE!


 With few exceptions, those supporting and involved directly with M.O.V.E, or those about to join ranks with M.O.V.E. are the source of truth. Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos and his team (my apologies for not naming names with him at the moment) are standing up to the world, standing UP to an extremely large agenda with class and purpose (they) have continuously shown for those who can’t.” There are others here & abroad.You know who you are, and I thank you.



For the record, I smoked for 30 + years. I’ve vaped almost 2 years. I lost my father to lung cancer last fall. I lost my Grandmother to lung cancer as well. We have been a family of smokers till death do they part. Duh. I miss them dearly, and had they known vaping, they’d be screaming louder than I am.


I DON’T care if you smoke, dual use, just started out… or have been vaping exclusively for years. If you’re vaping and you’re on line… you’ve got future generations needing a choice in this matter.


Are you comfortable?

Are you happy? Are you satisfied? Are you able to do it yourself? Do you care?

Are you complacent?

Full Definition of COMPLACENT

1:  marked by self-satisfaction especially when accompanied by unawareness of actual dangers or deficiencies :  marked by complacency :  self-satisfied <a complacent smile>
2:  complaisant 1
3:  unconcerned        com·pla·cent·ly adverb

 SO.

Vapers / consumers have been dependent on CASAA and the VAPING MILITIA  to fight for us. I asked someone recently if they were too passive. Too complacent. Too laid back.  I think they are.

Is it funding? is it complacency? Is is me? This is a HUGE fight. Cloud blowing and trinkets are awesome…..I’m all for it,  but there’s a much bigger battle. I’m not saying they’re not doing anything, I’m saying more needs to be done.


WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT LOUD ENOUGH.

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We’re playing footsies. Tickle tickle.


This is a fight not easily fought or won for the deeming regulation to occur in the USA…. I don’t know about funding, money, lobbying, cash flow, donations, calls to action, none of that bullshit either, it’s not my expertise and I’ve never run an org…….. I thankfully have a job. I enjoy social media for fun, I love the funny cat video or hand check like the next guy…. we’re all human……but I did notice THIS:


 A photo at the FDA facebook page got 7,000+ comments with a #vapingsavedmylife hashtag. I joined in… on the survey page on facebook and twitter…..

THEN I started tweeting/hitting facebook with DEEMING REGULATION.

It is about loose tobacco – pipes… it’s not just vaping……….it’s about control……………..


The tweets by me the other night were modestly retweeted about the deeming regulation and shared on facebook by a few more…   now, updated daily, the FDA site where DEEMING REGULATION will invariably happen… regulation=control=tax=bans and very stringent guidelines……………………….. As of today:

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As of today on the comments of the DEEMING REGULATION at the FDA site updated Friday:

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 That just pisses me off.

Dimitris retweeted me. A few others did too…. big accounts…to get some real action on the FDA site…..not even a “like”from some…..imagine that. BIG players in the field of vaping.

What the HELL is wrong with you people????

   There are 13,000+ on CASAA’s facebook page. There are over 8,000 on the Vaping Militia facebook page.

No, not all would see a tweet or post on that page, not all that are on facebook are members in the USA, so lets say 10 percent – that’s 2100 comments……………………………… but you can BUMP a video of a cat???

Can you pin a tweet? Can you understand you’re being played? Do you not know what this is about?

It’s about health. It’s about choice.

Finally it’s about control, and continued control of cash.

Your cash. Your children’s cash & health.

It’s about us fighting for their lives.

If you dismiss everything I’ve said about the USA above, keep going…

It’s been banned in other countries. BANNED in other countries.

That pisses me off.

I don’t know that I do everything “right”.

It’s easy to armchair the orgs from where I am. We have to keep doing SOMETHING.

now it’s up to merchants & individuals to be LOUD AS HELL as WELL….

SFATA & AVA are on that side, if you didn’t know and you’re a vendor, shame on you.



Well, David Goerlitz would like a phone call or an email to HELP. Here’s his email and phone number.

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email kgkjkl@yahoo.com……


David Goerlitz. You might recognize him, you might not. I don’t know Mr. Goerlitz myself, but was within an email only conversation with him today, and remember emailing him some time ago on FB about something. That said, I’m going to just post some of his comments – and remember – his phone line is open and if it’s busy, I’m sure he’s got voicemail. I will give his number again, and again…. at the bottom along with his blog.

“Here is where you should pay attention”


He said in part on an email:

I guess I need to tweet, twit, hash tag, or twitter to be taken seriously. I’m old school Kevin and yes you can use whatever I have for whatever you want. I don’t do selfie’s or brag about my past. But it DOES play a roll
I’ll let you read his comments.
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Again in August:

“can’t return a phone call”

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“609 234-0220……email kgkjkl@yahoo.com……I guess I need to tweet, twit, hash tag, or twitter to be taken seriously. I’m old school Kevin and yes you can use whatever I have for whatever you want. I don’t do selfie’s or brag about my past. But it DOES play a roll……………………”




David is, after all, the

http://formerwinstonman.com/ 

and understands what we’re up against. Read his blog. I don’t know if anyone will get this far in it, but if you don’t care, as you were. If you do care, do something, if I hurt your feelings, aww. If I pissed you off, GOOD. If I motivated you as an individual or a company… vendors I’m talking to YOU…..reviewers too…. and you’re going to be active at your B&M, good. Be aware…. it’s coming. David’s BEEN saying so. To the CASAA & Vaping Militia, if you know the knowledge he has, above and beyond what we do, and it is there to use, I won’t ask why you haven’t called David yet, I now will only ask “when will you”, and what else can I do? I’ll always be gladly willing to learn & take suggestions.


David’s number again if you missed it is

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email: kgkjkl@yahoo.com……


Roly Gate had this on E-Cigarette Politics and it is spot ON. Campaign For Truth In Public Health ***********


Well, David Goerlitz would like a phone call or an email to HELP. Here’s his email and phone number.

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email kgkjkl@yahoo.com……


Keep On #Vaping On. Kevin

Merchant Of Doubt. Creator of Doom. Professor of Tobacco Control, Stanton Glantz.

glantzzzzzzzzzzzz With so many controversies over e-cigarettes & vaping, now approaching is the pending possibility of regulating e-cigarettes and other forms of tobacco by the F.D.A, along with the their accepting comments from the public for it’s “deeming legislation”, and there are suddenly many “experts”. Enter Stanton Glantz..


Glantz has a background in tobacco control. You said in 1990 addiction helps people like you pay mortgages…. and in 1992, you stated “if the answer is yes, then we do it, and if the answer is I don’t know, then we don’t bother. That’s the criteria……. for research… wow…. Go ahead, click on it. tobacco2


Some experts are popping up like dandelions in your fresh spring lawn in the arenas of public health, TV doctors, reporters, politicians, even people with no degrees at all… and people in tobacco control against e-cigarettes. Stan has been around awhile. Glantz has a background in tobacco control. It would seem obvious that any professor in tobacco control would see the benefits in using an e-cigarette as a viable way to reduce harm that, if the person chose to get off tobacco for good, a professor would be in favor of just that. That way, an alleged leader in tobacco “control” would have in essence, controlled said use of tobacco. Well, that’s not really the way it is at least out in sunny California.


Stanton Glantz, with his title of PhD and “Professor of Medicine” “Professor of Tobacco Control” (Is that a real title?) is more about “control”. A Professor of doubt, a creator of doom. Seemingly, Glantz is “all powerful and all knowing”, kind of like the wizard of odd. As a “Merchant of Doom” in a smoke filled tobacco world, he’s an expert at pretending there is no research with e-cigarettes, that there’s no results. You’d think with a PhD. , and millions of dollars in funding at his fingertips at the University of California, San Francisco, he’d have defeated tobacco by now, wouldn’t you? You’d think with all that funding from trusting people, there would be nothing but fact and truth coming out of someone’s mouth holding such a prestigious position. You’d think. Stan just posted a blog. Stan likes control. Remember how his attitude was before: “if the answer is yes, then we do it, and if the answer is I don’t know, then we don’t bother. That’s the criteria……. for research… so how different has that become years later???


No bias here………….

http://cleanairquality.blogspot.co.uk/2008/01/stanton-glantzs-400000-funding-from.html?m=1

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I will give my rebuttle in italics and bold on his blog post below on the statements from Stan’s recent blog post he “considers” with his opinion. Remember, he’s a researcher, but science, fact & opinion seem to confuse him in an uncanny way. He seem to glide seamlessly and effortlessly with his words, craftily designed like he might actually be an English teacher, but I think not. His title & a link to it if you desire to read it on it’s own. Love the “(almost)” in his title… he needs to brush it up, like I will his post.


