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Vaping In The News – March 25th, 2017

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Vaping In The News – March 19th – 25th, 2017

Nicotine Addiction ~ Canada ~ Austrailia ~ Professor Glantz ~ E-cigarette myths should go up in smoke ~ Dr. Farsalinos ~ Common Sense ~ Conspiracy ~ Battery Safety ~ A New Leaf: Vaping, E-Cigs & The Future of Tobacco at SXSW 2017


FUNDRAISER

Nicotine Addiction: An Open 30-Day Public Health Challenge.

This is a fundraiser for ecigarette-research.org for further research by Dr. Farsalinos and his colleagues and a challenge for public health to prove nicotine addiction without tobacco or MAOI’s.

So far the challenge has raised $215.00, and one challenge has been submitted.

While many have been shown the challenge, there have been no submissions from “public health experts“:

Nicotine Addiction: An Open 30-Day Public Health Challenge


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Canada:

Tobacco is safe. It’s just formalities.

David Sweanor…has been refused the opportunity to testify on Bill S-5 before the Senate Standing Committee of Social Affairs, Science and Technology (SOCI).

You can show your support here with this ThunderClap:

#LetDavidSpeak:


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Australia:

More formalities. Tobacco is still safe.

I will remind you of Clive Bates:

Do not read this or discuss it and in no circumstances should you comment

Then you can read this.

Scheduling delegate’s final decisions, March 2017.


Africa

They don’t want vaping in Africa. They like tobacco. Good to know.


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The Emporer has blogged.

Glantz, who isn’t one of the elite royalty mentioned in this report, decided “As one of the 120 “leaders” who responded to the poll used to construct this document”, he strongly objects to the use of the subtitle, and spelled “necessarily” incorrectly as “necessarity” wrong – which leads one to believe he may, might, could  – or it is possible, he’s an idiot.

If you’re unfamiliar with Professor Glantz, he’s covered here from Paul: Rotund Reaver.

I’ve blogged about the mechanical genius here and here.

New report does not necessarity reflect “the views of 120 leaders in tobacco control”


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Tobacco Control Experts

Tobacco control experts have so much blood time on their hands – they have to waste time with a conspiracy session.

Drink the tea, Alice – find yourself a nice mushroom stool.

Control has wasted over 50 years sitting on the floor with crayons – pretending to “fight”.


More of this, please

In their zeal to punish the evil tobacco industry, many have thrown the baby out with the bathwater by ignoring scientific evidence, mislabeling e-cigarettes as dangerous tobacco products and stifling, and restricting access to, a technology that helps tens of thousands of people — perhaps more — safely and effectively quit smoking every year.

E-cigarette myths should go up in smoke


Speaking of Dr. Farsalinos

“He pointed to the example of a conference organised by the tobacco industry in Brussels last year, where scientists were sent letters criticising their participation by a US anti-smoking group – even though they had no links to the tobacco industry.”

Researcher claims ‘academic McCarthyism’ over e-cigarettes

One letter sent was here:

The criticisms Dr. Farsalinios speaks of in the quote with 7 others is here.

The URL was definitely not the title of the article:

www.heraldscotland. com/news /15166477.Scientist_defends_links_between_Big_Tobacco_and_vaping_industry/?ref=rss

Now, this has story has two parts, and Phil called it.

Dr. Farsalinos was misinterpreted in the article:

My job is to defend science and evidence, not any industries. In that respect, and after waiting for 24h for the journalist to revise, I am obliged to denounce an article published in the Sunday Herald Scotland in which I am MISINTERPRETED as defending links between the tobacco and vaping industries and characterizing attacks on research into vaping funded by Big Tobacco were a form of “academic McCarthyism”.

Dr. Farsalinos’ full response is here:

Defending science, NOT industries: denouncing an article in the Sunday Herald Scotland


A bit of common sense:

Berkeley Professor Uses Common Sense To Back Vaping


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Battery Safety

UL will be testing “tobacco products”:

UL, a leading global safety science organization, is announcing acceptance of product submittals of electronic cigarettes, also known as e-cigarettes, for construction evaluation, testing and North American certification.

E-Cigarette Construction Evaluation Now Provided by UL

Battery safety is also covered here, here & here


What Jason is LINKING to is HERE.


A New Leaf: Vaping, E-Cigs & The Future of Tobacco at SXSW 2017.

It’s an hour well worth spending with Cynthia Cabrera, Dr.Sally Satel, and  David Sweanor, J.D.


NEWS from my friends across the pond: Vapers.org.uk.

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Top 10 “things” that piss me off about #ecigs.

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You know what pisses me off aside from the obvious? A lot. I don’t like that. There’s nothing I can do about it, but it scorches my ass.

Certainly we all have pet peeves. Some things bother a few, a few things bother many, and this is my partial list.

There’s plenty more, but I’ve tried to narrow it down for time and space. If you’re not a regular reader, thanks for joining me. If I have to warn you about hurting your feelings or being offended, I just did.

Hydrate. Relax. It’s all in good fun. I hope you laugh, and then move on.

I know you’re excited, so here are my Top 10 “things” that piss me off about #ecigs.


#10. ENDS.

Your e-cigarette will NOT be referred to as an “Ends“. The “scientific” and “health” community likes to call them that. No. Because they’re idiots. They probably spent a million dollars in research to come up with that acronym because P.E.N.I.S. was taken.

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Please do not refer to your device, gear, rig, setup or e-cigarette as “ENDS”, unless you’re referring to it this way: Yes, that is  (pick any name – I call mine Martha)____, ___ “ends” my smoking.


#9. Journalists.

If you’re a public health expert, just go here

Journalists, I AM here to help.

Stop “describing an e-cig” to fill your word count. If you can’t figure out how to start an article without describing an e-cigarette for the first paragraph, adding in the children or other wibble quotes on the second, and repeating the same shit about the first two paragraphs for the remainder of the article, find another occupation.

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Do some investigative work. You know, your job. If you’re a “journalist”, get your balls from your significant other, bring them to your keyboard and grab the world by the scruff of the neck.

Bring your nose closer to the screen and find some research and science to write about. Instead of trying to kiss ass and pretend you’re right, try, and I know this sounds scary  – the truth.

