Media & Public Health Uncover Big Vaping Syndicate & Heads Are Rolling

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Breaking Late this afternoon breaking news hit Twitter and rocked the vaping world, and as it turns out, Simon Capewell may have been the “stool”.

Public health officials worldwide were rattling their bunson burners – firing up years of frustration in what seemed a minor victory uncovering the biggest scandal in public health since the For-mouse-a-hyde capade.


Health officials (((Worldwide on a Saturday?))) were scrambling to know who actually broke the news, odds actually ended up favoring Stanton Glantz as real “stool” – having inside information to the finally broken wall of what no one ever heard of until today, Big Vaping.

Known players were in no particular order, but were in no particular mood, either. Names were not changed to protect the guilty.

Big Stoopid Vape, AKA VapeMeStoopid, Big Vape Charlie, big*SPARKLY*vapor*SJ, Big Vapor Gords, Big Vape DrMA, Big VaEHp from Canada, Big Vapor Agent Ania (curiously “agent” in her name), Big Vapor Debora J, Big Vapor “Paulie” Paul.

Big Broony Vapor, (thought to be the muscle in unknown parts of deep Australia), Big Vapor GrammyNums, Big D Vapor, finally Alan (Big Vapor) and one unclear Johnny Truth BVShill ‏. . .


Authorities are refusing to release imminent information on exactly who broke these once thought unreachable and never together individuals thought to be known as “Big Vapor- or is it “Big Vaping”… It eludes me already.


It seems there’s never been so much as a single secret syndicate meeting – ever. It was not hard to find them – each was sitting at their computer signed into twitter, with facts and stats open in various states of windows, mac and dos computers proclaiming lots of “drivel” out loud… and muttering other slightly harsher words like “hydrate” . All seemed to have a quick wispy cloud of vapor disappearing in front of them every so often…


“Big Vapor Agent Ania” as she is known, was being handcuffed and said

“I am NOT going without my mint condition bobblehead Stefan and you can’t make me, copper”,

perplexing investigators as to what she was really trying to say, as she got in the back of the public health van she exclaimed “I just won it and it’s coming with me!” (Still thinking copper, aren’t you)


Alan (aka Big Vapor) Claims no ties, yet on his profile it clearly states “Consumer,with 0 industry ties not even Big Vapor!” – a common cover according to the experts, but he was questioned and released.


“Big Stoopid Vape” was heard saying she “wasn’t saying shit“, except this reporter could kiss her “something or other..” and they pepper sprayed her. sc


The confusion started in a tweet to someone, who tweeted someone else and the coverup was unfolding as it retweeted at least two times on 6 different accounts from 19 people in 4 minutes – before their very eyes.

Big Vaping, it seems, is similar to what the public health world calls much a more dangerous field than vaping, “Big Tobacco”. Dum Dum Dummmmm…….. Media can’t even get this right.


The similarities from two websites are obviously are even fooling the so-called experts. It seems “intelligent people” in high positions cannot tell the difference from persuasion, innuendo and flat out false statements from the State of California at stillblowingsmoke.org


– and real truth from THIS website , notblowingsmoke,org which lists advocacy sites – just like this blog does, and real science for the public- for obvious reasons.


They didn’t pay me to put advocacy on here, either. Dumm Dum Dummmmmm.


In the world e-cigs, vapers and vaping~  research and science is very important to non existent “Big Vapor”.  As a matter of fact, truth just seems to dissipate from anyone else in public health except the wonderful worldwide team of real Researchers, Doctors, Nurses, and Scientists at M.O.V.E.


One of them put together this million dollar presentation called Vaping-the-truth-USA



The conclusion; there is no “big vaping” after all, just a big bunch of wind from California – heading north and east into Canada…  as far as e-cigs go, pretty much all public health officials are still being questioned for integrity, ignoring science and possible litigation is sure to arise above the big vaping world, regardless of organization from within.


Turns out the only “industry ties” are grants from tobacco to public health researchers and tobacco control… but we already knew that, the public doesn’t, because it’s information they don’t want you to know – like the research with vaping…. Turns out heads aren’t rolling at all, just your eyes. “Big Vapor Neal” was never found, just a pile of half-eaten old rusty batteries where they thought he’d be. Now – Check Clive Bates out...

 

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READ THIS! :Tobacco Free CA poster on E-cigarettes backfires


Keep On #Vaping On.

Kevin  

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California Public Health, Tom Frieden US CDC IGNORE E-Cig Research & FDA

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The FDA hasn’t yet made its decision to deem “ecigs” a tobacco product. Evidently, Tom Frieden with the CDC, and the State of California’s Public Health Department don’t seem to care OR have to wait – or check facts from anyone to add them to their uninformed attempt at slick anti-tobacco campaigns.

In fact, it is very evident they didn’t even look for science when it comes to this technology.


With “deeming regulation” still pending over e-cigarettes, chairs are not yet cold from the recent meetings in the USA over the debate of e-cigarettes and their safety. There is quite an interest from around the world as to how safe they actually are- and they are- according to leading experts in research with these two articles as examples:

Now, here’s a golden chance to kick that cigarette butt!

E-cigarettes MUCH Safer Than Normal Smokes



Government officials are now making e-cigs part of the newest campaign for the CDC and California is as well, to convince the public they are just the same as cigarettes when they are clearly not.


This is already causing unnecessary confusion with California’s Public Health campaign, some already calling that a fiasco. These childish tactics from public health only help tobacco companies and reclaiming their tax revenue:

State Health Agency Does Big Tobacco’s Dirty Work on E-Cigarettes


Neither camp say one word on the never ending research and positive effects e-cigarettes have continued to have in combating tobacco, possibly curbing tobacco use 20-50% by the end of this decade, despite what some in public health positions may claim.

But, they are in control, and they’ve got MILLIONS of dollars to play with.



(The FDA is STILL accepting comments here until APRIL 15th, 2015)


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Ummmm did you check some valid sources first didn’t you?

You didn’t call “Dr.” Kevin Campbell, did you?

Ugh…. he doesn’t know anything either…

You’re a “Doctor”, right? No staff there to help you with google over there?

I’ll help ANY public official idiot out,

please get your nose closer to the screen:

Go ahead, now, click on it:

Ecigarette Research here,

or

E-Cigarette Research here with proper studies & papers.


Did you possibly talk with the Fellow Doctors, Scientists & Researchers

at the wonderful M.O.V.E. Organization here?


Have you seen this extensive and powerful research done by Kellie Forbes (BScN RN, a member of the M.O.V.E. organization above) to help others in PDF form: Vaping-the-truth-USA


Have you seen this site yet?

Not Blowing Smoke


Is this decision even legal? Whoops… spent all that money, too late now!

Costing lives!

Good for you. I’m impressed. We all know what damage this can do…

well  – no such thing as bad press….


You’d rather make things up for the public –  to convince and coerce, to alter the masses thought process and bundle the two together like they are the same – but they are NOT.


Wait, I get it… you want people to continue smoking! WOW!

You would rather have parents and grandparents think they are just like cigarettes so they’ll keep on smoking and then, the children they are around will be around it.

Think about those children. Is that a responsible way to act


Cigarettes are approved by the FDA. Aren’t you worried about them?


The e-cigarette, with all the research, is far safer than you can imagine.

(Thanks again Randy)

@vapedupgaming


You’ll dismiss the research above, and pretend e-cigarettes are tobacco.


Why….. I’ll bet you my first born son you’re looking for tax dollars….

I love my first born son, but this is IMPORTANT.

You think you’ve found the pot of gold, recovering  Master Settlement Revenue for all!

Creating false propaganda to pretend to bundle e-cigs with tobacco….Huh…cute!

I get it – Like… ALL Doctors have the public health in mind… kind of like that, right?

Or –  like ALL politicians are honest…. right? Wow… I’m catching on! Wink, wink, Tom!

You are SUCH a CARD!


Here, dear reader, is that pesky MSA deal some of you aren’t old enough to remember:

Revenue is more important than lives.


I found this to be of interest, with the CDC looking for cancer and patients, who smoked AND used an e-cigarette. Well, if they smoked, sadly, wouldn’t that make them predisposed to the disease regardless of trying an e-cigarette?

If I keep typing I’ll just be plagiarizing. It’s TOO good:


This article explains it better than I can from of ALL places

THE American Council on Science & Health:

The CDC in cahoots with the CA “health” dept. ramps up its anti-e-cig propaganda

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Hey, Tom… look me up – email me and we’ll exchange numbers so we can chat, would you?

   Maybe you can handle one of my tax issues at hand for me?

We can discuss real issues to tackle – like emphysema, lung cancer my Father & Grandmother both had from smoking all their lives because they didn’t have the choice of an e-cigarette and tried every other “approved” method out there.


The e-cigarette, vaping – is effective, gets people OFF tobacco and is very well researched, but, you, like all the rest want to decide whats best for others without so much as clicking on a website or making a phone call. Did you possibly try to contact Dr. Farsalinos   ??????????


I’ll bet you haven’t. He was in town… should have had coffee in a smoke free, vape free environment – like a Starbucks.


Let’s talk about Chantix… you’re a doctor… are you in favor of Chantix, you know – side effects include suicide? Why didn’t you put that on your rhetoric?

Umm… maybe your career needs a boost, ever considered working with Mr. Glantz out in California? It’s warm there………..