A sensible plan for effective FDA regulation of e-cigarette marketing (almost) now http://tobacco.ucsf.edu/sensible-plan-effective-fda-regulation-e-cigarette-marketing-almost-now Submitted by sglantz on Tue, 2015-03-17 12:58 Eric Lindblom, who headed the Office of Policy in the FDA Center for Tobacco Products and is now on detail at the Georgetown University School of Law, just published “Effectively Regulating E-Cigarettes and Their Advertising— and the First Amendment” in Food and Drug Law Journal. This paper is the an amazingly creative and incisive analysis of how to get out-of-control e-cigarette marketing under control as soon as the FDA achieves authority to regulate e-cigarettes.


You make an astonishing and asinine assumption of the “e-cigarette marketing being “out of control” and I find it a creative and incisive analysis… good for you Stan…. you have tried to come up with one of your own recently? You must watch a LOT of television and see a load of print ads… The part where you say “as soon as the FDA achieves authority to regulate e-cigarettes”…. that may happen, I’m not sure, but you seem to know they will. That’s pretty arrogant. Let’s continue, shall we?


Lindbloom notes that there are two possible justifications for allowing e-cigarettes on the market:


I, along with millions, only need one justification, getting myself off cigarettes. It worked flawlessly.


1. The might help current smokers quit cigarettes. 2. The might be an effective harm reduction strategy for current smokers.


“might, according to Lindbloom, is a questionable statement. He obviously listens to you. They DO help current smokers quit. “might be effective harm reduction”…. isn’t that what ANY tobacco control professor wants? People OFF tobacco?


He notes that there are several ways in which e-cigarettes could result in increased harm:


((“could” and “increased harm”)). Really? No science to back yourself up, Stan? No studies to point to or link? Ironically, being a researcher, you have no research on your part…. man that was SO disappointing you didn’t even try. Well… you’re wrong about ‘increased harm”, Stan- there are PLENTY of studies by real researchers, doctors, scientists even, stating there is significantly LESS harm, considering it’s not combustible tobacco, but you’re the expert? Researchers (what you claim to be?) Scientists & Doctors have done plenty of research and you simply insult them – your colleagues in the field – by saying there isn’t any: E-Cigarette Research (http://www.ecigalternative.com/ecigarette-studies-research.htm))) You also tried to create a false sense of harm in your #curbit campaign. Denying the above research and keeping people on cigarettes. Is that your goal, Stan? Continued funding and job security???


Your proud moment in the #curbit campaign on Twitter, claiming toxic vapor, that e-cigs are cigarettes, and frankly misleading anyone into thinking they would be educated is ironic: S4


1. Kids who would not otherwise have smoked addicts start using e-cigarettes. 2. Former smokers take up e-cigarettes. 3. Former smokers relapse to smoking cigarettes again.


Face it Stan…. I’m calling you out on the “kids” thing. Children is a ploy Stan. It’s a catch all “doom” statement because you have nothing else. If all your work on tobacco control all these years was working like you profess it, then there would be no children SMOKING.  See Gate? No Way! here: Gate? No Way! (Thank you Mr. Zillitron). Former smokers “taking up” e-cigarettes (Adults with choices) would keep them from and OFF combustible tobacco. (Your life’s work and goal?) Former smokers relapse on other forms of smoking cessation-quite a BIT more. Either way, they’re off tobacco… still not getting it are you, and again, you’re a researcher?


While the first two points about the potential benefits of e-cigarettes are controversial,


Not to people wanting a choice to be off of combustible tobacco in a design that works effectively, it’s not “controversial”… just to you, Stan. the last three are not. Indeed, the major challenge to e-cigarette enthusiasts is how to craft a policy/regulatory environment in which the possible benefits of e-cigarettes can occur without the collateral damage of promoting increased nicotine addiction in never or former smokers.


Your assumption with the word “possible” astounds me. Are you for it or against it? “Collateral damage”? Nicotine is something else you need to research, Stan. I thought you were a RESEARCHER! Here, buddy, here’s just one link to nicotine, I don’t want to burden you with too much information at once but would like to point out that this link is from a TOBACCO HARM REDUCTION SITE in case your assistants can’t be with you to help you see it: Nicotine FAQ’s http://tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq/nicotine.htm Please note that some people not only reduce their nicotine by choice, some go as far as to use NO nicotine! I know – it’s such a surprise! Their thought is that nicotine itself is dangerous in this form comes from people like you. I can’t imagine you need to know this, yet I need to be sure we’re clear on this: The carcinogens and chemicals in tobacco from combustion of said chemicals are what is dangerous in cigarette smoking, not the nicotine.


Lindbloom presents a sensible and practical solution: Limit e-cigarette advertising and promotion to highly targeted direct-to-consumer contact materials that only go to confirmed current smokers.


Ummmm what??? Are you nuts? You want to support a “sensible and practical” solution? Are you turning the tide on your stance, Gl  ANTZ?


This is something that companies can do given their databases of current smokers.


Well, Stan, are you contributing your cash to do this? Try another #curbit campaign, that did wonders. This is something you could have done in promoting e-cigarettes rather than pretending there’s no research.


This highly focused advertising would get e-cigarette advertisements out of mass media (including the internet) and greatly reduce exposure to nonsmokers.


Are you a moonlight advertising executive and you’ve been holding out on me?


Lindbloom carefully assesses the First Amendment issues and shows how the FDA could do this discretionary enforcement authority without any new rulemaking.


I can only picture you rubbing your hands together with glee over discretionary enforcement. Control has just gone to your head now, hasn’t it…


This approach would not only allow action much faster – years faster – than using rule making, but it would also be easier to defend in court.


I think, with this statement the way it is, its just more hand rubbing…


If it turns out that e-cigarettes do not help smokers quit, keep people smoking (which I think is their actual effect)


Oh look folks, more opinion!!! I THINK it is their actual effect. ((Ugh! I think you’re an idiot!)) They DO help people quit:


or that they turn out to be a lot more dangerous than the optimists think


TURN OUT to be???? You really want people to take you seriously??? See research again Stan: E-Cigarette Research (http://www.ecigalternative.com/ecigarette-studies-research.htm)


(i.e. if assumptions 1 and/or 2 turn out to be wrong) , the FDA can adjust its rules. But the damage will only be done to current smokers and the significant collateral damage listed in items 3, 4, and 5 will have been avoided.


Are you telling the FDA they can “adjust its rules”??? You have some control issues, Stan. Have you seen a psychologist for that? Damage… well, again, refer to that research… I keep having to tell you it’s there. This is getting old. E-Cigarette Research (http://www.ecigalternative.com/ecigarette-studies-research.htm)))


Everyone at the FDA needs to study this paper with an open mind and see that the deeming rule which is now being finalized does not inadvertently make it harder to implement this plan.


“An Open Mind.” Simon Chapman hasn’t blocked me, I actually like some of his information. Engage properly with people in the twitter arena instead of insisting on your way or the highway, Stan. You might learn something. See if you can have an open mind sometime. You don’t do any research so you might as well ponder the wonders of learning.

S


And, while the technical details of Lindbloom’s plan are written for the US, the ideas can be easily implemented in other countries. Indeed, they may be easier to implement in countries that do not deify commercial speech the way the US Supreme Court does.


“the ideas can be easily implemented in other countries”? They may be easier??? Now you want to control the world??? You REALLY need to see a professional. Consult your Psych. Department over there at the University Of California.


Probably even more important, public health advocates need to read this paper and start pressing the FDA, their keepers in the Obama Administration, and pro-health members of Congress to make sure that this plan gets implemented.


“Probably” even more important. Is it important? You sound tired here. You must hydrate once in a while between naps. It should read something like “I implore” or “must”. Those words are strong, show you mean business and would’ve been better to get people to “start pressing the FDA” to get this implemented. What exactly IS more important? Again, get off your high horse. You are a researcher. You would think the most important goal in a TOBACCO CONTROL researcher would be to get people OFF TOBACCO. Off of cigarettes. With all the research showing it’s MUCH less harmful than cigarettes I’d think you could see that by now.





While I admit your resume’ is impressive. Your integrity is quite questionable. Your ability to try to be cute and not have any idea that research isn’t being done is stunning, but it’s getting old, but you keep at it. Pompous, self-centered and beyond your time, there are people who are helping the world. Real Researchers. Real Doctors. Real Scientists. You insult your community and dismiss, sidestep and misconstrue the very idea that e-cigarettes are safe.



Well, glANTZ, they are safe. E-cigarettes are not only safe in comparison to smoking cigarettes that they’re saving lives. They’re much safer than you trying to keep people from it. Your goal in tobacco harm reduction is to get people off of tobacco. I would presume you would be the first to know that. Do some real research, make a phone call, stop making false claims. You are endangering people and giving them the illusion that an e-cigarette is worse in your #curbit campaign. That deters people and keeps them smoking when they believe the lies you’ve spread. That is irresponsible, that is costing lives. You know, you might make a better politician than researcher. Do some research, check that out…


I’m no one important. I did do a Vaping Truth Survey – Here’s the final analysis, that by default, discredits you with no grants, staff or offices in the very things you elude to…….


