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Vaping In The News – October 14th, 2017

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As I put this weeks edition together, I pondered all the time and public OUR money wasted over the past 10+ years by experts – tracking tweets, buying media, pretending to do studies and claiming science… Then, I wonder…. what have they tried to accomplish… and what other much more important items they’ve done the same with, or ignored in the process.


Johnson Creek is going out of business ~ Science Lesson ~ Marathon Man ~ Bloomberg ~ Tobacco 21 ~ Teen Cigarette Narcs ~ Doug Teitelbaum ~  Foundation for a smoke-free world ~ Tobacco Free Kids ~ Screaming ~


This is Vaping In The News for the week ending October 14th, 2017


Instead of babbling, I’ll lead off with a spirited tweet from Ann, who I (and others) miss dearly.


Johnson Creek is going out of business

Their statement:

Important! Johnson Creek is going out of business


Science Lesson

One of the best ways to learn is to listen and read. That’s why I like reading Carl’s blog. I don’t always agree with Carl, and that is how I learn.

“Ecigs are a replacement for tobacco products. They are not a replacement for lost tobacco taxes.”

I’ve said this a thousand times.

In this instance, there should be NO tax imposed on vaping products (other than normal sales tax). Period. We agree.

Science Lesson: The Optimal Tax Rate For Vapor Products Is Zero


Marathon Man

Chris Baxter, who I’ve followed over on Twitter:

YES.

Lancaster man vapes his way to marathon success

Related: Jerry Iozzo

Former Smoker Turned Marathon Runner Thanks to Vaping


Bloomberg

Dr. Carrie Wade at the Daily Vaper takes on another big donor of anti-tobacco with reduced risk and research:

Bloomberg School Of Public Health Should Live Up To Mission Statement, Save ‘Millions At A Time’


Tobacco 21

While the public is, you can’t be convinced this will work. You’re too savvy for that.

Tobacco 21 Is a Catch-22


Denver Is Hiring Teen Cigarette Narcs

Where I’ve covered the Synar Amendment and the recreation of the problems here in June of 2017, I made a prediction.

In my (highly acclaimed by me) opinion, as the age of purchase was 18, they are having a difficult time keeping their percentage at acceptable levels, and now want to raise it to 21 to recreate the problem.

Well… imagine my surprise when I read (bold is my emphasis)

“….the department hopes to snag even more vendors, projecting a 23 percent noncompliance rate by the end of 2017.”

Denver Is Hiring Teen Cigarette Narcs

Imagine my surprise from one of my favorite rodents, Phil:

Here’s that breach, including e-cigarettes:

Anne Arundel County tobacco sting finds one in four stores sold tobacco to minors


Doug Teitelbaum

NJOY’s Doug Teitelbaum is Leading a Crusade Against Cigarette Smoking – Don’t Bet Against Him


Foundation for a smoke-free world

Derek Yach
Just so you can see the screams from Matt Myers – it is close enough to Halloween to hear him clearly.

Matt Myers: Philip Morris has a long history of funding what it calls independent research by previously credible researchers


Still Screaming

Another from one of my favorite bloggers, and consider him a friend: Paul:
Next, how PR firms create “dialogue”…

Then:


And…

Former American Cancer Society CEO John Seffrin endorses cancer research venture funded by Philip Morris




Have you met my OUR friends at vapers.org.uk? 

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You can find me here trying to be cordial on Facebook

You can find me here being a bit more evil on Twitter

You can also find me on LinkedIn


Tobacco Harm Reduction For Life

GONZO GIVES




Medical, Research, Science Professionals:

Research:


Politics:

E-Cigarette Politics 

A Billion Lives

A Billion Lives


There is definitely more to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

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Vape Shops. This is your business.

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Photo courtesy Lindsay Fox of Ecigarettereviewed.com

You’re a vape shop owner? Are you saving lives and yourselves? Not afraid of the regulations your industry is under? Are you even aware there are regulations? If not, I’m talking to you. You’re probably already wondering who the hell I am and why I’ve got a chip on my shoulder. Well – let me explain myself and then we can move on from the formalities. I figure that’s only fair.

I’m not “in the industry”. I am however, a consumer. If you feel like I’m not talking to you, then you’re probably a stellar shop owner and are doing everything you can to save this industry, including your own business. As you were.


Don’t get confused, I’m also an advocate for you. Well, not really for you – for people like this lady who you haven’t met yet and about 40 million in the United States like her who may come visit YOU. See, I didn’t open a vape shop. I certainly wanted to in 2013 when I realized I could potentially help others realize what I had accidentally found out. Vaping worked when nothing else did. I say it saved my life. I get that.

I looked at doing so. I did cost analysis, looked at market trends *skyrocketing*, checked a few locations and saw 7 shops already competing within my home town of about 45,000. That itself was saturated. Still, forging ahead, I found wholesalers (NICE markups, eh?), I checked insurance rates – you know – all the things that go into starting a business.

I also gave serious consideration of the unknown FDA regulations coming down the line. I still wanted dearly to do it, but with all those factors, poor credit and having previously closed a business in 2007 – I also understood risk v.s. reward. I decided for my family – at the time, I could not take the risk.


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 Photo courtesy Chris Hughes

Now that the formalities are out of the way, I know you should be THE front line in the battle against every law, restriction, tax and ban any way you can. I’d bet I  know your demographics better than you do. I understand nicotine strength and why it’s not addictive. I know why you’re talking people away from ego style products. I know why you’re selling high end equipment to folks who don’t WANT to blow clouds. I’ll bet I can talk shop about your first time customers as good or better than you can.

I know how you’ll lose business, and bet you the price of a brand new ego 2200 (at cost) that I could bring you more business to your shop. I’ll bet you don’t have a computer in your store to show research to customers when they have questions and I’ll wager your receipts don’t print out & tell customers about CASAA.

I’d venture to say you’re probably not a member of SFATA or the AVA or AEMSA. VTA or any local or state group. I’d bet if you had a sign explaining the FDA regulations we are ALL facing to your customers, they’d be just as pissed off as you are should be, because you’re not allowed by law to do things  to properly help the next smoker who may walk through that door.


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 Photo courtesy Chris Hughes

I’ll bet you’re a former smoker, using +/- 3MG and you’ve got the most expensive rig available. I’ll bet you’re thinking I’m an asshole as you blow clouds at your screen. IF you’re not running e-liquid through your back room or basement, you’d be embarrassed to show me where it is you manufacture it. I’d bet you’ve tossed free shit into a crowd. If I’m describing you, I’ll bet you’re wondering how you can get your hands around my throat. That’s mutual. Save that energy, I’m not quite done yet.

I’ll venture to say you’ve pondered the trademark or intellectual properties covering the e-liquid – but after about 10 seconds, you’ve only run it through your mind a couple other times since. You’ve probably heard of marketing to children but didn’t think it applied to you. I could go on but you’re starting to either feel guilty or relate to who should be feeling guilty as described. We can still be friends, there is hope. Let’s call this a one-time free consulting session. You just need to pay attention. This, after all, is YOUR business.


I take advocacy seriously in my off hours. This is, after all, about lives. You also, regardless of the descriptions above, presumably got into the business to help people as you found it helped you. THAT is where I need your mindset to be right now before we go further. Refill your top, get over yourself. Hydrate. Let’s move on.

You should be able to spout these organizations off without fear or hesitation. You should be a member of at least ONE trade organization. Your customers, because you’re informing THEM as well as you are should be aware and a member of at least one of the consumer organizations. You know, to keep them aware in case you forget.

 


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Sean Gore with Rep. Tom Cole.

Photo courtesy Sean Gore


You should be aware of the Child-resistant packaging rules.

You should know and have met YOUR representative and should be on a first name basis, for everyone’s good by now.

You should know everything there is to know about

Cosponsors: H.R.2058 — 114th Congress (2015-2016)

You should be aware of the thousands of vapers on social media who fight every day and don’t own a business. In fact, on twitter we’re called “shills” and worse, “Big Vapor” or “Big Vaping“…. I forget.

I haven’t even touched the tip of what you need to know. If you’re a vendor and you’ve read this far, I not only commend you – I respect you. See, we can be friends.

You should know who is against you. This, after all, is YOUR business.


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 Photo courtesy Chris Hughes


Some awesome people have made this movie, A Billion Lives. It’s an independent film. On August 6th, I drove from Dayton to Milwaukee to see the U.S. Premier. I’ve SEEN it.

NON-smokers and the PUBLIC need to see it. NOW.

Here’s their latest teaser:

You should know how this documentary, A Billion Lives needs to be seen NOW, by the MILLIONS. You should know how highly I regard Aaron Biebert, A Billion Lives, Attention Era Media, and their teams and families for the sacrifices they’ve made to make this stunning film about our fight worldwide.


You should be organizing a screening or MULTIPLE screenings in YOUR area SPONSORING or co-sponsoring it (with or without other shops) to get your name out, buying blocks of tickets. (You’re still here?) Inviting new customers and smokers.

You should be inviting politicians, the local or closest Heart, Lung & Cancer association representatives in your area. Doctors. Nurses. College professors. Making sense?


I don’t know Fig personally, but I know he fights his ass off.

I don’t know Chris Hughes personally but I know he fought HIS ass off and is STILL fighing.

He’s now decided to seek election to the office of State Representative for the 84th Legislative District of PA.

I hope I’ve been condescending informative enough to get you motivated to act. To fight.

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This, after all, is YOUR business.


E-cigarette news you can use

Every day ~ Monday thru Friday ~ is here from my friends across the pond at Vapers.org.uk.


E-cigarette Research is HERE.

MORE e-cigarette research is also HERE.

If you are a Professional  go HERE.


You can find me here trying to be cordial on Facebook

You can find me here being a bit more evil on Twitter


More to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin


Organizations & Politicians LIE about E-cigs. It’s a business decision.

 

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In the never-ending onslaught of misleadings articles about vaping, this one,  by Maggie Fox  (Senior health writer @NBCNewshealth Science/Health/Tech)  was titled: “E-Cigarettes should be a last resort, heart doctors say“. There is clearly a discrepancy or three in this one. There are no mentions of any heart doctors in the article , instead the title guides the reader straight into the American Heart Association.  It is possible to assume crack staff  writer Maggie may not know the difference between heart doctors and the the AHA? A quick search doesn’t show Nancy Brown is a heart doctor. I could be wrong.


Please continue smoking:

According to the article, the  AHA, evidently, would prefer smokers to keep smoking  – and if you must, only try e-cigarettes as a last resort. CEO at the AHA, Nancy Brown states “the FDA should HURRY UP and regulate them”. We don’t want to dilly-dally  with regulations, do we?  Evidently the Heart Association’s intriguing “last resort” thing is a new POLICY. Those funds won’t just appear in the bank on their own, FDA. Hurry up. Toot-suite. Quick, like a bunny – before the public finds out what organizations and politicians are UP TO.

The comfort level must be almost unbearable with the film A Billion Lives due to be released shortly. Once it’s out, the lies will be exposed, and the public scrutiny of regulations will begin. Chop-chop, FDA. They can’t hold their lying breath forever!