I’ll leave you with this link of my hero, Mr. Gutfeld from Fox and his video: Gutfeld: California Ads Trashing E-Cigs ‘Demonize With Flimsy Lies’


Keep On #Vaping ON. Kevin

Dear Stanton Glantz; I do not understand the goal of Tobacco Control .

S For Immediate Release Wednesday, March 25, 2015 To: Center for Tobacco Control / Research & Education, University of California, San Francisco. Attention: Distinguished Professor Of Tobacco Control, Stanton Glantz:


Mr. Glantz, if your goal is to get people off tobacco, as a Distinguished Professor Of Tobacco Control, I must point out that a 1st year high school chemistry student can see e-cigarettes are MUCH less harmful. I do not understand the goal and can only conclude you have become delusional. I question your “sudden” support of the CDPH. You are stating that the goal of your department and that of the CDPH is not first and foremost for public health?


You state in your blog that “It is the best thing out there so far”… now you’re back on their side? Were there doubts of their performance thus far?

One gleaming example of a long standing, ever-failing cash filled campaign is the “war on drugs”. There’s still a problem, and there’s still a war. Tobacco control, as you are well aware has its own battle scars, but I digress.


I urge you, in fact IMPLORE you to step back from this issue for a moment, think outside the box, and put your best foot forward in becoming one more of many standing up in the field with others. With resources at your disposal & your evidently proud and tenacious nature, you could help change the world.


I encourage swift, immediate healthy engagement by you and staff. Please contact the M.O.V.E. organization as Researchers, Scientists, Doctors, Nurses & other responsible Health Professionals are there. See what they have for truth & research on the matter; consider becoming a growing part of it. As a leading researcher yourself, this should be a piece of cake.


(M.O.V.E.) https://sciencecig.wordpress.com/move/ Please also see proper research that has already occurred: (Ecigarette Research) http://www.ecigarette-research.org/research/index.php


Please, if you are in doubt of the sincerity of this post, delete it. I dare you. You don’t have to answer and certainly you don’t have to post it. You are however, well aware, regardless of your views or claims by the very nature of receipt of this correspondence, there ARE answers, facts, science and research, and they are not hiding. I will post this to your blog, Twitter, Facebook and my blog will hold it for posterity. I like facts. I like engagement. You are free to come to my blog and autograph it any way you like. You know – if it’s worth the public health’s time…. (I have to “approve” comments, but I will not delete a word, so I freely invite you to do so).


It seems unimportant and ignored, even seems to conveniently elude some IN the research world, public health and media. “Gut” feelings, emotions and opinion are not science. Can’t you correspond with one another? I simply challenge you to either A. Check those two sites, contact Dr. Farsalinos directly here drfarsalinos@ecigarette-research.org with ANY question B. Dispute them at that point with your own research. Be prepared as I am sure you are, for scrutiny on how it is done.



You see, (I) we as vapers are not looking for the “best” answers to studies fitting our needs nor to be on “our side”, Mr. Glantz. Good OR bad, we are looking for the truth, and we seek those who will tell it like it is. The ONLY thing we’re not sure of is “long term” effects-that is boringly claimed  a   lot    and so far, I say not one of us has died from vaping. We’re willing to take our chances over tobacco, and we’re healthier in the process.


These have been around for more than 10 years and are still more effective and MUCH safer, in fact SAFE compared to combustible and traditional cigarettes. The fact that you deny any other alternative is ironic, irresponsible, counter-productive, and completely unacceptable to your own goal in “tobacco control”.


I am sure you are aware of tactics to other campaigns in the tobacco world. If you’re wrong once and it is corrected it is a mistake. Twice is an irresponsible act. When it is a campaign in my “uneducated” hypothesis, to deter people and without question confuse some, you keep them on combustible tobacco by the very lies perpetuated by it. Leading public health researchers’ are calling for tobacco to be phased out by 2040, a sad, costly and detrimental twenty-five year goal to many lives.


The campaign “Still Blowing Smoke” you mention in the blog is right about one thing.

This is about children and the adult relatives surrounding that child being able to have a viable choice other than tobacco, when all other options simply fall well short with traditional nicotine reduction methods. Please check and evaluate the failure rate on those. Tobacco is simply an adult choice for anyone. Get off the “control” of e-cigarettes, or get on the responsibility of proper science and research. E-cigarettes work as a way to get off tobacco for those who choose to do so and should be and remain a choice. The website Not Blowing Smoke has truth and science in it.


Well educated people can learn from those of us without “degrees”, Mr. Glantz, and are better people for it. If you’re the smartest person in the room, you need to change rooms. This is what tobacco control has been looking for all these years. It’s right in the palm of your hands. You can choose to grow a pair and effectively end tobacco without even trying, or you can continue on your path of denial as you are, or like it says in the movie you are in – – –



presenting yourself in the media, health and scientific community as an authority, yet having the contrary aim of spreading maximum confusion about well-studied public “threats” ranging from “toxic chemicals” to “cancer”- irresponsibly as you are at the moment. Does that sound familiar?



I am just one person; I am a father, husband, and former smoker who stopped with an e-cigarette in just under two days, tobacco free almost two years. Kevin Crowley Email: kevincrowley@hotmail.com Blog: https://vapinglinks.blog/

One from Nancy on Twitter that has not been approved:

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The California $75 MILLION #stillblowingsmoke campaign & #notblowingsmoke. Who’s fooling who?

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SEVENTY – FIVE MILLION DOLLARS.

Just burning a hole in California’s pocket. To lie.

As the #stillblowingsmoke campaign from the California Department of Public Health rose out of their tobacco control ashes,

A brilliant counter of #notblowingsmoke came calling from everywhere.

Out of nowhere!

Similar to the #curbit campaign (out of California as well), there was a blast of support from the vaping community.

I wasn’t privy to anything coming… it flooded my timeline – and it just… sort… of….. kept going. Gleefully.

@StillBlwngSmoke was who I assume was at the helm. 🙂

The idea that the California Department of Public Health was going to attempt a #curbit style campaign, and the fact that someone knew it, and created http://notblowingsmoke.org/

(A brilliant idea so go see the site!!!)

and then USED it to hijack the #stillblowingsmoke campaign from them…

just made me giggle… more by the tweet.


I didn’t know it was coming ’till I got home from work and it caught me by a pleasant surprise.

We know they’re not being honest with their claims.


That got me to thinking today… I saw their “News Release” and they are not playing around. TV ads, lies… disinformation, misinformation. Discreditation – is that a word?

They want to discredit everything about e-cigarettes…. toxins, dangers… you know…. well here that is:

If you want it you can download it: PH15-024 California Debuts Ads to Counter E-cigarettes

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Page 2:

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Interestingly they have a link to this:

http://www.cdph.ca.gov/pages/presskits.aspx



So after re-reading that “release” and seeing this photo

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(vapor is dark – coming off the wrong end…)

and the “toxins” are there – birth defects…….  the lies are there – the silliness is there.)

It got me to thinking….

So I did this:

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It pretty well pissed me OFF, so I decided to create this “internal memo”, posted it on Twitter as a dropbox,
and also put it on CASAA.
Tweeted it to CDPH themselves…..trying to catch THEM off guard.

My adjustment of their “press release” as a “internal memo from their failed festivities, and added a few links and a couple clues to it not being real.. was to say the least – funny to me.

If I were in charge of this “failed” 75 Million dollar FIVE year plan and it got hijacked on the first day what would I say…

I wanted it done –  like disinformation directly at them…. I’ll play their game…..


I made it look realistic enough for the header – with copy/paste…

added the links… added a few clues for us to see, and actually wasn’t trying to fool anyone once they re-read it – for those of us who vape………….


Once you  hit the MSA or the “dear Stan” part…  at least a flag or two may go off….

 “Private, Do Not Distribute” and then under the date there is PH-LIE #1348318-024

along with “dear Stanton” in the body of the text………..  ALL the links were to various links from the

website – including the site http://notblowingsmoke.org/ itself at the end…

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When I tweeted it – someone caught the joke pretty quick- and I thought – well, it wasn’t “that” good anyway –

then put it on CASAA and let it sit a bit….



It fooled more than I thought with the vaping community. Our world and “anti” campaigns goes SO fast.

There are articles with good news headlines, we can’t all possibly read every word, and inside that headline – more lies…

We can’t see everything. We sometimes retweet each other out of sheer trust… we consider the source. 🙂

That led me to another thought. If I – just a guy with no real “experience” in the copy/cut/paste world can create a phony internal memo – to try to get it to them… and that catches people off guard-

What will the CDPH do with their 75 MILLION dollar misinformation campaign to the public for FIVE YEARS? Think about THAT!

They’re lying on every ad, creating it for their benefit. They’re falsifying what is already misinformation and doctoring it up to make it worse… Glantz even gloated in his blog – then linked “http://notblowingsmoke.org/” ON HIS BLOG. Has he gone mad? Thank you, Mr. Glantz. Anything to help the cause…. is well appreciated. Ugh.


Some of us try things to capture the attention of these people with any means necessary.

So………. lesson learned even by me, that everything is not what it appears.

I thought you would all see it as a parody immediately, some of you thought it was real, and there were a couple of well trained eyes even questioning it. I want the campaigns like the CDPH stopped in their tracks. They’re irresponsible and costing lives.