Turns out I and THOUSANDS of vapers have done more research than you via E-Cigarette Research (http://www.ecigalternative.com/ecigarette-studies-research.htm)


Dear Stanton Glantz: If millions of e-cigarette users are wrong around the world by benefiting with e-cigarettes, and ONE researcher is right…… isn’t that something you should take up with your math department being statistically unsound? A concerned and much healthier e-cigarette user. As always, Keep On #Vaping On.

Kevin

NZ, thank you again.

Vaping Saves Lives. Voices From The Survey.

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This is you. At the beginning of the Vaping Truth Survey (Final Analysis), I wanted to collect answers, and create a collective voice based on our experiences of vaping for others to see and find – like talking to a friend about it. No, it’s not scientific. I don’t always look to science to find out if something works for others. I just want to see other opinions, views and experiences they’ve had to help with my decision.

Think how one more smoker or tobacco user, if they like, can read about it privately while contemplating it like we all did after a discussion with themselves or a loved one about it, searching for answers to vaping. Maybe they are afraid to ask someone. Maybe they don’t know anyone who vapes. Maybe pride is in the way. Maybe they just believe the misinformation in the media, perpetuated by “experts”. We all know the media, public health and politicians conveniently won’t figure out where to find valid research here:  Real Research

They don’t tell you there is a medical community well on board here with: M.O.V.E

They won’t see this extensive and powerful research done by Kellie Forbes (BScN RN, a member of M.O.V.E.) to help others to find a way to the truth here in PDF form: Vaping-the-truth-USA

or her interview with the M.O.V.E. organization here:

INTERVIEW WITH KELLIE FORBES


With over 7,000 worldwide participating from 72 countries, there is a collection of information for those looking quietly on the internet for answers about it… and I hope this blog is a point to find truth. We’re not all exactly the same, we don’t have the exact same experiences, but collectively, we share a common thread. We know vaping works, and we want others to know it, hands down.

I chose to search “saves lives” and to that effect on the “Any other comments? Suggestions? Thanks for taking this survey!” section on #15….

I said you had a voice. You chose to use those voices. Here are just a fewand I thank you for it.

No edits, just what you put:



professor peter hajeck said in a youtube video published by his university earlier this year that in years to come, this whole contraversy will be written about in history books. i hope the current day opponents of e-cigs can live with themselves when they realise if they had been open with the science and truth about this product from the start, more lives could have been lengthened and saved.
Thursday, Dec 18th 7:17PM


Vaping has saved me. I smell, look and feel better. People aren’t repulsed by my scent when I come inside a room. I am more confident in myself when I talk to others. No more, “I hope I don’t smell like ashes.” I am truly a much happier person.
Thursday, Dec 18th 8:53PM


I vape. I have regained my health and I have regained hopes for a long life not cut short by cancer. It has literally changed my life and I love it. I gave up nothing and gained everything.
Friday, Dec 19th 3:49PM


Vaping has Saved my life, I am in no doubt about that. I have Mild Asthma and since I started Vaping I have had the same inhaler for Eighteen Months as opposed to every Six Weeks when I Smoked
Saturday, Dec 20th 7:24AM


Vaping has changed my life in so many great ways….. politicians remember… I vape! And I also VOTE! Try to take my vape I will take your vote!
Saturday, Dec 20th 11:18AM


Vaping has saved my life. After smoking 42 years my doctor told me I have never been so healthy and asked me what I was doing different. That is when I told him I quit smoking and now vape. He told me to keep on vaping then.
Saturday, Dec 20th 11:55AM


Vaping has saved my life. I am so glad I made the switch. Not only has it saved me money (even though I have bought a few mods and juice), but my health (both mental and physical) are much MUCH better
Saturday, Dec 20th 3:20PM


Thanks to all of the unseen people who are giving of themselves to make vaping an acceptable alternative to smoking. They have saved countless lives with hardly a word of thanks.
Saturday, Dec 20th 10:48PM


Please, please… anything you can do to make Vaping more widely known and available to the public will be welcome.
Vaping saved me from smoking and probable serious health issues. I’m sure many others would also see the same benefit I have – if only Governments and business would get out of the way and make it available for all smokers.
Sunday, Dec 21st 12:55AM


Vaping saved me 3000 Euro a year!
Sunday, Dec 21st 8:07AM


RELAX AND VAPE, onwards and upwards. The best is yet to come if we vapors are vocal about keeping the government from ruining our new industry that has already saved countless lives and not to mention countless tax dollars that would have been spent on medical bills for people dieing from smoking related illnesses.
DOWN WITH BIG TOBACCO! They are killers.
Sunday, Dec 21st 5:23PM


I feel it’s saved my life!
Monday, Dec 22nd 12:31AM


Vaping saved my life. I believe it isn’t natural and in no way should be endorsed for everyone to do but it should be encouraged to smokers to end smoking. Honestly, I don’t even eat candy anymore because of vaping. I can just put whatever flavor juice I want instead. I watched people hack and cough around cigarette smoke and my grandmother is sitting in a chair dying from stage 4 emphysema from smoking all her life. My children used to cough when I would go for a smoke break and come back inside. That’s what opened my eyes that I needed to quit. Smoking kills and it’s been proven. It hasn’t for vaping.
Monday, Dec 22nd 1:13AM


vaping saved my mothers life
Monday, Dec 22nd 7:51PM


Vaping saved my life!
Tuesday, Dec 23rd 3:19AM


Vaping has saved my life. I am a healthier person due to vaping. Vaping works. I am a non smoker
Saturday, Dec 27th 9:41AM


Vaping saved my life! I will NEVER stop vaping no matter what! My whole family has stopped smoking and started vaping and I am proud of them all, it has impacted all of us in so many ways from health to safety.
Saturday, Dec 27th 10:13AM


VAPING I BELIEVE
SAVED MY LIFE
Friday, Jan 2nd 11:24AM


Best stop smoking device ever created. Perhaps the biggest breakthrough in public health in terms of potential lives saved since penicillin. How can anyone in their right mind hinder this instead of championing it?
Tuesday, Jan 13th 12:44AM


Vaping has literally saved my life – I was borderline COPD and emphysema, and both have reversed to the point where it’s almost impossible to tell I ever smoked.
Tuesday, Jan 20th 12:39PM


None, other than this: I believe that vaping has saved / extended my life.
Tuesday, Jan 20th 2:26PM


Without a doubt in my opinion, vaping works. I have no doubt in my mind that vaping has saved my life.
Saturday, Jan 24th 5:29AM


I tried patches, gum, chantix, we’ll but in & cold turkey. Nothing made me quit smoking until I discovered vaping. I feel so much healthier l. I don’t cough anymore or cough up nasty phlegm. I don’t get short of breath. I feel like I can breath. I smell and taste so much better. Best of all, I don’t stunk like an ashtray anymore. Vaping saved my life!
Saturday, Jan 24th 2:44PM


Vaping has saved my life.
Vaping has changed my life. I wish more people saw the advantages of switching to vaping.. Vape on!
Monday, Dec 22nd 9:01PM


Vaping has changed not only my life but many others. Never would i have thought it worked until i tried it and im very very thankful i did. I feel better and better as the days go on.
Tuesday, Dec 23rd 8:45AM


vaping changed my life!
Thursday, Dec 25th 10:07PM


Vaping has changed my life ! Every smoker should try it and help us make this a smoke free world .
Friday, Dec 26th 2:20PM


I always use the term “switched” not quit because I still have nicotine in my juice and I’m still performing the same steps I would if I were “smoking” cigarettes, putting something to my mouth(although holding it differently) and inhaling,I’ve just changed some of the ingredients. Telling me to get rid of my nicotine and flavors completely, is like telling someone to drink unflavored decaffeinated coffee only, it won’t happen. I really hope we don’t lose our right to vape.
Sunday, Dec 28th 11:48AM


I FEEL AS THO MY LIFE HAS CHANGED. THE BALL AND CHAIN IS CUT FREE. I NO LONGER FEEL CONTROLLED, I SMELL GREAT, AND I FEEL WONDERFUL. NOW SINCE I DID THIS SURVEY WILL YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHERE PPL GO TO ENTER CONTEST’S TO WIN UPGRADE’S. I’VE NVER WON ANYTHING EXCEPT I HAVE ONE TH FIGHT ON SMOKING, AMEN
Tuesday, Dec 30th 8:39PM


Thanks for making this survey. My answers were sincere for being past my bedtime. Vaping matters to me; It changed our lives for the better. I would appreciate a little extra safety regarding the liquids, and metals used for tanks/coils. I do not, however, wish to move backward where nicotine consumption is concerned. I honestly believe the negativity heaped on vaping resonates in a not-so-coincidental way with the wishes of tobacco companies; namely that vaping should go away. If anything is a gateway drug for cigarettes I would look toward stress. The idea people are going to exodus from vaping to cigarettes is comically dangerous. Kinda like our politicians.

