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Vaping In The News ~ July 22nd, 2017

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Vaping In The News

July 16th – 22nd, 2017

Clive Bates ~ Advocacy ~ Carl V. Phillips (x’s2) ~ THRA Survey Results ~ Why Should Vapers Defend Smokers? ~ ECigIntelligence Survey Results ~ Please Keep Smoking ~ WHO declares they need more money ~ Silencing Public Dissension ~ Frank Davis ~ Robert Morgen ~ Bill Godshall ~ Countdown ~ Kevin Price: THR4Life ~ David Goerlitz


Clive Bates:

Clive is always, and I mean always, spot on.

English tobacco control plan embraces tobacco harm reduction – world first


Advocacy

Interesting thread:


The Results Are In:

THRA Annual 2017 Vaping Survey


Have you seen THR4Life?

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Carl V. Phillips:

Utter innumeracy: six impossible claims about tobacco most “public health” people believe before breakfast

Carl, again… with Simple Simon.

Simple Simon would refuse to meet the pieman


If you know, move along, nothing to see. If you don’t…

Why should vapers defend smokers?


More Survey Results:

ECigIntelligence User Survey


Do you know about NNA?

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#PleaseKeepSmokingWeNeedTheMoney

Nothing says keep smoking more than this.

Anti-smoking council has £85m invested in tobacco companies


Taxes & a Ponzi Scheme.

Here’s that #PleaseKeepSmokingWeNeedTheMoney motto speaking for itself again:

WHO report published


You’re reading it here – maybe not first, but you’re reading it here.

Silencing Public Dissension | Public Comment Periods are No Guarantee of Coordination


Frank Davis

Frank is always a good read…..

Completely Out Of Control


Are you familiar with INNCO?

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Robert Morgen

Again, not news if you switched, but nobody in public health will talk about it.

Smokers Switching to Vaping See 66% Respiratory Improvements


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Bill Godshall

Mr. Godshall is an invaluable source of information.

Godshall Chronicles 07/07/17


Countdown:

Death of the Vaping Industry


Kevin Price, THR4Life

An idea, in fact – a vision –  from Ray Yeates of the THRA (Tobacco Harm Reduction Association of Canada) quite a while back is breathing air.

Kevin Price announced the Board Of Directors of Tobacco Harm Reduction 4 Life (A 501c3) July 17th, 2017. The Board consists of Lindsay Stroud Skip Murray, Jenny Ho, David Goerlitz and myself.

This organization will include a 1-800 number for smokers to call in with questions.

THR4Life


A Statement from David Goerlitz:

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Coordination with the FDA: Hartland, Wisconsin Holds Public Hearings

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Imagine

Imagine for a moment that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has overstepped their authority in “deeming” anything to do with e-cigarettes.

Imagine there’s a little-known process used to challenge regulations imposed when the federal authority, by law, did not coordinate with state and local municipalities.

Now, imagine there’s a small town in the United States willing to take it upon themselves to challenge the authority having jurisdiction over these regulations.

Imagine.


The Village of Hartland, Wisconsin has done just that. They have hosted three days of public hearings and testimony of what is called “coordination” with Hearing Officer Fred Kelly Grant, Esq. at the helm.

The Electronic Vaping Coalition of America (EVCA) has explained what “coordination” is here.

WHAT IS “COORDINATION” IN FEDERAL LAW?


Three days of testimony

Testimony in Hartland was presented by Cory Winston, Azim Chowdhury, Shaun Casey, Antonio Lauria, Lou Ritter, Jeff Stier, Aaron Biebert, Johnson Creek Vapor Company, Bill Godshall and more.


Thursday, April 27th, 2017


Friday, April 28th, 2017


Saturday, April 29th, 2017



MONDAY, May 1st, 2017:

The decision is in:




THIS is how you can fight.

Via EVCA, the funding to FIGHT the FDA with this board if it goes to court:

Next Steps After FDA Coordination Hearing

Added 5/13/17

 



Imagine

Imagine the businesses who are going out of business.

Imagine the health implications of the imposed regulations by the FDA and the organizations who have supported them.

Imagine the person who walks into a vape shop and can’t be helped properly, if the vape shop will even exist within the next year.

Now imagine taking the time to listen, to ask questions, stand UP, question the lack of integrity and frankly, DO something.

Imagine saying enough is enough.