They are irresponsible and costing LIVES, and wasting tax revenue to do it as well. I want to put them out of business.

The CDPH is not going to apologize for their lies…or their grant money over the next five years.

We have to learn to catch everything on the fly.This really IS war.

If I “bothered” you with it, good. It wasn’t to be malicious and most certainly was accidental, but it sure brought awareness to light over what’s real….. what’s not…. and what the enemy does to the public to deter them from even trying vaping.

I’m on the vaping side of life –  I am for smokers as well… this is a very complex fight – so pay attention – not to me specifically, but to what’s being tweeted, what’s being posted….

We also have to learn to be creative and capture their attention.

They’re claiming the same old silliness…. I’m open to ideas…don’t think they aren’t reading our tweets & blogs….

We need to keep doing something.

Productive tactics:

Like this:   Debunking_Handbook

Or This: The Lung Goodbye – ironically by Simon Chapman. : The Lung Goodbye


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Keep ON #Vaping On.

More to come.

Kevin

25 Years & Fairy Tales, E-cigarettes, Tobacco Control & Children!

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Tobacco or health. It’s a battle I myself have fought – smoked over 30 years. The choice to smoke cigarettes is a personal one. There are people who want to end that choice, and seem to be on a mission.

Please, for your sake, don’t get your panties in a bunch. Breathe if you can. There’s actually no worries right now. Don’t believe their claims of urgency. It’s not THAT important. In fact, smoke ’em if you’ve got them ~there is plenty of time.

That’s right, plenty of time.  There’s no need to rush the tobacco stores, no need to stockpile. For goodness sake, you don’t need to find a video on youtube on how to grow your own tobacco – there will be plenty to go around, and experts are assuring us of that!

As a matter of fact, I wouldn’t worry at ALL. They’re not sure about e-cigarettes either…. so you’ve got at least another 25 years according to recent “leading” public health since there’s an invigorating turbo-charged effort.


An Article in The Lancet has stated :

“Leading public health researchers call for the sale of tobacco to be phased out by 2040……with sufficient political support and stronger evidence-based action against the tobacco industry, a tobacco-free world – where less than 5% of adults use tobacco – could be possible in less than three decades“.

“could be possible”  ????    Are you serious? Is this a bad joke??? I thought this was important. 

“with a call on the United Nations (UN) to lead a “turbo-charged” effort against the sale and consumption of tobacco”.

How long will this turbo-charged effort take? Well… 2040 is the turbo-charged goal? “~~possible in LESS than three decades”… there, that sounded better. THAT’S A GOAL?


I don’t have my handy-dandy calculator, and I’m not a very smart man, but that’s 25 years. If my son had a child today, that child will have graduated college and started his or her life – and about a year later, could be a part of world where 5% of the population may still be using tobacco… that’s the BEST these “angry” world health experts can come up with? The efforts to end tobacco isn’t new, is it? Tax dollars go to campaigns to “curb” tobacco every day.


This is the best they can do, and they’re health and tobacco control leaders?


The 16th annual World Conference on Tobacco or Health, chaired by W.H.O.’s Dr Douglas Bettcher and Dr Vera Da Costa e Silva,  has given it’s stance on tobacco here in this link.

They have this incredibly urgent goal to end tobacco as we know it. Evidently, combustible tobacco must go and this article states that

“The *contentious issue of e-cigarettes or ENDs [electronic nicotine delivery systems] was tackled in several sessions at this week’s  World Conference on Tobacco or Health”……..

*Dictionary alert: “contentious definition”

 
1:  likely to cause disagreement or argument <a contentious issue>
2:  exhibiting an often perverse and wearisome tendency to quarrels and disputes

Why is it likely to cause disagreement or argument? Are you people STUPID?

Do you want tobacco to go away or not? It’s not complicated…

You mentioned  “Aggressive marketing of ENDs by the tobacco industry whose campaigns target children and young people” and I’ll get to that, but I’m trying to stay focused here, people……….

“more research into the potential harms and public health benefits of e-cigarettes is urgently needed.”

“Both panels agreed that combustion of tobacco is an obsolete process, that marketing of these ENDs to young people should be banned, and that more research into the potential harms and public health benefits of e-cigarettes is urgently needed.”

Are you kidding me? Urgently needed research??? On e-cigarettes??? Have some of you been hiding under a big pile of…cash?

Research: E-Cigarette Research

RESPONSIBLE Medical Professionals; Researchers, Scientists, Doctors, Nurses, Health Professionals are at M.O.V.E.


Both of these articles are wonderful. They lead you to believe they can’t do it. Let me explain something. Less than 10 years would be an acceptable goal. Both reasonable, with the new fangled technology called an “e-cigarette”… AND I have no reason to believe that 10 years is not reachable. Anything more is stalling for time and unacceptable.


Contribution and support by ANYONE to a 25 year goal can only lead anyone smart enough to put their pants on that

when they say goal, they mean revenue.

Revenue for themselves in funding, research, taxes, and for their silent partners; corporate partners… pharmaceuticals, governments, tobacco, and health. It’s not about health. It’s not about goals. It’s about revenue and how they’re going to prolong that and how they’ll get away with it, that’s the goal……


These people make money from tobacco. Ironically, funding research for tobacco is nothing new. Neither is treating sick people. What have they been doing since the 1960’s??? Playing tiddlywinks? Crossing fingers?

Backroom deals. Looking the other way.

Your path as a smoker is paved with money for them. You smoke. Tobacco company profits. Insurance companies profit. The tax revenue is rolling in for anyone in tobacco control as well…………..

You want to quit? Pharmaceutical companies have product for that. Most have a low rate of success, but that’s ok. You’re led to believe it’s YOU. Try harder. You’ll feel guilt or sickness eventually… you’ll come back.

You get sick? Too bad…. cough – cough up some money….

Health care providers & pharmaceutical companies profit because you need medicine.


You get really sick? Cancer? Well… they told you so, didn’t you listen to the anti-tobacco ads? Now you’re costing the world money. Lets face it, you’re a number. You’re not THAT important. The government likes statistics. They thrive on numbers.You statistic, you.

Like my Father & Grandmother, they became statistics by default. Lung cancer. I miss them dearly, would give anything to have them on either side of me now, and would loved to have them alive to see these days and stupidity.

This fight is becoming rougher to fight and I need “good people” to help.


New technology, new rules. Old guard. The way of the world. Status quo. These aren’t your average battles. These aren’t your average troubles. The technology is here. The research is here.

Public health will distort a story and create a false campaign and lies big enough that the masses will believe it,  and something needs to be DONE. Not what can we do, so I need someone to tell me what needs to be DONE. I’m working on that….. but it’s not working………….so:


fairy talesIn 25 years, I’ll be 72. Damn, there’s an eye opening moment….

Which leads me to fairy tales and children. The effect on children is a common war-cry of the “experts”. I must point out that parenting skills are obviously at an all time low in this country. First of all, if children can buy cigarettes, they can buy anything. Those are well within the market. If you’re against e-cigarettes, you’re an idiot if you’re in public health, politics  or any position with a title and don’t understand that this is not tobacco – and if you can’t see why this IS about children, you need to move on

You aren’t thinking of the children. That’s your facade. That’s your war cry. That’s because you have nothing else to garner support. The list of irresponsibility in public health gets bigger and longer as the lies progress. I hear class action lawsuits are brewing to have these false claims cease & desist – you are infringing upon health. You are infringing upon rights. I’ll go with my short list for now:

Senator Barbara Boxer. A Senator. In Cali? Where the MSA funds are WAY overspent? No ulterior motives there.

Dr. Kevin Campbell. Plays a doctor on T.V. – likes to discuss “dangers” but doesn’t discuss, gives opinion and needs more time. Likes ratings.

Professor Glantz. NOT a doctor. NOT an expert, claims he’s a tobacco control expert. Loves attention.

Roger Bezanis, Not a doctor – but eludes to being one. Takes photos of sick people, claims they are vapers and loves fruits and smacking himself in the head with frying pans.I’m not sure I spelled his name right – maybe it’s Beavis, as in butthead.

Judy Judd.Not a doctor. Not an expert. Tobacco control, apparently.

Dr. Charles J Bentz Thinks he’s a doctor, evidently now a “guest” writer.

ALL of you above are against something that takes people away from tobacco. Why aren’t your efforts heavily and completely focused on tobacco? Guilty by association, I can only presume you want people to smoke and like spewing drivel… dripping down your chins…. you irresponsible greedy self-indulgent pricks. You’re not thinking of children. Define slander.


I’m not sure what kind of fairy tales I’ll tell my first grandchild and how the story will end, but I’ll peer into the future for a moment.


How it may go:

Grandpa, did you smoke? Yes I did, but I found a way to stop without any detrimental effects after trying many other ways that didn’t work with what they called an e-cigarette- it was amazing – electronic – you can probably find my blog if they haven’t censored it yet on the internet… it was the “vaping truth”…… It was around a while, no troubles… as irresponsible “experts”, officials and governments started seeing what was going on, pointed out by greedy corporations and self-indulgent lobbyists, they took control of it by first saying it was bad, then by regulating it, then taxing it, then ultimately banning and continuing to control it. I couldn’t access it and by what they said, it was worse than tobacco, so I just went back to smoking… Listen, if you never hear another word from me, please know that I hope you never start smoking, you’ll end up like me. Helpless and on oxygen.