Wednesday, Dec 31st 6:51AM




Lots more on the blog… more voices are coming…. 🙂

Keep ON #Vaping ON.

Kevin


Nicotine Reduction Therapy, What’s really safe? The Truth & Perspective on the Gum, Patch & Drugs Over E-Cigs.

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Nicotine Reduction Therapy, A new perspective for the health community. Some, as seen below, cannot use certain methods. Just because they are approved, doesn’t mean there aren’t issues with the end user. It doesn’t mean they are safe.


These people went to these methods, these lengths as a way to stop smoking and these are their words for “approved” methods and voice some extremely valid reasons they did not work. These comments show without doubt or need of “science” that there IS a better and more effective alternative, vaping.

( Comments from around the world, unedited, from the Vaping Truth Survey)


The patch caused skin irritation and nughtmares. The gum caused digestive issues. Cold turkey worked for a short time because I was pregnant. And Chantix caused horrible nausea and nightmares.

• Chantix was awful. It messed with how I felt and caused anxiety. Gum def didn’t work. Patch burned my skin, gave me super weird dreams. Vaping, has had no negative side effects.

• I didn’t try acupuncture but I did try auriculotherapy. Zyban worked the best, but after 18 months quit I started again and was up to a pack-a-day again within three days… as if I’d never quit! None of the other methods I tried worked for more than a few days at most. You have to want to quit SO badly and have some serious willpower and motivation… otherwise, nothing will be effective. Vaping replaces not only the nicotine, but the hand-to-mouth action. That was critical to my success.

• Nothing satisfied me like vaping does. Vaping satisfies all the urges. My doctor did not recommend me quitting smoking as I was going through a lot and he felt it would push me over the edge
• Chantix made me irritable and mean. Cold turkey I didn’t have enough self control for. The lozenges and gum did not help with the hand to mouth feel of smoking so it wasn’t good enough either.

• Chantix (prescription) made me an absolute nut, patch and inhaler didn’t work for more than a month (I would go right back to it), and cold turkey didn’t work at all.

• 1 week was the longest I could quit with existing legacy methods, they just don’t work. Quitting by using a vape device was much easier by comparison.

• nothing worked for me. i believe this is down to the fact that with patches, for example, they give you a 24hr hit of nicotine, and when you remove them you still crave the nicotine, so go slowly back to gaining your hit, be that via smoking or another method.

• As soon as you stop taking the drugs, you want a smoke, the gum tastes horrible and doesn’t work worth a darn, and cold turkey is really hard without support. Using an ecig replaced the action of puffing on a smoke so the psychological affect of puffing on an ecig completely calms the users cravings without the nasty chemicals and tar
• I wouldn’t touch Champix or Zyban as many suicides have been attributed to them.

• Neither medications like Chantix or patches/gums worked in my case. The withdrawal syndrome was too strong or they had some unexpected secondary effects.

• You name it I’ve probably tried it. (The Dr’s wouldn’t let me try the drugs because of the medications I have to take already.) Nothing worked, that monkey was always on my back saying “I want a real cigarette”. Vaping has given me a freedom I never thought was possible. The monkey is dead and I am truly free.
• Vaping is not a smoking-cessation method for me. I tried it and immediately realised this was BETTER than smoking – without the health risks and the guilt. I enjoy my nicotine as I enjoy my alcohol and caffeine. I have no intention of giving up vaping any more than I intend to give up beer or coffee.

• That last resort was Chantix and Zyban. It caused me to hallucinate. I gave the packets back to my doctor. As with patches, no effect except dizziness, rash on my skin, and I could even have one patch on each arm and smoke at the same time. I tired the Allan Carr method, his book is a con inmy opinion, it should be banned !
• Patches – gave me nightmares, Inhaler – tasted AWFUL, Zyban – I had this twice, both times it worked for about 4 months and then I returned to smoking, Champix – also had this twice, made me feel very sick both times, didn’t finish either course due to making me feel so unwell. Could Turkey – managed about 6 hours. Acupuncture – price prohibitive and didn’t work at all

• I was in the car. still in the hypnotist’s parking lot. decided to test out how much I DIDN’T want a cigarette and how yucky it would taste. Lit it up and had no difference. Wasted $30 and smoked all the way home!

• My last attempt before rediscovering vaping was another trial with chantix along side of recovering from larengeal surgery because of a cancer scare. I lasted about one month. I would sa I have been desperate to quit for the last 15 years, but none of those options made it possible for me until I picked up my e-cig.

• After one week on chantix I got depressed and was told by the doctor to stop using it as people have committed suicide on it. Other nrt either tasted horrible or made me itch or hurt my throat. After having acupuncture I left the building and had a fag. Self help books didnt teach me anything i didn’t already know. telling smokers that they will die won’t help anybody.

• I can’t try the prescriptions as I have a history of depression. Nothing else touched the cravings. Vaping the right nic strength totally kills the cravings. I actually prefer vaping over smoking because of the taste and smell and it works! No wicked witch from the west! 🙂

• Champix (as its called in Canada) made me terribly ill. I did quit smoking for the 5 weeks I was on Champix but because I felt so sick, I realized that this wasn’t the way to quit. I started smoking again and felt better. Pharmaceuticals are not the answer for smoking cessation.

• I nursed my mother through lung cancer until her death in 2000, then 5 years later went through it all again with my sister. Both were long term heavy smokers like me, so I had every incentive to quit. Believe me I tried – countless times using every known aid. Nothing worked for very long so I made my peace with it and quit quitting. Then I was introduced to vaping and decided to try it for one week to see if it might help me to cut down. I never smoked again. I quit without even trying.



If you’re a health professional and are in any doubt there isn’t enough “research” about vaping, please refer to this website: E-cigarette Research, Studies & Papers

Once you’ve done that, or already understand “vaping” is substantially safer than smoking: PLEASE join M.O.V.E. 


Here is where I am going to turn the tables a bit on misinformation. Here is where I call one of you alleged professionals OUT.

Schoolyard bullying if you want to call it that, but you have media at your disposal, I simply have a blog. Call it what you will.

Some medical experts are told to tell patients to “use these approved methods” by SPONSORS. Perks, bonuses. Prestige. Looking good on television is not saving lives. If you are one of those “experts”, and this stings, then you need to re-evaluate your profession and seek help, knowledge and further educate yourself.

You assume it’s important work you’re doing spreading misinformation about e-cigarettes, and it’s quite disturbing knowing you’re too arrogant or ignorant by claiming you “don’t know enough” and there’s “not enough information”.

If you are a medical professional. do some reading here about e-cigarettes. If I can find it with a full time job, and NO degree, you can certainly access and inform with your vast knowledge and education, right? You’ve got the big degree. Figure it out.


Here is an example of “not sure”.

Dr Kevin R. Campbell, MD, FACC

“Discussing the dangers of e-cigarettes with @WNCNMikeg on @WNCN this morning”.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=936687416343234


He says he is discussing dangers and states in part:

“some type of fluid” (Um, don’t you KNOW? Your discussing the DANGERS of E-cigs, Doctor? You don’t sound qualified to discuss them very well, now do you?)

“nicotine…terribly addictive” Wrong

Referring to Dr. Jeff Crane, he’s “unsure” but both of you could go here for plenty of information about e-cigarettes.

As for gateways / children?

In the end, this specific “doctor” after proper adult engagement and “needing to know more”, blocked quite a few people both on twitter & facebook because we were pointing out the discrepancies in his “expertise”, like adults.



For some reason, this next link goes to the middle of the twitter line, so you may need to scroll up to see his first tweet:

This is just a part of the timeline here.

dangerous



I don’t care what your position is, I don’t care what your title claims you to be, if you are in the public eye you should be ashamed of yourself for pretending to know “dangers” and then saying you “don’t know enough” of the very topic you describe as dangerous. Dr. Campbell, by the way, I saw your misinformation about Chantix where you claim it’s VERY EFFECTIVE as well…would you recommend that crap to your family?

Stop the lies, vaping saves lives. Nice tie, and hope your book sells hundreds.


All comments are from the Vaping Truth Survey (Final Analysis)


If you have PROOF, and it has been properly performed and properly reviewed, I and every person vaping will listen to every word.

Here, just in case you want to redeem yourself, I have your “Plausible Deniability” section ready.

