Tobacco or health. It’s a battle I myself have fought – smoked over 30 years. The choice to smoke cigarettes is a personal one. There are people who want to end that choice, and seem to be on a mission.
Please, for your sake, don’t get your panties in a bunch. Breathe if you can. There’s actually no worries right now. Don’t believe their claims of urgency. It’s not THAT important. In fact, smoke ’em if you’ve got them ~there is plenty of time.
That’s right, plenty of time. There’s no need to rush the tobacco stores, no need to stockpile. For goodness sake, you don’t need to find a video on youtube on how to grow your own tobacco – there will be plenty to go around, and experts are assuring us of that!
As a matter of fact, I wouldn’t worry at ALL. They’re not sure about e-cigarettes either…. so you’ve got at least another 25 years according to recent “leading” public health since there’s an invigorating turbo-charged effort.
An Article in The Lancet has stated :
“Leading public health researchers call for the sale of tobacco to be phased out by 2040……with sufficient political support and stronger evidence-based action against the tobacco industry, a tobacco-free world – where less than 5% of adults use tobacco – could be possible in less than three decades“.
“could be possible” ???? Are you serious? Is this a bad joke??? I thought this was important.
“with a call on the United Nations (UN) to lead a “turbo-charged” effort against the sale and consumption of tobacco”.
How long will this turbo-charged effort take? Well… 2040 is the turbo-charged goal? “~~possible in LESS than three decades”… there, that sounded better. THAT’S A GOAL?
I don’t have my handy-dandy calculator, and I’m not a very smart man, but that’s 25 years. If my son had a child today, that child will have graduated college and started his or her life – and about a year later, could be a part of world where 5% of the population may still be using tobacco… that’s the BEST these “angry” world health experts can come up with? The efforts to end tobacco isn’t new, is it? Tax dollars go to campaigns to “curb” tobacco every day.
This is the best they can do, and they’re health and tobacco control leaders?
The 16th annual World Conference on Tobacco or Health, chaired by W.H.O.’s Dr Douglas Bettcher and Dr Vera Da Costa e Silva, has given it’s stance on tobacco here in this link.
They have this incredibly urgent goal to end tobacco as we know it. Evidently, combustible tobacco must go and this article states that
“The *contentious issue of e-cigarettes or ENDs [electronic nicotine delivery systems] was tackled in several sessions at this week’s World Conference on Tobacco or Health”……..
*Dictionary alert: “contentious definition”
1: likely to cause disagreement or argument <a contentious issue>
2: exhibiting an often perverse and wearisome tendency to quarrels and disputes
Why is it likely to cause disagreement or argument? Are you people STUPID?
Do you want tobacco to go away or not? It’s not complicated…
You mentioned “Aggressive marketing of ENDs by the tobacco industry whose campaigns target children and young people” and I’ll get to that, but I’m trying to stay focused here, people……….
“more research into the potential harms and public health benefits of e-cigarettes is urgently needed.”
“Both panels agreed that combustion of tobacco is an obsolete process, that marketing of these ENDs to young people should be banned, and that more research into the potential harms and public health benefits of e-cigarettes is urgently needed.”
Are you kidding me? Urgently needed research??? On e-cigarettes??? Have some of you been hiding under a big pile of…cash?
RESPONSIBLE Medical Professionals; Researchers, Scientists, Doctors, Nurses, Health Professionals are at M.O.V.E.
Both of these articles are wonderful. They lead you to believe they can’t do it. Let me explain something. Less than 10 years would be an acceptable goal. Both reasonable, with the new fangled technology called an “e-cigarette”… AND I have no reason to believe that 10 years is not reachable. Anything more is stalling for time and unacceptable.
Contribution and support by ANYONE to a 25 year goal can only lead anyone smart enough to put their pants on that
when they say goal, they mean revenue.
Revenue for themselves in funding, research, taxes, and for their silent partners; corporate partners… pharmaceuticals, governments, tobacco, and health. It’s not about health. It’s not about goals. It’s about revenue and how they’re going to prolong that and how they’ll get away with it, that’s the goal……
These people make money from tobacco. Ironically, funding research for tobacco is nothing new. Neither is treating sick people. What have they been doing since the 1960’s??? Playing tiddlywinks? Crossing fingers?
Backroom deals. Looking the other way.
Your path as a smoker is paved with money for them. You smoke. Tobacco company profits. Insurance companies profit. The tax revenue is rolling in for anyone in tobacco control as well…………..
You want to quit? Pharmaceutical companies have product for that. Most have a low rate of success, but that’s ok. You’re led to believe it’s YOU. Try harder. You’ll feel guilt or sickness eventually… you’ll come back.
You get sick? Too bad…. cough – cough up some money….
Health care providers & pharmaceutical companies profit because you need medicine.