How I hope it goes:

Grandpa, did you smoke? Yes I did, but I found a way to stop without any detrimental effects after trying many other ways that didn’t work. Your father saw my struggle and thankfully never smoked, but witnessed my struggle and ultimately my success with what was called an e-cigarette. That struggle of trying to quit led him to understand that he shouldn’t smoke. I found a way to stop and thankfully there were responsible experts & authorities who had the nerve to stand up to very powerful people, governments & corporations, recognizing that the e-cigarette is an amazing technological tool for millions. Your Great-Grandfather didn’t live to see it, but would have embraced it.


It sounds good to say “endgame”…. but really it’s not an endgame. It’s just a game. Lives are at stake, and 25 years is much too long to entrust this responsibility of millions of lives with irresponsible people.

Please, give Clive Bates an honest visit to get his points on the tobacco endgame. In 25 years, I hope I can portray my thoughts 1/25th as well as he does:

The tobacco endgame – a critical review of the policy ideas


California public health, you tried again with your #stillblowingsmoke campaign…… face it, you’re still supporting smoking! (well you’re supporting your own $$$ revenue habit by misleading the public).

You have an ad with CHILDREN vaping in it???? How responsible…. you’re still wasting hard earned MSA tax dollars. What will those supporters think this time knowing you’ve spent 75 MILLION dolllars  and it’s all gone up in smoke?

http://notblowingsmoke.org/


Keep On #Vaping On.

Kevin

E-Cigs & Vaping. Fighting For Livelihood, Fighting For Lives. Here’s a phone number.

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Some are fighting for their livelihood; some are fighting for lives.

 David Goerlitz would like a phone call or an email and is offering HELP.

Here’s his email and phone number.

He stated the phone line is open:

609-234-0220.

He’s also available at his email:

kgkjkl@yahoo.com…..

He’s not joking and neither am I…


Don’t know who Mr. Goerlitz is? I didn’t either till around December. I’ll get back to that.


W.H.O. , Governments. Politicians. Health Care. Health Organizations like the American Lung / Heart Associations. Anti-Tobacco. Tobacco. Pharmaceutical Companies. Doctors. Nurses. Pharmacies.

Big Corporations carrying those products that are to keep you well like drug stores and supermarkets. They’re doing the best they can fighting as well.


They have to keep money coming in, or they’ll lose a foothold. At what cost? I believe its at the very least the cost of lives. Those products had research/development. Lots of cash.


Those companies and conglomerates have investors. Investors want profit. It’s been said in this blog – Greg Conley of the AVA said vaping/ecigs are a disruptive technology.

I said in a previous blog somewhere It is again, disrupting alright. It’s disrupting cash flow from all of the above.


Those are people we vapers call antz. Those people are fighting for their livelihood. Grants. MSA funding. Tax dollars. Poorly portrayed reports in media. Misconstruing data. Pretending. Santa Claus. But its working. They’ve taken over. They’ve convinced the masses their way in ANY WAY & form that they can. We KNOW what they’re doing… what are WE doing???

For you who DO make noise, awesome. Someone heard you, I know I’ve heard quite a few. I’m SURE you know who are. We’ve probably crossed paths on Facebook or Twitter by now. You know where I stand…

For you who haven’t made any noise …. either stay quiet, become loud, or don’t WHINE and shrug your shoulders when regulation becomes control, taxation and possible bans………………..Yes I said bans. If you’re a reviewer, say something on your video about advocacy to your viewers. Maybe they don’t know. Put a clip of it up. Draw 30 seconds of attention to it. If you’re a vendor, you’ve got NO excuse not to be screaming….maybe not monetary, but you should be telling your customers and screaming at the government. By screaming I mean letters, phone calls, emails… I’ve SEEN a little of that on facebook & twitter….   MORE!


 With few exceptions, those supporting and involved directly with M.O.V.E, or those about to join ranks with M.O.V.E. are the source of truth. Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos and his team (my apologies for not naming names with him at the moment) are standing up to the world, standing UP to an extremely large agenda with class and purpose (they) have continuously shown for those who can’t.” There are others here & abroad.You know who you are, and I thank you.



For the record, I smoked for 30 + years. I’ve vaped almost 2 years. I lost my father to lung cancer last fall. I lost my Grandmother to lung cancer as well. We have been a family of smokers till death do they part. Duh. I miss them dearly, and had they known vaping, they’d be screaming louder than I am.


I DON’T care if you smoke, dual use, just started out… or have been vaping exclusively for years. If you’re vaping and you’re on line… you’ve got future generations needing a choice in this matter.


Are you comfortable?

Are you happy? Are you satisfied? Are you able to do it yourself? Do you care?

Are you complacent?

Full Definition of COMPLACENT

1:  marked by self-satisfaction especially when accompanied by unawareness of actual dangers or deficiencies :  marked by complacency :  self-satisfied <a complacent smile>
2:  complaisant 1
3:  unconcerned        com·pla·cent·ly adverb

 SO.

Vapers / consumers have been dependent on CASAA and the VAPING MILITIA  to fight for us. I asked someone recently if they were too passive. Too complacent. Too laid back.  I think they are.

Is it funding? is it complacency? Is is me? This is a HUGE fight. Cloud blowing and trinkets are awesome…..I’m all for it,  but there’s a much bigger battle. I’m not saying they’re not doing anything, I’m saying more needs to be done.


WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT LOUD ENOUGH.

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We’re playing footsies. Tickle tickle.


This is a fight not easily fought or won for the deeming regulation to occur in the USA…. I don’t know about funding, money, lobbying, cash flow, donations, calls to action, none of that bullshit either, it’s not my expertise and I’ve never run an org…….. I thankfully have a job. I enjoy social media for fun, I love the funny cat video or hand check like the next guy…. we’re all human……but I did notice THIS:


 A photo at the FDA facebook page got 7,000+ comments with a #vapingsavedmylife hashtag. I joined in… on the survey page on facebook and twitter…..

THEN I started tweeting/hitting facebook with DEEMING REGULATION.

It is about loose tobacco – pipes… it’s not just vaping……….it’s about control……………..


The tweets by me the other night were modestly retweeted about the deeming regulation and shared on facebook by a few more…   now, updated daily, the FDA site where DEEMING REGULATION will invariably happen… regulation=control=tax=bans and very stringent guidelines……………………….. As of today:

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As of today on the comments of the DEEMING REGULATION at the FDA site updated Friday:

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 That just pisses me off.

Dimitris retweeted me. A few others did too…. big accounts…to get some real action on the FDA site…..not even a “like”from some…..imagine that. BIG players in the field of vaping.

What the HELL is wrong with you people????

   There are 13,000+ on CASAA’s facebook page. There are over 8,000 on the Vaping Militia facebook page.

No, not all would see a tweet or post on that page, not all that are on facebook are members in the USA, so lets say 10 percent – that’s 2100 comments……………………………… but you can BUMP a video of a cat???

Can you pin a tweet? Can you understand you’re being played? Do you not know what this is about?

It’s about health. It’s about choice.

Finally it’s about control, and continued control of cash.

Your cash. Your children’s cash & health.

It’s about us fighting for their lives.

If you dismiss everything I’ve said about the USA above, keep going…

It’s been banned in other countries. BANNED in other countries.

That pisses me off.

I don’t know that I do everything “right”.

It’s easy to armchair the orgs from where I am. We have to keep doing SOMETHING.

now it’s up to merchants & individuals to be LOUD AS HELL as WELL….

SFATA & AVA are on that side, if you didn’t know and you’re a vendor, shame on you.



Well, David Goerlitz would like a phone call or an email to HELP. Here’s his email and phone number.

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email kgkjkl@yahoo.com……


David Goerlitz. You might recognize him, you might not. I don’t know Mr. Goerlitz myself, but was within an email only conversation with him today, and remember emailing him some time ago on FB about something. That said, I’m going to just post some of his comments – and remember – his phone line is open and if it’s busy, I’m sure he’s got voicemail. I will give his number again, and again…. at the bottom along with his blog.

“Here is where you should pay attention”


He said in part on an email:

I guess I need to tweet, twit, hash tag, or twitter to be taken seriously. I’m old school Kevin and yes you can use whatever I have for whatever you want. I don’t do selfie’s or brag about my past. But it DOES play a roll
I’ll let you read his comments.
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Again in August:

“can’t return a phone call”

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“609 234-0220……email kgkjkl@yahoo.com……I guess I need to tweet, twit, hash tag, or twitter to be taken seriously. I’m old school Kevin and yes you can use whatever I have for whatever you want. I don’t do selfie’s or brag about my past. But it DOES play a roll……………………”




David is, after all, the

http://formerwinstonman.com/ 

and understands what we’re up against. Read his blog. I don’t know if anyone will get this far in it, but if you don’t care, as you were. If you do care, do something, if I hurt your feelings, aww. If I pissed you off, GOOD. If I motivated you as an individual or a company… vendors I’m talking to YOU…..reviewers too…. and you’re going to be active at your B&M, good. Be aware…. it’s coming. David’s BEEN saying so. To the CASAA & Vaping Militia, if you know the knowledge he has, above and beyond what we do, and it is there to use, I won’t ask why you haven’t called David yet, I now will only ask “when will you”, and what else can I do? I’ll always be gladly willing to learn & take suggestions.