Keep On #Vaping On.

Kevin

E-Cigs & Vaping Dangers, Health Issues Determined

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There is no science in this survey. This is what one person would tell another, or to their health provider. In this instance, they told it to the Vaping Truth Survey.

Symptoms, health issues, resolutions. Very powerful. No one died.

Question number 7 was posed to over 7,238 people. ALL had a chance to answer. These are 100 voices who chose to speak about their health benefits, the top include fifty who had negative experiences with vaping, the bottom were positive.

You may be as surprised as I am to see what they describe in both.

I said at the beginning of the survey, you have a voice…. now they ALL have a voice.

Health benefits you’ve noticed since vaping?

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Health benefits you’ve noticed since vaping? ( 1% chose this response )

The following chose to answer “I have had health issues I believe are from vaping (Please comment)”

Discovered a PG allergy when started vaping
Saturday, Jan 24th 8:18AM


Pg….gives me cramps in my legs. I switched to 100% vg..solved it. Nothing big.
Friday, Jan 23rd 8:56PM


excess of mucus(especially irritable when vaping)
Friday, Jan 23rd 12:08AM


No unusual side effects since I started vaping.
Thursday, Jan 22nd 9:40PM


I seem to get sore throats a little more often
Wednesday, Jan 21st 2:15AM


I feel like my teeth are more sensitive.
Wednesday, Jan 21st 12:31AM


I do not have the “smokers” cough anymore, I sleep better and do not wake up coughing, my taste buds and sense of smell are so much better. I haven’t had bronchitis since I stopped smoking and I was getting it every year at least once. So many things have improved. I have not had to go to the doctor since I started vaping but have an appointment next month for a check up to renew prescriptions or see if I can give them up too.
Tuesday, Jan 20th 10:14PM


being new, or simply making a mistake on what juice to buy – using a higher MG nicotine content, you have a chance of “over doing” your nicotine theropy, and get a slight overdose. this has happened to me multiple times, and can cause you to black out randomly – causing physical damage to your body whatever you fall on(bump your head or anything of the like).

also, vaping dehydrates the body at a faster pace then usual. i HAVE blackedout due to dehydration multiple time since switching to ecigarettes – its not the ecigs fault, its mine for not staying hydrated, but i can see this as a possible issue also for some people
Tuesday, Jan 20th 1:23PM


I’ve noticed occasional upper chest pain after vaping, but I can’t be positive that they’re related.
Monday, Jan 19th 12:37PM


problems with sleeping
Monday, Jan 19th 10:47AM


Glycol allergy. I need to use 100% VG liquids only with low flavours amount.
Sunday, Jan 18th 9:17AM


I had become incontinent due to smoking and within a few days my cough had disappeared. My anxiety levels also dramatically dropped.
I no longer stink like an ashtray and can now go for walks which I was unable to before.
Saturday, Jan 17th 6:24AM


My psoriasis might be getting worse due to dehydration from excessive vaping. Also dry eye and mouth
Sunday, Jan 11th 6:58AM


Tinnitus caused by vaping
Friday, Jan 9th 5:37AM


I have been searching sites looking for symptoms that may happen when starting vaping but I believe it would be simple fixes with some information 🙂 I will not go back to smoking !!
Wednesday, Jan 7th 11:26PM



I have a very weak body constitution plus being asthmatic, my health has gotten worse since smoking but the switchover to vaping has made me cope with my life better as a weak person; I can breath with clarity, i can taste things better, I don’t get sick often and I don’t smell awful.
Wednesday, Jan 7th 1:22PM


the only drawback are breakouts of acne, and they are symptoms closely related to vaping VG and PG
Wednesday, Jan 7th 6:00AM


less chronic cough during winter
Tuesday, Jan 6th 6:10AM


My weight has increased donce I quit smoking and started using an e-cigarette…which was an annoying but acceptable downside.
Sunday, Jan 4th 4:38AM


Stomach problems doctor said vaping causes it. Acid.
Sunday, Jan 4th 1:19AM


Fortunately I didn’t experience health problems from smoking, so there was no change after switching to vaping. I have had bronchitis twice since vaping though, and had never had it before when smoking. I also have frequent problems with throat and bronchial irritation, dryness and soreness from vaping.
Friday, Jan 2nd 11:10PM


generallly felt better
Friday, Jan 2nd 10:15PM


Right at the start i did have some bleeding gums sore throut and coughing up all kinds of bad stuff, but i had similar problems in other quit efforts
Friday, Jan 2nd 7:31PM


i have a slight intolerance to PG, but if i smke a 70/30 VG/PG i am ok
Friday, Jan 2nd 6:32PM


Heavy vaping can be dehydrating & can upset gums or throat, even get on your chest a little but those things are more common with cheap mystery e-liquids. By contrast, good quality e-liquids from trusted vendors where we can trace the ingredients are far friendlier. The symptoms are minor compared with those from smoking.
You should learn about what is in e-liquid & how to select different ratios of pg & vg.
Friday, Jan 2nd 5:48PM


I feel much fitter in every aspect. Only side effect I’ve noticed is a dry mouth in the mornings.
Tuesday, Dec 30th 6:41PM


I get occasional tickling in the back of my throat when I don’t drink enough liquids whilst vaping. Nothing compared to my laboured breathing and morning coughs when smoking though!
Monday, Dec 29th 8:18AM


Before i started with vaping i had lung capicity ad 70% and now its all right
Sunday, Dec 28th 4:38PM


I often had flues with hard coughing in the past. Now I am less ill, and if I get a flu, it’s without cough!
Sunday, Dec 28th 1:53PM

 

 


The only health issue i have from vaping is sore/bleeding sinus’s..I believe this is caused from to much pg in the eliquid.I now mix my own eliquid which is helping clear them up..
Sunday, Dec 28th 9:57AM


zits
Sunday, Dec 28th 7:59AM


Have noticed more wheezing at night if I have been vaping hard on higher PG juice. But most changes have been beneficial.
Saturday, Dec 27th 1:49PM


From the third month of vaping, I acquired a rash, and it has continued to spread.
Saturday, Dec 27th 4:41AM


Lung capacity is lower. May be because I vape more often than I smoked because I enjoy it more.
Friday, Dec 26th 11:48PM


still have a lot of flem throughout the day and in the morning especially.
Friday, Dec 26th 9:11PM


Bad lung at one point
Lost taste for weeks at a time
Friday, Dec 26th 8:31PM


I can also smell and taste now
Friday, Dec 26th 8:06PM


Felt the lack of oxygen in my blood, muscles and veins, after starting vaping I feel like before I was a non smoker
Friday, Dec 26th 4:46PM


old health issues included an increased heart rate durring mild excersize, regular issues with heartburn.

Both stopped once I was fully vaping and not smoking at all.
Friday, Dec 26th 12:59PM


I found I personally seem to have a certain sensitivity to high PG concentrated juices. Perhaps the dehydration factor that comes with that as I was beginning to get strange muscle cramping after I started vaping regularly. However, I found that the cramping episodes completely disappeared by switching over to MAX VG-based juices. Problem solved!
Friday, Dec 26th 11:48AM



High blood pressure
Migraines
Temple pressure
Friday, Dec 26th 5:21AM


I feel much better !
Friday, Dec 26th 3:07AM


I get dry lips and mouth from vaping. That’s about it tho!
Thursday, Dec 25th 3:34PM


headaches, bad mood in morning
Wednesday, Dec 24th 7:09PM


I suffer from chest pain all day. I have never had that before and I’ve been checked at the doc I’m not sick so I am worried
Wednesday, Dec 24th 4:52AM


I got bad stomach, trouble With breath and chest after a while With one UK brand. After i switched to Dekang it all good. I strongly feel ejuices needs cotrolling, analyzes and regulations.
Tuesday, Dec 23rd 2:40AM


Found out I have a PG allergy, have to stay above 80%vg
Monday, Dec 22nd 8:47PM


It’s nice being able to run up a hill. Went for years without experiencing it. (And everything else that might wind you. 😉 )
Monday, Dec 22nd 6:13PM


Canker sores and feeling like i have the flu
Monday, Dec 22nd 4:21PM


The junk that came out of my lungs!!! People are telling me I look healthier than when I was a smoker. I’ll chock that up to my cells getting more oxygen
Monday, Dec 22nd 3:42PM


Seems most of those above — really aren’t issues are they?