 

Fox takes innuendo to the standard level, eluding to the usual wrong “children” stats (discrepancies are here & here ) while misinforming her readers. There’s the obligatory lie statement from Nancy Brown : “We are fiercely committed to preventing the tobacco industry from addicting another generation of smokers”.  Of course there’s the obligatory lie statement of vaping being a gateway, and nicotine being the root of all evil.

The link in the article – to the lies statement from the American Heart Association – is “not released” and unavailable. So, who are the doctors saying last resort? Brown was quoted in the article, stating “We fear that any additional delay of these new regulations will have real, continuing public health consequences”.

Yes, Nancy Brown, the business decisions you make health consequences are that the public will believe your lies and continue to smoke – since e-cigarettes will be treated the same in your world. Regulation in the form of taxes, is the goal. Remember when LESS smoking was the goal? Milk is not beef, syrup is not wood and nicotine is not tobacco. Deny it all you like, Research does exist, Nancy.


 

The Lung Association.

The Lung Association, headed by National President & CEO Harold Wimmer, has a business decision stance as well.  Out in California, my pal, Senator Mark Leno – after being defeated with SB140 last year, has revamped his effort to have e-cigarettes “accurately defined as tobacco products”. Olivia Gertz – the CEO of California’s chapter of the Lung Association is found here gloating stating she’s “proud to co-sponsor” legislative efforts with her business decision “to increase the state’s dismal national ranking in tobacco taxes“,  where they also mentioned the obligatory youth and health lie statements like above, yet taxes are the goal….

Bear with me as I’ll babble incessantly for your amusement:

Dismal ranking, Olivia? Embarrassed much? You’re worried about appearances? Is this a mirror check? LESS tobacco tax revenue = LESS smoking. That’s from all those vapers NOT smoking. Um, You’re WELCOME? Remember when organizations wanted us to NOT smoke?  Didn’t anyone plan properly for a drop in revenue from the “tobacco control efforts” over time taking the credit? SURPRISE. We’re doing YOUR job as well.


 

Now, as SFATA pointed out, former smokers  who use e-cigarettes – along with the tax in California – and believe me, this will be EVERYWHERE:

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That’s not acceptable.

Sorry, didn’t mean to yell. Who’s in charge? Where is the evidence and science to arbitrarily make things up? WHERE are the leaders? Why aren’t more in “public health” acting like Jim? Who will be the last organization standing? They are lying. They are making business decisions. If they have their way, they both will be. The AHA and the ALA were once well respected organizations within America. They once put their efforts towards helping people stay healthy (and educated, supposedly) in the minds of millions. Now they’re choosing instead to lie recoup millions of dollars in revenue, a day, keeping their business decisions and lies motives at bay to the general public at any cost. Their business decisions are now costing lives.

These (many) organizations who are now placing themselves squarely in the middle of the ring, hell bent on convincing the public they are fighting the good fight on vaping. Their only goal is to L I E to keep pressure on public opinion with the ONLY goal of “regulating” e-cigarettes for the sole purpose of keeping themselves in BUSINESS with tax revenue.

Accountability cannot come soon enough.


 

 

You, as an individual MUST be aware of what’s going on:

Inform yourselves.

casaa.org

vapingmilitia.org

notblowingsmoke.org

http://nomorecasualties.org


 

Your favorite online or brick & mortar retailer MUST be making every effort to keep you COMPLETELY informed of these issues.

If they aren’t a member of a state or national organization FIGHTING for THEIR business, I strongly suggest you find another place to do business.


 

Please, blow social media UP. Tell your non-smoking – non-vaping friends & family members they are being LIED to by these organizations and politicians worldwide.

TELL them about A Billion Lives.



 

I’m also here on Blasting News.

H.R. 2058 is up to now 50 supporters.


 

My challenge to ANY public health professional that nicotine is not addictive on it’s own.


 

E-cigarette Research is HERE.

MORE e-cigarette research is also HERE.

Medical Professionals  go HERE.

MANY Links are to the left and right of this blog! Please see them!

More to come!

Keep ON #Vaping On.

 

Kevin

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

E-cigarette Evidence. Guilty As Charged, The Scream Test.

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Like a crime scene, “experts” are trying to cover up scientific evidence about e-cigarettes. Cleverly disguised with their self-important pseudo-opinions, they publish their assessment long before it has been properly reviewed.

 

Like seasoned criminals, experts are studious at covering up or altering these scientific studies and research to their benefit, not yours. There will be no evidence reviewed unless they say it’s “ok”.

They weren’t invited, in any shape or form, to the scientific portion of the study, most likely because they aren’t qualified to perform it.

That makes them feel inadequate and they must redeem themselves. They feel left out.

Poor things. Bless their hearts.

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It’s quite like public health’s own scream test here, and here.


 

They also really do not like anecdotal evidence. They do not approve. I repeat: They do not approve.

Your anecdotal experience is NOT important to them.

They don’t believe in it, they dissociate themselves from it.

There are experts everywhere, just ask them. It’s popular to be one!

 

How WHO are you to decide for yourself that e-cigarettes are an alternative to smoking? What is WRONG with you? Are you thinking for yourself?

Experts say e-cigarettes are NOT approved methods to STOP SMOKING.

Did you TRY the not so effective approved methods? Did you give your best effort? Have you tried the patch? A quit-line? Counseling. Talking to someone may help. Keep those hands busy.

KEEP TRYING.

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Nothing like tobacco control style guilt to persuade you is there?


 

I consider vapers the experts. Some idiots in the tobacco control industry have decided they are experts. Politicians??? They’re experts? T.V. Doctors!

Well – you would think they were, but they aren’t either.

In their quest for knowledge, you would only believe they would consume themselves by looking without delay, at science and evidence.

You would only think with the best interest of the PUBLIC at hand, experts would consult (and collaborate) with these people as quickly as they could.

 

I’d almost say, without hesitation, experts would seek the advice of people before them, that they would heed the experience of Medical Professionals who had the same doubts and thoughts.


 

You’d also think they would LISTEN to US.

Nahhhh….

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To have respect as a medical, health, or “tobacco control” professional, you should act like one.

You cannot deny the evidence. You cannot ignore the evidence. You cannot make it fit in YOUR box. You cannot pretend it doesn’t exist.

 

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You must either accept it as it is, or as an EXPERT, show why it isn’t working  – proof. I am waiting for the proverbial shoe to drop.

Most experts just want to stomp their feet like children, hoping they get their way, hoping every colleague will agree with their opinion. Get over yourselves.

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 You’re at the bottom of the list.


While I’m at it – here’s a novel thought:

MAKE IT BETTER! Quit bitching and making things up. Instead of antagonizing, FIX IT. What? You don’t want to?


Nope. That’s not what they do. They see a report. Study. Science.

They rub their grubby hands together, and cluck like chickens.

They drop their carcinogen laced coffee as fast as it hits the floor, fling off their lab coats, and prefer to cherry pick. Please, no wagering.

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They have a hypothesis. Opinion. They find key points in one thing and write all about THAT. They then turn that into childish propaganda. They MUST tell the WORLD using any means necessary!

Obviously the goal of this is not to help the world, but to keep their self-serving importance up in their “field” – to boost their popularity -so they don’t become irrelevant !  All much more important than helping the public, or so it seems.



 

Maybe they are SO insecure, afraid of becoming irrelevant, they fling pooh, eat their bananas, and will do what they can to keep smoking around….. nahhh – can’t be.

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Maybe they’re tired of seeing e-cig users doing their job?

That must be it.

 

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They already ignore the science.

They are having a much harder time ignoring US.


 

One recent example of listening, changing his mind, and being responsible in this matter is explained very well here, from Jim McManus.


 

 

When WE as users of this product reduced our tobacco use, regardless of the reason why, and are doing it by the MILLIONS, we must be on to something. You would think, if they REALLY want people off tobacco, they’d listen to the experts. Us.

It’s not like we’re walking around – pretending. Struggling. If it didn’t work, you bet your ass we’d be saying that as well. It doesn’t work for some.

By default, and by design, I’d bet ecigs would be a SOLID 85%+ success rate if “experts” would either SHUT up or admit they work and help those struggling to that end. They don’t want that.

We’ve stopped smoking by choice.

Most will more than likely choose not to listen, I hope you will.



 

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Here are examples of UNEDITED “anecdotal” evidence from the latest survey.

Question #26: Did you notice any POSITIVE health or side effects once you were off tobacco using an e-cigarette?


 

Major health improvements. Chest, breathing, snoring, illness, blood pressure EVERYTHING has improved.
Saturday, Aug 15th 7:13AM


 

I used to have to use two inhailors for environmental asthma…I’m off one completely and rarely have need of the quick response inhailor…Which I used twice a day while smoking, I may have used a half dozen times in the last 4 years…
Thursday, Aug 13th 10:45AM


 

My breathing is considerably improved. I no longer have any asthma. Fewer incidents of apnea while sleeping. Heartrate remains a lot more steady when doing physical activity.
Tuesday, Aug 11th 4:37PM



I don’t cough in the morning anymore. My lungs don’t hurt in the morning. I can breathe easier. Post nasal drip of 15 yrs is gone. I can exercise easier and longer. More energetic.
Friday, Aug 7th 11:29AM


I have not had 1 bout of bronchitis since I have quit cig and started Vaping. 2 1/2 years. All my Drs seem to think its ok. Pulmonologist, heart and primary.
Monday, Aug 3rd 6:28PM


It hasn’t been long for me yet but I noticed the difference right away. The biggest thing for me though was learning I had a “smoking problem” not a “high blood pressure problem” as that went right straight to normal right away!
Sunday, Aug 2nd 8:00PM



Ankylosing spondylitis sufferer for 15+years. All pain has gone. I am back to gym and getting fitter by the day
Sunday, Aug 2nd 6:40PM


My chronic cough that I had for over 10 years went away and never came back within 3 days!!!
Sunday, Aug 2nd 10:08AM


Blood Pressure is back to normal, no coughing, better breathing, greater energy, I now run 2 miles a day.
Saturday, Aug 1st 8:16PM


Increased lung function. I have COPD and this is now stabilized with better blood oxygenation than when I still smoked. This improvement has been documented in clinical notes and
has been maintained for over 4 years.
Saturday, Aug 1st 6:35PM


I had chronic bronchitis for over 16 years and it is gone now. I was afraid to laugh as it would send me into fits of hacking coughing. I laugh a lot now. I run with my grandchildren instead of being afraid to play for the coughing.
Saturday, Aug 1st 5:59PM


was able to discontinue two prescription drugs, cholesterol levels dropped by 50 points, used to need antibiotics for respiratory/sinus infections at least 4 times a year, since vaping I’ve been sick once.
Saturday, Aug 1st 5:18PM


I couldn’t walk up the four flights of stairs at home without breaking a sweat before i quit cigarettes and after two months after changing to a vape-mod i ran up the stairs without breaking a sweat. Now after two years I just ran half a marathon in just over two hours!
Saturday, Aug 1st 4:02PM


Breathing improved, high cholesterol went away, started exercising, lost over 70#, thirsty so I drink water constantly, lost weight lowered blood pressure, better performance sexually, enjoy healthy foods, use less salt, list is endless.
Saturday, Aug 1st 4:34PM


 

Here’s a hundred more similar to the above testimonials – from the first survey: Who’s hiding the truth?