David’s number again if you missed it is

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email: kgkjkl@yahoo.com……


Roly Gate had this on E-Cigarette Politics and it is spot ON. Campaign For Truth In Public Health ***********


Well, David Goerlitz would like a phone call or an email to HELP. Here’s his email and phone number.

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email kgkjkl@yahoo.com……


Keep On #Vaping On. Kevin

Merchant Of Doubt. Creator of Doom. Professor of Tobacco Control, Stanton Glantz.

glantzzzzzzzzzzzz With so many controversies over e-cigarettes & vaping, now approaching is the pending possibility of regulating e-cigarettes and other forms of tobacco by the F.D.A, along with the their accepting comments from the public for it’s “deeming legislation”, and there are suddenly many “experts”. Enter Stanton Glantz..


Glantz has a background in tobacco control. You said in 1990 addiction helps people like you pay mortgages…. and in 1992, you stated “if the answer is yes, then we do it, and if the answer is I don’t know, then we don’t bother. That’s the criteria……. for research… wow…. Go ahead, click on it. tobacco2


Some experts are popping up like dandelions in your fresh spring lawn in the arenas of public health, TV doctors, reporters, politicians, even people with no degrees at all… and people in tobacco control against e-cigarettes. Stan has been around awhile. Glantz has a background in tobacco control. It would seem obvious that any professor in tobacco control would see the benefits in using an e-cigarette as a viable way to reduce harm that, if the person chose to get off tobacco for good, a professor would be in favor of just that. That way, an alleged leader in tobacco “control” would have in essence, controlled said use of tobacco. Well, that’s not really the way it is at least out in sunny California.


Stanton Glantz, with his title of PhD and “Professor of Medicine” “Professor of Tobacco Control” (Is that a real title?) is more about “control”. A Professor of doubt, a creator of doom. Seemingly, Glantz is “all powerful and all knowing”, kind of like the wizard of odd. As a “Merchant of Doom” in a smoke filled tobacco world, he’s an expert at pretending there is no research with e-cigarettes, that there’s no results. You’d think with a PhD. , and millions of dollars in funding at his fingertips at the University of California, San Francisco, he’d have defeated tobacco by now, wouldn’t you? You’d think with all that funding from trusting people, there would be nothing but fact and truth coming out of someone’s mouth holding such a prestigious position. You’d think. Stan just posted a blog. Stan likes control. Remember how his attitude was before: “if the answer is yes, then we do it, and if the answer is I don’t know, then we don’t bother. That’s the criteria……. for research… so how different has that become years later???


No bias here………….

http://cleanairquality.blogspot.co.uk/2008/01/stanton-glantzs-400000-funding-from.html?m=1

grant


I will give my rebuttle in italics and bold on his blog post below on the statements from Stan’s recent blog post he “considers” with his opinion. Remember, he’s a researcher, but science, fact & opinion seem to confuse him in an uncanny way. He seem to glide seamlessly and effortlessly with his words, craftily designed like he might actually be an English teacher, but I think not. His title & a link to it if you desire to read it on it’s own. Love the “(almost)” in his title… he needs to brush it up, like I will his post.


A sensible plan for effective FDA regulation of e-cigarette marketing (almost) now http://tobacco.ucsf.edu/sensible-plan-effective-fda-regulation-e-cigarette-marketing-almost-now Submitted by sglantz on Tue, 2015-03-17 12:58 Eric Lindblom, who headed the Office of Policy in the FDA Center for Tobacco Products and is now on detail at the Georgetown University School of Law, just published “Effectively Regulating E-Cigarettes and Their Advertising— and the First Amendment” in Food and Drug Law Journal. This paper is the an amazingly creative and incisive analysis of how to get out-of-control e-cigarette marketing under control as soon as the FDA achieves authority to regulate e-cigarettes.


You make an astonishing and asinine assumption of the “e-cigarette marketing being “out of control” and I find it a creative and incisive analysis… good for you Stan…. you have tried to come up with one of your own recently? You must watch a LOT of television and see a load of print ads… The part where you say “as soon as the FDA achieves authority to regulate e-cigarettes”…. that may happen, I’m not sure, but you seem to know they will. That’s pretty arrogant. Let’s continue, shall we?


Lindbloom notes that there are two possible justifications for allowing e-cigarettes on the market:


I, along with millions, only need one justification, getting myself off cigarettes. It worked flawlessly.


1. The might help current smokers quit cigarettes. 2. The might be an effective harm reduction strategy for current smokers.


“might, according to Lindbloom, is a questionable statement. He obviously listens to you. They DO help current smokers quit. “might be effective harm reduction”…. isn’t that what ANY tobacco control professor wants? People OFF tobacco?


He notes that there are several ways in which e-cigarettes could result in increased harm:


((“could” and “increased harm”)). Really? No science to back yourself up, Stan? No studies to point to or link? Ironically, being a researcher, you have no research on your part…. man that was SO disappointing you didn’t even try. Well… you’re wrong about ‘increased harm”, Stan- there are PLENTY of studies by real researchers, doctors, scientists even, stating there is significantly LESS harm, considering it’s not combustible tobacco, but you’re the expert? Researchers (what you claim to be?) Scientists & Doctors have done plenty of research and you simply insult them – your colleagues in the field – by saying there isn’t any: E-Cigarette Research (http://www.ecigalternative.com/ecigarette-studies-research.htm))) You also tried to create a false sense of harm in your #curbit campaign. Denying the above research and keeping people on cigarettes. Is that your goal, Stan? Continued funding and job security???


Your proud moment in the #curbit campaign on Twitter, claiming toxic vapor, that e-cigs are cigarettes, and frankly misleading anyone into thinking they would be educated is ironic: S4


1. Kids who would not otherwise have smoked addicts start using e-cigarettes. 2. Former smokers take up e-cigarettes. 3. Former smokers relapse to smoking cigarettes again.


Face it Stan…. I’m calling you out on the “kids” thing. Children is a ploy Stan. It’s a catch all “doom” statement because you have nothing else. If all your work on tobacco control all these years was working like you profess it, then there would be no children SMOKING.  See Gate? No Way! here: Gate? No Way! (Thank you Mr. Zillitron). Former smokers “taking up” e-cigarettes (Adults with choices) would keep them from and OFF combustible tobacco. (Your life’s work and goal?) Former smokers relapse on other forms of smoking cessation-quite a BIT more. Either way, they’re off tobacco… still not getting it are you, and again, you’re a researcher?


While the first two points about the potential benefits of e-cigarettes are controversial,


Not to people wanting a choice to be off of combustible tobacco in a design that works effectively, it’s not “controversial”… just to you, Stan. the last three are not. Indeed, the major challenge to e-cigarette enthusiasts is how to craft a policy/regulatory environment in which the possible benefits of e-cigarettes can occur without the collateral damage of promoting increased nicotine addiction in never or former smokers.


Your assumption with the word “possible” astounds me. Are you for it or against it? “Collateral damage”? Nicotine is something else you need to research, Stan. I thought you were a RESEARCHER! Here, buddy, here’s just one link to nicotine, I don’t want to burden you with too much information at once but would like to point out that this link is from a TOBACCO HARM REDUCTION SITE in case your assistants can’t be with you to help you see it: Nicotine FAQ’s http://tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq/nicotine.htm Please note that some people not only reduce their nicotine by choice, some go as far as to use NO nicotine! I know – it’s such a surprise! Their thought is that nicotine itself is dangerous in this form comes from people like you. I can’t imagine you need to know this, yet I need to be sure we’re clear on this: The carcinogens and chemicals in tobacco from combustion of said chemicals are what is dangerous in cigarette smoking, not the nicotine.


Lindbloom presents a sensible and practical solution: Limit e-cigarette advertising and promotion to highly targeted direct-to-consumer contact materials that only go to confirmed current smokers.


Ummmm what??? Are you nuts? You want to support a “sensible and practical” solution? Are you turning the tide on your stance, Gl  ANTZ?


This is something that companies can do given their databases of current smokers.


Well, Stan, are you contributing your cash to do this? Try another #curbit campaign, that did wonders. This is something you could have done in promoting e-cigarettes rather than pretending there’s no research.


This highly focused advertising would get e-cigarette advertisements out of mass media (including the internet) and greatly reduce exposure to nonsmokers.


Are you a moonlight advertising executive and you’ve been holding out on me?


Lindbloom carefully assesses the First Amendment issues and shows how the FDA could do this discretionary enforcement authority without any new rulemaking.


I can only picture you rubbing your hands together with glee over discretionary enforcement. Control has just gone to your head now, hasn’t it…


This approach would not only allow action much faster – years faster – than using rule making, but it would also be easier to defend in court.


I think, with this statement the way it is, its just more hand rubbing…


If it turns out that e-cigarettes do not help smokers quit, keep people smoking (which I think is their actual effect)


Oh look folks, more opinion!!! I THINK it is their actual effect. ((Ugh! I think you’re an idiot!)) They DO help people quit:


or that they turn out to be a lot more dangerous than the optimists think


TURN OUT to be???? You really want people to take you seriously??? See research again Stan: E-Cigarette Research (http://www.ecigalternative.com/ecigarette-studies-research.htm)


(i.e. if assumptions 1 and/or 2 turn out to be wrong) , the FDA can adjust its rules. But the damage will only be done to current smokers and the significant collateral damage listed in items 3, 4, and 5 will have been avoided.