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Lets get to the same question, 50 answers choosing the response  “I am listed as non-smoker on my medical chart” that chose to leave comments:


Doctor is IMPRESSED with how much better my lungs are, I can exercise and walk up steps without being out of breath… amazing changes
Friday, Jan 16th 4:55PM


No more issues with high blood pressure. Physical activity is easier.
Thursday, Jan 15th 9:13PM


The proof is in my records I went from having a ridiculously high blood pressure to avg 112/72. My lung capacity is much greater I don’t get winded just by climbing a flight of stairs.
Thursday, Jan 15th 8:47PM


Please add: improved senses of smell and taste…decreased cough, sob.
Thursday, Jan 15th 8:52PM


I’m much healthier
Thursday, Jan 15th 11:53AM


The difference is night and day. Simple as.
Tuesday, Jan 13th 12:44AM


Suffered COPD since 2012 and needed to find a way to alleviate my position – had tried patches and gum but had not succeeded
Monday, Jan 12th 4:56AM


Because it is the truth!
Sunday, Jan 11th 2:24PM


I can smell things better and I don’t smell of tobacco, my house is fresh, my bank account is healthier, I can taste foods and flavours better, no stinking ashtrays, skin is better, teeth are whiter, I can run better and further and my recovery time is much quicker.
Saturday, Jan 10th 10:32AM


Just feel so much healthier not smoking
Saturday, Jan 10th 8:42AM


no personal health concerns from vaping.
Friday, Jan 9th 10:48PM


I needed Albuterol since 2009 up until Oct 2013 when I started vaping. No longer use or need albuterol or any prescriptions regarding pulmonary function…I can now run stairs!
Friday, Jan 9th 10:21PM


My Heath is bad from smoking but it has become better since I quit
Friday, Jan 9th 10:06PM


I have not used my emergency inhaler in over a year
Thursday, Jan 8th 5:24PM


I have clear lungs now and my cat scans are clear. If I didn’t discover vaping I probably would be dead now.
Thursday, Jan 8th 2:28PM


the only drawback are breakouts of acne, and they are symptoms closely related to vaping VG and PG
Wednesday, Jan 7th 6:00AM


couldn’t finish a sentence without taking a breath. 1 week after starting to vape i can breathe again!
Tuesday, Jan 6th 10:20PM


All of the above !! In MY favor!! Yes yes yes!
Tuesday, Jan 6th 7:46PM


My asthma has improved.
Tuesday, Jan 6th 2:12PM


I feel 100% better in SO many ways!
Tuesday, Jan 6th 12:19PM


less chronic cough during winter
Tuesday, Jan 6th 6:10AM


I am asthmatic since baby, thanks to vapotage I no longer suffer to the problem.
Tuesday, Jan 6th 6:11AM


Additional benefits: far fewer colds and other passing infections since changing to vaping. NO coughing or chest infections at all.
Monday, Jan 5th 7:34PM


I cut my 5K run time by 8 minutes.
Monday, Jan 5th 4:28PM


Sense of taste & smell back to normal after 45 years. No cruddy lungs. Hardly ever suffer from colds now. House & car smells like a sweet shop.
Monday, Jan 5th 2:35PM


I coughed myself to a bloody mess while smoking. Research showed; cancer, no. copd, yes. I was already coughing for a long time a lot.
I never cough now and I can breathe better. I am also not so depressed.
Monday, Jan 5th 10:50AM


Sanity, yes the present anti smoking tactics are driving people mad!
Saturday, Jan 3rd 9:40AM


No more BP meds or cholesterol meds required now. Only thing which is slow to recover and continues to be a bit of an issue is poor circulation.
Saturday, Jan 3rd 1:45AM


I still have some breathing issues but I have gained quite a bit of weight. Not because of vamping but due to an injury that immobilised me for some time.
Saturday, Jan 3rd 12:25AM


There is no longer the nasty smoke smell and smokers breath that comes with using cigarettes.
Saturday, Jan 3rd 12:03AM


I do feel better in myself.
Friday, Jan 2nd 11:56PM


Fortunately I didn’t experience health problems from smoking, so there was no change after switching to vaping. I have had bronchitis twice since vaping though, and had never had it before when smoking. I also have frequent problems with throat and bronchial irritation, dryness and soreness from vaping.
Friday, Jan 2nd 11:10PM


Right at the start i did have some bleeding gums sore throut and coughing up all kinds of bad stuff, but i had similar problems in other quit efforts
Friday, Jan 2nd 7:31PM


BECAUSE ITS TRUE
Friday, Jan 2nd 7:06AM


Cardiac and family doctors both say I’m better.
Wednesday, Dec 31st 10:28AM


No wheezing, no extreme wheezing when lying down, lung test I tested way better than my age! No more blood pressure meds since down to zero nic.
Wednesday, Dec 31st 9:09AM


Cholesterol dropped from 430 to 280 (w/o medication), stamina greatly increased, lost all indications of perio (previously treated for 10 years), total loss of angina events
Wednesday, Dec 31st 6:42AM


I can run up stairs again. I don’t get winded dragging my trashcans down my 500-foot long driveway, and I’m back into mountain biking.

My cigarette habit affected my health in such a way that I had to sell my old mountain bike.
Wednesday, Dec 31st 1:11AM


3 doctors are thrilled and have me down as a former smoker.
Tuesday, Dec 30th 11:57PM


MY LUNG’S SOUND CLEAR AND MY PULSE AND BLOOD PRESSURE ARE BELOW NORMAL NOW. I WORK OUT AND I HAVE A PULSE OF 60 NOW INSTEAD OF 88 AND MY BP IS 102-64 WHICH IS EXCELLANT.
Tuesday, Dec 30th 8:39PM


I feel 100% more healthy since I quit smoking
Tuesday, Dec 30th 6:57PM


I didn’t smoke long enough to have any medically diagnosed issues, but I have noticed a significant drop in pain from deep breathing, and soooooooo much less coughing.
Tuesday, Dec 30th 9:13AM


only one cough/cold in over 2 years
Monday, Dec 29th 6:25PM



Used to fail lung function tests as a smoker – had to do lung function tests at work in the factory I worked in they were done 3 monthly – failed every one of them, when I had been vaping 11 months I had a lung function test at my local hospital – I passed – and the nurse advised that my lung capacity at that time was only 2% less than a non smoker – I would be interested in having another one in a years time to see what level my lungs are then
Monday, Dec 29th 3:10PM


You forgot the one that says: No more bad breath.
Also in 2014 I saved 60.300 NOK by not buying cigarettes.
Monday, Dec 29th 12:49PM


Better breathing, better smelling ability, better overall feeling.
Monday, Dec 29th 8:59AM


I get occasional tickling in the back of my throat when I don’t drink enough liquids whilst vaping. Nothing compared to my laboured breathing and morning coughs when smoking though!
Monday, Dec 29th 8:18AM


complexion improved and not had one cold or flu bug since vaping…due to the PG i assume…being an fda approved air sanitiser
Monday, Dec 29th 6:11AM


I do have problems with flavours, so I use them only in very low concentrations <1%.
Monday, Dec 29th 6:17AM


So there you have it. Not one of these respondents said they died. Imagine that.

Science? No. Would any doctor get the same answer? Yes.

That’s my point. If you’re a health professional and understand vaping is substantially better than smoking,

PLEASE join M.O.V.E. 

If you are a health professional, tobacco control or the like and want to continue to dismiss this evidence without proper evidence of your own, without regard to the fact that vaping is not smoking, and continuing to misguide the public….

Please do, and I’ll keep calling you out-


 

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Please, KEEP SMOKING! Plausible Deniability, an Incestuous Relationship.

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Please, KEEP SMOKING!
Plausible Deniability, an Incestuous Relationship.

The U.S. Governments around the world.
Tobacco Companies
Health Care
Pharmaceutical Companies
Tobacco Control
Media

It’s quite a litany of diversion and scare tactics these divisions of doom are creating about vaping. They are in an all-out war on e-cigs. They OF COURSE all have your best interest at the core of their stories. Smoking and tobacco kills countless every year. Those listed above are not helping. They want their money back.

I’m here to tell you and every one of them, not only are they irresponsible, they are wrong, I am telling you they are creating lies, stories and untruthful statements. They are costing lives while they do it, and they’re getting away with it.

In the U.S.A., the false claims of e-cigs being dangerous has been slowly brewing over quite some time. This is not a new technology. It’s been around quite a while. It has evolved, but is by no means dangerous. To the contrary, it’s very safe despite the efforts of many alleged “educated” people claiming it isn’t, and quite frankly, I’m tired of them insulting the masses as if they have the right to do so.

After over 10+ years of availability, the “e-cig” has long outlasted the time it took to determine (& then ban) bath salts in the USA. The lies and rehashing of improper studies are reworded, rebranded and put back out, time and time again. If properly warranted, wouldn’t it have been acted on long ago by the whole world before 10 years? Wouldn’t you hope? You would hope. Why would they try it now?

They needed time. After all the time they’ve had? Now they claim it’s urgent. To who, and at what true cost?