More anecdotal evidence from the first survey: I can breathe again.

Despite the experts, vapers are claiming  Side Effects !

Are you a Journalist? Please, Go here.

 


 

Are you wondering why there is so much

controversy over e-cigarettes?

Watch this:

Some controversy in itself, created some controversy of its own from this clip.

Simon Clark:  A Billion Comments

Dick Puddlecoat: A Billion Lives – My Take

Facts Do Matter: A Billion Lives Guest Post

My own comments:

I thought the comment the director made in question in a 7-8 second glimpse was actually a part of the bigger picture, pointing out the irony of lies. (*Just what you said, Paul, context). I thought it was taken out of a larger scene… no more no less. I didn’t give it a second thought until…. then somewhere I tweeted them to put pooh smells in the theaters when they’re lying scenes – and roses when they’re not… just as a joke.

The 3+ minute glimpse into this film is absolutely astounding. I agree with Mark below, there WILL be resistance on this film. There will also be opportunity. Pointing out the statement was far from my mind until someone pointed it out. In my eyes, the very thought of ripping this film up for one statement?

Maybe I should have a “shirt burning” once it comes in to gain attention? I think NOT.

I hope it was politely asked if it can be fixed/edited – or did we all just start yelling? I’ll use the word of my U.K. twitter & facebook friends… utter bullocks. I continue to stand with this film and this team. I will wear my shirt with pride. I am also one of #ABillionLives.

This project as a whole is something to look very forward to. I appreciate someone having the balls to do this. It will open some eyes.

Shannon, you said it best. We owe them everything.


 



 

“Popcorn” lung came up again in the news.

I suggest a tall glass of liquid to hydrate due to the high salt content!

The WONDERFUL folks over at Vapers.Org.UK

released a Special Edition on 12/12/15:

I suggest a tall glass of liquid to hydrate due to the high salt content!

A Bucket Of Popcorn.



 

Recent posts:

Stop Smoking. The Monkey On Your Back.

E-Cigarettes, Long Term Risks & Health Implications

Nicotine Addiction. Smoking, E-cigarettes & YOU.

 


 

E-cigarette Research is HERE.

MORE e-cigarette research is also HERE.


 Medical Professionals  go HERE.


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Keep On #Vaping On.

More to come!

 Kevin.

Toxic Media. E-Cigarettes And Journalism.

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Journalists. They spit out low quality fairy tales as fast as an e-cigarette study hits their untrained eye. Such articles give one an eye-opening glimpse into the many “amateur hour” hacks pretending to be “writers” there really are.

What a BUNCH of kumquats. I would be embarrassed to attach my name on  such a lack of “efforts” in “journalism” I’ve seen. I can only refer to the skill in which these articles were written as piss-poor. Most of these reek of the kind of stench you find in a port-a-john in a late summer fair full of experts.

With all the articles I see on e-cigarettes in a given week from the “press” and “reliable sources”, MOST are written as if they were made up by the half-assed skill of an 11 year old child. Still, after all this time e-cigarettes have been on the market, most journalists show very little fact checking skills and write about them with little to no knowledge of e-cigarettes.

The problem is, those who don’t know better…

may believe them.

These are irresponsible and unacceptable misinformation machines.

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Media today can barely put a comprehensive report out on e-cigarettes without sensationalism. They boldly publish and promote false statements and outright lies without apologies, without evidence, without integrity. There is evidently no pride lost in slinging their feces…

They squealed about “formaldehyde”, which was false, but very few put forth any effort to type about Public Health England?

 


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I am an amateur blogger. I’m not a professional writer, yet I put most of you to shame (both sides of this blog and previous posts for PLENTY of content) with proper information for a smoker contemplating e-cigarettes and what they need to know.

Sadly, I write better than most of you, and I’m not a writer by profession. Most of you proudly show lack of intelligence with each new “story”. See – that’s the thing, most of you are just telling stories. You’re specializing in e-cigarettes. E-cigarette fiction writers. Almost ass-hat like.

Am I being condescending? Yes, yes I am. Patronizing? Fine, if that’s how you feel. Some of you refer to e-cigarettes as smoking, so….we’re not on the same page. Work on that.


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Some reporters are obviously too stupid or unable to put two sentences together coherently, they string a reader along by almost always starting off by describing an e-cigarette. Most of it is “expert copy & paste skills” from what I see. Regurgitating the same thing over and over and over again…. each article seems to have a theme.


 

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Requirements, evidently, for being a piss-poor journalist:

Mention gateways and children, but rarely mention “the children“.

Mention flavors, but rarely mention that “adults like flavors”.

Mention nicotine is addictive but never mention “nicotine“.

Mention approved methods, but don’t show “those methods aren’t as successful“.

Mention chemicals, but rarely mention “Chemicals“.

Mention health benefits, but never mention “health benefits

Mention we don’t know enough, but never mention that “Research is available here and here.”.

Mention laws, taxes & bans using the above descriptions but NEVER mention the truth on “Regulations, Restrictions, Taxes, Bans“.

Mention experts are on the fence about e-cigarettes, but have never talked to people on or  along “experts on this side of that fence“.

They almost NEVER mention reaching out to talk to ANY organization.


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Research, in journalism  – or at least this type of journalism isn’t acceptable to the public.

They rarely retract a story, when they do it’s barely mentioned in unrelated news or withOUT fanfare like the original story was bled to death.

Almost incessantly they will either allow comments until they don’t like them, will not allow certain comments, will delete them all or not allow them to begin with.


 

They LOVE exploding batteries. Here’s Christopher Russell on that:

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Update on a 2nd one from Christoper Russell:

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These wannabe’s take objectivity out, add in a five-gallon bucket of drivel, DON’T check facts, add in their own stupidity and use scary words like toxins – and makes a half-assed story go full ass.


 

One of the consequences of *#DailyPropaganda:

(*Thank you, Alan)

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According to Wikipedia-(a source evidently not concerned with standards in facts):

Journalism has developed a variety of ethics and standards. While objectivity and a lack of bias are of primary concern and importance, more liberal types of journalism, such as advocacy journalism and activism, intentionally adopt a non-objective viewpoint. This has become more prevalent with the advent of social media and blogs, as well as other platforms that are used to manipulate or sway social and political opinions and policies. These platforms often project extreme bias, as “sources” are not always held accountable or considered necessary in order to produce a written, televised or otherwise “published” end product.

 

Fergus Mason has his view of

Wikipedia, and why it matters.

 


 

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Please, keep in mind  -whether you are the largest major news corporation, or the smallest, I AM talking to YOU.

Do as you wish, “journalists”. Follow the pack, parasites. Keep going with  your “hard-hitting” fluff that your friends admire. You must be proud of that degree in typing.


“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

~Joseph Goebbels

There’s something controversial coming soon. It’s going to sting. This information you’re going to see in this trailer isn’t a secret. It may show that you are truly inept at research, that you are unwilling or unable to use your alleged education in journalism, or you’re just plain stupid. This could have been your story.

You, and all who have “Plausible Deniability” or who are “experts in tobacco control” might want to be attentive to this video from A Billion Lives.

It is a documentary about lies. Media, Government, Pharmaceuticals, Health and more. You know… all of you who should be paying attention instead of lying your full asses off…. or you may get dishonorable mention in this.

 


 

Here are just some of the unedited comments  “Real People ~ Real Answers” from the latest survey, unedited on question #34:

What is your opinion on reports you’ve seen in the media ?


DailyPropaganda

Tired of seeing ‘know nothing asshats’ pretending to be experts on vaping.
Tuesday, Oct 6th 5:24AM


 

A lot of media coverage on this is made by people who have not done their research.
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 8:18AM


 

It’s a mix in the UK these days
Wednesday, Sep 9th 12:29AM


 

Media used to relay the facts, today they only care about what sells. They have clearly taken a side before any interviews have started, some have affiliations with other companies or political views and stick to that no matter what truth is presented to them.

The honest truth should be shown on ALL media outlets, they should not be allowed to have a bias in any direction, the facts are what are important.
Sunday, Aug 16th 3:11AM


 

I tend to look for articles on ecigs and see many that talk about benefits and share them with others, but my sources are usually ecig positive, and I ignore the negative media reports from outside my sphere.
Saturday, Aug 8th 3:07PM


 

It seems hard to find legit studies and information that prove or disprove anything. More independent studies from sources that are not affiliated with smoking or vaping would be nice to see.
Sunday, Aug 2nd 8:00PM


 

The reports filled with blatant lies against vapor products were making me angry, so I stopped reading/watching them.
Those that are lying should be held responsible.
Saturday, Aug 1st 7:59PM


 

i find the media headlines negative aspects of vaping and e cigarettes way over the top. E cigarette and battery fires, exploding batteries etc are usually due to lack of knowledge and misuse.  Any battery powered device can a do explode, set on fire etc, but the media don’t report these instances the same way they do with e cigarettes.
Friday, Jul 31st 6:56PM


 

The amount of biased/ill informed propaganda circulating both in media and on social network is, in my opinion, disgraceful!
Thursday, Jul 30th 2:03PM


 

To the last point “I’ve seen more experts than can possibly exist” it’s more like “experts”. People who let others think they know what they are talking about
Wednesday, Jul 29th 9:50AM


 

I have seen news which are made up to make e cig sounds bad, but truly it has nothing to do with e cig.
Tuesday, Jul 28th 3:02PM


 

The media know fuck all and need to a few lessons in vaping!
Monday, Jul 27th 12:59PM


 

i have seen and heard way too many lies by people who are “experts” saying that its bad and targeting kids. i want them to support vaping rather than trying to get rid of the only actual effective way to quit smoking
Sunday, Jul 26th 4:30PM


 

most of the reports are outrageous and test the vaping device at levels that no person would actually use it at, because at those levels you no longer have the actual taste of the e liquid you have nothing but a burnt taste
Sunday, Jul 26th 1:11AM


 The never ending saga of a biased media and their sheeple.
Saturday, Jul 25th 11:55AM


 

its unballanced and there is too much scaremungering going on from very ignorant people
Wednesday, Jul 22nd 8:47AM


 

Big tobacco money talks
Tuesday, Jul 21st 11:52AM


 

It is very confusing trying to figure out what is information from real studies or reliable sources as opposed to what is made up on a non fact based opinion. That goes for both positive and negative information. I have stopped reading anything because I don’t know what to trust is from an accurate source
Sunday, Jul 19th 10:45AM


 

It seems only the sensationalist, biased reports get the big headlines!
Sunday, Jul 19th 11:12AM


 

The media is attracted to negative stories.