Are you telling the FDA they can “adjust its rules”??? You have some control issues, Stan. Have you seen a psychologist for that? Damage… well, again, refer to that research… I keep having to tell you it’s there. This is getting old. E-Cigarette Research (http://www.ecigalternative.com/ecigarette-studies-research.htm)))


Everyone at the FDA needs to study this paper with an open mind and see that the deeming rule which is now being finalized does not inadvertently make it harder to implement this plan.


“An Open Mind.” Simon Chapman hasn’t blocked me, I actually like some of his information. Engage properly with people in the twitter arena instead of insisting on your way or the highway, Stan. You might learn something. See if you can have an open mind sometime. You don’t do any research so you might as well ponder the wonders of learning.

S


And, while the technical details of Lindbloom’s plan are written for the US, the ideas can be easily implemented in other countries. Indeed, they may be easier to implement in countries that do not deify commercial speech the way the US Supreme Court does.


“the ideas can be easily implemented in other countries”? They may be easier??? Now you want to control the world??? You REALLY need to see a professional. Consult your Psych. Department over there at the University Of California.


Probably even more important, public health advocates need to read this paper and start pressing the FDA, their keepers in the Obama Administration, and pro-health members of Congress to make sure that this plan gets implemented.


“Probably” even more important. Is it important? You sound tired here. You must hydrate once in a while between naps. It should read something like “I implore” or “must”. Those words are strong, show you mean business and would’ve been better to get people to “start pressing the FDA” to get this implemented. What exactly IS more important? Again, get off your high horse. You are a researcher. You would think the most important goal in a TOBACCO CONTROL researcher would be to get people OFF TOBACCO. Off of cigarettes. With all the research showing it’s MUCH less harmful than cigarettes I’d think you could see that by now.





While I admit your resume’ is impressive. Your integrity is quite questionable. Your ability to try to be cute and not have any idea that research isn’t being done is stunning, but it’s getting old, but you keep at it. Pompous, self-centered and beyond your time, there are people who are helping the world. Real Researchers. Real Doctors. Real Scientists. You insult your community and dismiss, sidestep and misconstrue the very idea that e-cigarettes are safe.



Well, glANTZ, they are safe. E-cigarettes are not only safe in comparison to smoking cigarettes that they’re saving lives. They’re much safer than you trying to keep people from it. Your goal in tobacco harm reduction is to get people off of tobacco. I would presume you would be the first to know that. Do some real research, make a phone call, stop making false claims. You are endangering people and giving them the illusion that an e-cigarette is worse in your #curbit campaign. That deters people and keeps them smoking when they believe the lies you’ve spread. That is irresponsible, that is costing lives. You know, you might make a better politician than researcher. Do some research, check that out…


I’m no one important. I did do a Vaping Truth Survey – Here’s the final analysis, that by default, discredits you with no grants, staff or offices in the very things you elude to…….


Turns out I and THOUSANDS of vapers have done more research than you via E-Cigarette Research (http://www.ecigalternative.com/ecigarette-studies-research.htm)


Dear Stanton Glantz: If millions of e-cigarette users are wrong around the world by benefiting with e-cigarettes, and ONE researcher is right…… isn’t that something you should take up with your math department being statistically unsound? A concerned and much healthier e-cigarette user. As always, Keep On #Vaping On.

Kevin

NZ, thank you again.

Smoking Cessation, Manipulative Discretion.

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The search for millions of people for a smoking cessation “tool” has been underway for years. Many ways to stop have been introduced in the world, and for some to no avail. 

 

The Real Story Behind the Nicotine Patch and Smoking Cessation

By: Amy Renshaw

The smoker, provoked by health reasons, pressure, guilt or shame, even the hard core smoker will at some point try anything at any cost to stop smoking. When someone fails, supporters of the one trying turn quickly on them and accuse the smoker with phrases like  “lack of willpower” or  “just not wanting to quit” and create doubt, stir and conjure up “failure”.

Keep trying…  any way you can. In my opinion, if it is a product, the other ways available are set up for failure by design, where vaping is very successful. Originally thought of and patented by Herbert A. Gilbert’s patent from the 1960’s, He called it “moist, flavored air”.

Mr. Gilbert is still alive and well, if you’re wondering!


For this “blog” I searched the word “cessation” in the results of the survey and got thinking about it. Vaping is successful for most for two reasons in my opinion. It is more about the sensation you’re conditioned to, and cessation is just the natural course of progression away from tobacco for most. I’m talking about smoking, not nicotine.

The media, many public health & political figures are using irresponsible and manipulative discretion

(The way one acts attempting to attain selfish ends by disregarding another’s aspirations or well being to control or play upon that one’s hopes or fears.)

in any way necessary for their own greed to downplay vaping – an e-cigarette – as a viable and useful device.

Below are enlightening and unedited comments from just the word cessation from the survey (The survey final analysis is linked at the bottom of this blog).


We all know the tools available, but the word cessation; ” a temporary or final ceasing (as of action)” as to the use of tobacco is the end result one is normally looking for in “not smoking”… some are cutting down, some want to cease smoking for good because the dangers of smoking are slow and unseen for a very long time. There are dual users, and that’s their choice. The reasons people try to quit vary and most likely are health related as being the top reason.


Here are the comments from the survey on “cessation” and under those are a few links.


This is my plea for help. No one is listening to me. I feel hopeless and depressed.

After smoking for over 40 years, this sin has caught up to me.

After years of trying to quite using Pharmacy smoking aids, nicotine patches, nicotine puffers, nicotine inhalers, flavored nicotine gums, and prescribed smoke cessation drugs, I finally discovered an instrument to try and salvage what health I have left -an e-cigarette.

An electronic cigarette. So simple. So pure. A gift for Mankind. A gift from God.

It allowed me to quit instantly.

After using this miracle product, going on 3 years now, I am told that the Government,
through bill 45, is trying to take away my life saving gift. No questions asked. No questions answered. No questions period.

Please help me . . .

No one is listening to me . . .

I feel hopeless and depressed . . .
Please help . . .


Thanks for this survey, hope the information gathered is used to highlight the real truth about vaping. Smoking cessation was my goal in vaping and it has become a personal lifestyle choice.


Vaping is a cool thing to do for many, but for me it’s more about smoking cessation. When I walk into many vape shops there are people behind the counter trying to see who can blow the biggest cloud. Close minded idiot politicians and anti smoking morons see that same scene, and that’s all they see. They see no merit to vaping with that scene. We can say “f-them”, but they’re busy banning and taxing us around the world, screwing up what could be a technology capable of ending cigarette smoking as we know it. We need more research and public surveys like this one to reaffirm what we already know, vaping is less harmful than smoking cigarettes, and it’s helping to save lives.


This method works for me and I encourage others, especially family and friends, to try it. I loan/give them what they need to get started. I am concerned that the cash cow that is tobacco and smoking cessation pharmaceuticals will limit availability and make people afraid to try something that is relatively harmless. Not TOTALLY harmless, but SO MUCH safer than tobacco.


Since pharma came up with nicorette in the 70th, smoking cessation tools have to be save and approved. Instead of being a proud nonsmoker????? I`m smoking the safest and most harmless cigarette ever, there is no need for regulations. Don`t believe the WHO and ANTZ lies, even Fagerstroem did rename his Nicotin-test to make all those people ill and addicted, that don`t use “medical” nicotin.


I think it’s sad and hilarious that e-cigarettes cannot be legally promoted as a smoking cessation tool. That needs to change.


If any regulation is to be done, it should not be done by government entities that are in bed with big pharma and big tobacco. For years we hear you have to quit smoking. We find a product that works for so many folks where all other cessation aids have failed, and the government wants to tax and regulate it to death. But there are huge pushes to legalize pot. Really! Leave my vaping alone and let me be an adult and find responsible places to buy my vape gear including juices. If the government wants to make vaping safer…..try funding some small business to start up manufacturing in the US, so we don’t have to buy everything from China!!


I personally have tried every “FDA approved” smoking cessation device that lead to failure at the least, illness at the most….


I was, and still am, convinced that vaping provides an infinitely safer method compared to smoking. Vaping is the only harm reduction/cessation product that has successfully allowed me to abandon cigarette use.


was shown vaping by a friend decided to try it to quit cigarettes,had tried all the rest on cessation aids nothing else worked


I used vaping as a quit method, despite its inherit noncessation attribution.


No problem switching, taste was better and noticed the health increase from smoking cessation


I tried a very old, small e-cigarette approximately 1,5 years before I stopped smoking. After I quit smoking using a cessation drug, I kept feeling the craving for approximately half a year, which is when I turned to vaping. So in a sense, I quit smoking 6 months before I took up vaping.


I think so. Should be limited to 18 and older. Primarily should be used as smoking cessation product.


In my eyes, it is a smoking cessation product. I only say this because I no longer smoke cigarettes…and was a user of cigarettes for 10 years.


Vaping works, but I don’t think I would call it a cessation tool. It’s its own thing 😉


Vaping is a smoking cessation


vaping is a cessation aid. i way to help people stop smoking


Vaping works as a smoking cessation product as well as a smoking substitute. How well it works, like any other product, depends on the willingness and determination of the individual.