Once that truth has slapped you upside your head, here’s a thought: Ask these people you quote what the health implications of deceiving the public will be. That should get you in to the big parties. Wear something nice.


#8. Everyone

(You too, Journalists)

Don’t refer to Stanton Glantz as a “scientist” or a Doctor.. He is neither. He wouldn’t know a beaker if he had one stuck up his ass.

He’s part of the reason smokers were freezing their ass off outside when they smoked.

He’s part of the Rotund Reaver Association.

He also needs to talk to the math department and take a class.

The other three goons- Capewell, Mckee and Chapman aren’t scientists, either.


#7. Smoking and OIL

People, your “e-juice” is not OIL. It is e-liquid. Happy juice if you must. It is not “oil”. I’ll accept e-juice, but cautiously. Only scientists, journalists and health “officials” can continue to say “oil” when referring to e-liquid.

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Don’t say “oil”. It separates us from those who drag their knuckles on the way to “work” and us common folk.

Vaping isn’t smoking.

Unless you use a pipe shaped vaping device, don’t get me started on “e-pipe”.


#6. Battery Safety

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If you’re going to continue to try to set yourselves ablaze, at least carry a bag of marshmallows with you at all times for your friends. For fucks sake. Stop trying to catch yourselves on fire.

If you DON’T want to stop yourselves from catching on fire and WANT to have your 15 minutes of fame – be productive and at least mention that you should’ve listened to CASAA’s advice to the news crews and the emergency crews who responded to your stupid ass lack of knowledge.


#5. “Marketing” to children

I don’t see this as much as I used to, but if you make your oil e-juice DAMMIT ~  e-liquid –  with cartoons plastered all over the bottle or are using copyrighted material, or intellectual property, you have no intellect and your juice is probably shit. Then you could be sued, and someone will take your property for stealing theirs.

Stop doing that. Vaping has enough problems looking legitimate without your half-assed dirty bath water. Oil. e-juice. Dammit. E-liquid! Irresponsible. It looks like you’re marketing to children whether you’re doing it or not. Change the label. Make your money. Be well.

PEOPLE, If it has cartoons on it, stop buying it.


#4. That’s Not Good Enough

I don’t CARE if you’re dual using or using a cig-a-like. I don’t CARE if you’re using a $400 mod or dripping or cloud blowing. Don’t dismiss anyone starting out, don’t dismiss or become a critic for the device someone else is using.

Everyone is different. They aren’t you. Some are not in the mood for your lecture – they already are on the same playing field using different equipment. They’ll “move up” if they like.

“You can smoke and vape. In fact, I encourage it. “Dual-use“.”

Some like the hassle-free convenience of cig-a-likes. Some like me, using an ego style battery and my little old CE4 – just want to not smoke. I’ve used an MVP, and I recently “inherited” an Istick 30 from my son. I like it, but carry my ego as well.

There’s a fine line between educating and berating. Kind of like this top 10 list.

Think of it this way: Imagine your Grandmother as SHE walked into a Vape Shop

Nicotine strength is next.


#3. Nicotine strength

Part I:

First, vape shops. Stop limiting nicotine strength with your product line. Remember who your first time customer is. If you have 0-9-12 but a customer would have succeeded with 14+ you’ve lost a customer. Sure, you sold them that bigass mod they were intimidated with and may never try again, but you’re paying bills. Stop that. Also look back up at #4.

Let Grandma feel comfortable. Stop scaring people.

Part II:

I know you’re living in a universe I left a few years ago, it’s nice to visit, but I wouldn’t want to live there again. So, PEOPLE:

NICOTINE IS —>NOT ADDICTIVE<—

Stop saying that it is…

#SorryNotSorry I screamed at you.

Thank you.


#2. BE aware of the fight

If you are a vendor – are you a member of a trade organization?

If you are a consumer – are you a member of a consumer organization?

Is your shop a member of a trade organization? ASK THEM!

Links are all over this blog for those. No excuses.

Tell your friends. Tell your neighbors. Talk to your cat. Put a sign on your dog while you walk him. Talk to others walking their dogs. Everyone needs to know what the government is doing – or more appropriately, trying to keep us and others from having a choice.


#1. You’re not loud enough

Start knowing. If you don’t know, read. Ask questions. TALK to people. Be educated. If I don’t know something, I ask questions. Find valid sources for your questions about ANYTHING. Legislative, safety, ingredients, research, or other questions you have. Then get LOUDER.


#HR1136

Put up your dukes.

Don’t be shy.

Make some noise.

Get LOUDER.

“Regulations should be based on evidence and the FDA doesn’t have the evidence to say that vaping is a harmful product.” ~ Congressman Tom Cole


The fight for ourselves is nowhere near the end. Educating EVERYONE from our local city government to the highest offices in the land is essential.

This is the most important thing in the United States at the moment for the vaping community:

Rep. Tom Cole (R-OK) Discusses the Cole-Bishop Amendment with Nicopure Labs

Here as well:

Cole and Bishop Introduce The FDA Deeming Authority Clarification Act of 2017

Here as well:

Hope for vapers: New bill could halt FDA e-cigarette prohibition

Pending here:

H.R.1136


My article on Vaping Media is here:

Vaping Regulations Should Be Based On Evidence: Cole-Bishop Amendment

 


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Ecigs: Paradigm shift or Pavlov’s dog?

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Have you noticed a shift in in reporting in the United States about e-cigs? Have they completely lost their minds? No… If you start to notice it, there’s a reason. On August 8th, 2016, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) deemed nicotine as tobacco –  and took the reign over ecigs.

It’s mind-boggling how nicotine and such things as batteries being defined as tobacco products can make an expert think.



The public has suffered an onslaught of headlines, #fakenews and click-bait touting “A million more times harmful” and “formaldehyde”. A chorus of experts have sung everyone’s classic “Think Of The Children™ in tune to garner support.

Americans have been settling for less.

This change in the weather has taken a LOT of work. Health groups have been working in tandem to demonize e-cigs without fail to create the controversy, to control public opinion, to keep resistance to a bare minimum. Now it’s suppertime.

Not so long ago, e-cigs were bad. There are astounding examples and a great blog by Robert Innes about that here:

But I Am Hardly an Expert…





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Now, since the FDA has defined nicotine as a “tobacco product”, a paradigm shift has occurred. There must be one big-ass mass email of “ok folks, let’s roll the other way now” put out by tobacco control.

