Ecigs, Vaping & Child Safety Caps. I’ll go first.

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There is a popular public display of politicians, public health & medical “experts” claiming child proof caps are a must lately. They elude to the notion is not in the hearts of those of us in the vaping community to think about children, and I’m here to tell you they are wrong.

Their posturing conveniently this gives the steadfast impression of a cult like mob mentality. They’re very good at holstering public opinion, giving the impression no one who vapes wants it. Funny it’s mentioned because I asked vapers this very question in a survey.

This cute ploy is done in many other arenas of politics…grandstanding…. thinking of the children invokes emotional response, invariable support and everyone falls for it. I call complete and well contrived bullshit. They have media on their side, all I have is a blog and some truth.

The misled raise their fists and shake their empty heads in disgust to the delight of those who have bigger plans with those bills they want to pass on vaping, e-cigarettes. Other less conspicuous agendas are behind the cry, and any variation there of: “Think about the children”.


It certainly is not about the children or public health.


If you vape and didn’t know it, A child died in New York from ingesting liquid nicotine in December of last year. I do not find this funny. The initial report stated “It does appear to be just a tragic accident,” said village police Sgt. Austin Ryan, adding that the glass bottle containing the liquid nicotine did not have a childproof cap.

That report was sadly showing more content about e-cigarettes than concern for the child.

A report by ABC News stated today “Police say the mother’s sister didn’t know the boy was going to be at the house that day and left an uncapped bottle of liquid nicotine on a low table.”


First report said “did not have a childproof cap”. Second report said “left an uncapped bottle”. Like any story, the truth is within the lines, the deception is in the content. I hate the very idea that any child would be hurt, sick, poisoned or die from negligence of any kind and it breaks my heart. Preventable? ABSOLUTELY. Adult responsibility, as with alcohol, bleach, car keys or any other adult product plays the ONLY role in this tragedy.

Case closed in Fort Plain liquid nicotine death


I have children. I have friends that vape. They have children. The propaganda behind the headlines isn’t that this innocent child died, it is that there needs to be regulation. The very idea that vapers do not WANT childproof or tamper resistant packaging is absurd and not true. Sadly and INEXCUSABLY This child died because

  • An adult left an uncapped bottle on a low table

  • An adult didn’t know the boy was going to be at the house that day

You decide whether a childproof cap would have prevented this tragedy. That is enough of that.


Below are just a few of OUR statements from vapers (Their words, no edits) about child resistant/proof containers from question number nine in the Vaping Truth Survey. There were many strong statements regarding children and safety for vaping, and they were NOT hard to find.

I feel in this instance, I will speak for every vaper out there, barring those folks with arthritis or other dexterity issues, vapers want 18+ sales for the most part and child-proofing caps are what we DO want, regardless of the spin and lack of integrity the politicians pretend to have.


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Vapers want childproof tops.

Saturday, Dec 27th


Child-resistant caps Friday, Dec 26th


No sales to children Wednesday, Dec 24th


Child abuse to parents who aren’t responsible for keeping their liquid out of the hands of the their kids Saturday, Dec 20th


childproof caps on eliquid bottles, existing consumer regs applied to batteries, that is all Wednesday, Dec 17th


As nicotine is a poison the public should be aware to keep this away from children! We don’t want to glorify it in front of them, we just want to live longer to enjoy them (the children) Saturday, Jan 24th


I should clarify that I would have absolutely no objection to minor sale bans or childproof caps either, it’s just that it’s not something I would explicitly “like” to see (as your question is phrased) since I have no children to worry about personally.