From memory, there are 10 million smokers in the UK and 2.6M vapers. Of the vapers about 1M don’t dual use. I’m sure there’s plenty that don’t do either now. There needs to be a Panorama-type program to tell the good news truth about vaping and the money and power behind FDA and EU bans.
Wednesday, Jul 15th 6:33PM


The propaganda is profoundly intellectually dishonest & scientifically incorrect.
Wednesday, Jul 15th 9:37AM


 

Most of what is out there is propoganda and when there is the side of vaping shown (pro vaping) it is far too often denounced. There are reports that show vaping honesty but they are few and far between because the govt does not want vaping to be seen as a good thing
Monday, Jul 13th 4:45PM


 

Junk science that is published them later pulled is stupid and irresponsable once it’s out there people believe it’s gotta be true when it isn’t
Monday, Jul 13th 2:11PM


 

There a a few unbiased reports out there, but most are fear-mongering.
Monday, Jul 13th 1:27PM


 

In the UK, I’ve seen both positive and negative coverage. But in the US it’s much worse, probably because of those vested interests. I do object to pharma companies putting signs in GPs offices saying ‘Don’t vape, stop smoking for good’ as it’s likely to put people off vaping. Vaping can save lives so why tell people not to do it? Insane.
Monday, Jul 13th 11:54AM


 

Heard some ridiculous stories. Battery safety is down to users, same as of you use a mobile phone, I have yet to meet anyone who has had anything more than a slight reaction to the pg. They simply used a Lewis worth more vg.

Monday, Jul 13th 3:30AM


 

Much of the media coverage (print and broadcast) reminds me of reports from the 80s and 90s suggesting that violent video games, television and rock music were responsible for teenagers committing serious crimes. Responsibility is being thrust on industry, rather than on parents, which is borderline atrocious

Sunday, Jul 12th 5:12PM


 

Very seldom do I see fair balanced reporting on the subject and when I see articles they are usually biased and slanted against Vaping and are chock full of misinformation and propaganda. The only fair and balanced information I have seen have been from the vaping industry itself.

Sunday, Jul 12th 2:33PM


 

This is true of a lot of the reports on the news, but I have seen lots of good studies done by professionals based on REAL SCIENCE and accurate reporting standards. I would never say vaping is 100% safe, but some of the reports on the news are just irresponsible and dissuade people from switching from stinkies, when they aren’t even true.

Sunday, Jul 12th 2:15PM


 

The real issue is the indoctrination the media has both received and repeated for the last 50 years from anti-smoking lobbies. It is because of this that all consumer nicotine products are demonized, regardless of potential benefit.

Saturday, Jul 11th 6:43PM


 

There have been both sides of reports on vaping, depends on who is making the statement in the perticular article, I’m sure there will be debates for quite some time, I could care less, I smoked about 40 years , now I vape, I think it was a smart choice for me, I’m not concerned about health issues cause it can’t be worse than smoking, either way I’m apparently not going to live for ever , I’m pretty smart, smart enough to try vaping and get off cigarettes.

Saturday, Jul 11th 2:57AM


 

The impact of what is reported is much more detrimental to those who don’t know any better or TRUST the media.

 

That’s why I’m here.

If I had relied on media reports for information I would have been too concerned with the long term safety of e-cigarette use to try them and I would still be smoking today.

From New York, this individual’s complete response to this survey is here.



“Popcorn” lung came up again in the news.

I suggest a tall glass of liquid to hydrate due to the high salt

The WONDERFUL folks over at Vapers.Org.UK

released a Special Edition on 12/12/15:

I suggest a tall glass of liquid to hydrate due to the high salt content!

A Bucket Of Popcorn.



The FDA has deeming regulations in progress at the moment.

Go here and do something about that.

Then go here as well.



E-cigarette Research is HERE.

MORE e-cigarette research is also HERE.


 Medical Professionals at MOVE are HERE.


Always a work in progress-

please visit my website here.

More to come!

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin.


Pounding Sand. I am proudly a guest on @vapemestoopid!

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Pounding Sand – Guest blog by

@Vapingit with Commentary by VMS

Kevin and I got to talking a couple days ago and we came up with this crazy confusing idea because we were both thinking about blogging on pretty much the same things. Instead of us both blogging on our respective sites, I asked Kevin if he’d like to do a dual blog post with me. He writes his initial blog and I respond with my 2 cents. You end up with 2 small time advocates views and opinions on pretty much the same subjects, but it’s a dialogue and not just one sided. My responses will be in purple and bold.

Kevin: A couple weeks ago, there was a vaping meet in New Jersey. If you’re reading this, you probably already know there was no vaping allowed.

VMS: I am still completely baffled as to why anyone would organize an event in a state with a public vaping ban. It makes no sense whatsoever!

Kevin: I’m a non-scientific kind of guy. I had a back & forth on a thought months ago with another person I respect via email –  We, I don’t remember who “thought” of it, but we were discussing what else we could DO to benefit our cause. That conversation turned to me attending a vape meet, and one of us said – what a great place to monitor the air!

A vape meet would be the PERFECT place. Stick some monitors up on booths. Put some on the entry/exit signs. Don’t even tell anyone. Just do it, lets find out what’s in the air, good or bad. By good or bad, I mean GOOD or BAD.

VMS: I too thought this was a great idea and I still do. Just like when Dr. Farsalinos tested e-liquid for diacetyl content the results were largely NOT in our favour as a community or an industry. I still find it upsetting that this information, up until recently, has been ignored by some of our leading e-liquid manufacturers. It took Five Pawns being outed by Cloud 9 for their diacetyl and AP levels to get companies to start making a change. Why the delay when we have had clear NEGATIVE evidence that this problem existed? 

Kevin: Well, with the Jersey thing this weekend, someone on a facebook group said something about the Health Department missing a great opportunity to do just that. I agreed. It went to twitter, I tagged Carl Phillips, Chief Scientific Officer at CASAA
where I was told:

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Well, maybe it’s me, but that seemed condescending. Again, I’m not a scientist, more of a lover of vape. I intentionally don’t want to find out it violates OSHA standards, I want to find out that it doesn’t. Come down to my level a moment.

That felt at a first GlANTZ that I was being told to pound sand – aaand I digress. I played stupid, but don’t understand.

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But there’s this, *Carl from you in June *I’m a huge fan!) :
http://antithrlies.com/2015/06/03/notes-from-the-fda-e-cigarette-workshop/

VMS: Carl is a difficult one. The limited communication I have had with him through twitter has always been swift and to the point. At times, it felt harsh. I’m not sure if this is just down to it being social media and an inability to convey emotion through 140 characters or just the way it comes across. No matter, really. Carl is a great asset to the cause.


Back to Farsalinos diacetyl study. I am prepared to accept negative results. Results that can create a positive change. If we find out that the air quality at large events like this is really bad for us, then that only serves for us to improve the way we conduct these events. If we are going to keep claiming that our vaper in small quantity is harmless to bystanders and ourselves, then we should know what it is doing to us and bystanders on a larger scale.


Kevin: On Facebook, it was handled a bit differently.

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Kevin: For better or worse, why HASN’T it been done? Why NOT? I’m still, even after the few paragraphs you’ve read, not a scientist. Let say out in Sunny California, there was, or will be a meet. Someone REALLY wants to do this on the anti-vaping side of our lives. THEY get the information and plaster it all over the news on the worst possible outcomes. Yes… and we’re sitting ducks. Trying to chase the truth down between their propaganda and lies like the old familiar formaldehyde stupidity.

VMS: So maybe an air test at a vape meet isn’t a great idea but a large indoor air study IS. Let’s encourage companies to put money towards a controlled large scale indoor air study then? We see how quick some of them are to support campaigns like #NotBlowingSmoke, so maybe we can get them to support some more research too? My biggest concern is that someone like Glantz who has the money available to him, will get this done before WE do. We all know how people like him would spin the data and the nano-particles. Why can’t we be on the offensive for once in this game?

Kevin: How the valuable resources were attained to debunk the formaldehyde scare are beyond me. Time and money. So, it leads ME to believe we should proactively take any sensible suggestion – *I thought it was a sensible thought* – and go with it to have it in OUR hands. Both for the vaper and anyone else.  Proactively. That’s my thought.

This study found on Vape About It concludes:
“…new study published in the Dec. 2014 issue of Regulatory Toxicology and Pharmacology found conclusive data that the vapor emitted from e-cigs and personal vapor devices is non-toxic. In other words, vaping is safe.”

They do this at ice rinks.
They do this at indoor motor-cross events.

Among other things, if it is already deemed “safe” and the second/third hand studies were also debunked, why NOT go all out at a vape meet, or at least a good Saturday afternoon at a large scale Brick & Mortar? Why NOT?

VMS: I don’t see a good enough reason why not. “Handing the ANTZ” ammunition isn’t a good enough excuse anymore. If we don’t tackle and combat it before they do, then they surely have all the ammunition they need. “They had the opportunity to test it, but all they care about is getting you addicted to nicotine and not about the safety of the product.” We already have this fight on our hands. It doesn’t matter what move we make as long as we are always on the defensive. I have the utmost respect for Carl and Greg both, but I simply don’t agree with burying our heads in the sand. As a vaper and a consumer that supports AVA and CASAA, I was disappointed by both of their responses, but can also understand where they are coming from. I do think that this is something that needs further discussion by the “heads” of our community though and should not be ignored or passed off as being another silly idea.


Kevin: It probably has been done and there was no conclusive evidence to it being “bad”… or they’d have pounded us with it, or it really hasn’t been done to a “vape meet arena scale”.

SO, why NOT? Well, if arenas are too big why not do it at a weekend full vape shop. Lets put it to the test. Lets FIND out what is in it. Anyone reading this who’s in the environmental field got an idea as to how?

So, what are we hiding? If it hasn’t been done by us, shame on us. If it’s been done by “Glantz” or some other anti, they’d be ALL over it if it were bad. Just like the “aiming at children” packaging, nobody wants to bring THAT up until recently. Sadly, it’s been being brought up for some time. Why not get ahead of it? Why WAIT until we’re sideswiped by a big ANTZ truck full of what they WANT to tell us. If we’re not LEADING this industry in research, we’re all pounding sand.

VMS: Again, I have to agree here. We need to be on the ball and get on the offensive. No data is bad data, bad data is bad data, but GOOD data even if it has BAD results, can be improved upon. Also, to be fair, I don’t think the community is really hiding anything, I think some of us are just more reluctant in wanting to KNOW. Does that make sense?


Kevin: I do “what I can” to support and advocate. Sometimes I’m spot on, sometimes I’m out of line.
I DO what I can. I don’t like waiting, I like action. I don’t like being told to shut up. I don’t like being told “don’t talk about that”. I don’t like being suppressed. This is TOO frigging important.

VMS: I had an entire blog written up and dedicated to this subject. The “little advocates” compared to the big advocates. I haven’t published it yet because it’s mostly me getting really frustrated and angry.

Lately though, I have seen too many “that’s silly” “we can’t do that” “don’t do that” “been there done that it didn’t work” “why didn’t you run this past me first” and the one I hate the most, “let us deal with it”.

I have watched every day people, those working as a cashier or a stay at home mom, who want to get involved in advocacy, who are trying their best with what little they know, get told they’re basically a nuisance, that they’re in the way, and incapable of coming up with any good ideas that support the cause.

This treatment of the “little advocates” is unacceptable in my opinion. Us little people with tiny voices and a lack of experience put a lot of these people on point as our front men & women and those people accepted that responsibility. With that responsibility should come the decency to treat us “little advocates” with patience and respect. If we don’t deserve that at the very least…

Know what I think? Screw them. No one in this industry, any company or another advocate tells me what I can and can’t do and none of you should let them tell you either. Suggestions are great, advice is amazing, but if they shoot you down and make you feel like a fool, fuck them. Find someone/something else to put your support in and don’t let it defeat your purpose!