Not all, but some organizations are posting “less hateful” news. I predict more.


The government is serving pie.

 



*DING

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The bell has rung. They don’t care about safety, children, chemicals or your “journey” to stop smoking. Now they’re motivated. There is official drooling and control.

Please, smoke ’em if you got ’em- and now taxes of your vaping products will be sufficient.

The association with “safer” in the health world is the addiction trigger to all who, directly or indirectly operate with or, are funded by, tobacco tax –  as e-cigs become surprisingly more acceptable.

“When it’s over I predict that each camp will claim plausible deniability to the fact that it takes someone from smoking, keeps them from smoking, and keeps all involved from revenue unless it is deemed & taxed like a tobacco product.”

(Please, KEEP SMOKING! Plausible Deniability, an Incestuous Relationship.)

Get your napkins. The”taxing of nicotine” bell has rung.

You can almost hear the good intentions coming down tobacco roads.

You can almost smell fresh pie cooking. (Thanks FIG!)

UCSF Awarded $20M Federal Grant on Tobacco Regulatory Sciences

 


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E-cigarettes: Smokers, knowledge is power.

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Fear is a lack of knowledge. Knowledge is power. To find valuable information – credible information  – about vaping and e-cigarettes isn’t difficult. You have to know where to look, understand information as it is presented to you, and use it to make decisions for yourself.

To begin your journey, to expand your knowledge, you have places to go.


There are hundreds, if not thousands of personal blogs covering vaping in the research, legislative, political, scientific, and personal arena of e-cigarettes.

Sharing information about e-cigarettes is essential, and for some, a passion to educate others with accurate and forthright information.


One individual (listed) schooled me quickly and privately about nicotine. I was drinking the kool-aid up to that moment and he opened my eyes to the vast and valuable opportunity of learning.

Another individual listed fired me up so much to fight, I started my own blog.

You don’t always have to agree with individuals in “every” instance, but be open minded, take their vantage point and learn.




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How we gain continuous knowledge about e-cigarettes, and what we need to learn via perspective from which it comes, holds weight. Not restrained with “deadlines”, angles or sponsors where there may be bias, individual consumers themselves have skill, direct impact and ability to communicate what needs to be said with vigor and style all their own.

Despite the vast claims “experts” manufacture, we, as individuals, are the experts.




This is an example of a journalist withholding knowledge and information  – from Sarah Knapton – Telegraph’s Science Editor.

It is yet another example of what we’re fighting against as individuals.




Personal bloggers

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These few, for different reasons, have their admirable style and grace. You can find humor, be outraged and find a gold mine of truthful information. Consumers all over the world are looking for the bad about e-cigarettes – just as hard as the good – and tell it like it is.

You can be engrossed in the veracity and tenacity of their views and learn.




Alan Beard

Alan Beard


Bruce Nye

Revelations of a Steam Powered Human


David Dorn

The Sun Also Rises


Deb Iten

Lounge Vapor


Fergus Mason

FergusMason.com


John Summers

GlosVaper


Lorien Jollye

The Exit Door Leads In


Meaghan C.

VapeMeStoopid


Morten Moe

The Vaping Giraffe


Neal Roff

Flow My Tears


Norbert Zillatron

Musings about vaping and science


Paul Barnes

Facts Do Matter


Robert Innes

Brainy Furball


Steve K

Steve K’s Vaping World


Vaping Point Liz

Vaping Point




Tobacco & Vaping

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These folks, in one form or another, are professionals with insight from another land. Clear cut, distinct and informative.

Atakan Erik Befrits

Atakan Befrits


Bernd Mayer

Bernd Mayer – A Scientists View about nicotine and tobacco


Brad Rodu

Tobacco Truth


Carl V. Phillips

Carl V. Phillips: Anti-THR Lies and related topics


Clive Bates


Dick Puddlecoat


Michael Seigel

The Rest of the Story




Writers

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Some, beyond a blog, are impeccable.

Daniel Hall / Vaping First

Daniel Hall


Guy Bentley / Reason

Guy Bentley


Jacob Sullum / Forbes

Forbes / Jacob Sullum


James Dunworth

James Dunworth


Jim McDonald / Vaping 360

Jim McDonald


Jérôme Harlay / Vaping Post

Jérôme Harlay


Lee Johnson

Lee Johnson




You just want facts.

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Chris Price:

EVERYTHING e-cigarette and politics.

Ecigarette Politics


David Goerlitz

This blog is a must read for smokers and vapers.

David Goerlitz, The Former Winston Man


Dr Konstantinos Farsalinos & Team

~They~ say we “need more research”. Well. It’s here.

E-cigarette Research


M.O.V.E.

Doctors, Nurses, Researchers, Scientists. Medical Professionals. Period.

M.O.V.E.


Nicotine Science and Policy

MANY links within, the no-nonsense section of the world for nicotine/science & policy.

Nicotine Science and Policy


Tobacco Control Tactics

See the other side.

Tobacco Control Tactics


Vapers In Power

A political movement in the U.K.

Vapers In Power


Vapers.org.UK

Although the title says “UK”, this is a daily source of news gathering e-cig and tobacco news from around the world.

Vapers.Org.UK



You can go to these resources to expand your knowledge about e-cigarettes.



Final thoughts

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As an example of what is out there, there are many more doing things behind the scenes.

Everyone has a role in fighting – no matter what medium they use. The list of individuals and sites above is certainly not everyone. There are individuals writing and calling politicians, going to meetings. Starting websites. Educating their Doctors. Tweeting. Giving testimonies in court. With every breath you take, find that role.



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The health implications of e-cigs according to U.S. agency experts.

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Prestigious “non-profit agencies” such as the American Cancer Society, American Lung Association,  American Heart Association, Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids and all of their state and local “affiliates” are unwilling to stand up for the public, placing their fiscal priorities before public health.

Joining them are government agencies like the Centers for Disease Control & Dr. Tom Frieden (CDC), Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Surgeon General Murthy, Secretary Burwell, and MANY more who will not accept or endorse vaping products as a valid tobacco harm reduction choice.

Because you trust them.

They wouldn’t lie to you, they have your best interest at the core of your health.



Kevin, you can’t be serious!?!