Vaping has changed my life in a positive way that I had given up hope was possible. Even if it does have negative effects, it’s still safer than smoking. Even if the cessation rates are the same as other nicotine replacement therapies, it’s reach goes much farther than the others, meaning more lives are saved.


Ok vaping will not work on everyone, but I believe it to be the best cessation device I have ever tried. As long as I have my e-cig I do not want a cigarette. It replaces the act of smoking which all of the other smoking cessations fail to do. I believe this to be the biggest advantage to the e-cigarette. When I was on the patch or gum, it was a constant test of my will power as soon as I saw someone light up a cigarette. With the e-cig that feeling is gone!


Best thing ever. Government should be embracing it as a smoke cessation device. It shouldn’t be supplemented though.


I am quite concerned that the people with the money, ie: big pharma are sponsoring articles and false studies on how vaping is bad for us. They stand to lose billions from revenue generated by their smoking cessation aides (too many to list) that don’t work and the government because they obviously go where the money is.


As I said above, the powers-that-be are mostly acting irrationally when it comes to science. There are too many vested interests for them to act in a disinterested manner and too many wealthy and powerful interests acting to protect their own interests against vaping (the pharmaceutical industry, the tobacco industry, etc.). They therefore are spreading the most incredible lies and disinformation about vaping. They should be held accountable for the people they are killing by not allowing them accurate, truthful, undistorted information about this cessation method.





Stop paying attention to the media. Stop concerning yourself with “fluff” and outrageous claims of experts. If you’re in doubt, sitting quietly contemplating this choice, I implore you to follow these links:

If you are worried about nicotine, it is here

—>All About Nicotine (& Addiction)

If you need validation of research, it is here —>Research

If you need to see what responsible members of the Medical, Scientific & Research community has decided to do worldwide, or if you are one and know the benefits of e-cigarettes, please join!

It is here

—> M.O.V.E.


If you need to see this extensive and powerful research done by Kellie Forbes (BScN RN, a member of M.O.V.E.) to help others to find a way to the truth here in PDF form, it is here

—> Vaping-the-truth-USA

If you need more of a personal story, it is here via the Vaping Militia’s Alex Carlson:

—>Interview With Fiamma Palermo (Karen Lee) The First To Say #ImProof

(Article Via—>Alex Carlson )


If you need more from groups, there is

—>CASAA & the

—>Vaping Militia.

If you need more, you’ll find it from Clive Bates here

—> Briefing on the science and policy of e-cigarettes and vaping:

If you need more from the survey, they’re found here—> Vaping Truth Survey Final Analysis and throughout this blog.



If you see or hear anything else,Ask for truth with proof. Don’t be fooled by hype and please question it.

Expect nothing less than the truth as if your lives depended on it, VAPING SAVES LIVES.


If you use an e-cig, I encourage you to comment to the F.D.A. as an individual or as a business.

: Post your comments —>>> Open Dockets for Public Comment with the FDA


Keep On #Vaping On.

Kevin

Vaping: I can breathe again: “Bronchitis symptoms disappeared within a week”

Vaping: I can breathe again & other things the media doesn’t tell you.

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Smokers are breathing better when they switch to e-cigarettes. What will the media tell you in the 3 minute snippet of breaking news about e-cigarettes? They tell you very little.

There are very real and very measurable results and changes to these people experienced, in their own words with vaping. I’d call it immeasurable. I’d call it life changing. I’d say beyond anecdotal. I’d simply call this proof.


Some people vape because they quit smoking or using tobacco for varied reasons. Some do both.

I did a search for “medication” and have listed just a few of these answers found in one question from the Vaping Truth Survey, in the respondents own words:



Question #7. Health benefits you’ve noticed since vaping?


• I have been able to stop anti anxiety medication, I feel much calmer than jonsing for a smoke every 30 mins, I am calm and can go a few hours without anything right now.


  • No shortness of breath at all.”

• no more asthma medication needed


• Bronchitis symptoms disappeared within a week of transitioning. My allergies have been virtually nonexistent. And the nicotine helps prevent my migraines without prescription medication.


• I have asthma, and have stopped taking my daily asthma medication, and barely use my ‘rescue’ albuterol inhaler.


• I have asthma and was always tight in my chest. I always felt like someone was sitting on it, since vaping I have full capacity back and no medications. I feel wonderful actually.


• Cholesterol dropped from 430 to 280 (w/o medication), stamina greatly increased, lost all indications of period (previously treated for 10 years), total loss of angina events


• I could stop my asthma medications


• I haven’t seek any medical care in over a year. When I was a smoker, I was at the Dr’s every year for medications due to asthmatic bronchitis – not one issue with bronchitis since vaping. I don’t cough anymore and I am breathing very well these days – no shortness of breath at all.


• I am suffering from chronical astma bronchitis. Before I saterted vaping, I used three different types of steroid medication, three times a day, just to be able to breath normally. Now, after several month of vaping, I am down to only one medication, once a day.


• I still use a CPAP through the night but my consultant says my readings have improved greatly (he is unaware that I Vape) My blood pressure has change to “very good” since I swapped to vaping and I have not taken any medication for high blood pressure or statins since March 2013.


• As i said before i got bad astma and ive been without medication 1yr and my medicines where 700€ per 3months


• Since starting vaping and quitting smoking: my blood pressure has never been lower (still on medication, but high blood pressure runs in my family)


• feel in better condition, especially when climbing 8 flights of stairs – wouldn’t have got halfway without a rest when I was a smoker


• -not one migraine since switching to vaping – had migraines on average every 8 -10 weeks since menopause


UPDATED 8/20/16

Fewer lung infections from the Roswell Institute:

“Those who switch completely to e-cigarettes may reduce their cancer risk, research team says”

New Roswell Park/UCSF Study: Smokers Who Switch to E-Cigarettes Exposed to Same Levels of Nicotine, Lower Carcinogen Levels

Better lung function from PubMed:

“High prevalence of cough/phlegm (43.1%) and shortness of breath (34.8%) was reported at baseline with substantial reduction in their frequency at subsequent follow-up visits. These symptoms virtually disappeared very quickly in both quitters and reducers”.

Lung function and respiratory symptoms in a randomized smoking cessation trial of electronic cigarettes.

You don’t have to believe the media. These people were telling the truth all on their own.


***UPDATE***

“Popcorn” lung came up again in the news.

The WONDERFUL folks over at Vapers.Org.UK

released a Special Edition on 12/12/15:

I suggest a tall glass of liquid to hydrate due to the high salt content!

A Bucket Of Popcorn.


If you are a Health, Science or Research Professional: Medical Organizations supporting Vaping and Electronic cigarettes: M.O.V.E

From Kellie Forbes, BScN, RN.

(A member of M.O.V.E.)

Research with a powerful message you can view and download for free.

Vaping-the-truth-USA


There are Studies: E-Cigarette Research & Studies

and here: E-cigarette-research.com


All answers were unedited and from The Vaping Truth Survey
Final Analysis



Keep On #Vaping On.
Kevin

Taking Chances with Chantix or Zyban to Quit Smoking

ZybanDoctor’s orders: take your medicine, take your chances. Zyban and Chantix are government approved prescribed medications to allegedly help smokers stop smoking.

Extremely important information from consumers experiencing side-effects from Zyban and Chantix was collected in this survey. Detrimental effects of these medications were reported and were a huge topic in the comments .


In question # 10 of the Vaping Truth Survey, it was asked
“What other methods did you try to stop smoking before you stopped with vaping”.

Dangers, side effects, issues with these approved prescription drugs mixing with others are just a few of the reasons they cannot be used effectively as a way to stop smoking according to experience from others.

Searching on the results JUST where it was mentioned in the comments for Chantix & Zyban, here is what you said (no edits):



Chantix & Zyban



1. Chantix send me into depression.. Awful effect for me

2. The patch caused skin irritation and nughtmares. The gum caused digestive issues. Cold turkey worked for a short time because I was pregnant. And Chantix caused horrible nausea and nightmares.

3. Chantix was awful. It messed with how I felt and caused anxiety. Gum def didn’t work. Patch burned my skin, gave me super weird dreams. Vaping, has had no negative side effects.

4. SEVERELY allergic to Chantix Few times patch worked for a short time ONLY vaping has stopped and kept me stopped from smoking.

5. My mother has tried everything listed and this year suffered a DVT. She took both Zyban and Chantix. Zyban almost worked, and then she got sick from it. Chantix made her hallucinate, and have violent night terrors, having never had any of those symptoms ever before in her life. She’s still suffering some side effects a year plus after going off the Chantix. She quit smoking with vaping, going from a pack a day to zero, as suggested by her doctor, to save her life. Since quitting she’s gone off her high blood pressure medication and lost weight.

6. nothing works as well as vaping sorry chantix has too many horrible side effects
7. I didn’t try chantix because of the serious side effects

8. Chantix Makes you nuts. It should be taken off the market

9. Nothing worked. Chantix made me want to kill myself. I daydreamed about the ways I would do it. Pharmaceuticals are not the way to go.

10. none worked and Chantix had too many side effects
11. Chantix made me irritable and mean. Cold turkey I didn’t have enough self control for. The lozenges and gum did not help with the hand to mouth feel of smoking so it wasn’t good enough either.