If the videos below do not play, you can access them here:


Related:

This article from Kathy Hoekstra:

Small-town America takes on FDA over e-cigarette regulations


WHILE this challenge is ongoing, it is imperative in the United States to visit CASAA:

First, the Cole-Bishop bill, (H.R. 1136) via CASAA

Out of the budget but, still in the fight!


Meanwhile

Duncan Hunter (R,CA)  has introduced one of his own, taking tobacco OUT of the description completely.
From my friend, Daniel Hall of Guide To Vaping:
Also From Mr. Hall: (added 5/2/17)


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Incoherent Screams & Observations

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Some days

When I’m writing on my blog, I wonder, does anyone read it. Does anyone understand the consumer’s point of view?

I’ve said “we look harder for information, good or bad,” than those who pretend they present it to the public effectively and accurately.

Those self-centered “officials” who still pass information off as if it were “for the greater public good” (without regard to the actual public) and posing as experts –  are pissing me off.

You too? Good, let’s move along.


What Was Released

With the FDA regulations well underway, some idiots decided to “mine” tweets to observe “influencers” to determine and analyze “information shared on Twitter for insights into initial public reactions” to the regulations.

Denial, manipulation and keeping up appearances to protect cigarette sales is the goal. Because they’ll do a better job.

Public health advocates should consider using social media outlets to better communicate the policy’s intentions, reach and potential impact for public good to create a more balanced conversation.

There’s no balance. There are barely conversations.

There’s also no secret to professionals trolling on Twitter about e-cigarettes –  as it has been done in the past here and where we “may be an impediment to tobacco control research and practice” here.

Now it is being passed off as “research” and tends a reader to believe this is “may, could, might” be normal behavior of tobacco control or public health if there is such a thing.

I’ll get to that.

Another wonderful example of the scream test has found its home in the US National Library of Medicine National Institute of Health:

Public reactions to e-cigarette regulations on Twitter: a text mining analysis.


Screams Of Fear

What exactly are these people afraid of? They want their bias quota met. They want those who are against it suppressed. They want the public to know just what they want them to know, not information we are finding and providing, not what is factual or coherent. Just what they want the public to understand.

Much to my surprise, and with so much stiff competition, I proudly happened to be on the list of examples in the impugning world of influence balance and truth on twitter.


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That insight to their scream test, control and predicted eventual demise is the actual report not shown in the first link here:

You know, the bigger picture. Click.

Public reactions to e-cigarette regulations on Twitter: a text mining analysis.

Maybe someday they’ll do some actual research about e-cigarettes instead of wasting everyone’s time and money.

Added 4/5/07:

From Tina in the comments:

Last I knew, this study was still going on:

Is Twitter Censoring Us?

The tweet from Big Vaping’s DrMA is from the 21st of March, the release date of the “analysis” above was the 24th.

I wonder how powerful “they” are. This “may, might, could” be coincidental.

Update 4/14/17:

An Update on Safety


Public Health Out Of Control

Is this normal behavior? Are the emporers not wearing any cloths?

Speaking of incoherent babbling – Public health all along has coerced, suppressed and controlled public opinion to create a “balance”, as long as it’s weighted to their decisions.

We are, after all, the “enemy of the people”.

I’m not sure who said this, I asked and did not get an answer.

I assume it was Martin McBubbleGum.


Enough Is Enough

Along the same subject line as above, with the attitude and behavior towards smokers, smoking or any other power “health” has over the “enemy of the people” follows below:

A sad statement for smokers from ACSH today showing what lengths “orgs” will go to demean rather than assist. It’s not about “you”.

This, is normal behavior?


Street Fight

We’re impugning. We’re getting on their nerves. They are hedging their bets with your health. They think they can keep getting away with it.

They are hedging their bets with the consumer’s health and choice.

While we’re trying to get every single drop of information, good or bad, from reliable sources about e-cigarettes, public health wants to play games. They want to control them.

Their livelihood and egos are obviously more important than our, and consumers who may instead keep smoking’s  – very lives.


They are in it for themselves first. This is about lives, choice and telling the truth.

Keep doing that.

This is a street fight.

Get LOUDER.

As David Goerlitz has said — and will again soon…the gloves are off.


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Dr. Oz, Dr. Jennifer Caudle: What you really need to know about e-cigarettes

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Speaking of wizardry, it’s disheartening to see the public health sector including TV doctors like Dr. Oz and Dr. Jennifer Caudle denying anything but their own interests and touting “approved methods” by claiming they “don’t know enough”. Oh wait, they’re experts.