Yep! As serious as a smoker wanting to quit.

They won’t endorse LESS smoking?

Not at all. Unless it is with an approved method.

For NO reason? Aren’t they’re supposed to help consumers? Guide them? Give them advice? Instead, we’re on our own?

Yep. You’d think the American public would need expect no less than balanced and up to date information, evidently that is not standard operating procedure with the United States “health” organizations and their vast network of “affiliates” – or the government.

Doesn’t that seem ODD to you?



Public Health thinks this is a win

I’d like to see a judge rule quickly, that non-profit “public health” & Government agency defendants have violated civil & federal racketeering laws as a result of a decade-long conspiracy to deceive the American public about the much less harmful effects of e-cigarette use and the knowledge of e-cigarettes being at least 95% safer.

In the past decade, the lack of honest and beneficial information being withheld on e-cigs by those above have resulted in continued tobacco use and thereby benefiting those involved with their fiscal decisions to continue their own revenues including taxes, grants, funding and investments by coercing public opinion with propaganda, while acting desperately to avoid responsibility for their actions.


“When tobacco use decreases, less smoking occurs”.


This letter, “signed by 53 leading scientists has warned the World Health Organization not to classify e-cigarettes as tobacco products, arguing that doing so would jeopardize a major opportunity to slash disease and deaths caused by smoking.”

That’s from Reuters, here.

In full via NicotinePolicy.net here:

Statement from specialists in nicotine science and public health policy

 


Update 1026/16:

AGAIN, responsible people in the world have now written this:

COMMENTARY ON WHO REPORT ON ELECTRONIC NICOTINE DELIVERY SYSTEMS AND ELECTRONIC NON-NICOTINE DELIVERY SYSTEMS

 


“The largest threat to is an informed consumer.”

Public Health

Public health refers to “the science and art of preventing disease, prolonging life and promoting health through organized efforts and informed choices of society, organizations, public and private, communities and individuals.” according to Wikipedia

  • Science and art of preventing disease
  • Prolonging life and promoting health through organized efforts

I’ve covered public health and their challenges they face with understanding harm reduction here.


“Health” organizations in the United States have been heavily opposing vaping products and have NOT endorsed them as tobacco harm reduction products because they are not “approved” by the FDA.

According to regulations released August 8th, 2016, it is illegal for retailers to give advice to consumers. They can’t do that anymore.


You’re not going to shut consumers or organizations up.

Here’s some examples:



THESE are national consumer and industry organizations in the United States who keep US informed.


 

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Thank you, Kat York!

That link is here: Who Is My Representative

 

 


Being an inquisitive soul, I decided all on my own over the past few months to ask this direct question on Twitter to MANY “experts”, including ALL of the above. To create a source of non-responses. Each account is active. Each account spouts something nearly every day. Each got the same or similar variant of the same question:

Any comment on the health implications of deceiving adult smokers with regs of #ecigs as “tobacco products”?


I want answers.


I’ve asked the Director of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), Tom Frieden.

I’ve asked the Surgeon General, Vivek Murthy.


I’ve ASKED the President & CEO of the American Lung Association, Harold Wimmer:


I’ve asked CEO of the American Cancer Association, Gary Reedy:


I’ve asked “Truth Initiative”:

 


More than once, I’ve asked the American Heart Association CEO Nancy Brown:


I’ve asked the American Medical Association:


I’ve asked the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids:


I’ve asked the Food and Drug Administration:


Among others, I’ve asked Senators Blumenthal and Boxer:


I’ve asked the PRESIDENT of the United States, Barack Obama:


I’ve asked tobacco control “expert” Professor Glantz:

 


I’ve asked former Centers for Disease Control Director, Michael Erikson:

 


Among other questions, I chose to ask Secretary Burwell to the premier of A Billion Lives:


Not only did I ask Sec. Burwell, I was hedging my bets – asking tobacco control “expert”  Ruth Malone, Dr. Judy Monroe (President/CEO of CDCFound) AND Margaret Cuomo to the premier of A Billion Lives.

There was not ONE response from ANY of these “agencies”. Not one.

No ANSWERS?  They’re the authority?

 

WHY is this acceptable?

WHY are we putting up with this?

WHY are they getting away with it?

 


IF

the claims by agencies of 480,000 deaths a year from tobacco and related disease is of concern to all of those above, they would do anything in their power to CHANGE that.

They don’t have that desire.

In order to keep the lie alive, their “defense” is, and their ONLY continued efforts and “concerns” are always focused on:

Nicotine. Children. Public Health. Funding.


WHY?

Because they WANT you to smoke.They are promoting combustible tobacco.

Here’s why:

WHO declined to be interviewed for A Billion Lives?


“If you care”

These are just some of the people in the United States government protecting the sales of cigarettes:

Dr. Robert Califf, Deputy Commissioner of the United States Food and Drug Administration’s Office of Medical Products and Tobacco since January 2015. He was appointed after his predecessor, Margaret Hamburg “left” the position, who is facing R.I.C.O. statutes.

Dr. Tom Frieden has been since 2009 the Director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Acting Administrator of the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry.

Mitch Zeller, Mitch postures and “leads FDA’s efforts to reduce the disease and death from tobacco use and bring previously unavailable information about its dangers to light”.

Sylvia Mathews Burwell, the 22nd Secretary of Health & Human Services.

Surgeon General Vivek Murthy, MD, MBA, laughingly serves as America’s doctor, “providing info to improve public health



FDA Poised to Issue Rule that Will Be Devastating for Public Health, and Possibly Unconstitutional

Why Grover Norquist Won’t Stop Fighting for Your Right to Vape

E-cigarette news you can use

Every day ~ Monday thru Friday ~ is here from my friends across the pond at Vapers.org.uk.


E-cigarette Research is HERE.

MORE e-cigarette research is also HERE.

If you are a Professional  go HERE.


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Nicotine is not addictive.

David Goerlitz, The Former Winston Man: “The Gloves Are Off


Alerted to a new site, Consumers For Advocacy.

Please visit them here:

Consumers For Advocacy

More to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

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25 Years & Fairy Tales, E-cigarettes, Tobacco Control & Children!

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Tobacco or health. It’s a battle I myself have fought – smoked over 30 years. The choice to smoke cigarettes is a personal one. There are people who want to end that choice, and seem to be on a mission.