The one other thing I would say, regarding childproof caps, is that there’s a danger they will give some vapers a false sense of security (they also won’t protect pets). The best idea, in my opinion, is to simply keep all of your gear out of the reach of children and pets – whether you believe it’s safely “confined” or not. I’ve never understood why some people seem to find this so very difficult. Saturday, Jan 24th


Minimal Invasion. I see No need for Vapors to bear Sin tax due to BT tax losses. Government thievery! Child proof caps okay but then will come regulation on each and every available piece of equipment. Unacceptable to have a hand full of people dictating the lives of millions. Saturday, Jan 24th


We already have these things. Every shop I’ve been in has No one under 18 signs and don’t sell to minors. If liquid isn’t quality, people won’t buy it. Vapors are a vast community and we let newbies know not to get the stuff from the gas stations that comes from out of the country (China). I’ve never seen any bottle without a childproof cap and that can be taken care of with Parenting. Taxing it like tobacco will make it inaccessible to people who need it to quit smoking. Banning it and making more unnecessary laws is stupid and a waste of tax payer money. It’s not dangerous to bystanders. Friday, Jan 23rd


It’s not for children, but the industry has regulated itself fairly well so far. Friday, Jan 23rd


Pretty straight and forward. No sales to minors, having pure quality e-liquid, child proof caps for obvious reasons, and battery control or safety awareness. Wednesday, Jan 21st


Self-regulation has worked pretty darn well and can work well. No regulation is necessary. But we will have federal regulation and should have simple, achievable, reasonable standards in manufacturing process, e-liquid quality control, batch testing and marking, 18+ only sales, childproof caps and THAT is about it. And it MUST not be 50 different rules in 50 different states or it will destroy the marketplace. And it MUST not include one-penny of additional excise tax for two reasons – It will go up and it drives all market behavior to tobacco channels (tobacco wholesalers, not consumers, not retailers PAY the excise tax) dominated by big tobacco. And products must NOT be defined as tobacco or it will make competing with cigarettes that much more difficult and more people will smoke. And more people will die.

Wednesday, Jan 21st


There do need to be some controls in place, children should not be vaping, for example. But I also believe that this should be financially accessible to adults who want to try it to quit smoking. Taxing sales of equipment or liquid will only make smoking cigarettes more justifiable to someone who has been considering quitting them. Tuesday, Jan 20th


God please dont make anymore childproof caps. I know im an adult but they’re starting to get really frustrating! Tuesday, Jan 20th


I am quite capable of making my own decisions. I understand the risks to children and safety involved. I do not need anyone to take care of this for me. Tuesday, Jan 20th


I keep my liquid away from my children and my all my vaping equipment is looked after as I would any electrical products. My children have been educated that my (and my husband’s) ecig are ‘medicine’ and not to be played with or tried by them. Tuesday, Jan 20th


Childproof bottles and only sales to 18+ year olds? Absolutely! Regulation of materials used in pre-made coils and atomizers? Absolutely! Regulation of e-juice as a “tobacco product”? Absolutely NOT! If regulation of e-juice is in our future, it should be regulated in the same way that alcoholic beverages are. Tuesday, Jan 20th


Regulation is another word for taxation, I gave up smoking due to the high cost. Other then basic safety such as no sale to minors and child proof caps, I believe the industry can regulate it self safely and effectively. Tuesday, Jan 20th


As it is used as an alternative for getting your nicotine fix, it should be only sold to ages 18 and over, child proof bottles are a must just in case Tuesday, Jan 20th


Ecig batteries have no business being regulated by the FDA. They should be UL tested/certified and that’s it. Eliquid should have childproof caps, shrink wrap/tamper proofed, and tested for quality. Monday, Jan 19th


I would like to see all vendors be held accountable for the safety of their juice. We are putting our lives in their hands and if they are not responsible then they should be shut down. Child proof caps are necessary – juices are made with food grade flavoring and smell awesome – children won’t know the difference until they ingest it. Monday, Jan 19th


self regulation has worked, child proofing is being done without the FDA getting involved as well as self imposed age verification clean rooms being used to make juice, ect. ect. ect. Sunday, Jan 18th


Childproof caps are standard where I live as they should be. Tuesday, Jan 13th


Childproof Caps for liquid with nicotine only Monday, Jan 12th


ADDED 12/23/16

by Vaping360 / Jim McDonald:

True story: child poisoned by DIY nicotine

 


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Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

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