E-cigarettes have been around more than ten years. Research has been coming for quite some time. Surely the crack staff of the great and powerful Oz could have found some if they’d only followed the yellow brick road. I already know Dr. Oz’s credibility doesn’t amount to a hill of beans.


So, according to her website Dr. Caudle (“Dorothy”) “graduated with Honors from Princeton University and earned her medical degree from UMDNJ – School of Osteopathic Medicine.” and claims “she is a regular on-air health expert for local and national news networks.”

In her expert article “What You Need to Know About E-Cigarettes“, she states she’s “concerned about the potential harm of e-cigarettes.” She also states “there is a lot that we know and a lot we don’t know.’’

If you were paying attention, you would see what Doctors in Journal Of The American Board Of Family Medicine said about Physician Advice for e-Cigarette Use.

I’m not letting you get away with it. You forgot the consumer within the ‘need’ part. You failed to mention a thing about ecigarette-research.org or CASAA. Maybe you didn’t know about them at the time of your latest article?



You didn’t think to reach out to any of these organizations?



I’m not sure if you’re too important to think of the complete picture in your article, or if you’re just “too busy”.

It’s not like we haven’t met online before.



Dr. Caudle, You already knew about ecigarette-research.org.

In fact, in July I sent you the link, among others.



We’re not idiots. We’re already looking for all we can know about e-cigarettes. Do you know why? We’re tired of everyone being lied to. Because we’re the stakeholder in the equation. You’re not.

You’re worried about ratings and what your peers think. I’m concerned with the efficacy and safety of the device. Had you contacted CASAA they would have sent you here for battery safety.

I’m we’re looking for things like this:

Trace Metals Derived from Electronic Cigarette (ECIG) Generated Aerosol: Potential Problem of ECIG Devices That Contain Nickel

I don’t understand it all, but others – including colleagues of yours, doctors, scientists and more, do. They explain it to folks like me. You explain little, because you don’t know enough.

It doesn’t seem to do a lot for consumer – or patient confidence in your skills as a Doctor. Further your education before claiming expertise. Watch out for those flying monkeys and get those ruby slippers, Dorothy.

For those “challenged” in public health, there’s no place like home.



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Alice in TobaccoLand.

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According to Wikipedia, Tobacco control “is a field of international public health science, policy and practice dedicated to addressing tobacco use and thereby reducing the morbidity and mortality it causes”.

Let me break that down.

Public health science.  It also says practice.

Dedicated to addressing tobacco use via public health science, policy and practice.

Thereby reducing morbidity and mortality it causes.

It says mortality, not morality.

If the morality on vaping products doesn’t cease, the mortalities will continue.


Down the rabbit hole.

There are hundreds of organizations dedicated to addressing tobacco use. Those organizations are normally funded, among other things, by tobacco use. The Master Settlement Agreement, taxes, government grants and funding by pharmaceuticals trying convincing researchers to see “their side” so the FDA will trust & approve it are all part of the bigger picture. Don’t want any of them chasing us down the rabbit hole now, do we?

Let us have some tea, shall we?

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Tobacco control for the cessation world, involves “approved methods”, counseling, quit lines & other mythical suggestions in tobacco-land such as the always encouraging “quit or die”, you’re not trying hard enough… as smokers travel down the stop smoking hole…

Along come vaping products. Contested? Hot topic? Absolutely. Proof? Yep. Doubts? As far as your fingers can tweet or read in the media in the U.S.A..

It seems simple, really. Less tobacco use by smokers with an alternative in ANY way possible by anyone in the public health field, or by organizations like the Heart, Lung or Cancer associations…would be immediately and swiftly encouraged……well – that, my readers seems to be a fairy tale.

On to “Alice”.


To be balanced there has been some tweeting of vaping products as an alternative. I can’t possibly search for them all, but DID get a “maybe” here in 2015.


Here, in 2014, there was “waiting on evidence”.


Smokers falling a long way seem to always land in a hall with many locked doors….and a table appears… with concoctions and promises of cures to the smoker trying to stop with “try me” and “use as directed” and “FDA approved”. What do they feel, those trying so hard?

Shame.

Without success, a smoker is shamed regardless of the method chosen. (That is Tobacco Control training 101, is it not?)  Shamed, by everyone and their brother – who have been taught that forEVER.

Frustration.

Despite the EFFORT to cease tobacco use, the tobacco plant has nicotine. The cigarette has -how many other- chemicals that also MAKE tobacco addictive by design. Nicotine itself is not addictive, but the world doesn’t know – because they’ve been taught that as well… so they offer nicotine “replacement” therapies. (Love that word “therapy”).