Please, for your sake, don’t get your panties in a bunch. Breathe if you can. There’s actually no worries right now. Don’t believe their claims of urgency. It’s not THAT important. In fact, smoke ’em if you’ve got them ~there is plenty of time.

That’s right, plenty of time.  There’s no need to rush the tobacco stores, no need to stockpile. For goodness sake, you don’t need to find a video on youtube on how to grow your own tobacco – there will be plenty to go around, and experts are assuring us of that!

As a matter of fact, I wouldn’t worry at ALL. They’re not sure about e-cigarettes either…. so you’ve got at least another 25 years according to recent “leading” public health since there’s an invigorating turbo-charged effort.


An Article in The Lancet has stated :

“Leading public health researchers call for the sale of tobacco to be phased out by 2040……with sufficient political support and stronger evidence-based action against the tobacco industry, a tobacco-free world – where less than 5% of adults use tobacco – could be possible in less than three decades“.

“could be possible”  ????    Are you serious? Is this a bad joke??? I thought this was important. 

“with a call on the United Nations (UN) to lead a “turbo-charged” effort against the sale and consumption of tobacco”.

How long will this turbo-charged effort take? Well… 2040 is the turbo-charged goal? “~~possible in LESS than three decades”… there, that sounded better. THAT’S A GOAL?


I don’t have my handy-dandy calculator, and I’m not a very smart man, but that’s 25 years. If my son had a child today, that child will have graduated college and started his or her life – and about a year later, could be a part of world where 5% of the population may still be using tobacco… that’s the BEST these “angry” world health experts can come up with? The efforts to end tobacco isn’t new, is it? Tax dollars go to campaigns to “curb” tobacco every day.


This is the best they can do, and they’re health and tobacco control leaders?


The 16th annual World Conference on Tobacco or Health, chaired by W.H.O.’s Dr Douglas Bettcher and Dr Vera Da Costa e Silva,  has given it’s stance on tobacco here in this link.

They have this incredibly urgent goal to end tobacco as we know it. Evidently, combustible tobacco must go and this article states that

“The *contentious issue of e-cigarettes or ENDs [electronic nicotine delivery systems] was tackled in several sessions at this week’s  World Conference on Tobacco or Health”……..

*Dictionary alert: “contentious definition”

 
1:  likely to cause disagreement or argument <a contentious issue>
2:  exhibiting an often perverse and wearisome tendency to quarrels and disputes

Why is it likely to cause disagreement or argument? Are you people STUPID?

Do you want tobacco to go away or not? It’s not complicated…

You mentioned  “Aggressive marketing of ENDs by the tobacco industry whose campaigns target children and young people” and I’ll get to that, but I’m trying to stay focused here, people……….

“more research into the potential harms and public health benefits of e-cigarettes is urgently needed.”

“Both panels agreed that combustion of tobacco is an obsolete process, that marketing of these ENDs to young people should be banned, and that more research into the potential harms and public health benefits of e-cigarettes is urgently needed.”

Are you kidding me? Urgently needed research??? On e-cigarettes??? Have some of you been hiding under a big pile of…cash?

Research: E-Cigarette Research

RESPONSIBLE Medical Professionals; Researchers, Scientists, Doctors, Nurses, Health Professionals are at M.O.V.E.


Both of these articles are wonderful. They lead you to believe they can’t do it. Let me explain something. Less than 10 years would be an acceptable goal. Both reasonable, with the new fangled technology called an “e-cigarette”… AND I have no reason to believe that 10 years is not reachable. Anything more is stalling for time and unacceptable.


Contribution and support by ANYONE to a 25 year goal can only lead anyone smart enough to put their pants on that

when they say goal, they mean revenue.

Revenue for themselves in funding, research, taxes, and for their silent partners; corporate partners… pharmaceuticals, governments, tobacco, and health. It’s not about health. It’s not about goals. It’s about revenue and how they’re going to prolong that and how they’ll get away with it, that’s the goal……


These people make money from tobacco. Ironically, funding research for tobacco is nothing new. Neither is treating sick people. What have they been doing since the 1960’s??? Playing tiddlywinks? Crossing fingers?

Backroom deals. Looking the other way.

Your path as a smoker is paved with money for them. You smoke. Tobacco company profits. Insurance companies profit. The tax revenue is rolling in for anyone in tobacco control as well…………..

You want to quit? Pharmaceutical companies have product for that. Most have a low rate of success, but that’s ok. You’re led to believe it’s YOU. Try harder. You’ll feel guilt or sickness eventually… you’ll come back.

You get sick? Too bad…. cough – cough up some money….

Health care providers & pharmaceutical companies profit because you need medicine.


You get really sick? Cancer? Well… they told you so, didn’t you listen to the anti-tobacco ads? Now you’re costing the world money. Lets face it, you’re a number. You’re not THAT important. The government likes statistics. They thrive on numbers.You statistic, you.

Like my Father & Grandmother, they became statistics by default. Lung cancer. I miss them dearly, would give anything to have them on either side of me now, and would loved to have them alive to see these days and stupidity.

This fight is becoming rougher to fight and I need “good people” to help.


New technology, new rules. Old guard. The way of the world. Status quo. These aren’t your average battles. These aren’t your average troubles. The technology is here. The research is here.

Public health will distort a story and create a false campaign and lies big enough that the masses will believe it,  and something needs to be DONE. Not what can we do, so I need someone to tell me what needs to be DONE. I’m working on that….. but it’s not working………….so:


fairy talesIn 25 years, I’ll be 72. Damn, there’s an eye opening moment….

Which leads me to fairy tales and children. The effect on children is a common war-cry of the “experts”. I must point out that parenting skills are obviously at an all time low in this country. First of all, if children can buy cigarettes, they can buy anything. Those are well within the market. If you’re against e-cigarettes, you’re an idiot if you’re in public health, politics  or any position with a title and don’t understand that this is not tobacco – and if you can’t see why this IS about children, you need to move on

You aren’t thinking of the children. That’s your facade. That’s your war cry. That’s because you have nothing else to garner support. The list of irresponsibility in public health gets bigger and longer as the lies progress. I hear class action lawsuits are brewing to have these false claims cease & desist – you are infringing upon health. You are infringing upon rights. I’ll go with my short list for now:

Senator Barbara Boxer. A Senator. In Cali? Where the MSA funds are WAY overspent? No ulterior motives there.