You get really sick? Cancer? Well… they told you so, didn’t you listen to the anti-tobacco ads? Now you’re costing the world money. Lets face it, you’re a number. You’re not THAT important. The government likes statistics. They thrive on numbers.You statistic, you.
Like my Father & Grandmother, they became statistics by default. Lung cancer. I miss them dearly, would give anything to have them on either side of me now, and would loved to have them alive to see these days and stupidity.
This fight is becoming rougher to fight and I need “good people” to help.
New technology, new rules. Old guard. The way of the world. Status quo. These aren’t your average battles. These aren’t your average troubles. The technology is here. The research is here.
Public health will distort a story and create a false campaign and lies big enough that the masses will believe it, and something needs to be DONE. Not what can we do, so I need someone to tell me what needs to be DONE. I’m working on that….. but it’s not working………….so:
In 25 years, I’ll be 72. Damn, there’s an eye opening moment….
Which leads me to fairy tales and children. The effect on children is a common war-cry of the “experts”. I must point out that parenting skills are obviously at an all time low in this country. First of all, if children can buy cigarettes, they can buy anything. Those are well within the market. If you’re against e-cigarettes, you’re an idiot if you’re in public health, politics or any position with a title and don’t understand that this is not tobacco – and if you can’t see why this IS about children, you need to move on
You aren’t thinking of the children. That’s your facade. That’s your war cry. That’s because you have nothing else to garner support. The list of irresponsibility in public health gets bigger and longer as the lies progress. I hear class action lawsuits are brewing to have these false claims cease & desist – you are infringing upon health. You are infringing upon rights. I’ll go with my short list for now:
Senator Barbara Boxer. A Senator. In Cali? Where the MSA funds are WAY overspent? No ulterior motives there.
Dr. Kevin Campbell. Plays a doctor on T.V. – likes to discuss “dangers” but doesn’t discuss, gives opinion and needs more time. Likes ratings.
Professor Glantz. NOT a doctor. NOT an expert, claims he’s a tobacco control expert. Loves attention.
Roger Bezanis, Not a doctor – but eludes to being one. Takes photos of sick people, claims they are vapers and loves fruits and smacking himself in the head with frying pans.I’m not sure I spelled his name right – maybe it’s Beavis, as in butthead.
Judy Judd.Not a doctor. Not an expert. Tobacco control, apparently.
Dr. Charles J Bentz Thinks he’s a doctor, evidently now a “guest” writer.
ALL of you above are against something that takes people away from tobacco. Why aren’t your efforts heavily and completely focused on tobacco? Guilty by association, I can only presume you want people to smoke and like spewing drivel… dripping down your chins…. you irresponsible greedy self-indulgent pricks. You’re not thinking of children. Define slander.
I’m not sure what kind of fairy tales I’ll tell my first grandchild and how the story will end, but I’ll peer into the future for a moment.
How it may go:
Grandpa, did you smoke? Yes I did, but I found a way to stop without any detrimental effects after trying many other ways that didn’t work with what they called an e-cigarette- it was amazing – electronic – you can probably find my blog if they haven’t censored it yet on the internet… it was the “vaping truth”…… It was around a while, no troubles… as irresponsible “experts”, officials and governments started seeing what was going on, pointed out by greedy corporations and self-indulgent lobbyists, they took control of it by first saying it was bad, then by regulating it, then taxing it, then ultimately banning and continuing to control it. I couldn’t access it and by what they said, it was worse than tobacco, so I just went back to smoking… Listen, if you never hear another word from me, please know that I hope you never start smoking, you’ll end up like me. Helpless and on oxygen.
How I hope it goes:
Grandpa, did you smoke? Yes I did, but I found a way to stop without any detrimental effects after trying many other ways that didn’t work. Your father saw my struggle and thankfully never smoked, but witnessed my struggle and ultimately my success with what was called an e-cigarette. That struggle of trying to quit led him to understand that he shouldn’t smoke. I found a way to stop and thankfully there were responsible experts & authorities who had the nerve to stand up to very powerful people, governments & corporations, recognizing that the e-cigarette is an amazing technological tool for millions. Your Great-Grandfather didn’t live to see it, but would have embraced it.
It sounds good to say “endgame”…. but really it’s not an endgame. It’s just a game. Lives are at stake, and 25 years is much too long to entrust this responsibility of millions of lives with irresponsible people.
Please, give Clive Bates an honest visit to get his points on the tobacco endgame. In 25 years, I hope I can portray my thoughts 1/25th as well as he does:
California public health, you tried again with your #stillblowingsmoke campaign…… face it, you’re still supporting smoking! (well you’re supporting your own $$$ revenue habit by misleading the public).
You have an ad with CHILDREN vaping in it???? How responsible…. you’re still wasting hard earned MSA tax dollars. What will those supporters think this time knowing you’ve spent 75 MILLION dolllars and it’s all gone up in smoke?
Keep On #Vaping On.