Disillusion.

After multiple attempts for various reasons – be it poor health, children, mortality sinking in, whatever the personal decision was to try -the quit attempt fails or is aborted and the tobacco control machine turns to spin cycle. Round & round the smoker goes, falling down the rabbit hole.


We don’t know enough -about- long term effects. We know enough despite our own government’s challenge of regulations – we’ve stopped smoking -many accidentally- in a way NO other product or advice has come close to succeeding with on our journey down the hole. We communicate with each other via twitter, facebook and more. Learning daily. Empowered, making an impact.

As for long term effects? Well – we’re not smoking – if it were EXACTLY the same risk – I certainly wouldn’t have a blog.


Know enough, Alice. Make a commitment. Part of the perils of knowing enough is learning as much as you can, without bias and being able to relay that knowledge to others seeking information.

Speaking fluently with truth and conviction, will come naturally.


Long term:

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What is your definition of a long term study?

Supportive & hopeful methods are applied here.

BUT


The Pool of Tears

“Alice swims through her own tears and meets a mouse, who is swimming as well. She tries to make small talk with him in elementary French –  but her opening gambit “Où est ma chatte?” (“Where is my cat?”) offends the mouse and he tries to escape her.”

That’s the thing about Alice. Clarity. I’m still not sure how clear she is. I need some more tea!


RUTH


Pig and Pepper

“The Cheshire Cat appears in a tree, directing her to the March Hare’s house. He disappears, but his grin remains behind to float on its own in the air, prompting Alice to remark that she has often seen a cat without a grin but never a grin without a cat.”

 A Mad Tea-Party

“Alice becomes a guest at a “mad” tea party along with the March Hare, the Hatter, and a very tired Dormouse who falls asleep frequently, only to be violently woken up moments later by the March Hare and the Hatter. The characters give Alice many riddles and stories…”

   I cannot tell.


 Yes. That’s where a consumer could choose an alternative to tobacco.


Not sure about you, but the ‘real world’ is where we are using #e-cigarettes instead of tobacco.


 I’m as authentic as they come. Lorien is also. I troll her more than I troll you. 🙂

Ahhh…. nicotine. That’s another of my blogs.


  Potential? Huh. Safer but too early to be so blithely reassuring?


 See – told you Lorien is authentic. Genuine & approved.


 Which are you, proponent or opponent?


Alice, involved in a paper with C. Gartner:

Dueling letters: which one would you sign?


In 2014, DO INDEED was capitalized for emphasis. I appreciate that.


Advice from a Caterpillar

I appreciate the fact that “Alice” is willing to engage with most on twitter. As you know, most of her colleagues will block and never engage.

Simon Chapman and Stan GlANTZ are two examples of (legaleeze: may, might, could) conniving denying monkeys. (Haven’t blogged Capewell or McKee yet.)

Everyone tweets something they regret at one time or another. We’re all human  -except the jury isn’t in on @Entropy72 yet.

This is where I was actually shocked at you. I know from another – personal experience when a professional diagnosis became a lawsuit to a “commoner”. Thing is, we’re professionals just like you. All walks of life, including mental health.

 You took your well deserved lumps.

Then you did it again…….

I couldn’t tell if you were joking on this one any more than I can tell your true position on less harm with vaping products.

So off we go to the final chapter of Alice In TobaccoLand…


Alice’s Evidence

The Queen shouts her familiar “Off with her head!” but Alice is unafraid, calling them out as just a pack of cards, just as they start to swarm over her.

You engage with anecdotal vapers quaintly without making a statement. Teetering on a picket fence without committing. Rocking back and forth. A dangerous line of indecision. I strongly suggest focusing your eyes on the ball. Less tobacco use for the public. I imagine the implications of a “well respected by her peers” professional like yourself facing one of two possibilities.

  1. You’ll be ostracized by them by merely stating the emperor has no cloths. (Think of the thousands of twitter friends you’ll gain!)
  2.  You’ll empower them to take the stand with you, realizing the potential of millions of smokers very lives hang in the frustrating and disillusioned balance.

Either way, you can’t win, I suppose. Indignant irreverence for your own chosen profession, recognizing the “public” in public health and the public it intends to serve -at least at face value- is unacceptable.

You yourself are a Professor, a nurse, an environmental activist. The Editor of BMJ Tobacco Control Journal. You cannot convince me you’re set on sitting in the middle in a rocking chair on a fence. Being pragmatic  <–(funny that link mentions a unicorn) is “real-world application”.