Dr. Kevin Campbell. Plays a doctor on T.V. – likes to discuss “dangers” but doesn’t discuss, gives opinion and needs more time. Likes ratings.

Professor Glantz. NOT a doctor. NOT an expert, claims he’s a tobacco control expert. Loves attention.

Roger Bezanis, Not a doctor – but eludes to being one. Takes photos of sick people, claims they are vapers and loves fruits and smacking himself in the head with frying pans.I’m not sure I spelled his name right – maybe it’s Beavis, as in butthead.

Judy Judd.Not a doctor. Not an expert. Tobacco control, apparently.

Dr. Charles J Bentz Thinks he’s a doctor, evidently now a “guest” writer.

ALL of you above are against something that takes people away from tobacco. Why aren’t your efforts heavily and completely focused on tobacco? Guilty by association, I can only presume you want people to smoke and like spewing drivel… dripping down your chins…. you irresponsible greedy self-indulgent pricks. You’re not thinking of children. Define slander.


I’m not sure what kind of fairy tales I’ll tell my first grandchild and how the story will end, but I’ll peer into the future for a moment.


How it may go:

Grandpa, did you smoke? Yes I did, but I found a way to stop without any detrimental effects after trying many other ways that didn’t work with what they called an e-cigarette- it was amazing – electronic – you can probably find my blog if they haven’t censored it yet on the internet… it was the “vaping truth”…… It was around a while, no troubles… as irresponsible “experts”, officials and governments started seeing what was going on, pointed out by greedy corporations and self-indulgent lobbyists, they took control of it by first saying it was bad, then by regulating it, then taxing it, then ultimately banning and continuing to control it. I couldn’t access it and by what they said, it was worse than tobacco, so I just went back to smoking… Listen, if you never hear another word from me, please know that I hope you never start smoking, you’ll end up like me. Helpless and on oxygen.


How I hope it goes:

Grandpa, did you smoke? Yes I did, but I found a way to stop without any detrimental effects after trying many other ways that didn’t work. Your father saw my struggle and thankfully never smoked, but witnessed my struggle and ultimately my success with what was called an e-cigarette. That struggle of trying to quit led him to understand that he shouldn’t smoke. I found a way to stop and thankfully there were responsible experts & authorities who had the nerve to stand up to very powerful people, governments & corporations, recognizing that the e-cigarette is an amazing technological tool for millions. Your Great-Grandfather didn’t live to see it, but would have embraced it.


It sounds good to say “endgame”…. but really it’s not an endgame. It’s just a game. Lives are at stake, and 25 years is much too long to entrust this responsibility of millions of lives with irresponsible people.

Please, give Clive Bates an honest visit to get his points on the tobacco endgame. In 25 years, I hope I can portray my thoughts 1/25th as well as he does:

The tobacco endgame – a critical review of the policy ideas


California public health, you tried again with your #stillblowingsmoke campaign…… face it, you’re still supporting smoking! (well you’re supporting your own $$$ revenue habit by misleading the public).

You have an ad with CHILDREN vaping in it???? How responsible…. you’re still wasting hard earned MSA tax dollars. What will those supporters think this time knowing you’ve spent 75 MILLION dolllars  and it’s all gone up in smoke?

http://notblowingsmoke.org/


Keep On #Vaping On.

Kevin

E-Cigs & Vaping. Fighting For Livelihood, Fighting For Lives. Here’s a phone number.

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Some are fighting for their livelihood; some are fighting for lives.

 David Goerlitz would like a phone call or an email and is offering HELP.

Here’s his email and phone number.

He stated the phone line is open:

609-234-0220.

He’s also available at his email:

kgkjkl@yahoo.com…..

He’s not joking and neither am I…


Don’t know who Mr. Goerlitz is? I didn’t either till around December. I’ll get back to that.


W.H.O. , Governments. Politicians. Health Care. Health Organizations like the American Lung / Heart Associations. Anti-Tobacco. Tobacco. Pharmaceutical Companies. Doctors. Nurses. Pharmacies.

Big Corporations carrying those products that are to keep you well like drug stores and supermarkets. They’re doing the best they can fighting as well.


They have to keep money coming in, or they’ll lose a foothold. At what cost? I believe its at the very least the cost of lives. Those products had research/development. Lots of cash.


Those companies and conglomerates have investors. Investors want profit. It’s been said in this blog – Greg Conley of the AVA said vaping/ecigs are a disruptive technology.

I said in a previous blog somewhere It is again, disrupting alright. It’s disrupting cash flow from all of the above.


Those are people we vapers call antz. Those people are fighting for their livelihood. Grants. MSA funding. Tax dollars. Poorly portrayed reports in media. Misconstruing data. Pretending. Santa Claus. But its working. They’ve taken over. They’ve convinced the masses their way in ANY WAY & form that they can. We KNOW what they’re doing… what are WE doing???

For you who DO make noise, awesome. Someone heard you, I know I’ve heard quite a few. I’m SURE you know who are. We’ve probably crossed paths on Facebook or Twitter by now. You know where I stand…

For you who haven’t made any noise …. either stay quiet, become loud, or don’t WHINE and shrug your shoulders when regulation becomes control, taxation and possible bans………………..Yes I said bans. If you’re a reviewer, say something on your video about advocacy to your viewers. Maybe they don’t know. Put a clip of it up. Draw 30 seconds of attention to it. If you’re a vendor, you’ve got NO excuse not to be screaming….maybe not monetary, but you should be telling your customers and screaming at the government. By screaming I mean letters, phone calls, emails… I’ve SEEN a little of that on facebook & twitter….   MORE!


 With few exceptions, those supporting and involved directly with M.O.V.E, or those about to join ranks with M.O.V.E. are the source of truth. Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos and his team (my apologies for not naming names with him at the moment) are standing up to the world, standing UP to an extremely large agenda with class and purpose (they) have continuously shown for those who can’t.” There are others here & abroad.You know who you are, and I thank you.



For the record, I smoked for 30 + years. I’ve vaped almost 2 years. I lost my father to lung cancer last fall. I lost my Grandmother to lung cancer as well. We have been a family of smokers till death do they part. Duh. I miss them dearly, and had they known vaping, they’d be screaming louder than I am.