The scheme is to try to regulate, ban, create hysteria and tax e-liquid like tobacco, without question. But how can they do it? Ten plus years of time, slowly boiling the frog, that’s how. Why? I’m sure you’ve heard the claims over and over and over. Think about those insidious claims! Consider what they’re saying! I was already smoking for 30 ++ years, did you people to go back to smoking?

Formaldehyde? Carcinogens? Toxins? Dangers? Those are already in cigarettes with the other four thousand plus chemicals. Why so many? Perplexed?

You thought it was about nicotine, right? Well… NO!
Here is a responsible link All about nicotine, and addiction.


Gateways? Think of the children? Please. Marijuana is and continues to be legalized in the USA. There’s big money in that. Revenue is the only goal. It’s not about safe. It’s not about children. It’s not about health. No one’s yelling about gateways anymore for pot anymore? Is that politically incorrect to do because money is more important than gateways to harder drugs from it?

They exclaim and extort partial and false statements as if they were true. Anyone and everyone with a title suddenly have an opinion. They hear a hastily performed, as wrongfully submitted study was done, release it and push it to the press without checking facts. You then can only assume it is true. They claim danger. They claim importance. They say they aren’t sure. They need more time. How more children have to lose a parent before common sense prevails? E-cigs saves lives. After TEN + years? Are they stupid? Are you? Bath salts were gone pretty fast.

Without question the message that should always be relayed is vaping is way safer than smoking. I am as bold as to say it is SAFE. I am as bold to say it can cure smoking. Wouldn’t that be the ultimate GOAL of anyone? Seems quite irresponsible with SO many people going to it despite the allegations, doesn’t it?

Well you’d think so. Wouldn’t their energy be much better directed at making it better if there “were” something wrong with it? Wouldn’t you think someone would say, HEY, this is WORKING! Let’s make it better!
No, there’s no money in that, they’d rather ban it. Tax it, regulate it and control it.

Obviously they want people to smoke. I find that IRRESPONSIBLE.

Here’s a crash course in “plausible deniability”:

“If a lie is repeated enough, they will believe it.”


The U.S. Government:

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Politicians and the states are completely responsible in the lies.
The Master Settlement Agreement income is going down because cigarette sales are dropping “like the last cigarette in a quitters hand”, to vaping. That falling tax revenue is essential to pay the mismanaged funds from the Master Settlement Agreement. A good 10 minute read in itself:  Here is how they MISMANAGED FUNDS. They want to tax this disruptive technology like tobacco yet politicians are already claiming they’ll exclude gums and patches.

The FDA, if it deems it is tobacco, will allow this to happen. It is not tobacco. Tobacco is a leaf. It burns. Politicians are passing or trying to pass legislation claiming “children” and to deter people from smoking. They are lying and they know it. If over the years, tax deterred people from smoking, wouldn’t you think all those funds from judgmental and emotionally driven “sin” taxes would have done some good by now?

If their claims keep people smoking, it’s just plausible deniability.


Tobacco Companies:

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They want products sold at any cost. They are in favor of certain restrictions. If it doesn’t look like their product, it should be banned, restricted. They’ll take the tax like tobacco. If it hurts sales on their approved product, you’ll just go back to smoking. Welcome home. They win either way. What good have you ever heard about a tobacco company? I could go on forever. They profit either way. If their claims keep people smoking, it’s just plausible deniability.



Health Care:

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Here’s where it gets interesting. Health CARE. Big names in Doctors are saying they don’t approve. Big TV names. Big network “in house” doctors. I’ll spare you the names for now, but I’ll keep you all fresh in my mind. They get flashy lights and ABUSE their prestige and proper titles to seem authoritative and convincing in their 2 minute piece on national television. They create very well-crafted mishandling and diversions to the truth under false pretenses.

Rarely do they show someone who does vape or actual truths, they always sensationalize the headline, fill in scary words, say there are not enough studies to make conclusions, and end it. You the viewer are led to believe what the beginning and ending are. It’s a great trick any magician has performed countless times.

The health care part of our story lies (pun intended) with the concern of “your” health. Every one of them with their degrees, and the oath they took at the beginning of their careers, say “dangers of e-cigs” or some form of that statement. When I’ve said that’s not true, it’s safer than smoking, don’t you agree? They say inevitably “they need more time, they need more studies”.

Well, if you claim dangers, then you say need more time and studies, you are baiting people into believing what you claim with crafty titles of “Doctor” or “Health Care Official” when you then claim you need more studies and more time. Make up your mind, you are supposed to be experts. Claims of second had “smoke” just like tobacco. It’s not smoke, it’s not tobacco.

Here are plenty of studies at http://www.ecigarette-research.org

Here are plenty of conducted studies, some refuting the claims you’ll be lying about over and over and over.

I also point to the fact continuously that Medical Professionals are already WELL on board with vaping and electronic cigarettes here at M.O.V.E. There ARE and their numbers continue to grow. Please join these intelligent and well respected professionals conterparts.

That said, if you stop smoking, and become healthier by doing so – and you will, then you certainly will be less “sick” and won’t need the professional services of doctors in health, now will you? I think not. I don’t think they like that. “Come back and $ee me in two weeks for a follow-up”.

In case you don’t know, drugs like Chantix – APPROVED by the F.D.A. are dangerous.

Health care doesn’t like e-cigs for the most part. If their claims keep people smoking, it’s just plausible deniability.


Pharmaceutical Companies

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Pharmaceutical profits are going down very quickly. (products like gums, patches sales are down) because people are continuing to find that vaping works to stop smoking. How can all those mostly former smokers be wrong?

Like above, they want to sell product. If you won’t buy their patches, gums, sprays, drugs like Chantix or other items that just have never worked properly for most hard core smokers, they obviously don’t like falling revenue, and surely don’t want vaping to succeed either.

Sadly for them all above, it is succeeding. If you have less sick people because smoking is going away, you have less drugs to sell.. It is apparent to these above entities that vaping is taking away their money. I don’t think any of them like it. If their claims keep people smoking, it’s just plausible deniability.


Tobacco Control / Anti-Tobacco

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While I applaud these efforts, I question the integrity.

 A “roadmap”. They want “graphic” labels on packaging. FDA regulation on all tobacco products. Citing Reduction of addictiveness of their products. Citing Increased taxes over time. Tobacco Control (Really, a predictive and pre-emptive need for increasing taxes on cigarettes?) Think that might be because lower sales would deem a need for increased taxes due to sales?)

The most recent item I saw was calling for a ban on vaping by a Tobacco Control Director in California. Not by a medical professional. No doctor. A director of a local tobacco control agency. I checked the LinkedIn site of this person. No medical or scientific degree listed. If I had one, I would certainly list it! What gives this person the right to claim any dangers?

Why would tobacco control want someone to stay away from vaping? Seems counter-productive to me. Traditional smoking cessation tools are not working and obviously higher taxes are not working, education isn’t working – if the education money to steer children and adults away from smoking worked, they wouldn’t have jobs by now. That’s the cold hard cash fact.

The claim of a gateway and using children to smoking from vaping is a fairy tale. Like Santa Claus. It is something with flavors to lure, they claim. Alcohol has flavors. One campaign in California said don’t eat batteries, they could be toxic. Scare tactics for the masses to cling to. I say proper parenting would stop any child from the dangers of anything from electrocution to smoking and that would include vaping.

Vaping sales have been well supported by the industry as an 18 and up deal LONG before anyone mentioned it. Responsible business owners and shops voluntarily follow this already.
That’s a non-issue, no more than age restrictions for any adult product. They still get them, and that blame, if they do, falls directly on the parents, not the taxpayer of the so called and very judgmental “sin-tax”. If their claims keep people smoking, it’s just plausible deniability.


Media:

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Media, with all their power in print, online, and television, they are ultimately responsible for “professional” journalism, yet they’d rather play the hands that pay their bills.

There HAVE been retractions, but very few were loud enough to hear:

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Sensationalism. If their claims, stories and reports from others keep people smoking, it’s just plausible deniability.


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It’s a very incestuous relationship that Tobacco, Pharmaceutical companies, Politicians, Tobacco Control, Health Care, Organizations & the Media created whether directly or indirectly. Planned? I don’t know. Back room deals? Probably. Lobbying from every imaginable group incessantly with? Absolutely without a single doubt in my mind. Quite simply, it is taking away BILLIONS of dollars collectively from all involved above. It’s disrupting CASH FLOW to all of the above involved. That’s the ONLY thing wrong with vaping and they will disguise it any way they want to to get their cash flow back.

I applaud and commend Greg Conley, President of the American Vaping Association (AVA),calling this a disruptive technology.


States, tobacco companies & pharmaceutical companies are losing money. With health care, they are seeing the very idea that people, vaping, are going to be healthier. It’s a pre-emptive strike. That means politicians needed TIME to figure out how to make vaping a tobacco product without upsetting friends of theirs, like donors – tobacco, pharmaceuticals and more. Here’s my fun part. They claim studies, improperly performed, are showing “bad” things.