I am the real world. This is not a guessing game, and lives are at stake. TAKE your eyes “OFF the ball” of tobacco for a moment. Vaping products are being regulated, restricted, taxed & banned as if – tobacco control’s livelihood – is at stake. Rather than being accepted as one way to become the end game, it is the ball they have become.

Speak to colleagues – some who are active tobacco control members around the world, all who have professional titles. They aren’t some rogue set of flunkies, they are your counterparts. Colleagues. Each are aiming for the same goal. Tobacco harm reduction. Here, at M.O.V.E..

Once you’ve done so, you can decide which this is. Real harm reduction, where you can join other members of M.O.V.E. and take a stand publicly against the fire and brimstone establishment  – who don’t like to be tested….

Or grab a match… pick your poison… and let the cards fall where they may.

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I invited you to the A Billion Lives premier, you respectfully declined.  (I was serious.)

I KNOW they’re going to be in California, I hope you go. Take Glantz with you.


Finally, If I’ve offended you in any way, shape or form, good.

Check Clive’s “Memo to public health grandees: vaping, vapers and you

for reference.

You shouldn’t be offended, though. Did you see what I wrote about Simple Simon Chimpmanzee?

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I hope you don’t block me and we’ll continue learning from each other.

It is about health, after all.


Speaking of health, this one’s fresh off the Dick Puddlecoat press:

Desperately Seeking Dictatorship.


Ruth Malone:

Via Tobacco Control BMJ

Via UCSF


Update 10/22/16:

Ruth has written this

“Yet, e-cigarettes and the burgeoning list of other non-combustible tobacco and nicotine products could represent potential leverage for accomplishing what once seemed unthinkable: phasing out combustible cigarettes, the single most deadly consumer product ever marketed.”

 

That is in full here:

The Race to a Tobacco Endgame

 


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FIGHT:

THESE are national consumer and industry organizations in the United States who keep US informed.


August8th.org

A BILLION LIVES

E-cigarette Research is HERE.

MORE e-cigarette research is also HERE.

If you are a Medical Professional  go HERE.

More to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

Cigarettes or E-Cigarettes. Which Product Is Safer? Let the world decide.

Everyone, from health experts, politicians, media, you can all vote. This is open to anyone.

Click on the photo to enlarge it to help make your decision.

Lets see what the world has to say.

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Please, make this fair! Share this with anyone on Facebook & Twitter!

Results are immediate!


If you are a Medical Professional and support this alternative to smoking cigarettes, please consider joining the M.O.V.E. Organization.

Please see other Medical PROFESSIONALS already on board @ M.O.V.E.: https://sciencecig.wordpress.com/move/


I would like to acknowledge Randy Willis https://twitter.com/VapedUpGaming for the graphic.

Thank you, Randy Willis.


New Survey coming soon.

Vaping Advocacy. Truth, Gloves, Policies & One Bad Apple.

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No matter how you advocate, please do so. Make phone calls, tweet on Twitter, post on Facebook, talk to your legislators & health professionals about M.O.V.E. 

Do something. Vaping saves lives.

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Vaping  (Electronic Cigarette Use)  The Truth:

Written by Kelli Forbes, BScN RN.

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One I Wrote, inspired from the one above:

#Vaping2015

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It’s Time For The Gloves To Come Off

http://fergusmason.com/?p=452


Briefing on the science and policy of e-cigarettes and vaping:

http://www.clivebates.com/?page_id=2853


Lastly From VapeTV:

An Open Letter To Vapers, Politicians, Researchers & The Anti-Nicotine Crowd


Your effort, no matter how big or small, is effort.


The Bad Apple:

While you’re here, there was a discovery that @us_vaping on twitter is

NOT a valid association.

They are NOT vaping advocates -although you will see I and quite a few others are following “them” on purpose.

They are following vaping vendors for the most part.

Hmmmm.

Although they are called “US Vaping Association”, it was on Godaddy and “whoswho” that the domain shows it is registered from CANADA.

They claim an office in Colorado, someone confirmed that is a “drop-box” service address.

(4950 S. Yosemite, F2 #117, Greenwood Village, CO 80111, United States)

Please beware. They also have a website:

usvapingassociation.com

If anyone confirms with me properly that this is a valid organization with proper paperwork, filing status with the State Of Colorado, and / or other public documents available online, I will GLADLY retract this statement.


Keep ON #Vaping ON.

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