12. You couldn’t get me to take Chantix or Zyban at any price.

13. Chantix (prescription) made me an absolute nut, patch and inhaler didn’t work for more than a month (I would go right back to it), and cold turkey didn’t work at all.

14. Chantix gave me extreme nightmares and very “weird” thoughts during the day….

15. I can’t take drugs like Chantix or Zyban, because I am on psychiatric medications which will be negatively affected by Chantix or Zyban.

16. These items are just plain crap…don’t work. Chantix drove me crazy, in a fog with Hypnosis, still smoked with the patch, lit a smoke after chewing the gum.

17. All hopeless -‘Champix” put me in hospital with bleeding from the bowel, patches wouldn’t stick even with tape wrapped around my arm over the patch, gums and books useless, cold turkey needs too much will power when you are an addict.

18. Tried Chantix but eventually went back to cigarettes

19. Neither medications like Chantix or patches/gums worked in my case. The withdrawal syndrome was too strong or they had some unexpected secondary effects.

20. Chantix kills…or helps you kill yourself at a very high cost $

21. I stopped short of Chantix as my brother used it to stop smoking and suicided within three months.

22. Am unable to take any prescribed pills like Chantix or Zyban, so tried the patch and gum but found myself wanting a cigarette at the same time.

23. Patch was not effective. I quit smocking 2 times for 1 years with champix (french version of chantix), but 2 times I get back to smock after ~1 year

24. I actually got the Chantix script from my doctor and got it filled but in the end, I was too terrified to take it, after researching it and reading about all the suicides, etc. It went down the toilet. Vaping is MUCH MUCH SAFER.

25. That last resort was Chantix and Zyban. It caused me to hallucinate. I gave the packets back to my doctor. As with patches, no effect except dizziness, rash on my skin, and I could even have one patch on each arm and smoke at the same time. I tired the Allan Carr method, his book is a con inmy opinion, it should be banned !

26. none worked, also Chantix, Zyban terrible side affects, all other did not work.

27. I have quit before successfully with chantix started again here and there with a smoking coworker or while fishing

28. Chantix/Champix gave me other, and far worse, problems than smoking. Severe depression is a bitch!

29. Chantix actually put me in a mental ward

30. I refused to try Chantix because my Brother in Law almost commited suicide while taking Chantix! Way too many side effects

31. My last attempt before rediscovering vaping was another trial with chantix along side of recovering from larengeal surgery because of a cancer scare. I lasted about one month. I would sa I have been desperate to quit for the last 15 years, but none of those options made it possible for me until I picked up my e-cig.

32. People have killed themselves while on Chantix. It made my mental state worse, giving terrible dreams & thoughts. Patches made my arm or wherever placed ache & hurt badly. Gum is gross & just doesn’t even do anything for me

33. None of them worked like vaping did. Especially not having to deal with side effects that Chantix gave me.

34. Chantix is evil

35. After one week on chantix I got depressed and was told by the doctor to stop using it as people have committed suicide on it. Other nrt either tasted horrible or made me itch or hurt my throat. After having acupuncture I left the building and had a fag. Self help books didnt teach me anything i didn’t already know. telling smokers that they will die won’t help anybody.

36. Chantix can help, it’s the best method after vaping

37. They lied about Chantix. I will not recommend this product to anyone.

38. Chantix helped me to quit for two years. Bad idea – while taking chantix i got palpitations, vertigo feelings and blurred vision. Terrible stuff.

39. Chantix is quite literally a nightmare.

40. Chantix/Champix made me want to finish myself..

41. patch gave me skin issues and bad dreams, cold turkey works as long as you don’t get stressed out and use the stress as an excuse to start smoking again.. and the chantix made me want to cut my own throat and, scary nightmares.

42. More scared of another round of Chantix (Champix) than dying of cigarettes!

43. I believe that both Zyban and Chantix ( Champix) should be banned because of heir side effects.

44. I am allergic to corn and have celiac as well as panic disorder. NO doctor would ever even think of giving me Chantix. NO doctor wanted me to quit smoking either. It was horrific on my pain levels and threw me into a depression. I am also allergic to adhesive so no patches. No gum or anything because of the corn. Cold turkey would have killed me.

45. Chantix made me crazy and un-well!

46. chantix zyban was a project from my previous workprovider (FORD), miserably failed. Cold turkey, i dont got a backbone for that. Patch and gums just dont do it for me at all.

47. I used champix and I regret using it. I have had stomach problems ever since. I think it did something to either the lining of my stomach or changed the chemical balance somehow? I quit on it, but it made me so very sick using it. As soon as I was off the “drug” I went back to smoking within days both times.

48. Chantix had side effects and once I went off the med the desire to smoke came right back.

49. The patch resulted in a 5 week cessation, with cravings remaining. Cold turkey lasted only hours. I wanted to try Chantix or Zyban, but I have epilepsy and so both drugs are contraindicated.

50. I tried chantix twice

51. The patch irritated my skin. Nic gum tastes like crap. Tried Chantix and it gave me nightmares. Vaping is the only thing that worked for me.

52. doctor would not give me chantix because of my health problems
53. hypnosis wasn’t available in my backwoods town. I did have lazer therapy as well but it lasted less than a week. Chantix made me have really dark thoughts so I had to get off of it.

54. Alan Carr helped for a while, and another book. Patches were irritating to my skin and didn’t work. I find chewing gum in public as offensive as some people find smoking! Even the packaging of Chantix warns that it could turn me into a ticking bomb, and I thought it would be irresponsible of me to take it.

55. I just can’t quit cold turkey. (I actually enjoy smoking). The patch makes me go numb and tingly where it’s applied, i.e.: on my arm, my arm will go numb and tingly. I can’t chew gum and the inhaler made me vomit. Accupunture worked for about a week (I think it was a placebo effect) and self help books haven’t helped. Drugs are not an option for me. I have suicidal thoughts on Zyban and on Chantix I was vomitting serverly. Having an eating disorder I can’t stay on Chantix. I lost over 8lbs in the week I was on it. Very dangerous for me.

56. Chantix was the absolute worst thing I ever did the night mares were horrible I felt awful from it. I did try everything first!

57. Chantix made me sick.

58. None of them work! Cold Turkey worked for a day max. Self help books seem superficial. Chantix made me all kinds of crazy and depressed. The gum is actually not bad but very expensive and not very safe. The patch did nothing for me other than make me more addicted because I would crave the nicotine and put on a patch but still needed that oral fixation and ended up smoking sometimes.

59. suicidal on Chantix

60. You name it I tried it. I wasn’t allowed to try Chantix or Zyban though because I am bi-polar and it would have interfered with my medication.

61. Chantix drove me nuts…can’t believe the FDA approved that one. Hypnosis made me feel like everything was in slow motion. Patches and gum did nothing for the cravings.

62. I tried everything I was able to when my husband was alive because he was a non-smoker and hated me smoking. The longest period I was able to remain smoke-free was cold-turkey (5 days). I could not use gum or lozenges after a while due to side-effects and my doctor refused to prescribe Chantix or Zyban as he sees them as too dangerous. Eventually I gave up giving up as I always failed and I enjoyed smoking.

63. I tried all these and not one even came close to me putting down my cigarettes I was just adding more nicotine to my habit because I still smoked while using them. Chantix/Zyban are really scary they can make you feel agitated and depressed

64. The patch and gum made me feel ill. Cold turkey made me so irritable, family was begging for me to smoke to calm down. Chantix gave me horrible nightmares, depression and generally felt like crap.

65. I was trying…my doc would not prescribe Chantix

66. Chantix almost killed me .Yet it’s still on the market after 700 deaths.

67. My doctor suggested Chantix a few years ago, but he should have known better because I’m bipolar and schizophrenic. Had I taken Chantix, it would have worked: I WOULD BE DEAD. Attempts to quit cold turkey were viciously repetitive failures. Vaping was the only thing that worked, and with immediate success. It was my miracle, my second chance at life.

68. Tried Chantix twice, gum twice, Zyban twice, patch once and cold turkey once over the course of about 15 years.

69. None of these methods worked. Patches and smoking don’t mix. I was taken off Chantix after three days; by my doctor, because of homicidal thoughts. He was freaked.

70. Zyban caused me to have a nervous breakdown and miss 6 months of work

71. Lozenges actually DID work; I did not smoke while I was using them. But my lozenge habit got more expensive than my cigarette habit! (and that’s expensive!) and even with the lozenges, I eventually went back to smoking. The Zyban worked as long as I kept taking it. But who wants to be on pills for the rest of their life? (and have to go to the doctor every month for a refill scrip?)

72. Only Zyban workt, when i stopt after 3 months i went back smoking!

73. Did successfully stop using Zyban, but started socially smoking amazing after about 3 years of non smoking. This did lead to starting smoking again after about 3-4 months of smoking only one evening a week.

74. Zyban left me like a vegetable – ready to commit suicide. My GP hasn’t prescribed the drug, after he saw what Zyban did to me and my mental health.

75. Zyban was very effective, but I became too nervous…said my wife. It holded 20 mounths without smoking.



You can see here what the FDA charts with all “approved” methods here:

Table Data: FDA Approved Drug


You can find the final analysis of the Vaping Truth Survey here.



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