If your message is STRONG, if it can be backed up by evidence and you are prepared to defend your message, then go for it! Either people will pay attention or they won’t. Do NOT let anyone in this community tell you that your THOUGHTS or IDEAS or EFFORTS to protect this product are ‘not good enough”. 

 


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Kevin: I will do what Dr. Farsalinos said above, at any cost, including questioning integrity.

VMS: In the last 6 months I have watched many people change their stance on what to fight and what not to fight. 3 months ago, letting companies know that we thought their kid friendly logos were bad, was a GOOD idea and was ENCOURAGED. Now? It’s “who cares?” “this is an adult product being sold to adults in an adult store.” Funny that because 3 months ago that’s not what I was hearing. Reminder, the ANTZ are still attacking child friendly branding, it is still a problem and it is one that our community CAN CHANGE. Put your money where your mouth is. Tell these companies you don’t like their branding, why you don’t approve of it, and then endeavor to buy products from other companies who clearly care about protecting this product.

It’s the same thing with the Diacetyl and AP issues. Here in the UK and Canada, measures were taken to remove products from sale that contained levels that were deemed unsafe, yet the US has kind of just ignored it.  This is another incident where I read that we should just be quiet about it and let other people deal with it in in private and away from the public. Erm. No.

If a company is playing Russian Roulette with my health, I am not going to sit here and let them get away with it while I’m told to shut up and let other more experienced people deal with it…behind closed doors where we (the public) have no idea what’s being done to correct theses issues! Uh uh. Not happening. Same as above, tell a company you don’t like their test results and move to a brand that has results YOU are happy with.


Kevin: I also believe this:

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VMS: One voice may be small and quiet, but when we put all our voices together, we become loud and thunderous.


 

On an inspirational tweet, I created this. We’ve got petitions.

E-cigarette & Vaping Petitions Worldwide

Profile photo of GuestBlogger

Guest Blogger Account here on the VMS Website. If you would like to post an opinion piece, please click on the SUBMIT POST link found in the websites navigation menu. We love to hear and share your opinions about vaping, the politics involved, as well as reviews of your new vaporizers!Opinions expressed by guest bloggers may not necessarily be the same held by this websites owner or other authors on this site.


This blog was left intact – I copied/pasted it on this blog above.

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UPDATE November 2015:

VapeCons: E-cigarette user conventions

conclusion

 

Update February 2016:

Look what happened months after this blog:

 

Clive Bates:

Public health snoopers detect vapour aerosol at vape conference and fake a particulates scare

The original is here Pounding sand: Guest blog @vapingit: Commentary by VMS

Please GO see her!!! Vape Me Stoopid!


Science & Research as mentioned above here!

Medical Professionals at M.O.V.E. here!


As always,

Keep On #Vaping On~

Kevin.


Merchant Of Doubt. Creator of Doom. Professor of Tobacco Control, Stanton Glantz.

glantzzzzzzzzzzzz With so many controversies over e-cigarettes & vaping, now approaching is the pending possibility of regulating e-cigarettes and other forms of tobacco by the F.D.A, along with the their accepting comments from the public for it’s “deeming legislation”, and there are suddenly many “experts”. Enter Stanton Glantz..


Glantz has a background in tobacco control. You said in 1990 addiction helps people like you pay mortgages…. and in 1992, you stated “if the answer is yes, then we do it, and if the answer is I don’t know, then we don’t bother. That’s the criteria……. for research… wow…. Go ahead, click on it. tobacco2


Some experts are popping up like dandelions in your fresh spring lawn in the arenas of public health, TV doctors, reporters, politicians, even people with no degrees at all… and people in tobacco control against e-cigarettes. Stan has been around awhile. Glantz has a background in tobacco control. It would seem obvious that any professor in tobacco control would see the benefits in using an e-cigarette as a viable way to reduce harm that, if the person chose to get off tobacco for good, a professor would be in favor of just that. That way, an alleged leader in tobacco “control” would have in essence, controlled said use of tobacco. Well, that’s not really the way it is at least out in sunny California.


Stanton Glantz, with his title of PhD and “Professor of Medicine” “Professor of Tobacco Control” (Is that a real title?) is more about “control”. A Professor of doubt, a creator of doom. Seemingly, Glantz is “all powerful and all knowing”, kind of like the wizard of odd. As a “Merchant of Doom” in a smoke filled tobacco world, he’s an expert at pretending there is no research with e-cigarettes, that there’s no results. You’d think with a PhD. , and millions of dollars in funding at his fingertips at the University of California, San Francisco, he’d have defeated tobacco by now, wouldn’t you? You’d think with all that funding from trusting people, there would be nothing but fact and truth coming out of someone’s mouth holding such a prestigious position. You’d think. Stan just posted a blog. Stan likes control. Remember how his attitude was before: “if the answer is yes, then we do it, and if the answer is I don’t know, then we don’t bother. That’s the criteria……. for research… so how different has that become years later???


No bias here………….

http://cleanairquality.blogspot.co.uk/2008/01/stanton-glantzs-400000-funding-from.html?m=1

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I will give my rebuttle in italics and bold on his blog post below on the statements from Stan’s recent blog post he “considers” with his opinion. Remember, he’s a researcher, but science, fact & opinion seem to confuse him in an uncanny way. He seem to glide seamlessly and effortlessly with his words, craftily designed like he might actually be an English teacher, but I think not. His title & a link to it if you desire to read it on it’s own. Love the “(almost)” in his title… he needs to brush it up, like I will his post.


A sensible plan for effective FDA regulation of e-cigarette marketing (almost) now http://tobacco.ucsf.edu/sensible-plan-effective-fda-regulation-e-cigarette-marketing-almost-now Submitted by sglantz on Tue, 2015-03-17 12:58 Eric Lindblom, who headed the Office of Policy in the FDA Center for Tobacco Products and is now on detail at the Georgetown University School of Law, just published “Effectively Regulating E-Cigarettes and Their Advertising— and the First Amendment” in Food and Drug Law Journal. This paper is the an amazingly creative and incisive analysis of how to get out-of-control e-cigarette marketing under control as soon as the FDA achieves authority to regulate e-cigarettes.


You make an astonishing and asinine assumption of the “e-cigarette marketing being “out of control” and I find it a creative and incisive analysis… good for you Stan…. you have tried to come up with one of your own recently? You must watch a LOT of television and see a load of print ads… The part where you say “as soon as the FDA achieves authority to regulate e-cigarettes”…. that may happen, I’m not sure, but you seem to know they will. That’s pretty arrogant. Let’s continue, shall we?


Lindbloom notes that there are two possible justifications for allowing e-cigarettes on the market:


I, along with millions, only need one justification, getting myself off cigarettes. It worked flawlessly.


1. The might help current smokers quit cigarettes. 2. The might be an effective harm reduction strategy for current smokers.


“might, according to Lindbloom, is a questionable statement. He obviously listens to you. They DO help current smokers quit. “might be effective harm reduction”…. isn’t that what ANY tobacco control professor wants? People OFF tobacco?


He notes that there are several ways in which e-cigarettes could result in increased harm:


((“could” and “increased harm”)). Really? No science to back yourself up, Stan? No studies to point to or link? Ironically, being a researcher, you have no research on your part…. man that was SO disappointing you didn’t even try. Well… you’re wrong about ‘increased harm”, Stan- there are PLENTY of studies by real researchers, doctors, scientists even, stating there is significantly LESS harm, considering it’s not combustible tobacco, but you’re the expert? Researchers (what you claim to be?) Scientists & Doctors have done plenty of research and you simply insult them – your colleagues in the field – by saying there isn’t any: E-Cigarette Research (http://www.ecigalternative.com/ecigarette-studies-research.htm))) You also tried to create a false sense of harm in your #curbit campaign. Denying the above research and keeping people on cigarettes. Is that your goal, Stan? Continued funding and job security???


Your proud moment in the #curbit campaign on Twitter, claiming toxic vapor, that e-cigs are cigarettes, and frankly misleading anyone into thinking they would be educated is ironic: S4


1. Kids who would not otherwise have smoked addicts start using e-cigarettes. 2. Former smokers take up e-cigarettes. 3. Former smokers relapse to smoking cigarettes again.


Face it Stan…. I’m calling you out on the “kids” thing. Children is a ploy Stan. It’s a catch all “doom” statement because you have nothing else. If all your work on tobacco control all these years was working like you profess it, then there would be no children SMOKING.  See Gate? No Way! here: Gate? No Way! (Thank you Mr. Zillitron). Former smokers “taking up” e-cigarettes (Adults with choices) would keep them from and OFF combustible tobacco. (Your life’s work and goal?) Former smokers relapse on other forms of smoking cessation-quite a BIT more. Either way, they’re off tobacco… still not getting it are you, and again, you’re a researcher?


While the first two points about the potential benefits of e-cigarettes are controversial,


Not to people wanting a choice to be off of combustible tobacco in a design that works effectively, it’s not “controversial”… just to you, Stan. the last three are not. Indeed, the major challenge to e-cigarette enthusiasts is how to craft a policy/regulatory environment in which the possible benefits of e-cigarettes can occur without the collateral damage of promoting increased nicotine addiction in never or former smokers.


Your assumption with the word “possible” astounds me. Are you for it or against it? “Collateral damage”? Nicotine is something else you need to research, Stan. I thought you were a RESEARCHER! Here, buddy, here’s just one link to nicotine, I don’t want to burden you with too much information at once but would like to point out that this link is from a TOBACCO HARM REDUCTION SITE in case your assistants can’t be with you to help you see it: Nicotine FAQ’s http://tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq/nicotine.htm Please note that some people not only reduce their nicotine by choice, some go as far as to use NO nicotine! I know – it’s such a surprise! Their thought is that nicotine itself is dangerous in this form comes from people like you. I can’t imagine you need to know this, yet I need to be sure we’re clear on this: The carcinogens and chemicals in tobacco from combustion of said chemicals are what is dangerous in cigarette smoking, not the nicotine.


Lindbloom presents a sensible and practical solution: Limit e-cigarette advertising and promotion to highly targeted direct-to-consumer contact materials that only go to confirmed current smokers.


Ummmm what??? Are you nuts? You want to support a “sensible and practical” solution? Are you turning the tide on your stance, Gl  ANTZ?


This is something that companies can do given their databases of current smokers.


Well, Stan, are you contributing your cash to do this? Try another #curbit campaign, that did wonders. This is something you could have done in promoting e-cigarettes rather than pretending there’s no research.


This highly focused advertising would get e-cigarette advertisements out of mass media (including the internet) and greatly reduce exposure to nonsmokers.


Are you a moonlight advertising executive and you’ve been holding out on me?


Lindbloom carefully assesses the First Amendment issues and shows how the FDA could do this discretionary enforcement authority without any new rulemaking.


I can only picture you rubbing your hands together with glee over discretionary enforcement. Control has just gone to your head now, hasn’t it…


This approach would not only allow action much faster – years faster – than using rule making, but it would also be easier to defend in court.