I DON’T care if you smoke, dual use, just started out… or have been vaping exclusively for years. If you’re vaping and you’re on line… you’ve got future generations needing a choice in this matter.


Are you comfortable?

Are you happy? Are you satisfied? Are you able to do it yourself? Do you care?

Are you complacent?

Full Definition of COMPLACENT

1:  marked by self-satisfaction especially when accompanied by unawareness of actual dangers or deficiencies :  marked by complacency :  self-satisfied <a complacent smile>
2:  complaisant 1
3:  unconcerned        com·pla·cent·ly adverb

 SO.

Vapers / consumers have been dependent on CASAA and the VAPING MILITIA  to fight for us. I asked someone recently if they were too passive. Too complacent. Too laid back.  I think they are.

Is it funding? is it complacency? Is is me? This is a HUGE fight. Cloud blowing and trinkets are awesome…..I’m all for it,  but there’s a much bigger battle. I’m not saying they’re not doing anything, I’m saying more needs to be done.


WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT LOUD ENOUGH.

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We’re playing footsies. Tickle tickle.


This is a fight not easily fought or won for the deeming regulation to occur in the USA…. I don’t know about funding, money, lobbying, cash flow, donations, calls to action, none of that bullshit either, it’s not my expertise and I’ve never run an org…….. I thankfully have a job. I enjoy social media for fun, I love the funny cat video or hand check like the next guy…. we’re all human……but I did notice THIS:


 A photo at the FDA facebook page got 7,000+ comments with a #vapingsavedmylife hashtag. I joined in… on the survey page on facebook and twitter…..

THEN I started tweeting/hitting facebook with DEEMING REGULATION.

It is about loose tobacco – pipes… it’s not just vaping……….it’s about control……………..


The tweets by me the other night were modestly retweeted about the deeming regulation and shared on facebook by a few more…   now, updated daily, the FDA site where DEEMING REGULATION will invariably happen… regulation=control=tax=bans and very stringent guidelines……………………….. As of today:

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As of today on the comments of the DEEMING REGULATION at the FDA site updated Friday:

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 That just pisses me off.

Dimitris retweeted me. A few others did too…. big accounts…to get some real action on the FDA site…..not even a “like”from some…..imagine that. BIG players in the field of vaping.

What the HELL is wrong with you people????

   There are 13,000+ on CASAA’s facebook page. There are over 8,000 on the Vaping Militia facebook page.

No, not all would see a tweet or post on that page, not all that are on facebook are members in the USA, so lets say 10 percent – that’s 2100 comments……………………………… but you can BUMP a video of a cat???

Can you pin a tweet? Can you understand you’re being played? Do you not know what this is about?

It’s about health. It’s about choice.

Finally it’s about control, and continued control of cash.

Your cash. Your children’s cash & health.

It’s about us fighting for their lives.

If you dismiss everything I’ve said about the USA above, keep going…

It’s been banned in other countries. BANNED in other countries.

That pisses me off.

I don’t know that I do everything “right”.

It’s easy to armchair the orgs from where I am. We have to keep doing SOMETHING.

now it’s up to merchants & individuals to be LOUD AS HELL as WELL….

SFATA & AVA are on that side, if you didn’t know and you’re a vendor, shame on you.



Well, David Goerlitz would like a phone call or an email to HELP. Here’s his email and phone number.

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email kgkjkl@yahoo.com……


David Goerlitz. You might recognize him, you might not. I don’t know Mr. Goerlitz myself, but was within an email only conversation with him today, and remember emailing him some time ago on FB about something. That said, I’m going to just post some of his comments – and remember – his phone line is open and if it’s busy, I’m sure he’s got voicemail. I will give his number again, and again…. at the bottom along with his blog.

“Here is where you should pay attention”


He said in part on an email:

I guess I need to tweet, twit, hash tag, or twitter to be taken seriously. I’m old school Kevin and yes you can use whatever I have for whatever you want. I don’t do selfie’s or brag about my past. But it DOES play a roll
I’ll let you read his comments.
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“can’t return a phone call”

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“609 234-0220……email kgkjkl@yahoo.com……I guess I need to tweet, twit, hash tag, or twitter to be taken seriously. I’m old school Kevin and yes you can use whatever I have for whatever you want. I don’t do selfie’s or brag about my past. But it DOES play a roll……………………”




David is, after all, the

http://formerwinstonman.com/ 

and understands what we’re up against. Read his blog. I don’t know if anyone will get this far in it, but if you don’t care, as you were. If you do care, do something, if I hurt your feelings, aww. If I pissed you off, GOOD. If I motivated you as an individual or a company… vendors I’m talking to YOU…..reviewers too…. and you’re going to be active at your B&M, good. Be aware…. it’s coming. David’s BEEN saying so. To the CASAA & Vaping Militia, if you know the knowledge he has, above and beyond what we do, and it is there to use, I won’t ask why you haven’t called David yet, I now will only ask “when will you”, and what else can I do? I’ll always be gladly willing to learn & take suggestions.


David’s number again if you missed it is

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email: kgkjkl@yahoo.com……


Roly Gate had this on E-Cigarette Politics and it is spot ON. Campaign For Truth In Public Health ***********


Well, David Goerlitz would like a phone call or an email to HELP. Here’s his email and phone number.

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email kgkjkl@yahoo.com……


Keep On #Vaping On. Kevin

Vaping works, People stop smoking. Isn’t that what they want?

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They claim there’s not enough research. They are wrong.

If you are in doubt please see E-cigarette Research Here

and here!


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Below are just a few comments (unedited, and truly worldwide) from the infamous “Bonus troll/question comment”

from The Vaping Truth Survey Final Analysis

I put this question in the survey hoping for comments. Comments were astounding!

I said from the beginning we have a voice.

Here are a just a few of your voices:


• Vaping works if you want it to work. I still crave a cigarette every now again, but I’m more likely to pick up my e-cig to satisfy that craving than I am to smoke a cigarette because I like that I feel better and I enjoy the taste of my e liquids far more than burning tobacco. I crave cigarettes, but I no longer WANT cigarettes.

• if I would have known it would be this easy I would have did this a long time ago!