Well, dear reader, some were CROWD FUNDED BY VAPERS to reveal the truth.

httpvaperinaucanada.blogspot.ca201412dear-public-health-units-across-north.html

Remember http://www.ecigarette-research.org

and there ARE studies readily available here as well.


Being vehemently against what may be THE best tool to stop using tobacco EVER from all of the above involved with whatever means they take is irresponsible, unacceptable and will only lead to more smoking deaths.

I’ll let you ponder why. While you do, question every single story posted, every single story told. Ask vapers what they’ve experienced. I did. I called it the Vaping Truth Survey. Here are the results from people who DO vape. From how long they smoked, to benefits and things that are important for anyone to know when they choose to seek info about it. Responsibility from what should have been doctors and health officials long ago.

People who are doing it know better than anyone. They’ve experienced it. Here are over 7,000 worldwide results from people who do it. The Vaping Truth Survey Final Analysis


Politicians, with great ease are conniving and swaying public opinion, explaining with official sounding terms and media’s help, that it’s dangerous. “We need more time”. “We need more studies”. “We’re not sure”. “Think of the children”. Imagine, 10 years to get to the important moment to saying they’re bad, they should be taxed…to figuring out how to do it. Now they’re trying to do it. Just give it a little more time.

It is clear from any elementary level, that vaping is safer than smoking if you read the studies that others claim do not exist. Vaping quite simply, saves lives.

When it’s over I predict that each camp will claim plausible deniability to the fact that it takes someone from smoking, keeps them from smoking, and keeps all involved from revenue unless it is deemed & taxed like a tobacco product.

Here, the following link is responsibility to the world: Dr. Derek Yach has spoken out.

See what Dr Derek Yach, developer of the World Health Organisation’s Framework Convention on Tobacco Control, has to say.

“Smoking Kills, Nicotine Doesn’t”.

What if they’re claims are right? Well, then we who vape are waiting. We of all people WANT the truth. Think about it. We of all people want to be sure. We already have a few things going for us. We’re certainly going to be around longer. We aren’t going away.
The clear changes in our individual health, our ability to breathe with the ability to break free from smoking.

We also have our steadfast focus on pointing out each discrepancy released. Now they are claiming they don’t know “long term” effects. We do. We just have to be louder. Greg Gutfeld on Fox, you are invaluable to the truth, have taken on all of the above and I thank you from the bottom of my healthier vaping heart.

I will continue to call you out on your lies, I will question the integrity you pretend to have, I will question each and every professional title you may misuse, and I will question each and every sentence you speak ~ and encourage others to do the same. If you have PROOF, and it has been reviewed, I and every person vaping will listen to every word.


Until then, until you have clear and indisputable proof, SHUT your LYING mouths.

Vaping is SAFE. and you who claim differently ARE COSTING LIVES by deterring anyone from doing so.

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Here, added for importance 12/13/15

“Popcorn” lung came up again in the news.

The WONDERFUL folks over at Vapers.Org.UK

released a Special Edition on 12/12/15:

I suggest a tall glass of liquid to hydrate due to the high salt content!

A Bucket Of Popcorn.


 

Here, added 12/12/15 is a graphic explaining things WORLD Wide.

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The graphic above is courtesy a much admired and adored Brainy Furball below:

Infographic demonstrating how our agencies fall victim to regulatory capture, OR, They REALLY NEED us to fall ill and die prematurely through smoking.

 

Speaking of MARGARET Chan

More from Robert Innes:

When Collusion Is Profitable For Parties – All Six of Them!


 

I will not go away.

I will not stop calling you out.

I will not let others be lied to.

I will not stand quietly.

I myself, after all, can claim I have Plausible Deniability, right?

Please. Grow a pair.

Let the questioning and finger pointing continue and begin.

Let the plausible deniability save your careers, you incestuous greedy twits.


 

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Vaping over drugs like Chantix & Zyban & why we need a CHOICE. A vaping rant. Vaping Voices.

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I’ll let you read the article and will leave just a FEW comments from the survey below that and of course my own rant.

Drugs to quit smoking can affect mental and physical health: the truth about Chantix and Zyban

Comments from question # 10: What other methods did you try that didn’t work to stop smoking before you stopped with vaping?


The drugs made me psycho and i still purchased packs of cigs with the patch then i only went three days cold tyrkey before i lost it.


The patch caused skin irritation and nughtmares. The gum caused digestive issues. Cold turkey worked for a short time because I was pregnant. And Chantix caused horrible nausea and nightmares.


Chantix was awful. It messed with how I felt and caused anxiety. Gum def didn’t work. Patch burned my skin, gave me super weird dreams. Vaping, has had no negative side effects.


The patch at any strength was delivering too high nicotine level, therefore, nausea. Zyban helped me cut back, but only for a week or two. I quit cold turkey with all 3 pregnancies because it made me sick. I quit cold turkey for 6 years once didn’t stick.


SEVERELY allergic to Chantix Few times patch worked for a short time ONLY vaping has stopped and kept me stopped from smoking.


My mother has tried everything listed and this year suffered a DVT. She took both Zyban and Chantix. Zyban almost worked, and then she got sick from it. Chantix made her hallucinate, and have violent night terrors, having never had any of those symptoms ever before in her life. She’s still suffering some side effects a year plus after going off the Chantix. She quit smoking with vaping, going from a pack a day to zero, as suggested by her doctor, to save her life. Since quitting she’s gone off her high blood pressure medication and lost weight.


I didn’t try chantix because of the serious side effects


Chantix Makes you nuts. It should be taken off the market




Those were within the first 50 comments – these are just examples, and they weren’t ALL of them in that first 50.

If the article above is not a WORLDWIDE call to you in political charge who want to denounce vaping as an effective and viable alternative to smoking in politics, you all need to reassess the oath of governing office you were elected to uphold. Shame On YOU. You are costing LIVES listening to your lobbyists. Listening to your contributors. Taxes and banning will take people away from what WORKS without danger. Vaping is a viable alternative. Do some research. Be brave. Grow a pair, grow up. You too, ladies in office.The public is waiting. Again, that report says: “more reports of deaths and violence from taking Chantix than any other drug”. When the truth is unclouded, who will you blame for being wrong? Vaping isn’t going away. It’s not smoking. It’s SAFER than smoking. Get on board.


If you’re public health or tobacco control and you’re denouncing vaping – and always without REAL science to back your claims I also suggest you pack your shit and get out of the profession you’re proclaiming you know everything about. Linking false, poorly done & improperly conducted “studies” by Gomer Pyle and Bugs Bunny like your formaldehyde and mice studies – are frankly getting very tiring, yet you enjoy the spotlight of “expertise”. LOVE to publicize the lies. The media is just as responsible. I call the “you DON’T know what you’re talking about” card directly to you, but you continue to snowball the lies to the public without studies of your own. Don’t you have any friends who will stand up to you and tell you – for instance – you have something in your teeth – or you’re WRONG? Are they that afraid of you?

As an example & speaking of “friends”… I’m calling you out, “Professor” Stanton Glantz, Professor of Stupidity – at the UCSF School of Medicine; http://profiles.ucsf.edu/stanton.glantz YOU & the #curbit campaign did nothing but cost lives if ONE person chooses to listen to that campaign you helped co-create by effectively driving them to the above drugs like Chantix or Zyban instead of vaping, and you should be held accountable by hiding behind propaganda & lies. (You couldn’t have thought of all those lies on your OWN, but you sure like to sign your name, Mr. Glantz). Is that why you don’t do your OWN studies? Because you’ll look stupid? Using children because you have no real facts is cute. The “don’t eat batteries” was sort of enjoyable. Bet they talk about that behind your back on campus.

You and all like you, are costing LIVES. You and any other in public health are literally  a disgraceful, disorganized mess and what you proclaim as studies is more irrelevant to vaping and completely untrue by the day. Fact checking your “sources” is highly suggested. Your time has come. Science has already been proving you WRONG. What else do you know you are hiding from? Stop playing games. YOU are costing lives. I say again, LIVES are on the line, and VAPING saves lives.


Please, if you’re in the health profession (or know someone who is), and you’ve read this and ARE making a difference, I thank you. Vapers around the WORLD thank you. Please consider joining the ever-growing list of prominent and important professionals who have already joined the “M.O.V.E.” movement here: https://sciencecig.wordpress.com/move/

Here’s a truthful response to the “mice” referred to above by Dr. Farsalinos, http://www.ecigarette-research.com/web/index.php/whats-new/whatsnew-2015/192-ecig-mice


To the rest of you, keep on #Vaping On.

Kevin.