I think, with this statement the way it is, its just more hand rubbing…


If it turns out that e-cigarettes do not help smokers quit, keep people smoking (which I think is their actual effect)


Oh look folks, more opinion!!! I THINK it is their actual effect. ((Ugh! I think you’re an idiot!)) They DO help people quit:


or that they turn out to be a lot more dangerous than the optimists think


TURN OUT to be???? You really want people to take you seriously??? See research again Stan: E-Cigarette Research (http://www.ecigalternative.com/ecigarette-studies-research.htm)


(i.e. if assumptions 1 and/or 2 turn out to be wrong) , the FDA can adjust its rules. But the damage will only be done to current smokers and the significant collateral damage listed in items 3, 4, and 5 will have been avoided.


Are you telling the FDA they can “adjust its rules”??? You have some control issues, Stan. Have you seen a psychologist for that? Damage… well, again, refer to that research… I keep having to tell you it’s there. This is getting old. E-Cigarette Research (http://www.ecigalternative.com/ecigarette-studies-research.htm)))


Everyone at the FDA needs to study this paper with an open mind and see that the deeming rule which is now being finalized does not inadvertently make it harder to implement this plan.


“An Open Mind.” Simon Chapman hasn’t blocked me, I actually like some of his information. Engage properly with people in the twitter arena instead of insisting on your way or the highway, Stan. You might learn something. See if you can have an open mind sometime. You don’t do any research so you might as well ponder the wonders of learning.

S


And, while the technical details of Lindbloom’s plan are written for the US, the ideas can be easily implemented in other countries. Indeed, they may be easier to implement in countries that do not deify commercial speech the way the US Supreme Court does.


“the ideas can be easily implemented in other countries”? They may be easier??? Now you want to control the world??? You REALLY need to see a professional. Consult your Psych. Department over there at the University Of California.


Probably even more important, public health advocates need to read this paper and start pressing the FDA, their keepers in the Obama Administration, and pro-health members of Congress to make sure that this plan gets implemented.


“Probably” even more important. Is it important? You sound tired here. You must hydrate once in a while between naps. It should read something like “I implore” or “must”. Those words are strong, show you mean business and would’ve been better to get people to “start pressing the FDA” to get this implemented. What exactly IS more important? Again, get off your high horse. You are a researcher. You would think the most important goal in a TOBACCO CONTROL researcher would be to get people OFF TOBACCO. Off of cigarettes. With all the research showing it’s MUCH less harmful than cigarettes I’d think you could see that by now.





While I admit your resume’ is impressive. Your integrity is quite questionable. Your ability to try to be cute and not have any idea that research isn’t being done is stunning, but it’s getting old, but you keep at it. Pompous, self-centered and beyond your time, there are people who are helping the world. Real Researchers. Real Doctors. Real Scientists. You insult your community and dismiss, sidestep and misconstrue the very idea that e-cigarettes are safe.



Well, glANTZ, they are safe. E-cigarettes are not only safe in comparison to smoking cigarettes that they’re saving lives. They’re much safer than you trying to keep people from it. Your goal in tobacco harm reduction is to get people off of tobacco. I would presume you would be the first to know that. Do some real research, make a phone call, stop making false claims. You are endangering people and giving them the illusion that an e-cigarette is worse in your #curbit campaign. That deters people and keeps them smoking when they believe the lies you’ve spread. That is irresponsible, that is costing lives. You know, you might make a better politician than researcher. Do some research, check that out…


I’m no one important. I did do a Vaping Truth Survey – Here’s the final analysis, that by default, discredits you with no grants, staff or offices in the very things you elude to…….


Turns out I and THOUSANDS of vapers have done more research than you via E-Cigarette Research (http://www.ecigalternative.com/ecigarette-studies-research.htm)


Dear Stanton Glantz: If millions of e-cigarette users are wrong around the world by benefiting with e-cigarettes, and ONE researcher is right…… isn’t that something you should take up with your math department being statistically unsound? A concerned and much healthier e-cigarette user. As always, Keep On #Vaping On.

Kevin

NZ, thank you again.

Vaping Saves Lives. Voices From The Survey.

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This is you. At the beginning of the Vaping Truth Survey (Final Analysis), I wanted to collect answers, and create a collective voice based on our experiences of vaping for others to see and find – like talking to a friend about it. No, it’s not scientific. I don’t always look to science to find out if something works for others. I just want to see other opinions, views and experiences they’ve had to help with my decision.

Think how one more smoker or tobacco user, if they like, can read about it privately while contemplating it like we all did after a discussion with themselves or a loved one about it, searching for answers to vaping. Maybe they are afraid to ask someone. Maybe they don’t know anyone who vapes. Maybe pride is in the way. Maybe they just believe the misinformation in the media, perpetuated by “experts”. We all know the media, public health and politicians conveniently won’t figure out where to find valid research here:  Real Research

They don’t tell you there is a medical community well on board here with: M.O.V.E

They won’t see this extensive and powerful research done by Kellie Forbes (BScN RN, a member of M.O.V.E.) to help others to find a way to the truth here in PDF form: Vaping-the-truth-USA

or her interview with the M.O.V.E. organization here:

INTERVIEW WITH KELLIE FORBES


With over 7,000 worldwide participating from 72 countries, there is a collection of information for those looking quietly on the internet for answers about it… and I hope this blog is a point to find truth. We’re not all exactly the same, we don’t have the exact same experiences, but collectively, we share a common thread. We know vaping works, and we want others to know it, hands down.

I chose to search “saves lives” and to that effect on the “Any other comments? Suggestions? Thanks for taking this survey!” section on #15….

I said you had a voice. You chose to use those voices. Here are just a fewand I thank you for it.

No edits, just what you put:



professor peter hajeck said in a youtube video published by his university earlier this year that in years to come, this whole contraversy will be written about in history books. i hope the current day opponents of e-cigs can live with themselves when they realise if they had been open with the science and truth about this product from the start, more lives could have been lengthened and saved.
Thursday, Dec 18th 7:17PM


Vaping has saved me. I smell, look and feel better. People aren’t repulsed by my scent when I come inside a room. I am more confident in myself when I talk to others. No more, “I hope I don’t smell like ashes.” I am truly a much happier person.
Thursday, Dec 18th 8:53PM


I vape. I have regained my health and I have regained hopes for a long life not cut short by cancer. It has literally changed my life and I love it. I gave up nothing and gained everything.
Friday, Dec 19th 3:49PM


Vaping has Saved my life, I am in no doubt about that. I have Mild Asthma and since I started Vaping I have had the same inhaler for Eighteen Months as opposed to every Six Weeks when I Smoked
Saturday, Dec 20th 7:24AM


Vaping has changed my life in so many great ways….. politicians remember… I vape! And I also VOTE! Try to take my vape I will take your vote!
Saturday, Dec 20th 11:18AM


Vaping has saved my life. After smoking 42 years my doctor told me I have never been so healthy and asked me what I was doing different. That is when I told him I quit smoking and now vape. He told me to keep on vaping then.
Saturday, Dec 20th 11:55AM


Vaping has saved my life. I am so glad I made the switch. Not only has it saved me money (even though I have bought a few mods and juice), but my health (both mental and physical) are much MUCH better
Saturday, Dec 20th 3:20PM


Thanks to all of the unseen people who are giving of themselves to make vaping an acceptable alternative to smoking. They have saved countless lives with hardly a word of thanks.
Saturday, Dec 20th 10:48PM


Please, please… anything you can do to make Vaping more widely known and available to the public will be welcome.
Vaping saved me from smoking and probable serious health issues. I’m sure many others would also see the same benefit I have – if only Governments and business would get out of the way and make it available for all smokers.
Sunday, Dec 21st 12:55AM


Vaping saved me 3000 Euro a year!
Sunday, Dec 21st 8:07AM


RELAX AND VAPE, onwards and upwards. The best is yet to come if we vapors are vocal about keeping the government from ruining our new industry that has already saved countless lives and not to mention countless tax dollars that would have been spent on medical bills for people dieing from smoking related illnesses.
DOWN WITH BIG TOBACCO! They are killers.
Sunday, Dec 21st 5:23PM


I feel it’s saved my life!
Monday, Dec 22nd 12:31AM


Vaping saved my life. I believe it isn’t natural and in no way should be endorsed for everyone to do but it should be encouraged to smokers to end smoking. Honestly, I don’t even eat candy anymore because of vaping. I can just put whatever flavor juice I want instead. I watched people hack and cough around cigarette smoke and my grandmother is sitting in a chair dying from stage 4 emphysema from smoking all her life. My children used to cough when I would go for a smoke break and come back inside. That’s what opened my eyes that I needed to quit. Smoking kills and it’s been proven. It hasn’t for vaping.
Monday, Dec 22nd 1:13AM


vaping saved my mothers life
Monday, Dec 22nd 7:51PM


Vaping saved my life!
Tuesday, Dec 23rd 3:19AM


Vaping has saved my life. I am a healthier person due to vaping. Vaping works. I am a non smoker
Saturday, Dec 27th 9:41AM


Vaping saved my life! I will NEVER stop vaping no matter what! My whole family has stopped smoking and started vaping and I am proud of them all, it has impacted all of us in so many ways from health to safety.
Saturday, Dec 27th 10:13AM


VAPING I BELIEVE
SAVED MY LIFE
Friday, Jan 2nd 11:24AM


Best stop smoking device ever created. Perhaps the biggest breakthrough in public health in terms of potential lives saved since penicillin. How can anyone in their right mind hinder this instead of championing it?
Tuesday, Jan 13th 12:44AM


Vaping has literally saved my life – I was borderline COPD and emphysema, and both have reversed to the point where it’s almost impossible to tell I ever smoked.
Tuesday, Jan 20th 12:39PM


None, other than this: I believe that vaping has saved / extended my life.
Tuesday, Jan 20th 2:26PM


Without a doubt in my opinion, vaping works. I have no doubt in my mind that vaping has saved my life.
Saturday, Jan 24th 5:29AM


I tried patches, gum, chantix, we’ll but in & cold turkey. Nothing made me quit smoking until I discovered vaping. I feel so much healthier l. I don’t cough anymore or cough up nasty phlegm. I don’t get short of breath. I feel like I can breath. I smell and taste so much better. Best of all, I don’t stunk like an ashtray anymore. Vaping saved my life!
Saturday, Jan 24th 2:44PM


Vaping has saved my life.
Vaping has changed my life. I wish more people saw the advantages of switching to vaping.. Vape on!
Monday, Dec 22nd 9:01PM


Vaping has changed not only my life but many others. Never would i have thought it worked until i tried it and im very very thankful i did. I feel better and better as the days go on.
Tuesday, Dec 23rd 8:45AM


vaping changed my life!
Thursday, Dec 25th 10:07PM


Vaping has changed my life ! Every smoker should try it and help us make this a smoke free world .
Friday, Dec 26th 2:20PM


I always use the term “switched” not quit because I still have nicotine in my juice and I’m still performing the same steps I would if I were “smoking” cigarettes, putting something to my mouth(although holding it differently) and inhaling,I’ve just changed some of the ingredients. Telling me to get rid of my nicotine and flavors completely, is like telling someone to drink unflavored decaffeinated coffee only, it won’t happen. I really hope we don’t lose our right to vape.
Sunday, Dec 28th 11:48AM


I FEEL AS THO MY LIFE HAS CHANGED. THE BALL AND CHAIN IS CUT FREE. I NO LONGER FEEL CONTROLLED, I SMELL GREAT, AND I FEEL WONDERFUL. NOW SINCE I DID THIS SURVEY WILL YOU PLEASE TELL ME WHERE PPL GO TO ENTER CONTEST’S TO WIN UPGRADE’S. I’VE NVER WON ANYTHING EXCEPT I HAVE ONE TH FIGHT ON SMOKING, AMEN
Tuesday, Dec 30th 8:39PM


Thanks for making this survey. My answers were sincere for being past my bedtime. Vaping matters to me; It changed our lives for the better. I would appreciate a little extra safety regarding the liquids, and metals used for tanks/coils. I do not, however, wish to move backward where nicotine consumption is concerned. I honestly believe the negativity heaped on vaping resonates in a not-so-coincidental way with the wishes of tobacco companies; namely that vaping should go away. If anything is a gateway drug for cigarettes I would look toward stress. The idea people are going to exodus from vaping to cigarettes is comically dangerous. Kinda like our politicians.