• Vaping is great way to quit smoking.. regulations are fine but don’t tax it like tobacco because it’s not tobacco.. don’t make it had for small businesses to compete..

• truth

• Once I get down to 0mg of nicotine I may quit vaping as well or only keep it around when I feel an urge to smoke.

• Because vaping is amazing and I feel 1million times better I will never ever ever again give my hard earned money to big tobacco. Almost 4 months smoke free #improof

• I do still have cravings, but can vape it out.

• Vaping works for me 100%
I did not even wanted to stop smoking, after vaping i stopped direct. I even smoked a few real sigarettes, witch i hated.
Also it was really easy to lower the nicotine, and the addiction now is another level. It is okay not to vape for hours, when i smoked i really needed e new one after about 15 min.

• vaping is different, as when i was smoking, i had to have a cigarette every hour or so, but with vaping, i can go a whole day with out even craving a hit.

• Vaping is ok for smokers, not so ok for non-smokers

• because its true

• Thank God PVs were invented!

• Because it is a marvellous product that has potential to save millions of lives.

• I have tried quitting over 20 times before vaping. I strongly believe i never would have quit if i did not find out about vaping. Now i can go days without vaping.

• VAPING WORKS.

• It works for some extent for me, just need to find the willpower to quit all the cigarettes rather than just cutting down. For less nicotine dependant smokers switching to vaping completely would be relatively easy I think.

• 6 months in and I have not touched a cigarette. I have reduced my nicotine from 24-18-12 and I also can vape 10 happily too. The one thing that has always drawn me back to smoking is that I enjoy it and the act of smoking. Vaping has enabled me to keep the act and enhance my enjoyment as I stopped the coughing up of horrible stuff so feel no guilt on my health. I am in no rush to reduce nicotine but it has reduced naturally by taste, I am happy with where I am at and that is thanks to vaping.

• It worked for me.

• Need I say more.

• Worked for me!

• No desire to ever smoke a cigarette again, one day I would like to be off of nicotine, but there is no need to rush that.

• Vaping works. All governments, lobbies and haters, LEAVE US ALONE!

• Keep vaping

• Vaper for life!

• Even my wife is happy because of my not smoking anymore

• I haven’t yet thought of any reason to go back to smoking, nor any reason to look for a reason.

• For 20+ years I was a smoker (20 cigarettes a day). I don’t miss a thing since I vape!

• Why would anyone smoke again with this alternative?

• I still get a twinge to smoke every once in a while…but a quick toot and it passes…

• i dont even think of smoking now that i vape. also i have tried a cigarette once 3 monthas after i started to see if i would like it and i hated it even more!.

• I think vaping can work for many, but it still requires some will power.

• This gives me the nicotine I crave and has now become readily available

• I wont even.vape.tobacco. flavours. if vaping stays as is ill continue to wean my nic level. if were restricted to mint – hate it, tobacco – hate it, no flavour- wont satisfy I.dread wanting to smoke again so.I really hope we can.continue as.we do now with only essential saftey intervention. Not trumped up fairy tales& ifs and maybes..real vapers= real study results

• Vaping is saving my life!

• I picked up vaping as I missed the sensation of smoking. I wasn’t a smoker at the time I started but it appealed to me.
I like the fact that you can have a vape of any flavour you like, when you like. I also have a technical mind and rta etc really appeal to me.

• I just enjoy vaping even though I wasn’t a tobacco smoker.

• I know it works,I have no craving to eat ALL the time and can sleep normally.

• Vaping seems to have cured my idiocy! I feel smarter! I have my eyes wide open now about how corrupt my government and all the health agencies are, and I will never let them force me back to the death sentence tobacco is no matter what they say.

• It’s all about the individual. Many factors such as circumstances and resources will determine whether a person will combat an addiction. Since there is a current alternative available to smoking that is appealing, with a high success rate, I believe vaping works. I also think many people will use vaping temporarily and quit using nicotine completely

• I almost chose ‘I will never smoke again because of vaping’, but it feels too strong even now, when the hard part is done. I sincerely hope for the better in this manner.

• It worked

• I started smoking full on at the age of 12 when 10 No10 were 9p and I got 10p a day for bus fare to school.. For many years I tried to quit smoking but failed. I tried patches and gum on several occasions but I continued to smoke while using them. Then on 1st November 2013 I bought an ecig starter kit. I smoked my last stinky that evening the following morning I filled the carto with 24mg tobacco flavour e liquid and I have not looked back since…. 🙂

• The answer is in the question

• How many chemicals are in eliquid as compared to traditional tobacco cigarettes? That alone should get people to think about what they are doing.

• I quit cigarettes by using a vape! nuff said!

• I quit fags and a 30 year weed habit because of vaping.

• I never had any intention of stopping smoking. The only reason I vape is because I enjoy it more than smoking.

• The cig like vape i got didnt stop me wanting and having a cig but i now got a battery mod and tank (itaste v4 + nautilus mini) and its going much better

• Im adapting to it and one way to certainly make it work is to remind myself how selfish & low my government is to TAX money so they can shoved that up to their big fat rear. I for One, do and will not trade my life for money.

• The last cigarette I smoked made me know it: I’m never smoking again, that sh** is disgusting.

• I have seen it work for alot of people.

• Because vaping does work. It worked for me.



I assume if you’ve read these and still don’t believe vaping works or you’d like to explain that there are more dangers – so much that those dangers outweigh someone continuing to smoke, please, feel free to leave your comment, title and link to scientific proof – scientific proof that you’re working on or have completed.

Otherwise, if you’re a health professional, an expert or you’ve got a fancy title and think you need to elevate your ratings in the world you live in, shut up, stop spreading lies. Start quickly admitting you were wrong, please be proactive in the fact that vaping, compared to smoking, is safe. It gets people to stop smoking effectively! Isn’t that what you WANT? We’re going to ask you why you were so against it in the first place if we haven’t already. Are you one of the “experts” that would rather people smoke?

Keep On #Vaping On.

Cigarettes or E-Cigarettes. Which Product Is Safer? Let the world decide.

Everyone, from health experts, politicians, media, you can all vote. This is open to anyone.

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Lets see what the world has to say.

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I would like to acknowledge Randy Willis https://twitter.com/VapedUpGaming for the graphic.

Thank you, Randy Willis.


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