Wednesday, Dec 31st 6:51AM




Lots more on the blog… more voices are coming…. 🙂

Keep ON #Vaping ON.

Kevin


Nicotine Reduction Therapy, What’s really safe? The Truth & Perspective on the Gum, Patch & Drugs Over E-Cigs.

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Nicotine Reduction Therapy, A new perspective for the health community. Some, as seen below, cannot use certain methods. Just because they are approved, doesn’t mean there aren’t issues with the end user. It doesn’t mean they are safe.


These people went to these methods, these lengths as a way to stop smoking and these are their words for “approved” methods and voice some extremely valid reasons they did not work. These comments show without doubt or need of “science” that there IS a better and more effective alternative, vaping.

( Comments from around the world, unedited, from the Vaping Truth Survey)


The patch caused skin irritation and nughtmares. The gum caused digestive issues. Cold turkey worked for a short time because I was pregnant. And Chantix caused horrible nausea and nightmares.

• Chantix was awful. It messed with how I felt and caused anxiety. Gum def didn’t work. Patch burned my skin, gave me super weird dreams. Vaping, has had no negative side effects.

• I didn’t try acupuncture but I did try auriculotherapy. Zyban worked the best, but after 18 months quit I started again and was up to a pack-a-day again within three days… as if I’d never quit! None of the other methods I tried worked for more than a few days at most. You have to want to quit SO badly and have some serious willpower and motivation… otherwise, nothing will be effective. Vaping replaces not only the nicotine, but the hand-to-mouth action. That was critical to my success.

• Nothing satisfied me like vaping does. Vaping satisfies all the urges. My doctor did not recommend me quitting smoking as I was going through a lot and he felt it would push me over the edge
• Chantix made me irritable and mean. Cold turkey I didn’t have enough self control for. The lozenges and gum did not help with the hand to mouth feel of smoking so it wasn’t good enough either.

• Chantix (prescription) made me an absolute nut, patch and inhaler didn’t work for more than a month (I would go right back to it), and cold turkey didn’t work at all.

• 1 week was the longest I could quit with existing legacy methods, they just don’t work. Quitting by using a vape device was much easier by comparison.

• nothing worked for me. i believe this is down to the fact that with patches, for example, they give you a 24hr hit of nicotine, and when you remove them you still crave the nicotine, so go slowly back to gaining your hit, be that via smoking or another method.

• As soon as you stop taking the drugs, you want a smoke, the gum tastes horrible and doesn’t work worth a darn, and cold turkey is really hard without support. Using an ecig replaced the action of puffing on a smoke so the psychological affect of puffing on an ecig completely calms the users cravings without the nasty chemicals and tar
• I wouldn’t touch Champix or Zyban as many suicides have been attributed to them.

• Neither medications like Chantix or patches/gums worked in my case. The withdrawal syndrome was too strong or they had some unexpected secondary effects.

• You name it I’ve probably tried it. (The Dr’s wouldn’t let me try the drugs because of the medications I have to take already.) Nothing worked, that monkey was always on my back saying “I want a real cigarette”. Vaping has given me a freedom I never thought was possible. The monkey is dead and I am truly free.
• Vaping is not a smoking-cessation method for me. I tried it and immediately realised this was BETTER than smoking – without the health risks and the guilt. I enjoy my nicotine as I enjoy my alcohol and caffeine. I have no intention of giving up vaping any more than I intend to give up beer or coffee.

• That last resort was Chantix and Zyban. It caused me to hallucinate. I gave the packets back to my doctor. As with patches, no effect except dizziness, rash on my skin, and I could even have one patch on each arm and smoke at the same time. I tired the Allan Carr method, his book is a con inmy opinion, it should be banned !
• Patches – gave me nightmares, Inhaler – tasted AWFUL, Zyban – I had this twice, both times it worked for about 4 months and then I returned to smoking, Champix – also had this twice, made me feel very sick both times, didn’t finish either course due to making me feel so unwell. Could Turkey – managed about 6 hours. Acupuncture – price prohibitive and didn’t work at all

• I was in the car. still in the hypnotist’s parking lot. decided to test out how much I DIDN’T want a cigarette and how yucky it would taste. Lit it up and had no difference. Wasted $30 and smoked all the way home!

• My last attempt before rediscovering vaping was another trial with chantix along side of recovering from larengeal surgery because of a cancer scare. I lasted about one month. I would sa I have been desperate to quit for the last 15 years, but none of those options made it possible for me until I picked up my e-cig.

• After one week on chantix I got depressed and was told by the doctor to stop using it as people have committed suicide on it. Other nrt either tasted horrible or made me itch or hurt my throat. After having acupuncture I left the building and had a fag. Self help books didnt teach me anything i didn’t already know. telling smokers that they will die won’t help anybody.

• I can’t try the prescriptions as I have a history of depression. Nothing else touched the cravings. Vaping the right nic strength totally kills the cravings. I actually prefer vaping over smoking because of the taste and smell and it works! No wicked witch from the west! 🙂

• Champix (as its called in Canada) made me terribly ill. I did quit smoking for the 5 weeks I was on Champix but because I felt so sick, I realized that this wasn’t the way to quit. I started smoking again and felt better. Pharmaceuticals are not the answer for smoking cessation.

• I nursed my mother through lung cancer until her death in 2000, then 5 years later went through it all again with my sister. Both were long term heavy smokers like me, so I had every incentive to quit. Believe me I tried – countless times using every known aid. Nothing worked for very long so I made my peace with it and quit quitting. Then I was introduced to vaping and decided to try it for one week to see if it might help me to cut down. I never smoked again. I quit without even trying.



If you’re a health professional and are in any doubt there isn’t enough “research” about vaping, please refer to this website: E-cigarette Research, Studies & Papers

Once you’ve done that, or already understand “vaping” is substantially safer than smoking: PLEASE join M.O.V.E. 


Here is where I am going to turn the tables a bit on misinformation. Here is where I call one of you alleged professionals OUT.

Schoolyard bullying if you want to call it that, but you have media at your disposal, I simply have a blog. Call it what you will.

Some medical experts are told to tell patients to “use these approved methods” by SPONSORS. Perks, bonuses. Prestige. Looking good on television is not saving lives. If you are one of those “experts”, and this stings, then you need to re-evaluate your profession and seek help, knowledge and further educate yourself.

You assume it’s important work you’re doing spreading misinformation about e-cigarettes, and it’s quite disturbing knowing you’re too arrogant or ignorant by claiming you “don’t know enough” and there’s “not enough information”.

If you are a medical professional. do some reading here about e-cigarettes. If I can find it with a full time job, and NO degree, you can certainly access and inform with your vast knowledge and education, right? You’ve got the big degree. Figure it out.


Here is an example of “not sure”.

Dr Kevin R. Campbell, MD, FACC

“Discussing the dangers of e-cigarettes with @WNCNMikeg on @WNCN this morning”.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=936687416343234


He says he is discussing dangers and states in part:

“some type of fluid” (Um, don’t you KNOW? Your discussing the DANGERS of E-cigs, Doctor? You don’t sound qualified to discuss them very well, now do you?)

“nicotine…terribly addictive” Wrong

Referring to Dr. Jeff Crane, he’s “unsure” but both of you could go here for plenty of information about e-cigarettes.

As for gateways / children?

In the end, this specific “doctor” after proper adult engagement and “needing to know more”, blocked quite a few people both on twitter & facebook because we were pointing out the discrepancies in his “expertise”, like adults.



For some reason, this next link goes to the middle of the twitter line, so you may need to scroll up to see his first tweet:

This is just a part of the timeline here.

dangerous



I don’t care what your position is, I don’t care what your title claims you to be, if you are in the public eye you should be ashamed of yourself for pretending to know “dangers” and then saying you “don’t know enough” of the very topic you describe as dangerous. Dr. Campbell, by the way, I saw your misinformation about Chantix where you claim it’s VERY EFFECTIVE as well…would you recommend that crap to your family?

Stop the lies, vaping saves lives. Nice tie, and hope your book sells hundreds.


All comments are from the Vaping Truth Survey (Final Analysis)


If you have PROOF, and it has been properly performed and properly reviewed, I and every person vaping will listen to every word.

Here, just in case you want to redeem yourself, I have your “Plausible Deniability” section ready.

Keep On #Vaping On.

Kevin

Vaping Health Benefits. Who’s hiding the truth?

How can what is beneficial about vaping be hiding in plain sight from almost every media report?

They must have an agenda.

What the media and studies from science doesn’t tell you about vaping, we will.

Vapers have a voice.scientist

Below are 100 unedited answers just as they came in  (from around the world, language & spelling are unimportant).

from participants to question number 7 from The Vaping Truth Survey. I copied/pasted just one page:

Health benefits you’ve noticed since vaping?

These are just one hundred voices as they answered them.

If you believe these are anecdotal, please refer  Beneficial Bias before proceeding.

Health benefits you’ve noticed since vaping?



• I personally feel much better, More energy and just better in general,


• Skin better. Smell less. Sense of smell and taste improved. Don’t honestly know if am listed as a non smoker on my medical chart


• asthma only bothers me now if I have a cold of flu, otherwise I rarely use my inhaler.


• Beter taste, smell again!


• Because I was on steroids and antibiotics 2 or 3 times a year plus emergency admissions for pulmonary infections which exacerbated asthma and needed oxygen. No longer prescribed seretide and use 2 puffs of atrovent before bed which I am not sure I need really.


• My overall body wellness has significantly improved. Teeth are becoming white again. My face has a healthy pink color.


• Sadly I can’t say I feel better


• My COPD symptoms are greatly reduced – I can now climb stairs, walk for miles and do all sorts of things I haven’t been able to do for years.


• I just physically feel better, have more breath, don’t get winded as easily. When I was a smoker, I would have a cough almost all fall/winter, but now I don’t, and I love it!


• + No more smell, phlegm in the morning, etc


• Year before i went to the vaping, i was in the army. On army i had every morning 30 minutes of coughing and puking because of the cigs. Now my mornings are nothing like that.


• Yes, but they are minor because in other ways I’m still living the lifestyle of a smoker so I don’t exercise as much as I should.


• Hair seems to grow faster, same with nails


• Massive improvement in health – beyond anything l could have ever dreamt of when l was smoking. For me this is the most important thing and the overwhelming reason for trying e-cigs. I have ‘before and after’ medical records which confirm the improvement so it’s not imaginary


• My taste is back, I dont cough in the mornings, no more phloem and my sense of smell as improved slightly.


• Still coughing after 8 months vaping


• Breathing without wheezing, not coughing up phlegm in the morning, less breathless when brisk walking


• No more coughing. Cycle much easier.


I wanted an alternative to anti-depressants and reading the latest data on nicotine in that area made me think it was worth a try.


• I bike commute, i don’t own a car as well as run. I can tell you without a doubt that my breathing and endurance have benefited


• I was having massive spikes of pain in my chest and lungs before I picked up vaping, and they have gone away, with an increase in lung capacity.


• I used to have trouble walking up multiple flights of stairs, or running long distances. I’d also wake up in the morning any my chest felt too tight to take a full breath. Now all of those are symptoms are significantly better; and best of all my lungs feel twice the size.


• I had a nasty smokers cough, that has now gone.


• I do a lot of mountain walking and have a physical job. Since starting vaping my endurance levels are much higher.


• I even started doing 3 mile runs and joined a gym for the first time in ages since I can finally breathe again.


• Sore throat


When the liquid gets into my mouth that’s all i taste. it burns my lips. apparently this is common.its called over vaping?


• I have copd with out vaping I would have started smoking again I was on the verge .


• I can taste food again!


• i had chronic bronchitis. it’s gone.


• My health has vastly improved since I made the switch to vaping. I can breathe better, I no longer have a constant cough, and I don’t wheeze while working or at the gym. Also, my blood pressure has gone back to an even, normal level, and the circulation in my hands and feet has greatly improved.


• Health issues were short term and involved the usual side effects of quitting smoking. Aside from the cravings, the side effects of quitting smoking are one of the barriers I was never able to overcome. Plus, I gained a little weight as my senses of taste and smell returned.


• I know longer have smokers cough which used to affect me badly especially in the mornings. I used to cough to the point or retching every morning when I smoked.


• My chest does not feel tight when I wake up in the mornings


Breath better was the first thing I noticed. With that came more energy. Then I started noticing my sense of smell had improved. Most notably from smelling smokers for the first time and thinking “I used to stink like that?”


• can now expand lungs to the full, which couldn’t do with smoking. don’t smell of smoke: clothes and at home. breath is better, generally feel healthier.


• I can run much further, faster, and longer, since switching to e-cigs


I will put this in my own words. I am feeling better . I can breath better when going up stairs or running. I am sleeping better and I am not getting sick with colds. I dont have headache like I use too.


• My health has suffered through ageing, I truly believe I would be less healthy had I not stopped smoking.


• I was a healthy smoker


• I am not winded anymore..can run up stairs without feeling ill. I missed my sinisitis/bronchitis infection this year (which lead to pneumonia now) I no longer have a constant wheeze in my chest for it is gone. I don’t wake up choking on phlegm.

I feel healthy.


• Stress is more in control along with my anxiety.


• true


Colds don’t last as long or affect my respiratory system as much as when I smoked. I’ve always had blood pressure on the lower side, so I can’t say anything changed there.


I feel like a new person now thanks to vaping, Still get my nicotine but with none of the death.


• I no longer cough and my gums are in better shape.


• Keep in mind, I am dual user, but as I smoke moderately, I do notice better health which I attribute to my strong preference for vaping.


• Things I haven’t been able to enjoy for a number of years, like hiking in the Rocky Mountains are a breeze for me now. I don’t get winded anymore….so obviously the stair in my house are no longer an issue! My home doesn’t sound like a tuberculosis ward in the morning anymore either. No more phlem choking me to the point of vomitting either. I can taste my food now and my nose does its job way better now too!


• Sleep better and happier mood too. Smoker’s cough disappeared after a week. Do stairs without a rest stop half way. More energy to do chores.


• i was on 2 inhalers up to 6 times a day with copd,i now only need 1 inhaler 2 or 3 times a week


• I would not have stayed with vaping if my health did not improve. I stopped wheezing, I have more energy, I stopped snoring (my wife told me this), my overall health is better, less colds and flu.


The only ill effects I’ve noticed from vaping are occasional sore/scratchy throat (diminished greatly since switching to VG-dominant ratio), dehydration and headaches associated with dehydration.


• I feel sharper in my thoughts and i feel that there is more jump in my step.


• I feel cleaner and more energetic.


• Feel so much better, plus my teeth and cloths stay clean.


I feel 1 billion times better than I did when I was smoking cigs. I can take big deep breaths without pain, something I could not do while smoking cigs. I no longer have the chronic cough I used to have. I haven’t had chronic Bronchitis since I started vaping and my yearly sinus issues have diminished greatly and my doctor attributes these changes to my swapping smoking for vaping.


• Play baseball and not dying running the bases able to hike and travel difficult wood paths


• Because I’ve noticed health benefits from vaping. Breathing is easier, blood pressure is down, and my doctor says I’m much better.


• I used to get at least one (or more) respiratory infections, every year. I’ve had one (two years ago) in the last 3 years.


• Walk a dog daily and I’ve noticed the significant improvement in cardiovascular ability.


Don’t get winded walking up steps to 3rd floor apartment like I used to.


• I started exercising regularly at the time I quit smoking, so it is hard to say what benefits came from stopping smoking.


• I even sleep better nowadays because of vaping.


Wheezing in bed has gone completely.


• I didn’t have many health issues to begin with, but I had noticed I’d begun to wheeze some and have some shortness of breath. I no longer have these issues.


• my taste buds are better now


PG caused tonsil stones from topical dehydration. ENT diagnosed and in treatment.


• When I still smoked I often woke up during the night because my throat was full of disgusting slime. I was also sick quite

often, but now I haven’t even had the flu for a long time.


I was listed as a former smoker, I had quite several times and it coincided with my appointment with my PCP. Most of the benefits I have noticed myself.


• I am an asthmatic and have mild COPD from cigarettes. Even though I’m still both of those things and they will probably never go away entirely, I’m not nearly as bad as when I was on cigarettes.

Vaping doesn’t affect them.


• I do breathe better now, though there is still a long way to go. I’m not as stressed out or pissed off anymore, so it’s made me more relaxed that’s for sure. Plus, no fixation on having to smoke on breaks at work, I don’t even had a want to smoke.


• I haven’t been to the doctor for a checkup since I started vaping 3 months ago, but I have noticed that the skin on the fingers that used to hold cigarettes is healing.


• Because it’s true.


I’m less often sick (flu, etc.), I recover more quickly, I didn’t gain weight. Maybe I breathe better but I don’t know.


• Nothing much to elaborate on. I said most of it in my previous answers.


• Every morning upon waking up, I noticed that if I took a deep breath and filled my lungs with air my chest would hurt. After a while I noticed this has gone and filling my lungs has become easier!


• Not necessarily a health benefit, but I and my breath smell much better.


• I can taste and smell a lot better (like a non-smoker). I can do sports far better. I do not have headaches anymore (which I had from smoking). Over all feel better and healthier.


• I don’t cough anymore. My coughing used to keep me awake at night when I smoked. Now, when I feel a cold or other virus coming on, it seems like I can fight it off in a day or two. I blieve the nicotine or pg is killing the viruses.


• I can run, walk long distances, without becoming out of breath. Hold my breath longer, no longer waking up coughing.


• I can’t believe the difference in how I feel it’s wonderful.


• I’ve always had blood pressure in the low/normal range. Even after using 2 packs a day I hadn’t developed COPD. My old doctor has retired and my current one hasn’t known me long enough to comment. Having said that, when I ran into my old doctor he was absolutely ecstatic that I had quit smoking and had no issues with my vaping.


• Pretty much every aspect of my health has improved. I have not seen a doctor since quitting smoking. Just FYI, not boasting.


Better stamina, lung function measurably better, fewer respiratory infections/inflammations, better immunity to colds/flu.


• Have not been clinically checked, would say the lack of tobacco smell is important


• Why do you have these little red asterisks next to each question as if to indicate footnote, additional info or disclaimer yet they provide nothing?


• I didnt have health issues when I started vaping


• Because it’s the answer that applies best.


• I just started vaping, so I’m weening myself off analogs


• I have feel better and breathe better


After 3 years off cigarettes, you should see my lung x-rays. It almost looks like I never even smoked a cigarette in my entire life! Doctor says my lungs should be back to a “non-smokers” status within the next year =)


Both of my doctors approved. My tests are all better and I feel better.


I can taste flavors in food better and smell scents better


• just generally feel better in myself, more able to exert myself without getting breathless.


Fewer lung infections/illness in general reduced.


• this is after only one month


I never smoked, but I don’t feel anything negative while vaping. If anything, I’ve made more friends vaping and am happier because of those friends.


• A smoker spends the first 10-15 minutes of their morning coughing and blowing their nose. That stopped for me after 2 weeks of vaping.


• I am in decent shape but when I was smoking I had hypertension (age 23) now I do not have issues with my Blood Pressure.


• I had a persistent feeling of fluid in my lungs for 9 months. Two weeks after starting vaping it cleared up.


TRUE Medical PROFESSIONALS are already WELL on board with Vaping with an organization called M.O.V.E.: https://sciencecig.wordpress.com/move/

If you are one of those Professionals, and have any doubts, please contact anyone in that organization, they will be glad to help.

If you are media or government official and are responsible, you would contact the same members of that group. You can email me on this blog.

To you who doubt, research is there.

Don’t tell us there aren’t enough studies. Don’t tell us we need more time.


For Scientific Research on E-Cigarettes Click Here.

Medical Professionals know better and ARE here in support of e-cigarettes at M.O.V.E.


Here is Public Health England on E-cigarettes:

Public Health England Ecigarettes_an_evidence_update_A_report_commissioned_by_Public_Health_England(6)


There is something coming… it’s a documentary. A Billion Lives. I’m SURE the defendants above aren’t looking forward to this.

I am.

The fight isn’t over. It’s only just begun.

Here they are on Twitter:  https://twitter.com/ABillionLives

Facebook: https://twitter.com/ABillionLives

Their Website: http://ABillionLives.com/


Here, added for importance 12/13/15

“Popcorn” lung came up again in the news.

I suggest a tall glass of liquid to hydrate due to the high salt

The WONDERFUL folks over at Vapers.Org.UK

released a Special Edition on 12/12/15:

I suggest a tall glass of liquid to hydrate due to the high salt content!

A Bucket Of Popcorn.


The  The Vaping Truth Survey Final Analysis and other proper links are on this blog.

You can’t keep hiding from facts. For you who do continue to make false claims, you’ve had plenty of time to show us proof.

We of all people would love to see it.

Until then, stop using your emotions to cover your lies. It’s as if you want us to go back to smoking and keep others from benefiting. I wonder why.

Vaping saves lives.

For you in government, your irresponsible bans/taxes/restrictions need to be stopped or rescinded.

For you in health, um, read it again.

For you in media, do some RESEARCH.

Keep it up…I’m coming after you.


 

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As always, more to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin